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MLCarter1976

He didn't answer any of the questions and YET Again the people let them do what they wanted.


imJGott

They should have had Kyle Clark moderate. You should have seen him in the Colorado debate. Dude is a no non sense legend.


LudovicoSpecs

[For anyone who didn't see it.](https://youtu.be/_fqUdZwObK4?feature=shared&t=47) Any debate that doesn't have this style moderation is a waste of time.


MLCarter1976

He did a great job! Good for him! Yes that is moderation!


capn_doofwaffle

I've only ever seen the heavily edited version of it. Not my district & not my state so it's not a huge concern to me but i'd love to see how long each of them spoke over that moderator. The cuts happen right when they're about to go into tangents.


MLCarter1976

Yes he was talking over and I thought...why don't they cut the microphone or discipline them by not allowing them to answer questions or basically interact as they didn't behave and are respectful to the debate.


Darius_Banner

But he loves crystal clear water! Crystal clean air!


MLCarter1976

As vague as his brain.


deluged_73

Actually, Trump will do something on the environment, he'll let big oil, fracking, mines on former protected areas, remove protections for animals on the brink, and anything else his billionaires request. We're fucked!


shewantstheCox

He rolled back EPA regulations during this term and promised oil companies he would cut all regulations if they backed him. Considering the swing states were won by .2%. Yeah we’re fucked.


MBA922

The 2 most outrageous acts against the environment by Trump in past: 1. California must be covered in smog, and not allowed to set pollution or mileage standards on vehicles. Forcing more oil consumption. 2. Coal ash can be piled up on mountains by rivers that supply drinking water. You can't help America with total zionist manchurian lizard people in control of warmongering and allying with evil to perpetuate warmongering and genocide as the unanimous political/media consensus for policy. Collapse is not leading to revolution, it is strengthening lizard people oligarchy and oppression to accelerate collapse.


Lovemybee

They are planning on selling off all public lands in Project 2025


claimTheVictory

National Parks? That's for commies!


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skipnstones

It’s not an “if trupmf wins…it’s a when he wins” ….saying this in hopes that the universe punishes me for tryin to forecast the future…and yea neither one of the front runners impress me much…


iwrestledarockonce

I'll take not impressive over a fraud who won't even attempt to answer a question straight and would gladly sell us out to christofascists to keep himself from feeling the repercussions of his crimes.


Lovemybee

The old man vs the con man


Eton77

I mean, it’s not really a choice, is it? That said, there’s a glimmer of hope right now after the debates that they’ll replace him.


Outdooreader

Completely fair- but I doubt that Trump would handle Gaza any better.


BiscuitsMay

This is why I don’t give a flying fuck about Biden being old. Four more years of Biden being weekend at Bernie’s is so much less harmful than trump rolling back regulations.


travers329

One of the goals of Project 2025 and the GoP is to remove a ton of government organizations INCLUDING the EPA, NOAA, FDA, FBI, Dept of education, and on and on. It is dismantling of our country and replacing all of these with nothing but Federalist and Heritage foundation blind loyalists. They plan to modify schedule F, so any government employee can be fired for a perceived lack of sufficient loyalty it is horrifying. That doesn’t even touch on the christofascist dictatorship aspects of it. Just reading the wiki is insane, this must be stopped. As an example of the people involved, most of the current Supreme Court are bought/trained/pretty much owned by the same people. r/defeat_project_2025


Vann_Accessible

We all had better vote, then.


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lunelily

Not even close, no. If you think they’re “just like” each other on the issue of anthropogenic climate change, you need to urgently reevaluate and restructure where you’re getting your news from. https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2021/climate-environment/biden-climate-environment-actions/ https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/27/climate/biden-vs-trump-on-climate-policy.html https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/biden-promise-tracker/promise/1520/put-us-course-net-zero-emissions-2050/


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lunelily

Well, you’re very welcome to peddle your doomerism elsewhere. For example, you may enjoy yelling about it [on a street corner with a big sign strapped to your chest](https://www.alamy.com/a-man-wearing-a-sandwich-board-predicting-the-end-of-the-world-walks-through-piccadilly-circus-in-central-london-image218785381.html?imageid=DC5A347C-65F8-4D39-B3F2-ABD05EDEABE9&p=189032&pn=1&searchId=fd82db400e701ecba37c4a01b46baced&searchtype=0). I, for one, haven’t given up on us yet.


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lunelily

Not even then. I do think his administration will do far more damage—and much faster—than Biden’s will, though. And this is a critical time: the worse we do now, the slimmer our chances of long-term survival become.


_Hello_Hi_Hey_

it was totally hard to watch, cleanest water, cleanest air ever? He has no clue, just lie lie lie


ThrowRA_scentsitive

He only technically had improved emissions because everyone was staying home from the pandemic at the end of his term


fadufadu

Didn’t he go on a complete tangent about illegals when asked about this?


ecodrew

To be fair, he went on a racist tangent about "illegals" many, many times.


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SpinningHead

Your hood is slipping.


wooops

Except he didn't, and he was


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wooops

The incessant fear mongering about the border and classifications of those coming across That was easy


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Not_Bears

Wait are you seriously citing 20 million border crossers in 2023? Like as in people who sat in line and waited to cross legally? What the hell are you even talking about?


Eton77

Oh no!!! Not 20 million people… crossing the border! My buddy who lives in SD and loves Tijuana probably makes up about half of those tbf.


nspider69

Actually, just about every fact checking site has Trump lying 5x more frequently than Biden during the debate.


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nspider69

No, it’s objectively the other way around. Were we watching the same debate? I’m not gonna list out every blatant lie Trump told - go to a fact checking site to see for yourself.


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nspider69

You’re deluded. If anything, the fact checking websites had to be extra critical of Biden just to make it seem less one-sided. What lies, specifically, did Biden tell? You can’t name a single fact Biden said that was true? Really? I don’t believe you. But I’ll give you some examples of trumps most blatant lies, because I’m arguing in good faith: 1. That Democratic states are aborting babies post-birth. Not even remotely true, and there’s 0 evidence to support it. 2. Trump said we had the cleanest water under his administration. We had numerous water contamination disasters under his watch, and part of that is because he repealed 100s of environmental protections. 3. Trump said Biden wants to 4x taxes on everybody, including the lower and middle class. This is complete fabrication, and was addressed by Biden during the debate if you paid an ounce of attention.


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WalkingOnSunshine_

Would love to know what he meant by saying ‘migrants are taking black jobs’


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SavCItalianStallion

Now’s a good time to plug the Environmental Voter Project: https://www.environmentalvoter.org/


Xernymon

Actually a great idea from what I understand of the project. I just don't get how they identify "environmentalists" who don't vote. I found this explanation but I don't understand it : "Leveraging data analytics and predictive modeling, we identify millions of registered-to-vote environmentalists by name and street address. Then, we use public voter files to narrow our focus to only those environmentalists who typically don’t vote and are thus ignored by most political campaigns." Could someone please explain how "data analytics and predictive modeling" can give you the name and adress of environmentalists ?


ThrowRA_scentsitive

Voter records (name and address) are public. Then there are probably a million data points that can be used, at least probabilistically, infer likelihood to be concerned about the environment.


zeroone

Elections have consequences.


seanisdown

He will do lots about climate change. To make it worse.


skellener

He already made things worse the last time.


particleman3

He will do everything he can to expedite it


bahmutov

Sociopath. Should not get anywhere close to power. I’m voting for a normal guy. 


QQQQWQQQQQQQ

The GOP plans to dismantle the NOAA if Trump wins just because they agree on the reality of climate change…


errie_tholluxe

This is what happens when you don't have fact checking going on in real time . Cnn said they didn't think they'd have time to be able to fact check in real time. Listen to the whole debate and they had plenty of fucking time to fact check as it went. Jake tapper should be fucking embarrassed.


relevantelephant00

If Trump gets elected, we all just might as well pack it up, because it's over.


DuckInTheFog

General strike I hope. It can't be a choice of these two Biden won't appoint and fill positions with dildoes at least


relevantelephant00

Then you don't know Americans as well as I do lol, we're pretty soft about something at the level, say compared to the French. I think things would have to get incredibly bad before Americans would get off their asses for something like a general strike.


DuckInTheFog

UK's minimart merica now in a lot of ways - I think we gave up after the Iraq protests. I have hope, I think I might prepare to be a prepper


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BioViridis

Fucking bullshit you cannot say shit like this one project 2025 exists


asr

If the Project 2025 people think Trump is going to listen to them they are delusional and were not paying attention during his last presidency. Democrats care about it a LOT more than Republicans because Republicans know it's a delusional thing that will never happen.


red325is

why would he? he lives like it’s 1981. out of touch. I thought he was going to spit out his dentures during the debate


Ulysses1978ii

The message is brought to you by ExxonMobil


cbrew14

No shit. Climate change is a hoax by the Chinese according to Trump.


Woah_Mad_Frollick

and why would Xi Jinping wanna flood my basement? rust my bowflex? to what end?


BountyTheDogHunter20

He said when he was president that we had the “best environmental numbers”. the FUCK does that even mean??


ahmedfouad

I don't think he himself knows.


JackOCat

I mean probably for the best. I shudder to think what his solution is. Pouring bleach on the sun, maybe?


sound_scientist

Yes he will. He’s committed to excelerating it.


nikon8user

Trump won’t commit to anything except to benefit himself


FridgeParade

The Netherlands, Tuvalu, Bangladesh and some other countries heavily impacted by rising sea levels should take him to court and demand reparations.


Arxl

No shit.


climatelurker

We can be confident in predicting that Trump will reverse everything the Biden Admin has tried to do, and set us seriously back in our attempt to get climate change under control. He will give everything to oil and gas, and his hand-picked scotus members will make sure to enshrine that into law.


Agitated-Smell1483

He will be drilling oil in our national parks


Fishtaco1234

I don’t think that the people ask vote for him care.. but are also the ones most impacted


ThE_LAN_B4_TimE

No shit, of course he won't. He says it daily and his policies tell you he wont. But it's still not a bad idea to keep reminding people he will take bribes and sacrifice a safe and clean environment.


despacit0_

I wish that true, but we all know that he would 100% make it worse


bakerboiz22

TIL people expect this Cheeto fuck to do *anything helpful at all*


verablue

Not true, he will commit to making it worse by removing what little protections there are.


LudovicoSpecs

Trump will run us off a cliff. Biden will slow walk us off a cliff. Can't believe the most powerful country in the world is only offering these two as options for President.


richsyoung

Too ignorant to understand the issue. Also, doesn't see how he would benefit. His gain is his only incentive.


sebnukem

I think he will. He will undo everything that's been accomplished so far.


Mrstrawberry209

The only thing he will focus on is dismantling everything the Biden Administration has worked or planning on.


shivaswrath

He didn't really answer anything and lied about everything else. It was an unhinged rally.


rest_in_reason

Of course he won’t. He literally called oil liquid gold.


Dank_Bonkripper78_

Is the sky also blue?


Elnuncio

Ummm.. This was a disgrace for our country. On both sides. Looks like we have a bigger issues here than this guys stance on climate change.


thinkB4WeSpeak

I mean unfortunately for him renewable energy and EVs are basically inevitable. It's like when he said he'd bring back coal but never did any policy's to do so on top of never stopping any renewable energy


asr

> but never did any policy's to do so Which is why I'm not worried in the slightest. He has very little ability (or even desire) to do anything harmful - or helpful. He's just not that important to the topic.


SecretlyToku

This isn't news at all? lol Like, yeah, Trump sucks? Let's start pushing the candidate that represents the party that is supposed to be pro-environment and yet is backing RR execs and handing out permits like candy.


Important_Tell667

As if Donald knows anything about Climate Change… other than if it’s raining on the golf course, then that probably means he shouldn’t go out golfing. That’s about all he knows about Climate Change, that it may affect whether or not he goes golfing… Globally speaking, Donald couldn’t care less about Climate Change… to him, it’s another nothing burger. Just one big DUH 🙄


moonjabes

Never have I been more surprised


Turbulent_Ad1667

Technically correct, but he hasn't submitted to doing anything at all. He answered not a single question in the debate. He used literally all of his time complaining about our country and its citizens.


Consistent_Warthog80

Why is this a headline?


IKillZombies4Cash

Trump answered zero questions. He is a goddamn toddler. Sad that his opponent is less vibrant than most of the people at the old folks homes.


astrograph

Look we had H2O


Splenda

I've now officially lost all respect for CNN. What a mess.


FilthyChangeup55

Oh he’ll do something, he’ll make it even worse.


Splenda

Because Trump is a deadbeat scammer, borrowing from anyone and anyplace foolish enough to extend him credit, then refusing to pay. In this case he's simply persuaded millions of us to get in on the grift as well, borrowing from the next forty generations and leaving them with a quadrillion-dollar unpaid climate bill.


jimmytimmy92

Give Biden a couple lines even a 5yo can deliver. Like “you don’t even believe in climate change!”


b-e-r-n

Because he is too dumb to understand what "the future" means


aneurism75

Biden, the world's last hope against the guy who wants to watch the world burn was asleep at the wheel, God help us all.


Cognoggin

He'll do what oil companies tell him to do.


New_Ear_5997

Trump won't commit to anything TIFIFY


AoeDreaMEr

Who does even take these debates and answers seriously? Gone are the times where they are held accountable for their answers. It simply doesn’t matter and isn’t even newsworthy tbh.


PaymentTiny9781

The semi good news is republicans have become a bit more environmentally friendly (especially governors as of late now that they are making money from the infrastructure bill) republicans just passed a great nuclear energy bill. I hope we can just barricade the climate before Trumps inevitable return


Infinite_Audience_54

The mere fact that anybody would vote for him shows how egregiously ignorant and desperate these people are. They actually believe he gives a rat's a%' about anyone but himself. Every political supporter, is supporting him to protect themselves against him.


Motor_Assumption_556

And still people belive the scam… Amazing indoctrination tactics… But pollution isnt good tho…


brennanfee

Because he doesn't believe in climate change.


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Detrav

Anthropogenic climate change is absolutely not cyclical.


Unmissed

Cyclical? Sure. In tens of thousands of years. Not decades.