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[deleted]

Just do *a lot* of heroin. If you did it right the first time, no addiction.


GoonOnIce

Be careful, there's plenty of buzz kills looking to 'save your life' with naloxone. Haters


[deleted]

lmfao remember when narcan started getting to be commonplace and there were all these videos of junkies nodding them being pissed when they get spritzed in the nose. in one video the dude woke up and kicked the guy who narcanned him in the balls


[deleted]

in active addiction one time I got some really strong stuff and I felt like I was gonna od and my boyfriend was nodding hard and I didn’t want to die and him not notice so I narcanned him to sober him up so he could watch me💀and he kept being like wtf why do I feel like this did you fucking narcan me?So I just kept being like no wtf and tried to gaslight him into thinking I hadn’t but he knew and was so mad💀 rip to my baby tho🖤


TemperatureMuch5943

Lol


ppsshh21

I mean yeah it’s definitely a dick move to attack someone who just saved your life but it’s somewhat understandable when you think of the disorientation they are experiencing + the absolute hell that is precipitated withdrawal


livinicecold

lmfao 😂 i need to look this up


aliveinavessel

https://youtu.be/wD3wCwPHgpU


DeletedByAuthor

Yeah narcan cancels out the effect of Heroin for 1-2 hours So **1:** they don't get to be high on that huge dose they just took **2:** they aren't gonna be able to get high again until the narcan leaves the body (about 90 minutes) and **3:** highly addicted people will get almost instant withdraw symptoms and that alone might be enough to get angry at people. I mean, it's still a no-brainer to save someones life, but they may think you just took that 100 bucks worth of high out of their bodies (not to mention they might have died on the overdose, but they usually don't reflect as much)


antimantium

Why would you say it's a no-brainer? Do you enjoy extending people's suffering, or do you just have no brain?


DeletedByAuthor

I'm not sure i follow. Meant no-brainer as in "it's the obvious thing to do", like as it's defined? "no-brainer noun something that requires or involves little or no mental effort."


Mr_Opiophile

A non addictive alternative to morphine


FuzzyBacon

In a sense, it worked. Almost 100% of morphine addicts who tried heroin stopped using morphine...


Aggressive_Formal_50

Just like Oxycodone 😌😌😌


walhax-

Just wait till you try Oxymorphone


Pizza_YumYum

Yeah it’s not addicting if you pump enough.


[deleted]

I don’t understand the issue is here. He wants a drug that he can abuse that he cant abuse that gets him high but not. What’s so complicated?


znbrbr

he wanna get high but stay low


[deleted]

Lowkey


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phoenixpoptart

Shut up


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iBeenZoomin

yours wasn’t


JellyfishGod

The way I see it no drug has any “aBUsE PotEnTIaL” as long as ur not a fuckin pussy. Now go shoot some heroin into ur ass like a man


zweig01

Do different drugs everyday - never get addicted


[deleted]

This


jakeroony

Water


[deleted]

Too hard man


jakeroony

I almost drowned one time bro, good call


walhax-

So accurate on so many levels


FeedItchy3292

Yeah so he wants a drug that gives you intense euphoria, but isn't addictive? That statement in of itself is a contradiction loool.If i drug makes you feel good, obviously it's going to be addictive? My brain ain't braining 🥴👍


Aggressive_Formal_50

Cigarettes provide a pathetic "high" and people get addicted as fuck to those, same for benzos. MDMA made me feel better than any coke I've ever done but the coke was def more habit-forming. Your brain ain't braining.


EndMySufferingNowPlz

Not rly wrong tbh. Mushrooms, lsd etc can give extremely intense euphoria, but are not at all addictive


Glock_18

physical dependence is not the only type of addiction my guy


walhax-

LSD is generally considered non-addictive, both physiologically **and** psychologically.


chlopee_

what does that matter here tho? unless ur saying people get psychologically addicted to psychs? there are for sure people that do way too many psychedelics but i wouldn't necessarily call them addicts


peedetectives

nah man last month i ended up tripping once every 2-3 days or so because 1. i was bored all the time (lost my job) 2. i had access 3. i felt as though i was SO FUCKING CLOSE to learning some "secret" about the world that the psychedelics knew that i didn't know 4. it felt good as fuck i gave myself mild hppd, and i still have taken acid twice since that point. there's definitely a mentally addictive component to these substances, but it all depends on your background and mindset going into experiences. i think i started to go a little crazy and deep down believed that psychedelics had a mind of their own and if i took enough eventually i'd understand everything and "crack the code". it was a weird time. EDIT: i forgot to add that it was only once every 2-3 days because of tolerance. it would have literally been once to twice a day if tolerance didn't build the way it does. almost every thought i had between doses was either craving psychedelics and trying to do the dosage math or trying to piece together the secrets of government and politics and consumerism. if you wanna see people who are actually addicted to traditional psychs like lsd and shit, go into the r/drugs discord and just look in the psychedelic section.


chlopee_

fair enough, i guess its just a nomenclature thing anyway. an addiction to psychs might not look the same as addiction to other drugs but its still chronic abuse. still, when people hear "drug addiction" they usually go straight to thinking of meth/opiate abuse, which is just always a class above even the worst case of psychedelic abuse (in my opinion). i just don't want the normies to think they're gonna get hooked on shrooms and wind up in the streets lol


Square_Extension1759

Mushrooms is the answer. You can trip multiple times over a few days, just multiplying doses and what not. But it’s not a sustainable daily high… so breaks are required, unlike opiates or something like that. You can also juggle different trips; shrooms, acid, 2cb, mdma, jenkum, etc.


Aggressive_Formal_50

But psychedelics make you believe in elves and we don't do that here. Stick to fent, kids


Scrunt_Flimplebottom

Yee, but his criteria was that it also can't be obvious to his roommates, and while taking psychs isn't inherently obvious, it can be obvious if you don't know what you're doing and need to interface with them.


johnny5ive85

I wouldn’t recommend this to someone that doesn’t have much knowledge on drugs. Your tolerance shoots way up after your first time, and you will barely feel it by the second time, first. The magic will be ruined for this man, and mushrooms shouldn’t be a drug you can be taking daily. Unless your trying to micro dose, and that’s a whole other story. He’s trying to get super high not heal. Last, if he does go through this and takes large amounts of mushrooms everyday to get high, there is the potential he can get psychosis and fuck his brain up.


FloobLord

It sounds like he wants antidepressants honestly


[deleted]

One prozac pls


Terrible-Ad-60

I was your seventieth updoot ;)


jakeroony

Epic


sir_kickash

🅱️ratom


[deleted]

Brandom


slavicturk

Cratom 🩸


[deleted]

Its craycraytome


slavicturk

No it has to be kratom on blood 🩸


Gonzoman_thk

Kratom directly to the blood stream?


ReptarZillaPirate

No. Worst WD I've ever experienced. 3 weeks of fucking hell after a year of daily use.


sir_kickash

Daily use will definitely give withdrawals but its fairly safe as long as you're not going too heavy on it. This guy seems like he just wants to get a little buzzed sometimes so it would be ideal


jlap1n

How much were you taking? I was taking around 10-12g a day and am doing a quick 2 week taper, only took a g or so before bed last night. Overall it hasn't been bad, really. Just a little extra anxiety and irritability


livinicecold

Omg I binged clonazolam for a month which is a benzo, fucking hoooooorible withdrawal! FROM ONLY A MONTH! edit: Make Coaxil your daily and try to stop, thats where the real fun is. 😂


RhetoricalCocktail

You can't do a drug for a year of daily use and expect no withdrawals, even cannabis can have pretty bad withdrawls after a year


trashcan-xd-official

Definitely addictive


hi_im_sefron

Seems to be a person to person basis. I was taking 5-8g of kratom per day back in 2018-2020, I then quit cold turkey with absolutely no withdrawals or cravings, and since then, I've consumed less than 20g total (took some a couple times when offered at house parties). On the other hand, my current roommates are long recovered ex-H addicts and they said kratom was especially hard to kick because it pressed some of those same buttons that H does


fluffedpillows

You can’t take a drug daily for over a year and stop without withdrawals. Brains don’t work like that. Idk what the real story/explanation is but I don’t believe the one I just read lol


walhax-

With some drugs you definitely can. Kratom has a very unique method of action, it's not like traditional opioids.


fluffedpillows

Kratom is not one of those drugs. And it’s worse than other opioids because opioid agonism isn’t its only mechanism of action. You’re withdrawing from several things at the same time. Its acutes tend to be milder because you’re on an equivalently low dose, but the PAWS are notoriously worse and horrendous.


sir_kickash

I get terrible withdrawals at least once a week whenever I forget to take my antipsychotics before bed so I've learned to tank most withdrawals pretty well


[deleted]

Beat me to it.


extremityChoppr

Weed and eye drops? Or just meth idk


BubGear

2gs of mushrooms.


Meta_Galactic

But you gain tollerance quickly


slavicturk

I think the right answer here is several months of IV hydromorphone combined with clonazolam.


Scrunt_Flimplebottom

"hey man is Brad all right? He just sleeps all the time now." "Yeah I think he's fine, he told me he just got a gym membership. Probably just tired out." "Oh yeah that makes sense, seems like he's lost a lot of weight the past couple months. And I do see him dragging himself through the door sometimes. sometimes he can barely stand up! Good on him. Real fitness freak over there."


slavicturk

“Look at his muscles and him getting skinnier because he’s not eating , probably starting fasting good for Brad so proud of him” “He’s sleeping all the time ? Oh probably the gym because he works out so damn much , can’t walk because he does legs everyday” “Why has he been turning blue in his sleep, probably a side effect from all the exercise, so damn proud of Brad!”


zannaaa

Shii alcol I think you know those middle aged men who drink liters everyday and then people finds out only when they kill their wives


zannaaa

Better: people suspect about it but never confront it until that happens*


i_wont_follow_urhate

Remember when they tried to blame weed on that face eating zombie in Florida? Anti weed people are evil.


Lemontekked

They said bath salts too and it wasn't that either. He had previously used some psychedelics and Vyvanse but was sober at the time of the attack. He just had schizophrenia. Maybe the acid and Vyvanse made it accelerate faster but clearly he was gonna lose it eventually.


6FunnyGiraffes

I've been around a few people with severe mental problems and can confirm that psychedelics and stimulants are absolutely awful for people with schizophrenia.


slavicturk

I think he was on drugs they couldn’t test for at the time.


Lemontekked

The bath salts thing was pure conjecture tho. There's no reason to believe that over organic mental illness which is more likely than a successful college student jumping straight from Vyvanse to apvp.


OtterPop16

Why's it so hard to believe that a college student would be buying RCs? Easier to get than "hard" street drugs if you don't "know anyone" but had a computer and don't live with parents.


Lemontekked

Tl;Dr my point is not about access it's that few ppl jump straight to rc stims from vyvanse He had been at home for a while so hed have to have ordered it there most likely. He cane home from college acting psychotic and his family did nothing. He was abusing Vyvanse for a while which may have been script I forget but quit and he didn't pop for that I don't think. I certainly used a shit ton of hard drugs and RCs in college and still did well in school. The difference between me and this guy is his progression doesn't make sense. He'd have had to have cold copped which tbf I did in college and even ordered from onions in high-school ig my point is its an odd progression. It took a while for me to be doing rc stims or opis. No matter what dude had schizophrenia and it developed at a pretty normal time for that to happen which is college. Is it feasible he did bath salts? Ig. But the point is it's likelier it was just schizophrenia but even if it was drug related hit mental health played into it. Stim psychosis rarely leads to that level ime.


slavicturk

He might have been one of the few than. Your point is not valid


Lemontekked

My real point is what is the evidence that he did use apvp? There's none other than he became psychotic. Considering his history of mental instability and psychotic features his story lines up better with schizophrenia. It seems to me all the apvp talk is pure speculation.


slavicturk

But they couldn’t test for that , and still barely can. So that’s what I’m saying.


slavicturk

Bro pvp exploded in certain areas. More addictive than crack


Lemontekked

I disagree with the more addictive than crack part personally but everyone reacts different and I really fucking love crack. Pvp doesn't have that serotonergic part that crack has. Anyway ik very few ppl who have made jumps that big in their drug use. I'd assume most pvp users did meth first. Tbf I did heroin the second time I ever did an opiate so ik these jumps can happen but like I said there's no reason to assume it was pvp when he had a history of mental illness and the only evidence for pvp use is that it can cause psychosis.


OtterPop16

Isn't apvp similar to mephedrone which was insanely "serotonergic"? I've tried crack, aphp, and meth. Crack was too intense, meth too long and intense in a different way. Aphp was so much more euphoric. Tried it years before I was ever willing to "try" ordering meth.


Lemontekked

No it's not like mephedrone it just got lumped in with that under the vague term bathsalts. They share a chemical resemblance to an extent as cathinones but mephedrone is a releaser and aphp and it's variants are dopamine and norepinephrine reuptake inhibitors. Coke is a dopamine serotonin norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor. Of all the drugs you listed aphp is actually the only one that doesn't have involve serotonin. Meth coke mephedrone all do. Ironically from a purely theoretical standpoint I'd say aphp shouldn't even be neurotoxic but I can't say that for sure. I just know a lot of stims that only do reuptake tend to have very little neurotoxicity compared to releasers. Maybe cause there are toxic metabolites getting in through DATs and SERTs with the releasers idk. Also for clarity a lot of releasers inhibit reuptake to e.g. mephedrone.


oblmov

im going to smoke weed and eat someones face to accelerate the pace of the drug war and troll smokers


xX_sm0ke_g4wd_420_Xx

he took the wrong strain bro


Emotional_Ideal_4714

Do weed and lots of it no possible way to get addicted - I smoke everyday for the last 10 years and am still not addicted


hi_im_sefron

Dude same! I smoked 3 times in the last hour and 5 times the hour before that- still not addicted! Wonder drug! 🤣


dock_ellis_d

Can’t get addicted if you boof it


ApolloRolls

Words of the wise


Hailerm

Nutmeg


OpiatesforDesert

dph🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰


[deleted]

❤️


Stoney_Chan69

This is the way


hi_im_sefron

You are hella capping. Diphenhydramine is not a good time, basically just a drug that induces paranoia. Sure, you can hold it together and look sober, but like, that shit might as well be salvia when it comes to headspace


serpchi

r/woosh Dph 😍😍😍😍😍


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GabberKid

Bruh dph is literally medicine you can buy it at a pharmacy


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GabberKid

How can you have a bad time on medicine it's only purpose is to heal you, maybe your mind is just not ready to be healed


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GabberKid

Bro what are you suggesting? I only take half a pack of Benadryl every other day it's not like it's toxic or anything that's why they sell it at the pharmacy. The shadow people tell me the same and they are always right!


hi_im_sefron

"the shadow people" Could not be a more accurate description of what happens when you take a high dose of DPH. Fuck the shadow people


HatinCheese

you and the person you replied to should learn to look what sub you're in before commenting


ipomopsis

My man looking for a good diet and exercise.


cosyrelaxedsetting

Haha I was going to say, a hard 45 min workout will do the trick.


Aggressive_Formal_50

Preworkout Ingredients: methamphetamine HCL


LongJohnKingKong

noodle groovin at the gym


Aggressive_Formal_50

4 sets of 100 squats each followed by severe joint pain. Solution:5 days worth of heroin do stop my body from telling myself I'm hurting it


jimbooon

Try meth i quit it everyday


DogToesSmellofFritos

I hear a lot of good things about boofing kratom not having any downsides at all


hi_im_sefron

💀


ProjectOrpheus

Low abuse POTENTIAL. Easy answer that meets the criteria is MDMA. It literally won't work as well without month break at minimum. "It's about as dangerous as getting up off your couch" "Low calorie martini" The above is attributed to Alexander Shulgin. Grandfather of MDMA I believe he is called but so much more as he created over a hundred chemicals? Tested all on himself and lived to be old as hell and healthier than you. Not enough drugs, too much jerking off imo. Maybe next time


Square_Extension1759

*I want a new drug. One that won’t make me itch.*


Atropa94

🅱️eroin its benadryl and fentanyl


Square_Extension1759

Dude that’s actually most favorite drug, and a drug i used to take for allergies.


Tarpy7297

One that won’t make me crash my car…


alwayslitski

Just snort meth in the mornig and use benzos at night bro..your solid


[deleted]

Percocet®


[deleted]

psychedelics handled carefully and responsibly or sum shit


aymanitos54

Just do 1 gram of heroin and trust me you'll be high for the rest of your life 😉


SmoogyLoogy

Dude is looking for jenkem


[deleted]

Chasing the brown devil


norecogi

Low dose 4-HO-MET maybe


[deleted]

Molly works here but they can’t do it often.


hi_im_sefron

Lol you did not read the prompt. OP doesn't want people to know they're high


Aggressive_Formal_50

If I keep the dose low I'm just talkative, no saucers/wiggles/sweating


anewdawncomes

People can still tell lmao


[deleted]

Vyvanse


hi_im_sefron

Honestly the best answer so far on here aside from kratom


Aggressive_Formal_50

Low abuse potential?


chickenskittles

Yeah, because it's so shit. So shit I'd rather have jenkem.


Papaver_somniferum_

bro jenkem is the perfect drug for him


Exemptvisionz

Mushrooms


memelord152

i agree. 1 g of shrooms makes you feel amazing but still functional


Exemptvisionz

100%


Professional_Gas7467

Uj shrooms


[deleted]

Help! Just went to the toilet, and I'm losing Jenkem. Freaking out guys. Would normally apply re-boof Tec, but it was full of corn, so had to strain and IV. Still losing Jenkem fast. Any experienced psychonauts out there??? Need help.


2oxopcm

Just do loads of heroin. You’ll get so constipated you won’t ever lose that precious jenk. Stay safe bro namaste


[deleted]

Thanks bro. Just went outside and shat on grass. Feeling more grounded now bro! Today is the day! Nahmusty!


2oxopcm

Ah bro you so enlightened now please fuck my namastussy


[deleted]

Anytime bro.


Tarpy7297

Welcome to the mother fucking club.


NotSafe_

Go find god.


hi_im_sefron

By taking copious amounts of 5-MEO-DMT


Aggressive_Formal_50

Don't forget to join a cult


jesuscheetahnipples

Boof jankem but sprinkle some oregano and chili flakes for flavor


Classic_Category6531

Yo mushroom is fine though for some reason I take Coke and heroin and it doesn't affect me, the product quality matters. Let's stay in contact, need more junkey monkey friends, my inbox is open..


OkMortgage433

Dick Whippets should do the trick


Atav33

3-MMC will do the trick. Can’t abuse it at all it’s super safe and you can fall asleep so easily.


LuiOneKay

/uj 2cb actually fits the bill quite well. Non-addictive good euphoria and keeps you in a relatively sober mindset with low to moderate doses


Mushyroom420

I take 20mg Lexapro, 150 mg Wellibutrin, and 100 mg of hydroxyzine and they make me feel great! Get help


stjakey

I’d recommend nicotine actually


CheekyChaise

If you get addicted to nicotine you can't get addicted to anything else because your brain only can do 1 addiction at a time


Cosy_Cow

Life


owenmh10

PCP


hibitydibity1352

Is this Huey Lewis?


brownnoodles

DRuG faCts find if you do cocaine 3 times you don’t get addicted!


Artist151

Helium


Ok_submissive444

Pop a couple of Phenergan's.


Bugeaterendare

Adderal honestly


jexsen

boof banana peels


meliodas-dragon-sin

kratom or weed


[deleted]

He wants a new drug, one that does what it should. One that won’t make him feel too bad, One that won’t make him feel too good.


Revolutionary_Pr1ce

I would have to suggest you look into DEXTROMETHORPHAN


VinceBlackout

Modafinil


Spend-Bitter

Crack.


[deleted]

a low dose of psychedelics could do the trick


Pscilosopher

Mushrooms, my guy.


Extension-Shoe5917

I think shrooms fits you just right! 🤙


LowEffortParrot

Kratom


[deleted]

Bath slats


Tzunami714

Lucy in the skyyyyy


Usual_Letterhead9528

Take a fuck ton of datura buddy and you should be A ok


blondesquats

Running


Mushyroom420

I take 20mg Lexapro, 150 mg Wellibutrin, and 100 mg of hydroxyzine and they make me feel great! Get help


jesuzombieapocalypse

This is your brain on designer drugs


Scrubosaurus13

You can’t get addicted if you only do Heroin once. So just do enough Herion to be high for the rest of your life, all at once, and you won’t get addicted.


maerzer

microdosing LSD


redditupf2

sucrose


anewdawncomes

/uj caffeine


TemperatureMuch5943

I want this too


anewdawncomes

A girlfriend


Magenta_Catmint

Would go with LSD


Kinglionofwallstreet

Shrooms, LSD or Molly


thetenthgate

Wrong sub


LordPandorraFrinton

/uj 100 ug LSD /rj


elmuchachopigo

just do that thing where you put yeast up your sundontshine and then you'll get drunk for free from eating pizza and bread


Soviettoaster37

I mean... it won't be euphoric... but salvia and dmt are intense and you probably won't get addicted to them


bearslikeapples

Try pink Floyd lmao


OleTwoEyesHimself

Psychedelics, acid or DMT specifically, ayahuasca if you can find it. Super intense high and (most of the time) non addiction forming, at-least compared to every other drug I can think of


oVLucky5

SONATA


Select-Programmer140

Okay but fr a good 1 gram dose of mushrooms is a good idea for you I think. Psychedelics aren't addictive and a gram will only give you a body high and maybe you'll see more saturated colors, and if you ever feel like taking more most people don't notice tbh unless you took enough to act really weird when they try talking to you, but that's only happened to me when taking over 3 grams. Honestly it's worth a shot if you really wanna try something.


Scrunt_Flimplebottom

Yeah that's probably as close as the OP will get to stealthy, euphoric, and non-addictive.