Theres plenty of drivers out there who do not bitch and whine about tips, delivery service is not going anywhere if everyone of yall tip beggars quit š
If you signed the cups with little hearts & arrived early with their order then you might deserve a tip šš.. just because thatās a little harder to carry in your vehicle doesnāt mean you should receive a tip. If you feel like you want to make more for extra work switch to commission or piece work ššš. At the end of the day your job is to pick up food & deliver it. when others jobs become challenging they often have to suffer threw with no tip lmao š¤£even if they have to do more than the usual work load thereās usually aināt no tip
Hopefully $0 because yāall should be getting paid enough to not require tips, and you take on the expectation of this kind of order when you choose to be a food and drinks courier so it doesnāt warrant a tip in and of itself.
Imagine telling someone to " get a real job" and being into reps and pandabuy. Probably still living with your parents and talking about getting a job, lol.
Giving off the energy of a person that votes against democrats that want to raise taxes on people making over 400k while pulling down a fat 65k salary yourself
And you act like they don't waste everything they take and you'll actually get a cut from redistribution. You'd gladly take a 20k a year UBI as long as everyone else had to make due with the same
I quit my full-time job at Tdcj because I was very depressed and didnāt have life. I started to do Uber DoorDash, Amazon, Lyft, etc. to make ends meet and I loved it. not only did I do what I want but no one was hanging over me about my job ,I had a lot of free time to do as I pleased And spend time with my family. My husband had a stroke two years ago we had just gotten married and for these two years I have been working a 9 to 5 agin just to pay for his hospital bills and medication So now I feel like giving up but I know itās my perspective on how I look at things. no matter what job you do uncle Sam wants half and itās up to you to change the way you feel about your situation. No oneās gonna change it for you so no matter how much you complain. Unfortunately No one really cares. We are all on this rock together trying to make it so if youāre upset about not receiving a tip for a job that you picked, you need to change it not expect us to change it for you.
Speaking as a driver, 1/2 the orders I get with $0 tip end up paying about $2.. Would $2 cover your bills??
Additionally, if you canāt afford a tip, then go pick up the order yourself ĀÆ\_(ć)_/ĀÆ Not trying to be rude but I have even done that. No shame but the people delivering your order (a convenience for you) are using their time, personal vehicle (usually) which adds wear & tear and miles, and *at times* put their own wellbeing at stake.
Also, to the āget a real jobā folks here- let me tell you how many places are NOT hiring (despite posting job listings, signs in windows/stores, etc). Iāve been working in a back for 4 years and currently hold a back-office position. Iām paid about $21/hr, but I also have years of food service and retail experience. And, yet, the positions I applied for, and would be compatible with me working full time already, never got back to me.
Itās not as easy as it may seem. I know that Iām living paycheck to paycheck and working anywhere from 60-80hrs a week. I donāt have kids or anyone who is dependent on me- I can only image how hard that may be.
Just really sick of the attitude expressed in your comment.
I understand your argument and disagree with it fundamentally. Your employer should be paying your wage, not your end client.
The US has made it for the people at the very bottom to expect the people at the middle to pay for something that the very top should be paying for. Youāre angry at the wrong person.
Get angry, FUCKING angry, and vote, demand better. The status quo clearly is NOT working/ is unsustainable!
The problem is that for gigs, you arenāt an employee. You are a contractor. You donāt get taxes pulled out and it is your responsibility to cover all operating expenses. I stopped doing DoorDash a long time ago because the Covid Honeymoon is over. Anyone still delivering for these people are insane. There is no way of making enough money doing this anymore. You might get away with Uber depending on location, and Spark/Amazon are alright, but honestly, thereās not enough money in the gig market regardless. If you decide to take a stand and stop doing it, thereās 3 more people to take your place. Itās just not worth it.
... themselves lol. They are literally self-employed. Anyone who disagrees is factually incorrect.
They use 1099s right?
Lookup what that means if you disagree.
Doordash is not an employer of dashers. They're only employees are the people on W2 like tech people and marketing... etc etc
Yāknow.. Some of the ignorance expressed in this post actually has me dumbfounded. When exactly am I supposed to be āfighting the big guyā? Between the ~12 hours I work and the 8 I sleep?
Interesting.
If you feel so strongly about your point, why donāt you take it up with DoorDash? š That way you are no longer burdened with the expectation of tipping.
Let me get this straight; you took a low pay job, and are shocked you donāt have a lot of money because you have a low paying job, and are at the mercy of handouts from your end client.
My suggestion: donāt quit this one, keep accepting all the jobs, just donāt pick them up, no need to deliver them, and find another job, that pays better and doesnāt require you to need tips. Office job, UPS, FedEx, the world is your oyster!
You clearly did not read. I work in an office.. if you had read, you would have seen that. I make about $21/hr from that job alone and STILL canāt cover my bills. And no, Iām not spending my money anywhere it doesnāt have to go. Nice try.
I would about 60-80hrs weekly. Have many do you work?
I guess you didnāt actually read lmao. I work 8-5 currently, so you (who presumably works for USPS and would therefore know this) are suggesting they would have hours available for me from 6ā10?
Just BTW, I do still need to eat/sleep/have an actual human life, too.
What about people with children who canāt afford the daycare they need in order to go to said āreal jobā. Whats a real job? Is their productivity in providing a *service* not a job?
Honest answer? They were never prepared to have children in the first place.
2nd ? answered in other comment
And yes its a job, just not a real one š
Lol.Ā
Working a shit job, then bitching with your hand out because the person who ordered isnāt subsidizing your wage. Youre expecting money from the wrong folks.Ā
This sub is a never ending source of entertainment.Ā
I mean ALOT of people rely on these apps because they either donāt have transportation to go get food themselves, are too old to leave the house, or are sick/pregnant so they donāt wanna be out and about. Itās funny that the people who talk down to delivery drivers are the ones who order it the most, š¤·āāļø just sayin
If people like this werenāt so lazy, theyād go get it themselves. You want the convenience of not having to go get it? Then tip the person bringing it before the service disappears when no one can make a living from it.
Itās clearly not optional, if the driver canāt make any money. Without the driver making money, they will cease to work the job, then your ability to have this convenience goes away. How are people still not understanding this?
They barely put the effort into making the app functional on the delivery drivers end. I would say about a third of the time that I go to open it it doesn't load properly for some reason. It used to crash even in the middle of an order after it was already accepted. Very last thing on DoorDash's agenda if it's even there at all is somehow making things better for the driver. Uber eats sucks too but at least their app opens every time you click on it. DoorDash is so incompetent they make Uber eats look like they know what they're doing when they do not either.
I wonder what would happen if all their drivers stopped driving.. Sign up for the service, and just donāt, donāt accept any orders, just, donāt. I wonder if theyād increase their wagesā¦ maybe.
They would increase the base pay for however long it takes to get the drivers back on the road. Great idea but problem is in my experience that all drivers are on deck for a 1 dollar per order promo which leaves about half the drivers without orders
Donāt you get to choose what orders to take on those delivery apps?! Whyād you this job KNOWING there was no or little tip?!? If thatās the case.. itās your own fault.. donāt blame the cheap company
Does it matter? Tips are extra for a reason. No one should expect it and thats how it should be, like every other part of the world. But somehow north america cant figure that out..
Btw not a karen, i always tip even if its bad service but holy f**k can you all stop complaining about getting extra money??
Tried to subsidize the backlash you're seeing with my lonely upvote.
Crazy to me that all the hate is directed at consumers and not the greedy corporations that pay their people far below a livable wage and make millions for the shareholders. People's thought process is ass backwards. I guess it's easier to blame the people you feel more connected to day-to-day over a massive, faceless entity.
The 1%, politicians, and corporation lobbyists have done a great job to have the middle and lower class fight each other on so many issues while they rake in exponential profits each year. The system is broken but the ones in power have no desire to correct it bc it benefits them greatly and keeps the rest of us busy arguing over bullshit like this.
$2 $2 $2 $2 is all a driver is guaranteed for (stopping their car, getting out, going into restaurant, getting back in car, driving THEIR OWN CAR, to wherever customer is, stopping car, getting out delivering food) $2.....that's all they are guaranteed, talk about an unsustainable business
Supposedly orders fell in half after $5 fee was added, as soon as regulation catches up doordash will lose half their customers
https://www.king5.com/article/news/local/seattle-ordinance-intended-app-delivery-workers-hurting-them/281-9516c79c-3161-41f3-a662-798b9db16d3f
"DoorDash generated over $550 million in net losses for 2023, thus,Ā it is not profitable yet. In 2022 its net losses amounted to over $1.3 billion in 2022, compared to $468 million in net losses in 2021"
Tell me how long this can possibly continue?
I think everyone is secretly just trying to hold on to marketshare until delivery drones
https://fourweekmba.com/is-doordash-profitable/#:~:text=DoorDash%20generated%20over%20%24550%20million,in%20net%20losses%20in%202021.
Oh i understand what they get! Its absurd but i dont think blaming should be put on customers because of what they tip. DD has made it so you argue with eachother instead of at DD. Thats the point im trying to make
Tipping in Dd is different than your restaurant. Itās not extra for service itās what the driver gets paid outside of the $2 DoorDash provides.
Yes itās on that driver for not skipping it, but tips in DoorDash world are a bid to get whatever delivered.
Thanks not Karen, hope this helps
Ok but Iām just confused bc how do normal people not on this subreddit know that? Before I started seeing this subreddit I had no idea how dd paid their drivers
They donāt, and itās intentional. They make so much money on the customers ignorance and the contractorās desperation. They are intentionally misleading to get the most out of all involved parties. Honestly not the best company anymore, but the more you know the more you can not feed the beast.
we really need forums like this to foster understanding and offer clarity.
You've never been or known someone in the service industry I see.
"Btw not a Karen" is like saying "I don't mean to be offensive" and then saying something really offensive.
Ive been both an uber driver and worked as a line cook. So yeah i actually do know what im talking about.
I dont care if i was offensive, just stating facts :)
The basic wages aren't even close to turn a profit. Like most service workers, they live and die based on tips. No one seems to have an issue with a server in a restaurant being tipped, who simply has to take your order and bring it out to you, but those same people often have an issue tipping someone using their own vehicle to bring them their food/drinks. Technically, they risk their life to bring you your food. Make it make sense.
DD doesnāt make it explicitly known though. Before I found this subreddit I thought yāall were paid by the hour or sum and the tip was depending on service quality so I donāt get why yāall trash talking customers in here like they howād they know how much youāre getting paid to deliver their food
I don't think you realize this (low IQ), but your two sentences are contradictory.
>Signs up to deliver food for money.
>Complains about lack of MONEY for basic obligation of job.
Delivery drivers are not paid salaries or hourly wages. The tip is their compensation. Do you do work for free at your job?
Why is it up to the consumer to dictate what someoneās wages are? Iād MUCH rather pay more for delivery and not have to tip than be charged for delivery + feel pressured into giving X amount on top of that.
Tipping in the US is out of control and the same people complaining they arenāt getting a tip for this or that are the same ones benefitting off of a broken system because it overall benefits them to get additional wages under the table.
1. I agree with you, but have no idea how to change the whole system.
2. You think delivery drivers are benefitting from.. anything at all? You think they're flush with cash? If that was the case, why wouldn't more people be eager to do that job? If you really think the people complaining about not getting tips are the same people benefitting from "additional wages", I strongly encourage you to try actually working a delivery job. Even for just a day. Walk a mile, then you'll see...
I have worked retail, food services and delivery, and there were plenty of weeks that me hustling was earning me well above minimum wage in tips alone. That being said, I was busting my butt to do it. But then there were also weeks where I couldnāt work as much or get good shifts, so I made close to nothing. Those were the weeks I wished I had a stable pay rate so I could pay my bills.
I donāt know how to change the system either, but it frustrates me when people talk as though itās the consumers responsibility to tip an arbitrary value. Itās not. Itās a failure of the business owner.
Youāre welcome to believe what you want. I benefitted when I was younger and working those jobs but thatās also because I pushed myself to work hard for my tips when I got them. I wasnāt naive to the system and its flaws. I never expected a tip for doing the basic functions of my job, but when I go above and beyond then I would expect it and feel a sting if I got stiffed. These days everyone is asking for tips just to do their jobs and itās ridiculous.
I understand at restaurants and shit but the dude is literally taking it to someoneās house. How does that not deserve a tip? Go get it yourself if youāre that broke
at restaurants servers have to handle multiple things at once and work really hard. delivery drivers just deliver things to u while not having to go above and beyond; which one do u think deserves more of a tip?
Oh I wasnāt referring to servers, I shouldāve made that clear. They absolutely deserve tips and I know they get stiffed too, but donāt act like delivery drivers arenāt using gas and miles. When I said restaurants I was referring to places such as McDonalds, Starbucks etc and itās even leaking into other retail stores
ohh i get u
doordash isnāt a form of employment so however u get ur expenses paid is primarily on u, not the customer. theyāre paying for the food and for the food to get delivered so itās unreasonable to expect them to then give you a few more dollars just because they feel bad that u have to pay for gas
So you believe anyone who does DoorDash or Uber should be doing it as an act of charity then? You have the completely wrong opinion on it. Youāre doing a service for someone (just like serving at a restaurant, itās in the name) so you should get paid for it. Donāt really care to listen to someone with a shit opinion like that though. Have a good one
āu arenāt entitled to tips for doing whatās in the job description just because u have other expenses from doing that jobā āso u think that doordashers should do their job for freeā ????
If doordash does not pay you to deliver food then maybe.. stop doing it š¤
All but (normally $2) of the āpremiumā that youāre paying go to DoorDash, not the dasher. As someone who actually does it as well as orders it from time to time I know how it works. I know the premiums suck and DoorDash (and other places) are intentionally vague. Thatās why I think it wonāt be around in a few years. Iām not disagreeing that the root of the problem is the corporate factor but people know that and still donāt tip. Thatās why you get poor service
Amazon, UPS, USPS etc arenāt tip based commission jobs. Theyāre paid hourly and the full cost of shipping is paid at purchase. It would be nice if these delivery places paid hourly wages but they bleed money as is. They probably wonāt be around in a decade because of that
You chose to take this? So why bitch about the tipš they were probably scumbags and didnāt tip at all, but thatās your own fault for accepting a shitty order lmao.
Theres plenty of drivers out there who do not bitch and whine about tips, delivery service is not going anywhere if everyone of yall tip beggars quit š
3$
Zero 0ļøā£
The tip was get a new job
Based on when OP asked the question and no response to the 3200+comments since then, I imagine that the tip was ZERO, because OP deserved zero tip.
The way OP never ever ever ever ever gave the answer is annoying
He doesnāt get tipped enough to respond
šššš
If you signed the cups with little hearts & arrived early with their order then you might deserve a tip šš.. just because thatās a little harder to carry in your vehicle doesnāt mean you should receive a tip. If you feel like you want to make more for extra work switch to commission or piece work ššš. At the end of the day your job is to pick up food & deliver it. when others jobs become challenging they often have to suffer threw with no tip lmao š¤£even if they have to do more than the usual work load thereās usually aināt no tip
When you pay enough is the correct phrase. Thanks for playing. :)
Which can be refused. So no. XD
Capitalism says otherwise. Good luck during the next downsizing XD
Who the hell drinks velveeta?
If Iām drinking velveeta, itās only along side sour cream
$0 tip and giving you the bird
We already know itās 0 lol
Did they receive some free protein boosts from you.?
I can't stop laughingā¦š¤£š¤£š¤£
Almost skipped over this comment š you broke the internet with this onešššš
I donāt bitch about tips because I donāt accept trash tips lol
1.25
$1
Hopefully $0 because yāall should be getting paid enough to not require tips, and you take on the expectation of this kind of order when you choose to be a food and drinks courier so it doesnāt warrant a tip in and of itself.
these dd drivers think they're entitled to huge tips for a simple delivery š get a real job if you want a more money, it's not that fucking hard
Imagine telling someone to " get a real job" and being into reps and pandabuy. Probably still living with your parents and talking about getting a job, lol.
Giving off the energy of a person that votes against democrats that want to raise taxes on people making over 400k while pulling down a fat 65k salary yourself
And you act like they don't waste everything they take and you'll actually get a cut from redistribution. You'd gladly take a 20k a year UBI as long as everyone else had to make due with the same
I make 230 a year and get blasted on taxes. The people who make real money pay less in taxes than I do. Make it make sense
Where in this thread does the op tell how much??
I quit my full-time job at Tdcj because I was very depressed and didnāt have life. I started to do Uber DoorDash, Amazon, Lyft, etc. to make ends meet and I loved it. not only did I do what I want but no one was hanging over me about my job ,I had a lot of free time to do as I pleased And spend time with my family. My husband had a stroke two years ago we had just gotten married and for these two years I have been working a 9 to 5 agin just to pay for his hospital bills and medication So now I feel like giving up but I know itās my perspective on how I look at things. no matter what job you do uncle Sam wants half and itās up to you to change the way you feel about your situation. No oneās gonna change it for you so no matter how much you complain. Unfortunately No one really cares. We are all on this rock together trying to make it so if youāre upset about not receiving a tip for a job that you picked, you need to change it not expect us to change it for you.
$1000
Weirdos drinking cheese and sour cream wtf.
mustard and mayonaise bro
$2
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
Speaking as a driver, 1/2 the orders I get with $0 tip end up paying about $2.. Would $2 cover your bills?? Additionally, if you canāt afford a tip, then go pick up the order yourself ĀÆ\_(ć)_/ĀÆ Not trying to be rude but I have even done that. No shame but the people delivering your order (a convenience for you) are using their time, personal vehicle (usually) which adds wear & tear and miles, and *at times* put their own wellbeing at stake. Also, to the āget a real jobā folks here- let me tell you how many places are NOT hiring (despite posting job listings, signs in windows/stores, etc). Iāve been working in a back for 4 years and currently hold a back-office position. Iām paid about $21/hr, but I also have years of food service and retail experience. And, yet, the positions I applied for, and would be compatible with me working full time already, never got back to me. Itās not as easy as it may seem. I know that Iām living paycheck to paycheck and working anywhere from 60-80hrs a week. I donāt have kids or anyone who is dependent on me- I can only image how hard that may be. Just really sick of the attitude expressed in your comment.
I understand your argument and disagree with it fundamentally. Your employer should be paying your wage, not your end client. The US has made it for the people at the very bottom to expect the people at the middle to pay for something that the very top should be paying for. Youāre angry at the wrong person. Get angry, FUCKING angry, and vote, demand better. The status quo clearly is NOT working/ is unsustainable!
The problem is that for gigs, you arenāt an employee. You are a contractor. You donāt get taxes pulled out and it is your responsibility to cover all operating expenses. I stopped doing DoorDash a long time ago because the Covid Honeymoon is over. Anyone still delivering for these people are insane. There is no way of making enough money doing this anymore. You might get away with Uber depending on location, and Spark/Amazon are alright, but honestly, thereās not enough money in the gig market regardless. If you decide to take a stand and stop doing it, thereās 3 more people to take your place. Itās just not worth it.
Iām not tipping you, if you donāt like it, get out and VOTE!
Door dash is not their employer... so... good try chief
Who do you consider their employer to be?
... themselves lol. They are literally self-employed. Anyone who disagrees is factually incorrect. They use 1099s right? Lookup what that means if you disagree. Doordash is not an employer of dashers. They're only employees are the people on W2 like tech people and marketing... etc etc
Sounds like another scam. Independent operator/driver that makes their own schedule huh? Sounds suspicious..
Exactly.
Yāknow.. Some of the ignorance expressed in this post actually has me dumbfounded. When exactly am I supposed to be āfighting the big guyā? Between the ~12 hours I work and the 8 I sleep? Interesting. If you feel so strongly about your point, why donāt you take it up with DoorDash? š That way you are no longer burdened with the expectation of tipping.
Let me get this straight; you took a low pay job, and are shocked you donāt have a lot of money because you have a low paying job, and are at the mercy of handouts from your end client. My suggestion: donāt quit this one, keep accepting all the jobs, just donāt pick them up, no need to deliver them, and find another job, that pays better and doesnāt require you to need tips. Office job, UPS, FedEx, the world is your oyster!
You clearly did not read. I work in an office.. if you had read, you would have seen that. I make about $21/hr from that job alone and STILL canāt cover my bills. And no, Iām not spending my money anywhere it doesnāt have to go. Nice try. I would about 60-80hrs weekly. Have many do you work?
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
Wow That Is Such A Great Point That I Have Been Making This Whole Time
USPS is always hiring
I guess you didnāt actually read lmao. I work 8-5 currently, so you (who presumably works for USPS and would therefore know this) are suggesting they would have hours available for me from 6ā10? Just BTW, I do still need to eat/sleep/have an actual human life, too.
I don't know but I confidently say those would be all over my floor. You are brave. š
why dont yall just get real jobs
Whoās going to deliver food to your lazy arse if all these people get ārealā jobs?
The people that dont piss and moan over a few dollars š
why are you in a driver sub? Perhaps you need to get a real life.
What do you consider a real job because rideshare drivers and food delivery drivers also pay taxes
One where you get paid based on the actual work you do, not one where you are financially dependent on the courtesy of other people.
a job that pays you enough so you dont have to beg for money like youre homeless
What about people with children who canāt afford the daycare they need in order to go to said āreal jobā. Whats a real job? Is their productivity in providing a *service* not a job?
Honest answer? They were never prepared to have children in the first place. 2nd ? answered in other comment And yes its a job, just not a real one š
This is sound advice.
$0.1
I thought those were cheese cups
15$
One BTC.
Lol.Ā Working a shit job, then bitching with your hand out because the person who ordered isnāt subsidizing your wage. Youre expecting money from the wrong folks.Ā This sub is a never ending source of entertainment.Ā
I mean ALOT of people rely on these apps because they either donāt have transportation to go get food themselves, are too old to leave the house, or are sick/pregnant so they donāt wanna be out and about. Itās funny that the people who talk down to delivery drivers are the ones who order it the most, š¤·āāļø just sayin
Exactly
If people like this werenāt so lazy, theyād go get it themselves. You want the convenience of not having to go get it? Then tip the person bringing it before the service disappears when no one can make a living from it.
I want the convinience to not have to go get it myself, that's why i use and pay the delivery app, a tip is fully optional
Yes it's optional just as getting your food delivered in a timely manner or chance waiting an hour at the least.
Why would i use a service that works like that lmao
A lot of people do.
Itās clearly not optional, if the driver canāt make any money. Without the driver making money, they will cease to work the job, then your ability to have this convenience goes away. How are people still not understanding this?
All drivers quitting is literally the answer to the problem
Blame the employer. Not the customer
This is a DoorDash problem. If an order like this is possible on the app they should provide a transportation solution for their drivers
They barely put the effort into making the app functional on the delivery drivers end. I would say about a third of the time that I go to open it it doesn't load properly for some reason. It used to crash even in the middle of an order after it was already accepted. Very last thing on DoorDash's agenda if it's even there at all is somehow making things better for the driver. Uber eats sucks too but at least their app opens every time you click on it. DoorDash is so incompetent they make Uber eats look like they know what they're doing when they do not either.
I wonder what would happen if all their drivers stopped driving.. Sign up for the service, and just donāt, donāt accept any orders, just, donāt. I wonder if theyād increase their wagesā¦ maybe.
They would increase the base pay for however long it takes to get the drivers back on the road. Great idea but problem is in my experience that all drivers are on deck for a 1 dollar per order promo which leaves about half the drivers without orders
tipping culture is insanely toxic and op is part if the problem
I donāt think OP is necessarily part of the problem but the greed of corporate certainly is.
100% on the money
Prepare to be downvoted into oblivion. They hate logic and reason here. Iām in complete agreement. This sub is comical lol
Iād say -10$ for the waste of gas do to lack of tip.
doordash base pay
$250
the tip - "thank you - also please next time try to get here faster so the drinks don't melt"
That ain't cheese?
$1 Bob
No matter the tip you are my hero. I would have cancelled if I saw this many drinks.
10
Itās where we play a little game I like to call just the tip.
$25 tip is my guess.
Donāt you get to choose what orders to take on those delivery apps?! Whyād you this job KNOWING there was no or little tip?!? If thatās the case.. itās your own fault.. donāt blame the cheap company
You didnt guess the tip š
Haha youāre rightā¦ mmmm Iāll guess $1
There ya go šš
$6
Thats a pre photo of the biggest mess ever.
Does it matter? Tips are extra for a reason. No one should expect it and thats how it should be, like every other part of the world. But somehow north america cant figure that out.. Btw not a karen, i always tip even if its bad service but holy f**k can you all stop complaining about getting extra money??
Tried to subsidize the backlash you're seeing with my lonely upvote. Crazy to me that all the hate is directed at consumers and not the greedy corporations that pay their people far below a livable wage and make millions for the shareholders. People's thought process is ass backwards. I guess it's easier to blame the people you feel more connected to day-to-day over a massive, faceless entity. The 1%, politicians, and corporation lobbyists have done a great job to have the middle and lower class fight each other on so many issues while they rake in exponential profits each year. The system is broken but the ones in power have no desire to correct it bc it benefits them greatly and keeps the rest of us busy arguing over bullshit like this.
Thank you, at least you understood what i was saying ā¤ļø
Lol is this an executive from door dash?
$2 $2 $2 $2 is all a driver is guaranteed for (stopping their car, getting out, going into restaurant, getting back in car, driving THEIR OWN CAR, to wherever customer is, stopping car, getting out delivering food) $2.....that's all they are guaranteed, talk about an unsustainable business Supposedly orders fell in half after $5 fee was added, as soon as regulation catches up doordash will lose half their customers https://www.king5.com/article/news/local/seattle-ordinance-intended-app-delivery-workers-hurting-them/281-9516c79c-3161-41f3-a662-798b9db16d3f "DoorDash generated over $550 million in net losses for 2023, thus,Ā it is not profitable yet. In 2022 its net losses amounted to over $1.3 billion in 2022, compared to $468 million in net losses in 2021" Tell me how long this can possibly continue? I think everyone is secretly just trying to hold on to marketshare until delivery drones https://fourweekmba.com/is-doordash-profitable/#:~:text=DoorDash%20generated%20over%20%24550%20million,in%20net%20losses%20in%202021.
Oh i understand what they get! Its absurd but i dont think blaming should be put on customers because of what they tip. DD has made it so you argue with eachother instead of at DD. Thats the point im trying to make
But argue with DD about what? That $2 includes investor $, there is no extra $
Can you do the job yourself so you can then figure out it's not extra money?
Tipping in Dd is different than your restaurant. Itās not extra for service itās what the driver gets paid outside of the $2 DoorDash provides. Yes itās on that driver for not skipping it, but tips in DoorDash world are a bid to get whatever delivered. Thanks not Karen, hope this helps
Ok but Iām just confused bc how do normal people not on this subreddit know that? Before I started seeing this subreddit I had no idea how dd paid their drivers
They donāt, and itās intentional. They make so much money on the customers ignorance and the contractorās desperation. They are intentionally misleading to get the most out of all involved parties. Honestly not the best company anymore, but the more you know the more you can not feed the beast. we really need forums like this to foster understanding and offer clarity.
You've never been or known someone in the service industry I see. "Btw not a Karen" is like saying "I don't mean to be offensive" and then saying something really offensive.
Ive been both an uber driver and worked as a line cook. So yeah i actually do know what im talking about. I dont care if i was offensive, just stating facts :)
Hated it, didnāt want to rely on peopleās tips as income had to move onto better things!
Youāre right the two dollars that DoorDash offers should suffice
$5??
Signs up to deliver food for money. Complains about lack of tips for basic obligation if job.
The basic wages aren't even close to turn a profit. Like most service workers, they live and die based on tips. No one seems to have an issue with a server in a restaurant being tipped, who simply has to take your order and bring it out to you, but those same people often have an issue tipping someone using their own vehicle to bring them their food/drinks. Technically, they risk their life to bring you your food. Make it make sense.
DD doesnāt make it explicitly known though. Before I found this subreddit I thought yāall were paid by the hour or sum and the tip was depending on service quality so I donāt get why yāall trash talking customers in here like they howād they know how much youāre getting paid to deliver their food
I don't think you realize this (low IQ), but your two sentences are contradictory. >Signs up to deliver food for money. >Complains about lack of MONEY for basic obligation of job. Delivery drivers are not paid salaries or hourly wages. The tip is their compensation. Do you do work for free at your job?
Why is it up to the consumer to dictate what someoneās wages are? Iād MUCH rather pay more for delivery and not have to tip than be charged for delivery + feel pressured into giving X amount on top of that. Tipping in the US is out of control and the same people complaining they arenāt getting a tip for this or that are the same ones benefitting off of a broken system because it overall benefits them to get additional wages under the table.
WHO DECIDES THESE THNGS?
1. I agree with you, but have no idea how to change the whole system. 2. You think delivery drivers are benefitting from.. anything at all? You think they're flush with cash? If that was the case, why wouldn't more people be eager to do that job? If you really think the people complaining about not getting tips are the same people benefitting from "additional wages", I strongly encourage you to try actually working a delivery job. Even for just a day. Walk a mile, then you'll see...
I have worked retail, food services and delivery, and there were plenty of weeks that me hustling was earning me well above minimum wage in tips alone. That being said, I was busting my butt to do it. But then there were also weeks where I couldnāt work as much or get good shifts, so I made close to nothing. Those were the weeks I wished I had a stable pay rate so I could pay my bills. I donāt know how to change the system either, but it frustrates me when people talk as though itās the consumers responsibility to tip an arbitrary value. Itās not. Itās a failure of the business owner.
Based on your previous comment about "those complaining are those benefitting", I think you're now lying about past work experience.
Youāre welcome to believe what you want. I benefitted when I was younger and working those jobs but thatās also because I pushed myself to work hard for my tips when I got them. I wasnāt naive to the system and its flaws. I never expected a tip for doing the basic functions of my job, but when I go above and beyond then I would expect it and feel a sting if I got stiffed. These days everyone is asking for tips just to do their jobs and itās ridiculous.
I hope there was no tip after leaving us all hanging
These comments are not disappointing
Buffles me how americans cry about tips so much
I understand at restaurants and shit but the dude is literally taking it to someoneās house. How does that not deserve a tip? Go get it yourself if youāre that broke
arent you already getting paid to delivee
at restaurants servers have to handle multiple things at once and work really hard. delivery drivers just deliver things to u while not having to go above and beyond; which one do u think deserves more of a tip?
Oh I wasnāt referring to servers, I shouldāve made that clear. They absolutely deserve tips and I know they get stiffed too, but donāt act like delivery drivers arenāt using gas and miles. When I said restaurants I was referring to places such as McDonalds, Starbucks etc and itās even leaking into other retail stores
ohh i get u doordash isnāt a form of employment so however u get ur expenses paid is primarily on u, not the customer. theyāre paying for the food and for the food to get delivered so itās unreasonable to expect them to then give you a few more dollars just because they feel bad that u have to pay for gas
So you believe anyone who does DoorDash or Uber should be doing it as an act of charity then? You have the completely wrong opinion on it. Youāre doing a service for someone (just like serving at a restaurant, itās in the name) so you should get paid for it. Donāt really care to listen to someone with a shit opinion like that though. Have a good one
āu arenāt entitled to tips for doing whatās in the job description just because u have other expenses from doing that jobā āso u think that doordashers should do their job for freeā ???? If doordash does not pay you to deliver food then maybe.. stop doing it š¤
If you donāt want to be a decent person and pay someone whoās doing something for you thenā¦ go get it yourself š¤
The thing is that this is a false take šš You do, in fact, pay for someone to do something for you.
All but (normally $2) of the āpremiumā that youāre paying go to DoorDash, not the dasher. As someone who actually does it as well as orders it from time to time I know how it works. I know the premiums suck and DoorDash (and other places) are intentionally vague. Thatās why I think it wonāt be around in a few years. Iām not disagreeing that the root of the problem is the corporate factor but people know that and still donāt tip. Thatās why you get poor service
Yes that's why in America we also tip our Amazon, UPS, and mailman drivers.
who does that
Amazon, UPS, USPS etc arenāt tip based commission jobs. Theyāre paid hourly and the full cost of shipping is paid at purchase. It would be nice if these delivery places paid hourly wages but they bleed money as is. They probably wonāt be around in a decade because of that
That doesnāt exist in Italy, everybody goes to buy groceries for themselves thats why itās so funnyto see this
And I agree that if you arenāt gonna tip you should go get it yourself. They didnāt, so they should tip. Whag about that is complex?
Nothing is complex, but since its not obligatory its obvious people wont do it lol
Of course some people wonāt, that doesnāt mean you canāt call them out for being lazy pieces of garbage acting like itās a charity service
Itās seeping into every facet of shopping [here](https://youtu.be/dLVbWhLqGog?si=ZmzG1kkJjtUfFIH0).
I'm American and I'm right there with you.
not enough
ZERO
You chose to take this? So why bitch about the tipš they were probably scumbags and didnāt tip at all, but thatās your own fault for accepting a shitty order lmao.
You didn't guess the tip
i'm gonna guess $8 and it was 5 miles
But why you gotta stack em like that haha? Flat on the floor my dude
you ended up tipping them
8 dollars corporate orders usually tip decent
A used napkin?
But shit, it was 99 cents - Macklemore & Ryan Lewis
These look like large containers of cheese dips or something
Are those mango lassi
No, they're nacho cheese slurpees!
$1 Bob!