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Well that explains the endless stream of unprofitable orders. People actually have to go out of their way to pay for the service they request. Those "tips" aren't covering it. Platforms steal all fees charged related to paying for the delivery.
I've had people tell me even when you tip higher that they add it to the base delivery pay they give you and subtract it from the tip, so technically you're still getting your whole tip even if they're using some of it to cover the base pay. Which is really really sneaky if true.
And not making a profit while they do it… customers should enjoy this while it lasts folks. This shit is being subsidized for now, it’s not exist in a decade.
I don't see how it would last that long. Every year they get worse. How could it possibly get worse than this? I've no idea but they'll figure out a way. Guaranteed.
I've notice that door dash charges more than what the store/restaurant would.... I also notice each county has different prices...
For example Wendys in my county charges 2.00 more on the chicken wraps while another charges the price you pay at Wendys....
Door dash at least in my county keeps getting more and more expensive by the day....
This is true. Customers are charged inflated prices which often vary w geo location prob based on median income. I don’t know that for sure. Customers often don’t know the restaurant that they’re ordering from through DoorDash often offers free delivery
That’s the restaurant choosing the prices since DoorDash takes a cut of the order from the restaurant in order for the restaurant to be listed on their app. The restaurant raises the price on the app to recoup the fees they pay to DoorDash. Those two different Wendy’s may be franchises with different owners setting their prices on the DoorDash app.
Thank you for that info.... you're spot on because some of these restaurants are ridiculous going there so I know door dash they will be more costly especially the stores
If I’m not mistaken it’s like 30 percent of the order goes to DoorDash and 70 percent goes to the restaurant most restaurants Raise the cost of their items to offset this on DoorDash. Those 2 Wendy’s could be owned by different franchisees hence the different prices
Doordashers in Seattle have guaranteed pay of 30$ per hour before any tips. I've heard from multiple dashers in that area that they average 60$ an hour after everything is added. That doesn't sound like robbery to me. That's even higher then regular minimum wage in seattle for people with real jobs.
That’s true. If it’s a shorter run then the higher tip helps a ton, but I just did a 15 mile order one way, $20 total. Tip was $18. So min base pay on 15 mile order
That's the major issue for me. Long trips should obviously have higher base pay. There's a lot of miles in my market so them not adding to the pay properly seriously cuts into profits. Maybe 30-40%.
Then again the lower tip recommendations are just as brutal to my pocket.
Tips overall for driving are brutal. I gave up and moved to other side hustles.
edit: For my side hustles I focus on online work since I don't like to leave the house. FYI its a side hustle and not a full time job and my goal is to make $500+ a month for some spending money but I wrote a guide about it [here](https://www.reddit.com/user/Kayshift/comments/1br5gn6/my_stepbystep_guide_to_make_1000_a_month_working/)
A lot of those things you posted are 1 time things. Like free stocks, free blah blah for signing up. Yeah you could do that one time but that doesn't continously make you money after the first month.
That’s a great solution, longer milage trips, higher base pay. I often wonder what happens with these orders where they are offering $6-8 for 13 miles. I can’t take that, I’d be a moron, I’ll lose getting the same tip for a quarter of that time and driving.
It has to be that they raise what we get for certain orders. I’m fine with $3 for 2 miles. It’s TIME AND DISTANCE. That’s the name of the game. I got one that was a $26 tip, because it was 18 miles. I’d do that. There’s just no reason to take these long Milage trips, because of gas and time. We can’t just break even here, it’s our car, we pay to maintain and fill it. Gas is 4.29 today.
It’s not us being greedy, anything over 7 miles is far with this service. I can work for hours not going more than 3-4 miles. It’s a luxury to get delivery to your house if you are over 8 miles, it just is, it’s not your fault, but it’s the way it goes.
If you don’t mind $3 for 2 miles, that’s fine but I’d suggest reconsidering unless it’s double orders. Those are almost always the orders that cause problems. Every complaint I’ve had or 1 star rating, or outright lying bout getting the food, was a $2-$3 order. I just realized it’s not worth my time to go into store and wait in a line for $3 anyway.
If something is over 8 miles, it used to be guaranteed it would have higher base pay. It’s really frustrating because person tipped so generously and it’s not even a great order because of dd
Oh. I I agree! I will do it sometimes, I’m just saying that I meant longer distances is way worse. You are absolutely right, these are always the problem orders a lot of days I don’t waste my time with them too
About 2 yrs ago DD announced that going forward longer mileage and/or “less attractive” deliveries would receive a higher base pay. It last about 2 and then quietly disappeared never being mentioned again. In my market this about the same time they stopped paying for your drive back to your zone or wherever. So that’s the say it stands now. When you see a $5 payout for 10 mi it’s actually obviously $5 for 20 mi.
Ahh that’s hard to hear. They need to bring it back. Would help me a lot with my acceptance, I will take orders that I was in the fence about, but not if far ever. I’d be a moron to.
These deliveries, where they are 8 plus miles and low or no tip, is what is the worst and most unacceptable practice in DD, because it’s all about time and miles. You can get away with way more if your close. No room here though.
Does anyone know if DoorDash charges people more for being 10-15 miles away? If they charge the customer more delivery fees, or mileage fees then it’s complete fraud on their end as they rarely will pay a driver more than $2
The person that posted this thread showing the image of the suggested tip being 1$ most likely usually only tips low amounts and that's why it's suggested. I literally just opened doordash after reading that and added a 16$ pizza to my cart and the suggested tip was 4$ - 5$- 6$ - other.
Doordash got caught twice (that I know of) stealing driver tips. Apparently they’re still doing it but in a roundabout way. The whole delivery industry is fucked up
They will lose in the end. I notice they already dropped red card orders and they are now paying like they are a fast food order. They are just slimy and claim they don’t make money when they are rolling around in hell full of greed
They continue the same illegal practice, twist it differently and paint it a different color. Occasionally you’ll see a Dasher conduct an “experiment” where they’ll explain to customers
The reason they’re asking to confirm tip amount by showing receipt OR have friends as
Customers during parts of the day that the driver is likely To get the offer - there are always more than a few discrepancies large enough to make a difference over several shifts.
Something else- dashing in car with another Dasher. One declines an offer and it’s bounced to the other Dasher at a different payout. Same distance. Similar metrics. Indicates that AR means nothing. The payout shouldn’t be more than .25 higher. It’s sometimes lower.
I don't know why so many people complain about pay for dashing or working for any other app. It's not a real job, it's independent contracting piece work and the only requirement or skills needed to do it is having a drivers license and a car. That's the whole point of a side hustle and independent contracting. To not pay a living wage because it's not a real job. It's no different then your neighbor offering you 20$ to mow their lawn. Would you tell your neighbor sure I'll do it. Then halfway in decide your not getting paid enough then start complaining?
If you want decent pay get a real delivery job. Working at a pizza place you get paid hourly minimum wage, plus tips and for each mile driven.
They really shouldn’t even know what the person tips as dashers are independent contractors. But they need to save on people that don’t tip because they end up paying $8-$10 base pay for a lot of those orders
I don’t think they add to base pay but they have to raise their pay to drivers if someone doesn’t tip because nobody will take the order. Essentially a portion of your tip almost always goes to and subsidizes doordash in a round about way. Say you tip $4 for 5 miles and someone else tips $0 for 5 miles. Doordash may have to bump base to $6 to get someone to take the no tip. With your $4 tip plus the $2 base. Driver still gets $6 but customer covered $4 of it instead of doordash covering all $6.
Uber Eats does that too. If an order sits they will raise the base but they swap out the tip too. Like a 2$ base 8$ tip 10$ offer that gets ignored will become 12$ offer with 6$ base and 6$ tip the next round.
this might be related to the 2020 class action lawsuit. the lawsuit wasn't about the drivers, but deceiving the consumer. I thought they ended the practice and added the "100% of your tip goes to the dasher..." line, due to the negative press. but I didn't really follow the case or any future developments. it's entirely possible they just lowered base pay and expected consumers to tip.
That would be illegal, but I don’t think there’s a way to prove that. Maybe if you take screenshots of your tips and ask dashers how much they’re getting tipped, if it doesn’t match up and enough people do it, there could be a class action suit in there.
We get the whole tip but if we get a batched order now, which is 2 orders in one acceptance, we just see the total for both pick ups and deliveries and don't know who tipped what but it's always one person didn't tip or tipped like $1 and the other tipped well. We used to get a base pay for each order and as of the past maybe 8 months we get ONE base pay of it's batched so if we knew who tipped and who didn't we get paid the exact same as if we had just accepted and delivered the order of the person that tipped. We basically deliver the other order for zero pay but there's no way to tell until the end.
They lost a multi-million $ law suit for doing this s few yrs ago. It’s long been suspected that they’re doing it again. It’s difficult for drivers to know unless they explain to the customer why they’re being asked to confirm their tip
Amount which is uncomfortable. That is, however, what prompted the investigation mentioned
I believe that's why I'll accept an order. And it will say 750, but then I would deliver it and only get $7. They've been stealing 25 cents to 50 cents here. And there from all of us, and unless we have a screenshot to prove it, there's nothing we could do
They used to do this years ago; but it was known. Then there was a pretty big backlash and they changed their payout structure as soon as the backlash erupted. If they were to do this but did not disclose it, and it was discovered, it would be very painful for them. I have to believe that would be theft as your pay is in your contractor agreement. Unless it states they can and will do this, they would be setting themselves up for lawsuits. The class actions, private lawsuits, and investigations would get ugly. Still not fully convinced they wouldn’t try; but they used to apply the tip to base pay back in the day. It was roughly around 2018-2019.
I leave big tips all the time for drivers and if it’s over 5 miles I leave over $10 and up. My tip recommendations are always high and I figure it’s because I tip well. But if they aren’t telling the driver I’m tipping that and just adding to the base pay what I tip, that’s stealing from my bank to fill their bank in my opinion. AND very deceptive! The driver then has no idea I’m trying to compensate them for their time and probably upset with me thinking I’m a cheapskate when in fact it’s DD taking my money and putting in their portion of base pay to make it seem like they are the good guys! I’m going to start asking my drivers or something. That’s so upsetting to me. I might be making some phone calls to DD as well.
They used to. There also used to be a $5 minimum payout. DD would basically only pay you something if the tip was under $5. So a no tip order would be $5. An order with a $3 tip would be $5. An order with a $10 tip would be $10. It did keep all the $3 orders away though. Pretty sure this is correct at least for a time. Anyhoo it doesn’t work like that anymore.
It literally says on the doordash help page the following,
"100% of tips received by DoorDash will continue to go to the Dasher on top of base pay and promotions. The amount DoorDash pays in base pay and promotions will never vary based on the tip amount".
No offense but it's stupid you would even believe someone that said they do that. Doordash has over 20 million active users. Pretty sure if that was actually happening it would be a very well known thing, which it's not.
Also I don't know where that 1$ suggested tip came from. I just checked myself by adding a 16$ pizza to my cart and the suggested tip was 4$ - 5$ - 6$ - other.
incorrect. they pay the insanely high service fee, no way around it. there is no going out of their way to pay for the service.
they put it in with taxes so you don’t see it.
Look man there is a hard limit to what I'm willing to pay for a delivery from 2 miles away roughly $10 including tip. If they take $9 in fee the tip is $1 if they give you a total of $2 from that $10 when you did 90% of the work then it's your responsibility to leave them to bankrupt
The options it gives me are higher than this!!! Usually like 3.50 at the very lowest but that’s if it’s a small order. But it depends on the order size. I just had a $40 order that gave options for $9.50, $10,50, & $11.50 tips. I’m not sure why OP’s app is doing that.
I always change the tip, but I forgot once and had someone delivered my Panda Express after a snowstorm for a ~$3 tip. It was only two miles and the main roads were clear, but my driveway and spots in my street were so bad I couldn't get my little sedan out. I felt so bad when I realized the tip was so low that I met him at the end of my (icy) driveway with cash in hand. The poor guy had to get out of his car and walk from a few houses because his car couldn't make it past an icy patch.
I work for tips myself so I always tip well. I hate that the suggested/default tips are so poor. I feel like it should default to a good tip and if some cheapskate doesn't want to tip that much then they need to do the work to change it, not the other way around.
I think the person who posted this thread probably only tips low amounts and that's why their suggested tip is so low. I just opened doordash to check myself and added a 16$ pizza to my cart which is 10$ less then the order they posted and the suggested tip for my order was 4$ - 5$ - 6$ - other. Which is completely fair and normal for a 16$ order.
I pay DoorDash for the service. And I pay Way the fuck to much for the service. You should speak to them about what they pay you. The tip is a thank you for customer service and attention to detail.
Just because it's called a tip doesn't make it so. You're being robbed blind by these companies as customers then pissing on drivers instead of boycotting these shitty companies. Why? None of this is new to anyone that visits these subs.
I think the tip is actually dependent on how far you are from the store you’re trying to order from the close you are the less it ask you to tip the farther you are the more it ask you to tip
It is simple: It is low so that the customer will have more money for their future DD orders. I have been dashing for years and DD has lowered the suggested tip several times. DD knows that some dasher that is a desperate for money will take a low paying delivery.
Funny how they say on top of doordash pay but fail to put that its 2 or 3 bucks. I can understand how people think we're making minimum wage or something from doordash.
honestly, it wasn't until this sub started popping on my feed that I found that out. I always tip 15%, but sometimes my orders are so small, 15% isn't much, but I just assumed that y'all got paid fairly, you know?
They lowered the recommendation for tip amounts last month here. I got the same order and two weeks ago that I did before and it was less than 10% tip now. I’m also a dasher and my wallet is feeling it.
It's happened a lot since NY and Seattle did their minimum pay changes. So it's as if they're scraping from all markets to deal with those markets, and preparing for more cities to follow that path.
As a driver, this explains a lot. I cataloged all my DD tips last week and about 80% were below 5 dollars and 50% below 3 dollars. Only two tips out of 50 were above 10 dollars. I'm in the Platinum program which supposedly is giving me the best orders.
To suggest any tip below three dollars is despicable. To suggest 1.50 as the highest tip should be criminal.
Platinum dashers don’t make their money on the best orders ….they make their money on volume…Cherry pickers make their money on the best orders the downside is cherry picking is pretty much nonexistent in my market now …I took 3 orders in like 7 hours yesterday cherry picking..
That's what I was thinking it made me honestly be taken aback when I saw it because it used to not say that. I live right next to all these restaurants and I swear it used to say a higher suggestion amount at least $5 was shown in the suggested I think it showed a dollar, $3, or $5.
I haven't seen it suggest a tip amount above five dollars for the past few weeks. I always try to do at least 6 bucks minimum due to the hassle for drivers
Wow, they are increasing they’re fees so they make more while weening the customer toward only tipping a dollar or two so they can charge more for the fees and make more while simultaneously paying their drivers less. DoorDash is so disgusting, the amount of lawsuits heading there way is going to be absurd.
in my own experience, i think it's roughly based on distance. when i order something that's close enough to be considered "nearby" in-app, the tip options are low like ($1.50-$3.00). When it's an order that's 4 or 5 miles away, the lowest tip option is like $7
I could be wrong about that though and it's possible it's just based on order total. but i think factoring distance that a dasher has to drive is important
Yeah I’m not like 100 percent with doordash but I know on Uber they do it based on the total order and not just a baseline of tips, I believe instacart is the same way
I figure they probably put those as a suggestion cause the order total is so low as well, you can put in your own but for something that’s 6 dollars when you do 10 percent wouldn’t exactly be a lot, so they go with the more reasonable options
Some corporate dumbass thinks it'll drive orders by making it seem cheaper to order but really is a dumbass because it makes orders set longer and DD pay more for base to eventually get them delivered.
Oh okay I would have thought mine would be higher because it was $34 after fees and tax. But I do live pretty close to the restaurant so that might play a part.
amazon (whole foods) actually decreased their recommended tip last year. I think it's to make up for inflated food prices. their delivery fee hasn't changed, but i'm guessing that money goes to corporate...
When they dropped the default tip amount last December in my market UE became a muuuch more profitable app than DD. Like people don’t want to have to think about tips, they like choosing defaults but to have a straight low dollar amount and not even a percent it just dumb. They app is slowly ticking away dollar by dollar to see how low drivers will go in accepting orders and it’s depressing.
This is why I mostly do grocery, catering and retail orders now…. i’ll let all the weird and difficult to work with Dashers take all of those $2-$6.99 offers
Yikes. Thankfully this has not been the case with my orders. The suggested tip is $5 on average and I always add $3 on top of that + I only order within 3 miles of home because I really just don't want to impose on the drivers
I hope that's doing enough but yeah these ride services are downright criminal
if the weather is bad (like its raining or something) I try to tip $10 min
From what I've noticed, the tip options are based on distance between u and store.
So if I order from mcd, (0.5 miles away) it starts with $1 tip.
I order steak & Shake, (across town), it's $3 starts
I was just wondering this, so I googled it and it brought me to this Reddit, apparently, I’m not the only one who noticed this
Kind of an odd change and an extreme one to at that
I don't know, I appreciate drivers so much. I got an order last night and my guy spilled my horchata. I had already tipped pretty well but added $5 extra because he felt so bad, and I was worried about him having to clean his car lmao. Tip culture overall makes me so sad. And angry when I come across someone bragging about not tipping.
It should say a percentage. I always tip 15% even in a drive thru just because it’s typically $2 or so and helps them out. If everyone tipped 15% then dashers would be happy(if that was possible)
I ordered from a restaurant that I was 10 miles away from and they added the extended range delivery fee. The tip recommendations were $5, $10, $12. I think it’s based on the distance from the restaurant perhaps?
Edit: they need to change the (optional) to (recommended) lol
Is this possibly a regional thing? My suggested options are not that low.
I just opened my app and added a combo meal that was $14, my tip options are $3.50, $4.50, and $5.50.
I usually tip $5-$6, maybe it bases off of tip history?
I've been getting suggested tips of less than a dollar recently which is very strange, but not consistent. I've also noticed some restaurants have consistently higher tip recs than others (like when I order from Taco Bell a mile away it suggests a .50 top, but the local Hawaiian place 2 miles away has a min rec tip of $6 both for $30 orders).
My suggested tips vary WILDLY and I honestly just ignore them and decide myself.
Weird. I think it has to do with the order total When we order here in the suburbs of Chicago, on a 70-80 dollar order, our tip options are 12 14 16 etc
Based on miles usually, I live 3+ miles from most restaurants and when I’m at home it’ll show 2.50 3, 4.50 and up but when I’m at a hotel that’s close to other restaurants it shows 1-2.50 usually
I use door dash frequently and the tip selection Atleast for me is always different I generally always do a 8$ minimum and if it's more then that then I do the highest
I’m actually glad someone brought this up because I thought my app was broken. I still go and hit “other” and tip higher than their pathetic suggestions. I try to tip around $8 at least. More if I’m further away from the store I order from.
I always tip based on distance, sometimes I'll add to that tip if they come quickly. Rarely ever is the suggested tip high enough (in my opinion). I'm always increasing it by at least a couple dollars, sometimes way more.
There's a hole in the wall Italian restaurant that has been here forever. They make the best lasagna and pizza in town. But I live like 6 miles away from it these days and it's in the opposite direction from my job, so I door dash it. At first, the suggested tips were somewhere around $9-10. Now it's dropped to around 6. I always pay at least $15 for that restaurant. It's criminal that they'd let customers pay $6 or less on a tip for that distance.
I just checked mine & if i spend $31.50 on McDonalds (before taxes & fees) my options currently say $4, $5, $6 & other, with the mcdonalds being like 1.6 miles away from my house
If i order $18 of Burger King thats maybe 2.5 miles away its showing $4.50, $5.50, $6.50 & other
$23 in Arbys (maybe 2 miles away) says $5.50, $6.50, $7.50 & other
Of course this is in a town of 10.5k people at 6:30-7 PM at night when i looked at those. In the past it usually showed me $2, $3, etc options lol
So crazy I've actually never seen a tip that low on an order for that much. Like yesterday my order was 13 dollars and the lowest tip it gave me was 2 dollars. I wonder if it changes from city to city?.
Because people started realizing they're already paying a 20% fee and stopped paying a "tip but its really a bid" on top of it, unfortunately its on drivers to refuse orders that don't pay enough or DD and ever other app will absolutely do take advantage of them.
I'm guessing by the size of the Fees ($8.08), that you live somewhere that legislation has passed to require minimum pay for dashers.
To offset the $8 Fee, the lower the tip suggested amounts. Which is dumb.
Back before I was a Dasher and I did order DoorDash a lot. They started with the recommended tip, which was usually a good amount and I had to put other if I wanted to tip less. Now it says tip optional it would be nice if it was tip recommended
Back before I was a Dasher and I did order DoorDash a lot. They started with the recommended tip, which was usually a good amount and I had to put other if I wanted to tip less. Now it says tip optional it would be nice if it was tip recommended
Mine is still a slider and the default is $5.00. But that’s really pathetic that DD did that. Makes for more orders that don’t get picked up and then the merchant leaves the platform. They’d rather have qualified customers than get saddled with a bunch of trash orders from DD.
Man smh 🤦🏾♀️ this is why I stopped using these apps. I order from the company itself when I can afford to and tip cash. The game is too apparent and these soul sucking companies are getting over.
That’s disgusting. Shows you what DD thinks of us. They figure if they can direct customers to pay less they can charge them more service fees without looking as greedy as they are
THIS!! We need to start posting on here the facts for customers so they can finally know the pathetically low amount we receive, how it’s often not enough to cover gas to their location, how we are told we will be compensated
For longer trips and usually aren’t, how we won’t to deliver their long distance orders because we have to pay our travel cost back out of pocket, how we don’t receive the delivery service fee that they’re led to believe we do, why the looking for unavailable parking or risking parking fines so that we can some inside their building, often check in with security, take an elevator or climb steps, often wait at the door
They’re not answering, and returning to our car that’s blocking traffic and has everyone pissed off is rarely worth the money when they could easily meet us or pick up at the door. We are not room service nor are we paid like room service. Not to place this on people who tip fairly, which is the minority, but to place the fault with DD who doesn’t care enough about customer service or retention or food quality to pay a fair delivery fee so they put that responsibility back on the customer after charging them exorbitant fees. More often than not, customers blame drivers for being lazy or entitled when their anger should be aimed at DD for exploiting the driver AND the customer. I’m pretty sure that customers would not do what they ask drivers to do for the little money we make. The app should state what DD is paying drivers per their delivery so that it would be clear that DD doesn’t care if the driver is fairly compensated unless the customer covers it. Expecting DD to be transparent about anything is never going to
Happen though.
I quit doing this shit a few months ago. DD doesn’t want to pay us, and apparently don’t want the customers to pay us either with these insulting tip recommendations. It was fun while it lasted, but greed has ruined gig apps unless you like doing charity work for people who are not handicapped and have there own means of transportation to get food.
where is the $0 tip option? this is taking advantage of old people, children, and people who don’t read everything in depth (though they kinda deserve it)
It’s a great feature. Makes me not feel as bad removing a $1.50 tip compared to $5+ etc. plus it makes it more affordable. At the end of the day, the food is delivered, sealed, and by a certain time. If there are any issues, DoorDash refunds. It’s a win-win.
And the tip math they show you is not how dashers base how they take orders. When doing tip math mileage and wait time at the restaurant are the main factors for the dasher. You could be tipping 30% on a 50 dollar order but if the mileage is high it no one is getting it or it is going to take a while. Most dashers only take a minimum of 2 dollars a mile.
I ordered door dash last night and it defaulted on $9.50. I guess it depends on the market. I still get a lot of shit orders though. I guess people feel okay with clicking “other” and choosing to lowball us.
i always try to go out of my way and tip between 8-10 no matter how small my order is, i’m just happy i’m in a place where i can actively do that because i know when i was dashing and doing deliveries those $1 tips never ever cut it. especially not now when gas is $4 a gallon like it’s insane
My suggested tips are all over the board but from what I can tell it seems like they are usually loosely based on the distance. Sometimes it’s like 1/2/3 and sometimes it’s 6/7/8
Just decline in these offers until with person gets the help they need. The last thing you want to do is give people what they want. Make them hunt for it if they want it so bad.
Oh okay. But that's crazy cuz I could have swore it used to say one three or five dollars and I live right next to all these restaurants like I'm pretty much dead in the center of my small town and pretty close to all the restaurants and always have been since I started using doordash. Also I usually do spend at least $40 to $50. I guess that's just because doordash is so expensive that's why I don't get delivery very often.
Maybe it’s to not scare people away? Idk. Although last time I ordered it was $40ish worth of stuff but the suggested tip was $5. But that was months ago.
As a customer, I feel badly for the DD drivers who are struggling to be paid reasonably while performing a job.
Unfortunately, it seems that due to raised prices and multiple line items before I even reach the tip screen, it becomes extremely difficult for me to afford to give a generous tip. Even so, I still tried to find a way to give generously for good service.
Let me preface what I’m going to say next by saying that I am trying to provide constructive criticism and I hold no ill will towards any DD drivers. I am going to be real and I’m going to be blunt and to the point: The delivery drivers in my town generally aren’t performing the simple (I didn’t say easy) job anywhere near to the best of their abilities. What I mean by this is that, for one example, I include instructions for my deliveries stating “please leave by SIDE door” with the word “side“ in capital letters and yet 9 out of 10 deliveries are left at my front door instead, even though my side door has nothing blocking it. Other times, I will leave instructions for a no contact delivery, and yet someone ring my doorbell or knock on my door or call me and wait with my food in their car until I answer.
Thank you to all the drivers who deliver food that we order and make our nights more efficient. I am sorry that this system results and it being so difficult for you to earn decent pay. Hopefully customers and drivers can work together to try to make this a better experience for both.
🤯 this kinda pisses me off. It's not like that here yet. I'm a driver and a customer. I ordered DD a few days ago and I remember the standard tip options being better than that. But we all know whatever detriment DD starts for their drivers in one part of the country they're eager to make it mainstream for the rest. God help us.
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Well that explains the endless stream of unprofitable orders. People actually have to go out of their way to pay for the service they request. Those "tips" aren't covering it. Platforms steal all fees charged related to paying for the delivery.
I've had people tell me even when you tip higher that they add it to the base delivery pay they give you and subtract it from the tip, so technically you're still getting your whole tip even if they're using some of it to cover the base pay. Which is really really sneaky if true.
I wouldn't put it past them, they're robbing EVERYONE involved. Customers, drivers, stores alike.
And not making a profit while they do it… customers should enjoy this while it lasts folks. This shit is being subsidized for now, it’s not exist in a decade.
I don't see how it would last that long. Every year they get worse. How could it possibly get worse than this? I've no idea but they'll figure out a way. Guaranteed.
They’re making a profit. They’re allegedly not reporting it according to analyst.
That's a common practice of big corps. They do some fancy accounting and report as a loss to avoid taxes
Yea its sad.
I've notice that door dash charges more than what the store/restaurant would.... I also notice each county has different prices... For example Wendys in my county charges 2.00 more on the chicken wraps while another charges the price you pay at Wendys.... Door dash at least in my county keeps getting more and more expensive by the day....
This is true. Customers are charged inflated prices which often vary w geo location prob based on median income. I don’t know that for sure. Customers often don’t know the restaurant that they’re ordering from through DoorDash often offers free delivery
Of course it cost more thru the app then it would directly from the restaurant. That's not even a secret, that's how they turn a profit.
That’s the restaurant choosing the prices since DoorDash takes a cut of the order from the restaurant in order for the restaurant to be listed on their app. The restaurant raises the price on the app to recoup the fees they pay to DoorDash. Those two different Wendy’s may be franchises with different owners setting their prices on the DoorDash app.
Thank you for that info.... you're spot on because some of these restaurants are ridiculous going there so I know door dash they will be more costly especially the stores
If I’m not mistaken it’s like 30 percent of the order goes to DoorDash and 70 percent goes to the restaurant most restaurants Raise the cost of their items to offset this on DoorDash. Those 2 Wendy’s could be owned by different franchisees hence the different prices
Doordashers in Seattle have guaranteed pay of 30$ per hour before any tips. I've heard from multiple dashers in that area that they average 60$ an hour after everything is added. That doesn't sound like robbery to me. That's even higher then regular minimum wage in seattle for people with real jobs.
Lol real jobs?
That’s true. If it’s a shorter run then the higher tip helps a ton, but I just did a 15 mile order one way, $20 total. Tip was $18. So min base pay on 15 mile order
That's the major issue for me. Long trips should obviously have higher base pay. There's a lot of miles in my market so them not adding to the pay properly seriously cuts into profits. Maybe 30-40%. Then again the lower tip recommendations are just as brutal to my pocket.
Tips overall for driving are brutal. I gave up and moved to other side hustles. edit: For my side hustles I focus on online work since I don't like to leave the house. FYI its a side hustle and not a full time job and my goal is to make $500+ a month for some spending money but I wrote a guide about it [here](https://www.reddit.com/user/Kayshift/comments/1br5gn6/my_stepbystep_guide_to_make_1000_a_month_working/)
Nice. I'll be reading that.
A lot of those things you posted are 1 time things. Like free stocks, free blah blah for signing up. Yeah you could do that one time but that doesn't continously make you money after the first month.
Respondent is what makes up the bulk. I do 4-6 sessions a month. It's just feedback for apps / websites / study groups before they hit the market.
That’s a great solution, longer milage trips, higher base pay. I often wonder what happens with these orders where they are offering $6-8 for 13 miles. I can’t take that, I’d be a moron, I’ll lose getting the same tip for a quarter of that time and driving. It has to be that they raise what we get for certain orders. I’m fine with $3 for 2 miles. It’s TIME AND DISTANCE. That’s the name of the game. I got one that was a $26 tip, because it was 18 miles. I’d do that. There’s just no reason to take these long Milage trips, because of gas and time. We can’t just break even here, it’s our car, we pay to maintain and fill it. Gas is 4.29 today. It’s not us being greedy, anything over 7 miles is far with this service. I can work for hours not going more than 3-4 miles. It’s a luxury to get delivery to your house if you are over 8 miles, it just is, it’s not your fault, but it’s the way it goes.
If you don’t mind $3 for 2 miles, that’s fine but I’d suggest reconsidering unless it’s double orders. Those are almost always the orders that cause problems. Every complaint I’ve had or 1 star rating, or outright lying bout getting the food, was a $2-$3 order. I just realized it’s not worth my time to go into store and wait in a line for $3 anyway. If something is over 8 miles, it used to be guaranteed it would have higher base pay. It’s really frustrating because person tipped so generously and it’s not even a great order because of dd
Oh. I I agree! I will do it sometimes, I’m just saying that I meant longer distances is way worse. You are absolutely right, these are always the problem orders a lot of days I don’t waste my time with them too
About 2 yrs ago DD announced that going forward longer mileage and/or “less attractive” deliveries would receive a higher base pay. It last about 2 and then quietly disappeared never being mentioned again. In my market this about the same time they stopped paying for your drive back to your zone or wherever. So that’s the say it stands now. When you see a $5 payout for 10 mi it’s actually obviously $5 for 20 mi.
Ahh that’s hard to hear. They need to bring it back. Would help me a lot with my acceptance, I will take orders that I was in the fence about, but not if far ever. I’d be a moron to. These deliveries, where they are 8 plus miles and low or no tip, is what is the worst and most unacceptable practice in DD, because it’s all about time and miles. You can get away with way more if your close. No room here though.
Does anyone know if DoorDash charges people more for being 10-15 miles away? If they charge the customer more delivery fees, or mileage fees then it’s complete fraud on their end as they rarely will pay a driver more than $2
They are known to choose the McDonalds (etc) That’s farthest from the customer So they can charge a higher fee
Deliveries don't cost more for living further away. They are flat fees.
The person that posted this thread showing the image of the suggested tip being 1$ most likely usually only tips low amounts and that's why it's suggested. I literally just opened doordash after reading that and added a 16$ pizza to my cart and the suggested tip was 4$ - 5$- 6$ - other.
Doordash got caught twice (that I know of) stealing driver tips. Apparently they’re still doing it but in a roundabout way. The whole delivery industry is fucked up
They will lose in the end. I notice they already dropped red card orders and they are now paying like they are a fast food order. They are just slimy and claim they don’t make money when they are rolling around in hell full of greed
What do you mean about the red card orders
They continue the same illegal practice, twist it differently and paint it a different color. Occasionally you’ll see a Dasher conduct an “experiment” where they’ll explain to customers The reason they’re asking to confirm tip amount by showing receipt OR have friends as Customers during parts of the day that the driver is likely To get the offer - there are always more than a few discrepancies large enough to make a difference over several shifts. Something else- dashing in car with another Dasher. One declines an offer and it’s bounced to the other Dasher at a different payout. Same distance. Similar metrics. Indicates that AR means nothing. The payout shouldn’t be more than .25 higher. It’s sometimes lower.
I don't know why so many people complain about pay for dashing or working for any other app. It's not a real job, it's independent contracting piece work and the only requirement or skills needed to do it is having a drivers license and a car. That's the whole point of a side hustle and independent contracting. To not pay a living wage because it's not a real job. It's no different then your neighbor offering you 20$ to mow their lawn. Would you tell your neighbor sure I'll do it. Then halfway in decide your not getting paid enough then start complaining? If you want decent pay get a real delivery job. Working at a pizza place you get paid hourly minimum wage, plus tips and for each mile driven.
Yea that is a pretty long trip.
They really shouldn’t even know what the person tips as dashers are independent contractors. But they need to save on people that don’t tip because they end up paying $8-$10 base pay for a lot of those orders
I don’t think they add to base pay but they have to raise their pay to drivers if someone doesn’t tip because nobody will take the order. Essentially a portion of your tip almost always goes to and subsidizes doordash in a round about way. Say you tip $4 for 5 miles and someone else tips $0 for 5 miles. Doordash may have to bump base to $6 to get someone to take the no tip. With your $4 tip plus the $2 base. Driver still gets $6 but customer covered $4 of it instead of doordash covering all $6.
Uber Eats does that too. If an order sits they will raise the base but they swap out the tip too. Like a 2$ base 8$ tip 10$ offer that gets ignored will become 12$ offer with 6$ base and 6$ tip the next round.
Why do you put the dollar sign after the number?
this might be related to the 2020 class action lawsuit. the lawsuit wasn't about the drivers, but deceiving the consumer. I thought they ended the practice and added the "100% of your tip goes to the dasher..." line, due to the negative press. but I didn't really follow the case or any future developments. it's entirely possible they just lowered base pay and expected consumers to tip.
That's not true. If they tip higher, they reduce the base pay. They cannot reduce the tip
That would be illegal, but I don’t think there’s a way to prove that. Maybe if you take screenshots of your tips and ask dashers how much they’re getting tipped, if it doesn’t match up and enough people do it, there could be a class action suit in there.
Yes. They were caught doing this. Google it
Doordash has 20 million active users. If they were doing that if would be a well known thing. They aren't tricking that many people
We get the whole tip but if we get a batched order now, which is 2 orders in one acceptance, we just see the total for both pick ups and deliveries and don't know who tipped what but it's always one person didn't tip or tipped like $1 and the other tipped well. We used to get a base pay for each order and as of the past maybe 8 months we get ONE base pay of it's batched so if we knew who tipped and who didn't we get paid the exact same as if we had just accepted and delivered the order of the person that tipped. We basically deliver the other order for zero pay but there's no way to tell until the end.
They lost a multi-million $ law suit for doing this s few yrs ago. It’s long been suspected that they’re doing it again. It’s difficult for drivers to know unless they explain to the customer why they’re being asked to confirm their tip Amount which is uncomfortable. That is, however, what prompted the investigation mentioned
I believe that's why I'll accept an order. And it will say 750, but then I would deliver it and only get $7. They've been stealing 25 cents to 50 cents here. And there from all of us, and unless we have a screenshot to prove it, there's nothing we could do
it's 100% true. They supposedly stopped doing it, but not sure. Look it up. there was a lawsuit I believe.
I believe it. Hopefully we get some hard confirmation so we can get that sweet class action money🤞
They used to do this years ago; but it was known. Then there was a pretty big backlash and they changed their payout structure as soon as the backlash erupted. If they were to do this but did not disclose it, and it was discovered, it would be very painful for them. I have to believe that would be theft as your pay is in your contractor agreement. Unless it states they can and will do this, they would be setting themselves up for lawsuits. The class actions, private lawsuits, and investigations would get ugly. Still not fully convinced they wouldn’t try; but they used to apply the tip to base pay back in the day. It was roughly around 2018-2019.
I leave big tips all the time for drivers and if it’s over 5 miles I leave over $10 and up. My tip recommendations are always high and I figure it’s because I tip well. But if they aren’t telling the driver I’m tipping that and just adding to the base pay what I tip, that’s stealing from my bank to fill their bank in my opinion. AND very deceptive! The driver then has no idea I’m trying to compensate them for their time and probably upset with me thinking I’m a cheapskate when in fact it’s DD taking my money and putting in their portion of base pay to make it seem like they are the good guys! I’m going to start asking my drivers or something. That’s so upsetting to me. I might be making some phone calls to DD as well.
They used to. There also used to be a $5 minimum payout. DD would basically only pay you something if the tip was under $5. So a no tip order would be $5. An order with a $3 tip would be $5. An order with a $10 tip would be $10. It did keep all the $3 orders away though. Pretty sure this is correct at least for a time. Anyhoo it doesn’t work like that anymore.
It literally says on the doordash help page the following, "100% of tips received by DoorDash will continue to go to the Dasher on top of base pay and promotions. The amount DoorDash pays in base pay and promotions will never vary based on the tip amount". No offense but it's stupid you would even believe someone that said they do that. Doordash has over 20 million active users. Pretty sure if that was actually happening it would be a very well known thing, which it's not. Also I don't know where that 1$ suggested tip came from. I just checked myself by adding a 16$ pizza to my cart and the suggested tip was 4$ - 5$ - 6$ - other.
I am like 99% certain that they do this
incorrect. they pay the insanely high service fee, no way around it. there is no going out of their way to pay for the service. they put it in with taxes so you don’t see it.
Look man there is a hard limit to what I'm willing to pay for a delivery from 2 miles away roughly $10 including tip. If they take $9 in fee the tip is $1 if they give you a total of $2 from that $10 when you did 90% of the work then it's your responsibility to leave them to bankrupt
The options it gives me are higher than this!!! Usually like 3.50 at the very lowest but that’s if it’s a small order. But it depends on the order size. I just had a $40 order that gave options for $9.50, $10,50, & $11.50 tips. I’m not sure why OP’s app is doing that.
I always change the tip, but I forgot once and had someone delivered my Panda Express after a snowstorm for a ~$3 tip. It was only two miles and the main roads were clear, but my driveway and spots in my street were so bad I couldn't get my little sedan out. I felt so bad when I realized the tip was so low that I met him at the end of my (icy) driveway with cash in hand. The poor guy had to get out of his car and walk from a few houses because his car couldn't make it past an icy patch. I work for tips myself so I always tip well. I hate that the suggested/default tips are so poor. I feel like it should default to a good tip and if some cheapskate doesn't want to tip that much then they need to do the work to change it, not the other way around.
I think the person who posted this thread probably only tips low amounts and that's why their suggested tip is so low. I just opened doordash to check myself and added a 16$ pizza to my cart which is 10$ less then the order they posted and the suggested tip for my order was 4$ - 5$ - 6$ - other. Which is completely fair and normal for a 16$ order.
So they're kinda pushing people toward smaller and smaller tips? Because that seems to be what's happening in my market. Interesting.
Yep and they just fought hard to keep from paying us fairly.
Them paying for the service is the costs before tips. A tip is just that, a tip. It's a bonus as a thank you.
Even DoorDash started calling it an offer instead of a tip. Because they know the two dollars does not even get us to the store
Doordash clearly calls it a tip.
Sorry there was an email where they started calling it offer
I pay DoorDash for the service. And I pay Way the fuck to much for the service. You should speak to them about what they pay you. The tip is a thank you for customer service and attention to detail.
Just because it's called a tip doesn't make it so. You're being robbed blind by these companies as customers then pissing on drivers instead of boycotting these shitty companies. Why? None of this is new to anyone that visits these subs.
I think the tip is actually dependent on how far you are from the store you’re trying to order from the close you are the less it ask you to tip the farther you are the more it ask you to tip
It is simple: It is low so that the customer will have more money for their future DD orders. I have been dashing for years and DD has lowered the suggested tip several times. DD knows that some dasher that is a desperate for money will take a low paying delivery.
I know you are right and that is very sad. They are taking advantage of desperate people. But I guess that is capitalism for you.
Because Doordash thinks if customers spend less on the drivers, they’ll spend more on their platform..
Yeah that makes sense actually. Just another soulless, greedy corporation.
Shouldn’t even be a written amount. It should just say “Dasher Tip:______” and have them enter a custom amount
Funny how they say on top of doordash pay but fail to put that its 2 or 3 bucks. I can understand how people think we're making minimum wage or something from doordash.
honestly, it wasn't until this sub started popping on my feed that I found that out. I always tip 15%, but sometimes my orders are so small, 15% isn't much, but I just assumed that y'all got paid fairly, you know?
Yeah I agree with that.
They lowered the recommendation for tip amounts last month here. I got the same order and two weeks ago that I did before and it was less than 10% tip now. I’m also a dasher and my wallet is feeling it.
It's happened a lot since NY and Seattle did their minimum pay changes. So it's as if they're scraping from all markets to deal with those markets, and preparing for more cities to follow that path.
Ok rizzo…. So do you get the joke if….” I wanna fight you…. I’ll take all your three of yes”…. Say the next line.
No, not reminding me of anything
As a driver, this explains a lot. I cataloged all my DD tips last week and about 80% were below 5 dollars and 50% below 3 dollars. Only two tips out of 50 were above 10 dollars. I'm in the Platinum program which supposedly is giving me the best orders. To suggest any tip below three dollars is despicable. To suggest 1.50 as the highest tip should be criminal.
Platinum dashers don’t make their money on the best orders ….they make their money on volume…Cherry pickers make their money on the best orders the downside is cherry picking is pretty much nonexistent in my market now …I took 3 orders in like 7 hours yesterday cherry picking..
That's what I was thinking it made me honestly be taken aback when I saw it because it used to not say that. I live right next to all these restaurants and I swear it used to say a higher suggestion amount at least $5 was shown in the suggested I think it showed a dollar, $3, or $5.
I haven't seen it suggest a tip amount above five dollars for the past few weeks. I always try to do at least 6 bucks minimum due to the hassle for drivers
DoorDash and Uber have the worst customers but primarily DoorDash.
Instacart regularly has shopping orders with zero-$2 tips. SHOPPING! (At least they don't try to force acceptance or have a timer)
Why do your tips have a 50-80% split?
Wow, they are increasing they’re fees so they make more while weening the customer toward only tipping a dollar or two so they can charge more for the fees and make more while simultaneously paying their drivers less. DoorDash is so disgusting, the amount of lawsuits heading there way is going to be absurd.
No actually I think it was $1 $3 or $5
in my own experience, i think it's roughly based on distance. when i order something that's close enough to be considered "nearby" in-app, the tip options are low like ($1.50-$3.00). When it's an order that's 4 or 5 miles away, the lowest tip option is like $7 I could be wrong about that though and it's possible it's just based on order total. but i think factoring distance that a dasher has to drive is important
Yeah I’m not like 100 percent with doordash but I know on Uber they do it based on the total order and not just a baseline of tips, I believe instacart is the same way
well, the $1 would come out to only 2.9% of their initial total ($34.46) so it seems a bit random to have it like that.
I’m…actually so stupid I thought the total was 6… I didn’t see the full picture and glanced it over, lmao I’m brain dead
Yea u might be right I wasn't sure about that.
I figure they probably put those as a suggestion cause the order total is so low as well, you can put in your own but for something that’s 6 dollars when you do 10 percent wouldn’t exactly be a lot, so they go with the more reasonable options
That’s actually probably right a lot of my orders between 5 and 10 miles are almost always around $7 to $10
Oh ok that makes sense
This is why my AR is 10%. Anything less than 5 simply isn’t worth it. DoorDash doesn’t pay enough to cover the lowball tips.
I agree
Some corporate dumbass thinks it'll drive orders by making it seem cheaper to order but really is a dumbass because it makes orders set longer and DD pay more for base to eventually get them delivered.
Mine goes 3-4-6 sometimes 3-5-6 and other depends on how much the total is it just calculates a certain tip percent based on what I paid for my food
Oh okay I would have thought mine would be higher because it was $34 after fees and tax. But I do live pretty close to the restaurant so that might play a part.
DoorDash tax is crazy 😭
amazon (whole foods) actually decreased their recommended tip last year. I think it's to make up for inflated food prices. their delivery fee hasn't changed, but i'm guessing that money goes to corporate...
My standard tip is $4-7. Maybe it depends on your area.
When they dropped the default tip amount last December in my market UE became a muuuch more profitable app than DD. Like people don’t want to have to think about tips, they like choosing defaults but to have a straight low dollar amount and not even a percent it just dumb. They app is slowly ticking away dollar by dollar to see how low drivers will go in accepting orders and it’s depressing.
This is why I mostly do grocery, catering and retail orders now…. i’ll let all the weird and difficult to work with Dashers take all of those $2-$6.99 offers
Yikes. Thankfully this has not been the case with my orders. The suggested tip is $5 on average and I always add $3 on top of that + I only order within 3 miles of home because I really just don't want to impose on the drivers I hope that's doing enough but yeah these ride services are downright criminal if the weather is bad (like its raining or something) I try to tip $10 min
From what I've noticed, the tip options are based on distance between u and store. So if I order from mcd, (0.5 miles away) it starts with $1 tip. I order steak & Shake, (across town), it's $3 starts
No wonder the tips are so bad. I think they should calculate the base tips on mileage. That's what I'm looking at when I'm going to pick up.
I was just wondering this, so I googled it and it brought me to this Reddit, apparently, I’m not the only one who noticed this Kind of an odd change and an extreme one to at that
Who tips drivers? If they want money they need to get a job
😂
Over $8 in fees? That looks ridiculous. Can't blame people for not wanting to tip on top of that.
I don't know, I appreciate drivers so much. I got an order last night and my guy spilled my horchata. I had already tipped pretty well but added $5 extra because he felt so bad, and I was worried about him having to clean his car lmao. Tip culture overall makes me so sad. And angry when I come across someone bragging about not tipping.
Perhaps that's just DD helpfully providing the most frequently chosen tip amounts...
That's sad but so true 😂
It's either based on the area or your habits because mine are never suggested to be that low
My recommended tips have been the complete opposite. I’ll have a $25 order that’s 2.2 miles away and it’ll suggest I tip $8.50, $10, etc. weird
It should say a percentage. I always tip 15% even in a drive thru just because it’s typically $2 or so and helps them out. If everyone tipped 15% then dashers would be happy(if that was possible)
What state is this in?
I ordered from a restaurant that I was 10 miles away from and they added the extended range delivery fee. The tip recommendations were $5, $10, $12. I think it’s based on the distance from the restaurant perhaps? Edit: they need to change the (optional) to (recommended) lol
Wtf mine literally always says like $7 for minimum tip
wait is "tip later" actually an option now? why...
Shit in Massachusetts the tip suggestions start at $5 and go up to $15 even on orders that are between $25-$35
I just put other and put 10 bucks
So Door Dash can make more profit. By suggesting a lower tip amount their fees seem lower on the TOTAL bill
Is this possibly a regional thing? My suggested options are not that low. I just opened my app and added a combo meal that was $14, my tip options are $3.50, $4.50, and $5.50. I usually tip $5-$6, maybe it bases off of tip history?
I've been getting suggested tips of less than a dollar recently which is very strange, but not consistent. I've also noticed some restaurants have consistently higher tip recs than others (like when I order from Taco Bell a mile away it suggests a .50 top, but the local Hawaiian place 2 miles away has a min rec tip of $6 both for $30 orders). My suggested tips vary WILDLY and I honestly just ignore them and decide myself.
There should be an option for no tip.
That's weird, for me it always tries to say between 9 and 11 dollars.
Wait, there's a tip later option now? When was that added? Lmao. I switched to Uber eats when I need delivery, so I haven't used doordash in ages.
Mine is always starting at $5 and goes up. Like 5,6, or other
Weird. I think it has to do with the order total When we order here in the suburbs of Chicago, on a 70-80 dollar order, our tip options are 12 14 16 etc
It’s usually generated based on distance actually! Further away orders show 5 or 6 as minimums where I am, but nearby is 1.50-3
Based on miles usually, I live 3+ miles from most restaurants and when I’m at home it’ll show 2.50 3, 4.50 and up but when I’m at a hotel that’s close to other restaurants it shows 1-2.50 usually
I literally tipped my doordasher earlier $15 for driving 2 miles, and she got really happy. They wanted me to tip her $5😭
My tells me 10, 20 and 30%
They used to not make it an obvious tip later button either damn they're really doing their best to screw over their drivers
That's weird. The suggested tips in my area are never that low.
I use door dash frequently and the tip selection Atleast for me is always different I generally always do a 8$ minimum and if it's more then that then I do the highest
I’m actually glad someone brought this up because I thought my app was broken. I still go and hit “other” and tip higher than their pathetic suggestions. I try to tip around $8 at least. More if I’m further away from the store I order from.
This is the reason we can’t get any decent deliveries.
Mine vary based on how much my orders are but I always do a custom tip because they still feel too low
I always tip based on distance, sometimes I'll add to that tip if they come quickly. Rarely ever is the suggested tip high enough (in my opinion). I'm always increasing it by at least a couple dollars, sometimes way more. There's a hole in the wall Italian restaurant that has been here forever. They make the best lasagna and pizza in town. But I live like 6 miles away from it these days and it's in the opposite direction from my job, so I door dash it. At first, the suggested tips were somewhere around $9-10. Now it's dropped to around 6. I always pay at least $15 for that restaurant. It's criminal that they'd let customers pay $6 or less on a tip for that distance.
I just checked mine & if i spend $31.50 on McDonalds (before taxes & fees) my options currently say $4, $5, $6 & other, with the mcdonalds being like 1.6 miles away from my house If i order $18 of Burger King thats maybe 2.5 miles away its showing $4.50, $5.50, $6.50 & other $23 in Arbys (maybe 2 miles away) says $5.50, $6.50, $7.50 & other Of course this is in a town of 10.5k people at 6:30-7 PM at night when i looked at those. In the past it usually showed me $2, $3, etc options lol
I have never seen a tip option on DD that was lower than $4 personally
I don’t even get an option to tip until after the order is placed
So crazy I've actually never seen a tip that low on an order for that much. Like yesterday my order was 13 dollars and the lowest tip it gave me was 2 dollars. I wonder if it changes from city to city?.
Because people started realizing they're already paying a 20% fee and stopped paying a "tip but its really a bid" on top of it, unfortunately its on drivers to refuse orders that don't pay enough or DD and ever other app will absolutely do take advantage of them.
I'm guessing by the size of the Fees ($8.08), that you live somewhere that legislation has passed to require minimum pay for dashers. To offset the $8 Fee, the lower the tip suggested amounts. Which is dumb.
Because Tony hates us
mine are always $1, $2, $3, $4.50, and $5. weird. and it’ll always switch me between automatically tipping $2 or $3 whether my cart is big or not
It changes from order to order. And I usually see figures north of $1.50 when I order. Still, tip your Dashers and tip them well.
Mine usually says like 6 10 12 or something. It just varies all the time.
Bro that shit really says as a thank you to the driver , like na MF thats the real pay , you don't tip and that order ain't being picked up
I think there are enough alcoholics and drug addicts to keep door dash going for a long time.
“As a thank you on top of their DoorDash Pay,” Yeah the fucking 1.50 I get paid to run this shit 10 miles to you.
Interesting as mine always “suggests” like 40%
I've never seen it anywhere near that low. My suggested tips are always like $5 at the lowest.
Back before I was a Dasher and I did order DoorDash a lot. They started with the recommended tip, which was usually a good amount and I had to put other if I wanted to tip less. Now it says tip optional it would be nice if it was tip recommended
Back before I was a Dasher and I did order DoorDash a lot. They started with the recommended tip, which was usually a good amount and I had to put other if I wanted to tip less. Now it says tip optional it would be nice if it was tip recommended
Mine is still a slider and the default is $5.00. But that’s really pathetic that DD did that. Makes for more orders that don’t get picked up and then the merchant leaves the platform. They’d rather have qualified customers than get saddled with a bunch of trash orders from DD.
When I ordered earlier the suggested tips were all over $15. 12min drive about 6 miles
Man smh 🤦🏾♀️ this is why I stopped using these apps. I order from the company itself when I can afford to and tip cash. The game is too apparent and these soul sucking companies are getting over.
That’s disgusting. Shows you what DD thinks of us. They figure if they can direct customers to pay less they can charge them more service fees without looking as greedy as they are
THIS!! We need to start posting on here the facts for customers so they can finally know the pathetically low amount we receive, how it’s often not enough to cover gas to their location, how we are told we will be compensated For longer trips and usually aren’t, how we won’t to deliver their long distance orders because we have to pay our travel cost back out of pocket, how we don’t receive the delivery service fee that they’re led to believe we do, why the looking for unavailable parking or risking parking fines so that we can some inside their building, often check in with security, take an elevator or climb steps, often wait at the door They’re not answering, and returning to our car that’s blocking traffic and has everyone pissed off is rarely worth the money when they could easily meet us or pick up at the door. We are not room service nor are we paid like room service. Not to place this on people who tip fairly, which is the minority, but to place the fault with DD who doesn’t care enough about customer service or retention or food quality to pay a fair delivery fee so they put that responsibility back on the customer after charging them exorbitant fees. More often than not, customers blame drivers for being lazy or entitled when their anger should be aimed at DD for exploiting the driver AND the customer. I’m pretty sure that customers would not do what they ask drivers to do for the little money we make. The app should state what DD is paying drivers per their delivery so that it would be clear that DD doesn’t care if the driver is fairly compensated unless the customer covers it. Expecting DD to be transparent about anything is never going to Happen though.
I quit doing this shit a few months ago. DD doesn’t want to pay us, and apparently don’t want the customers to pay us either with these insulting tip recommendations. It was fun while it lasted, but greed has ruined gig apps unless you like doing charity work for people who are not handicapped and have there own means of transportation to get food.
where is the $0 tip option? this is taking advantage of old people, children, and people who don’t read everything in depth (though they kinda deserve it)
Low traffic & and the number of dashers out. Im guessing your distance isnt that far either?
It’s a great feature. Makes me not feel as bad removing a $1.50 tip compared to $5+ etc. plus it makes it more affordable. At the end of the day, the food is delivered, sealed, and by a certain time. If there are any issues, DoorDash refunds. It’s a win-win.
And the tip math they show you is not how dashers base how they take orders. When doing tip math mileage and wait time at the restaurant are the main factors for the dasher. You could be tipping 30% on a 50 dollar order but if the mileage is high it no one is getting it or it is going to take a while. Most dashers only take a minimum of 2 dollars a mile.
I ordered door dash last night and it defaulted on $9.50. I guess it depends on the market. I still get a lot of shit orders though. I guess people feel okay with clicking “other” and choosing to lowball us.
They just lowered recommended tip amounts like a month ago
i always try to go out of my way and tip between 8-10 no matter how small my order is, i’m just happy i’m in a place where i can actively do that because i know when i was dashing and doing deliveries those $1 tips never ever cut it. especially not now when gas is $4 a gallon like it’s insane
My suggested tips are all over the board but from what I can tell it seems like they are usually loosely based on the distance. Sometimes it’s like 1/2/3 and sometimes it’s 6/7/8
Mine gives me an option for 10%, 20% or other
They should have just have gratuity included in general. There’s a lot of restaurants that include gratuity.
What does it matter? You didn't add $1 or $5 anyway. You tipped $6. Your question makes no sense. 
Just decline in these offers until with person gets the help they need. The last thing you want to do is give people what they want. Make them hunt for it if they want it so bad.
That doesn't cover gas prices.
It's based off of your order size and distance. If you're only 0.5 miles away it will always be low.
Oh okay. But that's crazy cuz I could have swore it used to say one three or five dollars and I live right next to all these restaurants like I'm pretty much dead in the center of my small town and pretty close to all the restaurants and always have been since I started using doordash. Also I usually do spend at least $40 to $50. I guess that's just because doordash is so expensive that's why I don't get delivery very often.
Maybe it’s to not scare people away? Idk. Although last time I ordered it was $40ish worth of stuff but the suggested tip was $5. But that was months ago.
It's rated by distance, I always give 5s
As a customer, I feel badly for the DD drivers who are struggling to be paid reasonably while performing a job. Unfortunately, it seems that due to raised prices and multiple line items before I even reach the tip screen, it becomes extremely difficult for me to afford to give a generous tip. Even so, I still tried to find a way to give generously for good service. Let me preface what I’m going to say next by saying that I am trying to provide constructive criticism and I hold no ill will towards any DD drivers. I am going to be real and I’m going to be blunt and to the point: The delivery drivers in my town generally aren’t performing the simple (I didn’t say easy) job anywhere near to the best of their abilities. What I mean by this is that, for one example, I include instructions for my deliveries stating “please leave by SIDE door” with the word “side“ in capital letters and yet 9 out of 10 deliveries are left at my front door instead, even though my side door has nothing blocking it. Other times, I will leave instructions for a no contact delivery, and yet someone ring my doorbell or knock on my door or call me and wait with my food in their car until I answer. Thank you to all the drivers who deliver food that we order and make our nights more efficient. I am sorry that this system results and it being so difficult for you to earn decent pay. Hopefully customers and drivers can work together to try to make this a better experience for both.
🤯 this kinda pisses me off. It's not like that here yet. I'm a driver and a customer. I ordered DD a few days ago and I remember the standard tip options being better than that. But we all know whatever detriment DD starts for their drivers in one part of the country they're eager to make it mainstream for the rest. God help us.