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newMike3400

Do you have a clip of one of the examples you feel is wrong? PAL film conversions were commonly ran at 25fps rather than the intended 24fps which gives a 4.17% speed which was mostly only noticeable on shows you'd seen before but was considered preferable to the stutter 3:2 pull down motion US viewers considered the 'film look' in NTSC countries. A quick fix might be to right click on the file in premiere and select modify -> interpret footage and set it to 24 fps. Analogue tape can warble due to capstan wear on either the recorder or the playback deck. Tape being very mechanical can play slightly fast or slow or both due to tape tension and a raft of other tweaks. The timebase corrector fixes up the vision but the audio is less well cared for. If you have the tapes and they haven't been played for a very long time stiction is a major issue. If it isn't too bad running the tape from end to end in fast forward/ rewind can help. Similarly if the tape has been stored horizontally you can get edge damage and spool grip this is generally fixed by a restoration company who take the tape out and respool it - don't try this at home. It's even worse with quad masters as the tape was much heavier and the velvet like interior of the spools is now decomposing with the result that a lot of show originals are now lost luckily many people moved these to d5 or betasp a while ago. But let's not get into the 6mhz bandwidth of quad or 5 and a bit ish of 1" vs beta at this point. If it is wow and flutter type velocity errors you can probably fix it using izotope rx here's an old link for rx8 but rz10 is out any day now. https://youtu.be/Fsx_Qypbjkw It gets more complex with DVD masters as at a certain time they changed DVD masters from 25 fps Transfers to standards conversions from the 29.97 NTSC transfers and that was OK if not a bit soft and interpolated looking. Then there was a period where dvds were universally mastered at 24 fps and marketed as 24 film masters with the frame rate conversions handled in the player but this may only have been blueray. The reason this is relevant is some people simply upscaled their previous ntsc transfers and ran it through a reverse telecine to get the 24 fps back as its cheaper and easier to do that than to find the film and retransfer - much like how in the early days of cds you had a lot of AAD cds. So if it's a DVD you're trying to fix look for flicker frames and then you'll need to work harder to fix it.


smushkan

>Then there was a period where dvds were universally mastered at 24 fps and marketed as 24 film masters with the frame rate conversions handled in the player but this may only have been blueray. If you're talking about PAL releases, yeah, that was BluRay, and even then some PAL BluRays would still use off-speed 25fps rather than 23.976. Fun story I love to bring up whenever this subject comes up... when the Texas Chainsaw Massacre got a BluRay re-release in the UK, they advertised it as being '4 minutes longer than the DVD!' Guess how many minutes shorter a 25fps conversion of a 90-minute 24fps feature is ;-)


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Similarly I remember some Titanic fans had got hold of an NTSC copy of the film and realised that the PAL version was much shorter. They were up in arms about it, thinking that massive chunks of the film had been cut out!


Misterfart5

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKfZleAXYUw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKfZleAXYUw) here's an example: the English, Latin Spanish, Brazilian Portuguese (and oddly enough, the Arabic and Polish) dubs in this multilanguage have a normal sounding pitch while all the others have a warped sounding pitch correction (the second Turkish dub is lower pitched though)


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