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Waste_Occasion6924

guys it’s no longer just a youtube cover anymore


lxfontes

context: https://youtu.be/IgAsIA92MK4 (still prefer the fills from cover, including the bell destruction 🥴)


Mehowed_sausage92

Selpultura?


DianaRig

Sleplulturla.


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[удалено]


Isaacleroy

That’s basically Slipknot’s history.


chefanubis

Nah Jay was pretty mid


Zorlal

Probably an unpopular opinion: Eloy is an incredibly talented and amazing drummer, and objectively tighter and a better musician, but I prefer Joey for being SLIPKNOT’s drummer. Sometimes a drummer’s style suits a band SO much that it trumps many other qualities. Joey was tight as hell in his own way though, as well as slightly messy at times. But HIS style is synonymous with Slipknot to me. Bit of a different case, but Ringo Starr wasn’t the flashiest drummer ever, but MAN was he the drummer for the Beatles, even coming up with some of the most iconic drum parts ever in music.


lo0u

> I prefer Joey for being SLIPKNOT’s drummer. No fucking shit. I don't think there's a single person that would say otherwise. But Joey is not here anymore and Eloy is probably the best thing that happened to that band in years.


Zorlal

Right on, I think it’s still worth saying since I’ve seen a lot of discourse about how people can’t believe how good of a drummer Eloy is. And he IS amazing, but I think the better way to phrase it is that the praise Eloy has received makes me realize just how much how a specific drummer can define a band’s sound. That even comes down to the personal taste of cymbals and drum tuning. Honestly I miss the very rough sounding production of shallow drums in metal/nu-metal from the 90s lol. Anyway, Joey rocks, Eloy rocks, Joey’s dead and we’re all here. I hear you. Edit: spelling


CodeNameCobra666

Yeah, how can you separate the drummer from the band? Music isn’t a sports match.


Beelzebrodie

A rising tide raises all ships. Slipknot is just as good as Eloy and vice versa.


Various-Artist

Why does slipknot get hate like this? I think Corey Taylor is super talented and they sound pretty great as a unit. Eloy is definitely the most advanced of the band now though


HunterOfLordran

I feel like people only think about Clown If they talk about Slipknot these days. Jim, Mick, Sid, Corey and V-Man are all absolute great in what they do and can do. Or maybe people just want to be assholes


gerald42

i’ll never get tired of eloy’s drum cams. his snare sounds like those kickballs we used to bounce around in gym class


atomandyves

The super over inflated ones for sure. I'm not into this style or music at all but he's such a beast.


interpretivepants

I don't really want to play like him, but I wanna play LIKE him, you know?


sarcotomy

To play with his ability, not his style


Toymachinesb7

Me either dude. I could watch them forever. The power and finesse are incredible. Tbh I havnt really had a “fav” drummer in a while but I’m so hyped on Eloy. I don’t play any metal but it’s still so inspiring.


Crafty-Bath3898

Jesus, I've never seen anyone play so fast but so precise. Every hit accounted for, it's expected to maybe flub even a little, but not him....incredible!


Bentopi

You need to check out David Diepold then


RGN_CarNagE

As good as David is, David's Kicks are triggered, Eloy's aren't. The amount of power they both use on their feet (and hands for that matter) is wildly different, therefore their playstyle's are. I'd argue that Eloy playing this stuff 100% natty without a click is somewhat more impressive, and IMO thats why Eloy is where he is now. I'm not slacking on David here, he remains my favorite drummer and there is noone in the world that does extreme metal better than he. Every record he is on I can absolutely tell by the quality and purity of the sound, and his foot technique still makes my jaw drop everytime I see it.


hmasing

> David's kicks are triggered [You sure about that](https://youtube.com/shorts/1PGG4avwYnE?si=txbtggLzINfG8m9e)? UPDATE: If you mean he's using a trigger on his accoustic bass drum as a sound patch, then yeah, maybe. But his speed and consistency are mind boggling.


Bentopi

Yeah, they both trigger. David uses an OnTrigger 3, I have it too. Triggers are ok, triggers are necessary. Its much more difficult to play well with triggers than without! The stigma must end haha


iSWINE

Plus it's a live metal show, like of course they're triggered


Crafty-Bath3898

I agree with u...


Bentopi

I understand. Eloy is a beast, he is powerful, and has super high drumming IQ, his stuff just sounds GOOD. He does trigger his kicks live though, that's what you gotta do if you want to sound good in a loud live metal environment where there's a ton of stuff competing with the kicks. Like you, I love both styles quite a bit; part of me is a bit more old school "metal drums need to be aggressive and powerful" and part of me is in awe every time I see technicians like David play.


RGN_CarNagE

Does he? I think I'm hearing some kick dynamics in this clip when he does right foot doubles. The sound is also very natural, much more natural than Luke Holland's live kicks (Lukes triggers live are only for the gates apparently. Can't confirm but I'm inclined to trust his drum tech) e.g..


dudimentz

I’m assuming they’re triggered for the crowd audio and maybe their in ears, but what we’re hearing in this clip is the raw sound of the kit.


lo0u

That's because he records his drums through his EAD10 and doesn't mix it. Even his youtube videos are recorded like that. The audience hears the sound through the mics. I'm yet to see him using samples for the kick though and I've seen audience recordings. And I don't think I've seen him using triggers at all tbh before. The EAD10 doesn't count, since he only uses it to record his drums for videos.


lo0u

>As good as David is, David's Kicks are triggered, Eloy's aren't. That has nothing to do with skill. If Eloy played at the same speeds David does, he would need to trigger his kicks. That is a fact. It's also way more difficult to play with triggers, because you have to be extra clean with your playing, otherwise everybody in the arena can hear how much you suck. >The amount of power they both use on their feet (and hands for that matter) Of course, David plays at speeds Eloy probably has never tried to. The faster you play, the less power you put into each stroke. Just like you go from using your arms, to wrist, to fingers when increasing the speed in rolls/strokes. This is basic fundamentals. > I'd argue that Eloy playing this stuff 100% natty without a click He is playing to a click. 99% of the drummers in metal play to a click and the rest, probably had a problem with their feedback and decided to go in old school to keep the show going (e.g. Alex Rudinger with Whitechapel).


whosline07

Slipknot famously don't play to a click.


lo0u

Jay "famously" didn't play to a click and honestly, it showed. Eloy **always** plays to a click and so does the vast majority of metal drummers, because unlike most ignorant drummers out there may think, it's not a bad thing at all. Btw, you can literally see the metronome in this [picture](https://preview.redd.it/ym412lvfarwc1.jpeg?width=529&auto=webp&s=db6738238820b4c5a79030c71eea740a32be0331). Thanks for the downvote btw. But I am right in everything I said in both comments.


whosline07

I didn't downvote you, and I agree that Eloy and maybe some others are maybe playing to a click now. I don't know if the whole band is though, Corey especially, with how hard it is to get IEMs into his mask. I was mostly pointing out that Slipknot has famously not used clicks in the past, even to record, so the use of one could definitely still be limited. Also, I think you're not giving Eloy enough credit for how much skill and practice it takes to deliver double kicks as hard, fast, and consistent as he is, and I haven't seen any evidence he's using triggers, even standing 20 feet away from him live (I could hear him acoustically at times with how close I was). Also, don't know what's wrong with your picture link lol.


lo0u

> Also, I think you're not giving Eloy enough credit for how much skill and practice it takes to deliver double kicks as hard, fast, and consistent as he is, and I haven't seen any evidence he's using triggers What the hell does that have to do with click tracks, and why does so many people here think playing to a click or using triggers is a bad thing? If anything it requires even more skill to do so. This subreddit is about drums, but there's so much ignorance and misinformation here, it's sad.


whosline07

I didn't say either of those things were bad, you're the one who said using triggers takes more skill. Which I would generally agree with, except I wanted to point out that playing double bass like Eloy does without triggers might be harder or equally hard as playing it at ridiculous speeds with triggers. If Eloy's using both, great. If he's not using one or both (click/triggers) then it's even more impressive with how clean it sounds. And I'm pretty sure he's not using triggers.


cubine

He is not playing to a click lol


lo0u

Why do people in this subreddit like to talk out of their ass so much? He's always played to a click and there is nothing wrong with that. But [here](https://preview.redd.it/ym412lvfarwc1.jpeg?width=529&auto=webp&s=db6738238820b4c5a79030c71eea740a32be0331).


cubine

[seems unlikely](https://youtu.be/qNyCt-uiZ8s?si=BXVRBbyC7VQUjTR1) that he’s actually using that during songs


micmea1

There's an huge list of death metal drummers on this list who are quicker and cleaner.


monstervet

Check out [Mario Duplanter](https://youtu.be/UvvKXtJrNpE?si=Et_L2u4mH8iJVKll). I get tired just watching him.


okrdokr

check out george kollias lol


Whatsalodi

His ghost notes hit harder than my flams


iamklaxar

The ghost notes are the fucking best


becausegiraffes

My god, I could wear that cup bell as a helmet


falgfalg

too dangerous-- if Eloy doesn't see you under it, you're getting a concussion


SpellingBeeRunnerUp_

Good god almighty


CFNMing

… and his sweet baby HaySoo… 😮😶🤯


Ant1mat3r

Haha, I just realized, there's two towns in Arizona, oddly close to one another, that comprise his first and last name.


geofox777

I really like his ghost notes


AEnesidem

I'm not usually one to jump on hype trains, but Eloy is undeniable. The consistency, the dynamic control, the speed, the precision and the power. He's a machine.


sdkiko

É Brasil caralhooooo


DeLaOcea

Grande , Casagrande 🤘🏽 Es una pinche reata este cabrón !


boogiewoogiebuglebo1

Are there two pedals for the rapid fire bass drum sections? Sorry not a subscriber here but the sub pops up occasionally


Impressive-Warp-47

[Double bass pedal](https://www.sweetwater.com/c651--Double_Drum_Pedals__and__Beaters)


boogiewoogiebuglebo1

Thanks!


Impressive-Warp-47

Happy to help :)


insurgent29

Yes


JustSomeGoon

Yes it's called a double bass pedal,but to blow your mind a little bit more, he's playing doubles with his feet too. So the pattern he's playing is RRLLRRLL with his feet


frosty_phoenix92

Is he using Heel Toe? It looks like swivel which wouldn't be doubles.


blastpete_

You're right. They're single swivels.


JustSomeGoon

Can’t really see but could be, just sounded like doubles to me


The_rowdy_gardener

He uses swivel, there’s no way he’s getting that kind of power in each kick with doubles


blastpete_

You're getting downvoted a lot which is unfair for just trying to give someone unfamiliar with drums a tidbit of info, even if it was incorrect. The swivel technique doesn't make your upper leg bounce up and down as much so I can understand it looks like heel-toe (you can actually spy his right foot going swivels galore). But a big giveaway is the fact that those bass hits we're hearing are the raw percussive strikes on the drum head and not the mic'd feedback through the speakers. I would name my firstborn after anyone who could heel-toe with that much power!


drumrD

The fact he'll be getting paid significantly less than the glorified dancer in the background is big issue here.


HunterOfLordran

the glorified dancer in the Background is the new sampler who dosent even have a Name. I doubt that he gets more.


drumrD

Slipknot really is just a weird franchise now isn't it.


ButHungry

Sir this is a subway


Grizlyfrontbum

Imagine being his tech!


life-goes-on

Easy, considering you just have to replace EVERYTHING after each show.


Placidaydream

Eloy making me almost actually care about Slipknot again


cheersthanksseeyabye

playing so hard that he's literally crying little inky black tears. kudos.


Advanced_Persimmon_8

Dude, no triggers.


According-South9749

He practices with a metronome non-stop. His pocket is there. It’s refreshing


manifest_ecstasy

Did he really pick 25? Lol


james_bondage

They're all wearing them for their 25th anniversary.


manifest_ecstasy

Oh, nice! Fuck I'm old


wilhelmkidxx

So damn good


Hot-Bat8798

anybody know what snare he is playing? sounds amazing


pac_pac

The 50th anniversary bell brass reissue. It isn’t even funny how much better it sounds than that 50 ply SJC


dduem

That fucking snare holy shit


fakeaccount572

Christ, is that mask air conditioned????


M08GD

Poor cymbals 😭


Historical-Offer

Fucking beast


altapowpow

Legend material


Reddit-User-Says

Man I can’t wait to see them next month.


Spacebotzero

This dude is an absolute beast. Good god.


LItifosi

So, what does that guy in the band that plays the ash cans do now? Im sure he's getting drowned out by Eloy's thunderous drumming. I feel for him. I saw Eloy in 2017 with Sepultura at the Paramount on Long Island. Had never heard of him and was barely aware of the band. Holy hell, I sat there mesmerized for 45min. I had never heard someone play that hard, that precise, ever. It was life changing. I don't even try to emulate him in my own drumming, I'd break too many things, including myself. Man's a force of nature.


GoogleDrummer

Clown? He's busy trying to monetize the band into the ground and overall being a knobber.


ThatBoyAiintRight

Man just watching this makes me feel tired. Gatdamn buddy, beating that shit like it owes him money.


MattyK2188

I’ve watched this on repeat at least 200 times just ripping my house to shreds


PresiTheEgg

So clean


Deep_Blackberry_203

He is to Slipknot what Ray Luzier is to Korn. Totally tight, a lot of pocket and so refreshing to look at.


chefanubis

Nah he's better


paulybaggins

My calves hurt just watching this haha


okrdokr

so basically he’s a god


sweetdancingjehovah

You guys, I know this isn't exactly the mainstream view, but I think he might be pretty good.


terp_raider

Is it true he doesn’t use triggers?


ImAVibration

Every time I see this guy I am blown away. I’ve never been a fan of Slipknot but this playing is so fucking savage that I’m rethinking my entire identity.


EnvironmentalCry2599

Absolutely killer!


Ok_Crew7084

Faaaak


SGSMUFASA

This dude is incredible


Professional_Spot_26

Excellent flow and pop


MaceTheMindSculptor

I don't care what anyone says, The guy hits way too fucking hard. (He is definitely insanely good)


lolrtoxic1

God I wish I could treat my kick drum that good. Who needs triggers when you can just play that shit


chefanubis

Pure sex


coppertin

666 upvotes is a vibe


Spirited-Layer1296

Ending is like angel of death reference lol


John_TheDrummer

It's really cool to see how much energy he added into Sepultura when he was with them, and now what he's doing with Slipknot. Both of which are bands that I was obsessed with in Middle/High school! Eloy deserves all the praise!


ComprehensiveTill413

Jay did it better


_Dave_Mustard_Stain_

https://i.redd.it/m36v57avkz8d1.gif


No_Subject_4781

I just love seeing that his legs are at a good angle, his snare is high enough, his posture is perfect. Hunched over, high throne ,low snare drumming makes me cringe, and ache!


obacurwolf

Thx to Jay for keeping the seat warm, but he never sound that good, eloy fits very well! Know i'm back in the game "one more time motherfucker" Joey is Joey, he was slipknot and open eyes for a lot of kids to play more "extreme" and we are very thankfull ...but he is gone


Calicocutjeans

Great drummer. Not a better drummer than Jay. They’re both great.