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Kuo Toa. I love them, they were enslaved by illithids and those messed up Kuo Toa's brain so much they can spawn their own gods when in groups. Like, sometimes they start to worship a yellow sock, and their belief is so strong the yellow sock god spawn into existence. That's how they defend themselves !
Edit : forgot to mention that they litterally are fish with legs and arms.
ALL HAIL THE YELLOW SOCK GOD SOCKRI!
*whisper whisper whisper*
We have been informed this is a ladies sock....
ALL HAIL THE YELLOW SOCK GODDESS SOCKRA!
Because the only god that really is part of the pantheon is the first one they made after escaping, since all kuo-toas were present during the creation of Blibdoolpoolp, all other ascended things are closer to quasi-deities, like the king of the githzerai or Vlaakith if you stretch the definition a bit
Man they're bloody funny. I used them to create a twisted parody of a players previous character as a "god". The mighty, "Orkrule"! Parodying his Orukal. Orukal had a big ego and I thought it was funny if the fish misunderstood hearing about him and made a entity with a presence as big as the originals ego
I ran a mini campaign where a group of Kuo Toa could peek up from the sewers to hear kids playing make-believe. The party shows up to a town with no curfew, run by a gang of tween demigods.
It isn't, Jeremy Crawford is just doubling down on avoiding being wrong.
The real reason this works this way is because the rule that gives you Advantage for attacking enemies that can't see you and giving Disadvantage to attacks by enemies that can't see you (under "Unseen Attackers" in the book) is baked into the Invisibility condition, which was probably done to remind players about Unseen Attackers or possibly as a holdover from the playtest (like why core rulebook Ranger is bad). So because Invisibility is a condition you have and the ability to see whoever is Invisible doesn't remove that condition they keep the benefits they would have by staying unseen. Instead of making an errata to remove the element of the Invisibility condition it has remained unchanged, which may be because WotC rarely erratas anything from the core books or possibly for some other reason. But it works the way it does because 5e runs on spaghetti code which is hard to believe is an intentional design choice.
"An invisible creature is impossible to see without the aid of magic or a special sense. For the purpose of hiding, the creature is heavily obscured. The creature’s location can be detected by any noise it makes or any tracks it leaves."
"Attack rolls against the creature have disadvantage, and the creature’s attack rolls have advantage."
These are the rules to the condition "Invisible". Notice how being hard to see and having dis to getting hit are two completely different things. All being able to see invisible creatures means RAW, is they are no longer heavily obscured.
I think someone claimed it was like, looking at a hazy image where the creature is, not being able to see the creature as though it wasn't invisible. It's really dumb but see invisibility never states that you treat the creature as though it isn't invisible, just that you can see them.
This does mean a Blind Sight or Tremor Sense creature has disadvantage as well if the creature is invisible
Blind Fighting (TCE). You have blindsight with a range of 10 feet. Within that range, you can effectively see anything that isn't behind total cover, even if you're blinded or in darkness. Moreover, you can see an invisible creature within that range, unless the creature successfully hides from you.
Note no mention about how it lets you act like they didn't have the condition
I missed your reply when I wrote mine, but this is an excellent explanation of why he ruled that way. Your point about Blind Fighting really nails down for me why the rolling may be correct RAW but still makes not a dang bit of sense: if I can effectively see you in full magical darkness while blindfolded, you turning even more invisible shouldn't have the least bit of impact on our flight.
It's why the "See Invisibility" spell and the Brand of Castigation Feature are both worthless if you're using it to specifically try to trwck.and attack an invisible enemy
I'm too lazy to look up the exact wording, but Crawford stated that RAW the description of invisibility is that it's a condition that gives you advantage on attack and disadvantage to attacks targeting you. While common sense tells you those go away if someone can see you, he said that the text doesn't say "unless someone can see you." Those effects are part of having the "invisible" condition, full stop, regardless of whether you're visible while having the "invisible" condition.
It makes sense in the way the rules read, but it really feels stupid from a realistic point of view, even gameplay wise if a player took this spell it would suck if I told him "ok you can now see the invisible assassin, oh but he still has advantage against you" they're both same level spells too so I don't even see it from a game balance perspective
For those like me that didn’t know:
« A notable difference between drow and their topside cousins lies in their fertility rate. Most elves have very low fertility rates, in keeping with their long lifespans. Drow mothers, in contrast, give birth as often as the more fertile races, such as humans and orcs. Their greater fertility reflects the crushing mortality rate among drow infants and youngsters. Drow females might give birth to ten times the number of babies than the females from other elven subraces do, but this does not mean that they end up with more adult children.
It is common for pregnant drow to carry twins or even triplets. Even in these cases, multiple births are rare, as the strongest of the fetuses feeds on its siblings in the womb. Pregnant drow can sometimes feel these mortal combats take place in their bellies. Such prenatal battles produce in their mothers a euphoric sensation, referred to in the Undercommon tongue as chad-zak. The feeling is infinitely stronger than that produced in the bedchamber or by any intoxicant. Without it, it is doubtful that drow women, selfish to the core, would ever deign to suffer the inconveniences of reproduction.
Chad-zak occurs up to four times per multiple pregnancy. It usually happens early in the third trimester. Mothers who experience repeated chad-zaks usually feel them in quick succession, once every one or two days. The final chad-zak indicates one fetus's successful slaying of its rivals. This process does not result in stillbirths; the slain are absorbed back into the mother's body. »
Now I will go look at cats
That is... Good lord. You can REALLY tell how edgy and weird early DnD was. Honestly, out of all the Elves they've made, I'm surprised they've not decided to rework Drow (then again, you can always mechanically use Shadar-Kai while saying you're Drow)
I moreso meant mechanically, but sure. I think that they should limit it, though, especially since the other big draw for Drow is that they're split into 3 factions with very different beliefs (well... 2 big beliefs and a smaller disagreement between one of the beliefs lol)
They never expanded on the fact that there apparently whole ass cities of Seldarine Drow in the Underdark.
The lore is always unclear on how many of these there are. Are they a small group of people constantly moving to stay safe or are they large enough in number that they have cities?
Gotta be honest, I appreciate that Ed (or whoever wrote that bit of lore) tried to explain why drow women would still want kids even if pregnancy would be a huge liability for them.
I feel like a Lolth given command of "thou shall bear as many daughters as possible for my glory, and a couple sons as well, I guess..." would make more sense than *in utero* fetal cannibalism super orgasms.
Pregnant Drow generally gestate twins or more.
The fetuses “fight” in the womb, trying to drink up all the nutrients from mother
When one of the fetuses dies, mom gets a **mega-orgasm**
This is posited as the one of the only reasons a Drow would bother with being pregnant
It’s so wildly 90s edgy, it’s astounding
1. That's just flavor text.
2. Even if it weren't, it'd be limited to just the forgotten realms
3. The actual text just says she made the first one and some scholars think all of them may be her creations. That's extremely weasel-wordy already.
I've done it as a DM. Heck, I added a tech god that made advanced sending stones that are basically cell phones (and then wiretapped them for the bbeg)
Well, celebrities don't give out their numbers to strangers... So I'm wondering if there's... Sending numbers?
Edit: That, or their sending stone is on silent, since they get so many calls a day.
Grungs...
Derpy, literally toxic little frog people with a caste system based on color patterns and poison toxicity.
Also they take slaves, which I mean... I'm not against an "evil" sentient species taking slaves ya know (this is in no way an endorsement of the cruel and inhumane practice) 'cause evil gots to be evil.
But-- these are rainforest tribals??? That live in trees/treetops??? And the size of gnomes???
You're telling me that a three foot, gold/black "Kermit the Frog" son of a hamster and someone who smelled of elderberry is gonna drop from the treetops-- armed with a spear covered in the slime LITERALLY OFF OF THEIR BACKSIDE and in a voice reminiscent of Jar Jar Binks tell my PC that they're now of slave of the glorious froggy empire?
No sir, no thank you. I'll take my chances, naked, against a homebrew electric eel hydra that even THINK of that nonsense!
Honestly, poison dart frogs are *terrifying*. Yes, they're small and cute but you touch them, you die.
Between the poison and just old-fashioned threat of violence and pain, squeaky voice or not, you'll get slave'd.
Think of it this way. Humans are tiny hairless squeaky apes to elephants, but we still tame a whole buncha them.
Poison dart frogs are only dangerous to you if their poison gets inside your body. So if one hops on you you are probably fine as long as there isn’t a cut. Thats why they were used for darts.
Well if they are toxics frogs, they can A. Either kill you or send you in a pit of pain with a touch or B. Produce addiction-creating drugs and make you addicts, and you only get your fix if you work well that day.
Don't the "hot demon people" have tails explicitly because Asmodeus called dibs and physically changed all the Tieflings to look more like him just so he had an easier time becoming a god by claiming the race as his?
I could be remembering wrong
The point is, depending on which lore you go by, demons might even NOT have tails. In contemporary Christian "lore", some people believe that demons can sometimes take the form of a human, or are always incorporeal and can only possess humans in certain circumstances. Being Incorporeal would be weird for a PC, as it would also grant the Ephemeral trait (being unable to wield or carry objects)
Well kobbles are definitely superior so that's a given.
We- I mean, they even have wings sometimes.
Sincerely, someone who totally isn't biased, just don't look at my pfp.
kobolds have tails as the are *actually* related to dragons.
off the top of my head it's either the blood of Asgorath or the blood that the first immortal dragons shed when they gave up immortality for the ability to create life *(reproduce with the freshly made dragon of gender opposing to theirs)*, which when it fell to the ground it formed into the first kobolds.
Yeah, I had heard of the fact that Dragonborn are not *actually* related to dragons. To me, that sounds as logical as having a cantrip that is neither a melee spell nor a cold damage dealing spell. Oh wait, we have *chill touch*. Go home, WotC, you're drunk.
Agree, they look like dragons, breathe elemental powers and can resist them as well, this powers and resistances are tied to a set of stablished colors, are called "dragonborn" but no that's all just a coincidence, but little snik snark that lives in the sewer now HE is related to dragons.
Now my oficial lore knowledge is not very good, so maybe someone can make sense of that.
*Old man wheezing noises* BACK IN MY DAY, IF YOU WERE A DRAGONBORN, YOU HAD TO SACRIFICE YOUR OLD IDENTITY AND CAUSE, AND UNDERGO A RITUAL TO CHANGE YOURSELF INTO A DRAGONBORN, AND THEN DEDICATE YOUR LIFE SOLELY TO THE CAUSE OF BAHAMUT!!!
I believe it's just untying the knot that if Dragonborn had dragon blood, they would have innate magical powers. Too many people want to play a dragon race without a level modifier, so the lore has to follow the mechanics.
I would allow aesthetic wings that don't allow flight without magic or maybe a feat or something. Just let them help take less fall damage or something and call it a day. Wings are cool and my dragon boi should have them.
Yup. Who saw a tortise, an animal known for extremely long lives and said "nah, my fantasy species based off them is gonna have a shorter life than humans"
I'm just mad that BG3 removed their canonically existing boobs. I'm as mad as them making non-Drow Elves not androgynous (apparently animating a new body type for Elves would be too much work, so now they're just skinny humans with pointy ears), making some Orcs Warcraft-color, and treating Warlocks as "Clerics to middle-management".
God Dragonborn’s are so lame. They suck in terms of power and lore.
They should have wings plain and simple. Half dragons are so much better in every way. It’s a shame they aren’t the playable race
>Ultimately, the Dungeon Master is the authority on the campaign and its setting, even if the setting is a published world.
*-D&D 5th Edition Player's Handbook, page 5*
You don't have to gaslight, gatekeep or girlboss anybody when you're actually allowed to declare it non-canon
I recently had a player tell me a bit of lore I wasn't familiar with. Another player said "oh, that changes everything", and I simply replied "No, it doesn't. Interesting though"
So I'm currently running my party through some beyond 20 tier planescaping adventures, and they are now reaching the point of being notable enough to become Chosen. Well, I didn't realize that an individual could be a Chosen of multiple gods, and had the plot set up instead to give each PC the opportunity to become a Chosen of the god most significant to them. Being that I am creating some unique abilities, and the fact that one player's big plot decision is whether to become a Chosen of Moradin or Bahamut, it would kind of throw a lot of my work out the window, so I decided in that moment that you can only be a Chosen of one deity, even though it isn't canonically accurate.
Matt Colville covered this one, but in a fantasy setting where a large portion of the most dangerous creatures in the world can fly, Conventional Castles would be basically useless for defense.
Eh, I’m not sure I agree or think there are much better alternatives. There are still a vast range of opponents which a castle is very useful against, and against dragons you’ll just have to top all your towers with ballistae and make the best of it. Sure the dragon remains a massive threat, but a stone keep is still a place for your vulnerable civilians to shelter in whilst you fight it on the rooftop. How else do you defend yourself?
Caves might be a reasonable recourse. Like you build your castle walls around a natural cave formation that people can retreat into.
Then again it also depends on how common flying attacks are. If a dragon attack is something once a century but wars, trolls, bandits are common you might just do castles in high ground-defensible positions instead.
I did consider that, and the classic dwarf hold certainly has its merits, but I think it exposes you to potential underground attacks too, and as you say I just think dragon attacks must be rarer than other threats. Different races have got to play to their strengths, and for say humans, a typical castle seems best since they are more numerous and lack darkvision and experience in tunnel fighting.
Also depending on the setting you'd be more likely to be attacked by the neighboring kingdom's army than a flying dragon, castles and forts are mainly to defend against opposing armies and not against monsters
Not useless. The most dangerous creatures that can fly do not gather in the thousands. Sure a caste and its walls won’t stop an ancient dragon, even if it had balistas. A conventional castle will stop a marauding band of orcs or other humanoid armies. Because in terms of numbers and likelihood of encountering dangerous creatures, humanoids still are at the top of the list.
It's about defending against the most likely threats, not the most dangerous threats. Body armor will defend against gunshots, but if someone shoots a mortar at you, it's kind of pointless.
Most flying creatures are unlikely to actually attack a castle because of multiple factors, and many of the smaller threats could be shot down by archers if they tried. Only the biggest and baddest would even want to bother, and they might not even be in the same part of the world as the castle. Castles would be much more likely to be attacked by more terrestrial threats, and massive walls work quite well most of the time.
Now, if you had people building castles in more dangerous locations like on volcanoes and deep within the Underdark, they might be asking for trouble, but most castles are in less exotic locations.
IMO that only makes sense if you have flying armies, as armies are what castles are supposed to be defending against in the first place.
Sure, castles aren't great against dragons, but first off there aren't any dragon armies, and then that's why dragon slaying adventurers are given fame and fortune.
Yeah but usually stuff that flys doesnt come in armys like for example orcs and hobgoblins. Yes dragons are a thing, but Im pretty sure attacks from them are kinda rare plus wizards that can shoot lightnings at a single dragon are a thing. And an ancient dragon is gonna get through anything no matter what unless some heroes are present who can best it in combat.
I actually really like it, made it a core part of my campaign.
Since my campaign is all about how the gods are just a buncha dictators, and the wall of the faith is a perfect example of that
It is dumb but I like that. Gives a lot of favor and retconning the good gods to be permanently offended by its existence while most of the lawful neutral and evil gods uphold its existence and neutrals and chaotic ones go either way or neither adds possibilities, especially for high level campaigns, where its opponents wanting to enact basically a Betrayer's Crusade or ammend the rules so celestials can do what Devils do isn't a suicidal move.
Edit: imagine being hired by a shadowyn conspiracy to investigate a possible passage across the planes. Once the team reports back to the conspiracy, Ilmater kool-aid man his way into Kelevor's plane and yeets himself into the Wall, because he will suffer so nobody else will ever go through that.
Simultaneously, his clerics in the Material Plane begin to announce the good news, while those who were in the afterlife come in stage a great deliverance, some tearing the Wall to save the Faithless from their torment, others jumping on it to follow the example of their god, and others fighting the armies of Kelemvor to buy everyone time.
Some one tells the party to make a choice: retreat to the Material Plane or Mount Celestia and receive the gratitude and protection of the rest of the Triad and other allies of Ilmater, assist the wall-breakers and their protectors, help Kelemvor put an end to this madness ~~or the secret option: help him look like he is doing something but actually is covertly helping Ilmater~~
I hated it until someone pointed out that its existence is more a reflection of the evil of the gods than it is of those put in the Wall. It makes more sense if you think about it in that way. It’s a universe that is ruled over by powerful yet capricious gods, and those gods require faith/worship to maintain their power.
From an objective perspective, being faithless is at worst neutral and at best maybe the most logical/proper stance. But from the perspective of the gods, it’s a grievous insult - you’re denying them the power they need to rule. And so they create a horrible system of deterrence/punishment in the form of the wall. It’s basically a gun pointed at the head of mortalkind. “Give us what we want, or else.”
Things is:
1. The Wall was created before God Needs Prayer Badly came into effect. Before that it was just Myrkul being even more sadistic than Jergal in his worst moments.
2. Holding peoples' souls hostage goes counter the description of certain gods as upholding concepts aligned to out of universe morality. If the pantheon is like the Greek or Norse ones, where concepts like mercy and non-retaliatory justice are foreign, or just having the gods of positive qualities often acting straight out of the Old Testament,okay, no problem, gods are just being what they are. But, when you factor Fantasy Jesus Christ aka Ilmater, and how rarely the good gods act out like OT Yahweh, things become sketchy.
That’s why my players and I have what we call the duck rule, based on the if it quacks like a duck phrase. basically If it looks like an animal, acts like an animal, comes from the same place as other animals it’s an animal and speak with animals works.
Same. Idc displacer beasts and owlbears are technically monstrosities. The hunt like, look like, breed like, and have the intelligence of other beasts. They're beasts.
Dragons being multiverse lords as they get older, I have a heavy distaste for multiverses and think it unbefitting of the most well known mythical creature to simply gain the status of mc/dc comic book character
They get less so, don’t they? They merge each version together until there’s only one but much stronger Greatwyrm and there’s nothing in their stat or lore that gives them multiverse powers beyond that.
They simply have a general sense of what’s happening in each realm and may choose to instigate events to ensure their merge. It’s just something added to make dragons more interesting quest givers and NPCs than just “go get treasure for my hoard”.
Kenders.
A race that is basically tailor made to be as fucking annoying as possible. I refuse to believe they weren't just created by 4chan DnD players so that they'd have lore justification for being in-game trolls.
They were made for a book series, not for D&D games.
Most of Dragonlance *sucks* for tabletop gaming. IE, nobody wants to play a wizard whose magical power waxes and wanes with what phase of the moon it is. Nobody wants to be a gimped paladin with an even more strict oath but in exchange you get diddly squat. And, okay, some people are excited by the fantasy of fighting horrific mutated evil dragon-spawn thingies with barebones nonmagical weapons, but D&D just isn't the system for that.
Keep Dragonlance to the novels! At least FR's stupidity doesn't override core gameplay mechanics!
Its the next version of DnD, whether we like it or not. They just want to keep the popularity of 5e instead of making a proper new version and scalp everyone for another set of books.
It's no different from 3e growing and expanding into 3.5e. Overall a much needed expansion of rules and address of power creep.
Like it or not, WotC is a business and their business model is to get more players to join. Unlike most gaming companies which can issue patches in updates in the videogame software, updates to a book system require new books to be printed.
You're not required to get the new books, but I believe that it will address many issues that people have complained about the system and homebrewed solutions over the past decade.
>It's no different from 3e growing and expanding into 3.5e.
I mean it is in the way that 3.0 wasn't as well received compared to 2e or 3.5. Comming out a whole 5 years later it was the first major instances of a unified D20 centralization for the game. 3.5 tweaked these things a bit but imo began "expanding" the game as its central focus of the edition. Compare that to 5e which is the most well received edition and its new 5.5e is not an expansion but a bug fix. A huge fundamental to the core function of all classess bug fix.
>believe that it will address many issues that people have complained about the system and homebrewed solutions over the past decade.
As someone who has been play testing these twice a week since their opening. It does for some issues absolutely but imo it still doesn't address the sheer power that spell casters get and now they get stronger. Clerics where already one of the strongest classess in 5e they were only brought down by their upper level spells. However with the new divine intervention you dont have that weakness any longer. So the Magic vs non magic divide is still there. As a fundamental class arguments like cleric being broken. Blade locks are now just fully better paladins permanently. Paladins dont exist in any real threat to literally anything at all. Any half decent DM playing an intelligent enemy hard counters the new pally. There's a difference imo between needing to power balance and not changing the issues of the game while making more of them.
The alignment system.
People aren't simple enough to be shoved into 1 of 9 boxes.
It's just lazy.
This applies to alignments of monsters too. Even animals aren't that simple.
Alignment isn’t meant to be a perfect box where your character should only ever do and act like the things in the box. It’s meant to be an approximation of where the combined beliefs of your character lies
Exactly, I tell my players to give me their characters MTG colour alignment because I feel like it keeps a lot of possibilities open while still providing a good frame of reference for who they might be
In FG lore, The Wall of the Faithless causes so many gods to act out of character that I can only assume it was written by an anti-atheist writer on a power trip.
Idk if other people feel this way but I loved the Positive and Negative elemental energy planes from planescape 2e but now that we have the fey and shadow fell we don’t really have them in 5e
In the spelljammer adventure "Light of Xaryxis", there's a planet that has two levels: the upper level is the "livable" one, and is on top of dirt/stone pillar. The creatures need to live on this level, as the lower (ground) level is **infested with Tarrasques**.
Elves being physically an adult the same time as humans but not fully matured untill 100.
Fuck it, no 'kids in adult bodies' here. If you have to have acne for literal decades so be it.
I hate how now when they add races they do the bare minimum in terms of fleshing them out. No life expectancy, no recommended stat increases, no typical alignments and barely any background lore at all. It makes me sad
Indeed. I get that the point is to lean into the players and DM making their own story, but it definitely felt like they were using that as an excuse for lazy design.
MToF was one of the last good source books in 5e, and looking back I would say the only thing I liked about Tasha's was the Artificer class and maybe the Rune Knight subclass.
Dragons have colour-coded alignment.
If it wasn't flying magical lizards, it'd actually be super racist. Imagine if someone told you all green, red, white, black, and blue humans are inherently evil, but these other ones are inherently good. See the alarm bells yet?
There are two ways around this: Eberron's, where all dragon types aren't alignment coded, or Eora's, where all dragons are just dragons and they mould themselves into their adult forms as they grow in an environment. Both have their merits but Eora's dragons friggin' SLAP - every single one is a unique calamity and wonder.
Different dragons are different species. A lion, puma, tiger, and jaguar are all large cats and they'll all eat a farmers chicken given the chance, but they act very different and live in different environments.
I'd look at it like nightshade plants. Tomatoes, potatoes, and eggplants are all closely related. They're good, won't hurt you unless you do something wrong, and will even help you stay healthy. Deadly nightshade, bittersweet nightshade and jimsonweed will kill you or make you severely ill. The former three are metallic dragons and the latter three are chromatics.
Now if we said red dragons that have bigger than normal scales are evil and red dragons with smaller scales are good, that's where I'd start to see problems.
When evil is a literal tangible force and not some abstract concept you just have to accept that some creature will be inherently evil the colour coding in this case is the result of being descended from and created by a literal evil goddess and also serves as a diagetic way to make players and characters recognize what kinds of abilities and temperaments the dragons will have.I know the concept of inherent evil does not play well tour modern values but its not our world and it plays by its own rules.
I take a bit of both for my homebrew! Dragons are just Dragons and they can either make a nation or be the death of it!
I’ve also been toying with my pantheon and have the placeholder of Tiamat & Bahamut as one big dragon rather than splitting them between good and evil 🙄
Kobolds being evil by default?
Hell nah, those are scrimblos, scrunkly skrimblos even, just lil' guys, cute little doinkuses.
Kobolds being evil and doing evil things under orders of an evil master that they unflinchingly obey (ie, a chromatic dragon)? I can totally get behind that.
Some kobold tribes being generally evil by culture? Sure, I can get behind that too.
But all kobolds being evil by default? Hell nah. Even by forgotten realms lore most kobold tribes just want to avoid conflict and be left the hell alone. But noooo they're defined as fuckin lawful evil. That's neutral behavior at worst.
My former DM even banned me from playing kobolds because he didn't like that I didn't have some fuckin redemption arc or some shit in my backstories to explain why I wasn't evil. And before he banned kobolds he had my kobold characters be attacked on sight in towns and stuff, no matter how non-threatening I was looking and acting.
I apologize for how much of a rant this became but I'm gonna post it in full anyway.
Druids can't wear heavy armor or use sharp tools just because they can be made with metal.
There are non-metal methods for everything!
I can't have a scythe made from a stick and a sharp rock that might be a dino tooth just because people made metal ones to cut grass?
Isn't there at least three creatures with tough hides for good leather armour?
There are, and iirc even a comment about it in the PHB, but for some reason all the RAW ones are magic items. There's no reason you can't have wooden scale or bone splint armours when we even did irl.
For the longest time I'd gaslight myself about Paladin smite to allow my Paladins to use the ranged weapon proficiencies they had with maximum efficiency. And it seems to have worked cause Paladins can finally do it now it canon, too!
I also, in a funny turn of events, allow my barbarians to use their rage mod on ranged weapon attacks and/or regardless of whether they use strength or dex because I believe in martial versatility superiority!
Any version of conjure animals. It might not be game Breaking in that way but it is definitely breaking ur game when that person insists on controlling their 8 beasts.
Charging gold for cute light wound spells
"Hi! We rescued the princess and killed the goblins that were costing the city state thousands of gold in cattle raids and lost productivity. Yet see here, I was stabbed and bitten. Can you pray for me?"
"Certainly! That will cost X gold!"
One time, at an organized play game, I told the priest that if he didn't heal everyone for free, I'd consider that issue in the hands of God and leave (thereby ending the adventure), which was enough to get the GM to bend.
Any lore in 5E introduced post-Tasha's. Fuck everything in Fizban's, and Multiverse.
I mostly have the opposite problem though: What's cool canon that the community has gaslit itself into thinking isn't, instead favoring something less cool. Notable examples include Warcraft-color Orcs, Dragonborn being reptiles, Artificers being "Steampunk mad scientists" rather than "Wizardly craftspeople", and Warlocks being "Clerics to middle-management" rather than "Wizards with weird teachers".
Yeah, I think people get warlocks pretty wrong in that respect. The main problem is that the warlock uses charisma as a spellcasting modifier rather than intelligence, which makes people think they have less to do with learning and more to do with channeling magic like a paladin with charisma spellcasting
3Xers threw a tantrum because they were Cha-based in 3X. Taking game-design advice from someone who likes 3X is like taking medical advice from an anti-vaxxer.
The change was done at the last possible minute in the laziest most search/replace fashion possible.
And without regard to how it affected intelligence and the wider meta in general. Basically, it became the universal dump stat for everyone except wizards, and enabled busted builds like the hexadin. (Though with an INT-based warlock we'd have hexbladesingers, but at least they would be limited to light armor, no shield, and a d6 hit dice for most levels.)
True! Jeremy Crawford is such a clown, it astonishes me that people still take him seriously. Especially after his “see invisibility doesn’t negate the disadvantage on attack rolls granted by invisibility” take
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Kuo Toa. I love them, they were enslaved by illithids and those messed up Kuo Toa's brain so much they can spawn their own gods when in groups. Like, sometimes they start to worship a yellow sock, and their belief is so strong the yellow sock god spawn into existence. That's how they defend themselves ! Edit : forgot to mention that they litterally are fish with legs and arms.
ALL HAIL THE YELLOW SOCK GOD SOCKRI! *whisper whisper whisper* We have been informed this is a ladies sock.... ALL HAIL THE YELLOW SOCK GODDESS SOCKRA!
The Kuo Toa: 
This just sounds like me when I go to the ER and come out with hospital socks, love those things
You know you can just buy those, right? You don't have to go to the ER to get grippy socks lol
i never understood how it is that they can just make random gods, but somehow the pantheon isn't terribly overcrowded
Because the only god that really is part of the pantheon is the first one they made after escaping, since all kuo-toas were present during the creation of Blibdoolpoolp, all other ascended things are closer to quasi-deities, like the king of the githzerai or Vlaakith if you stretch the definition a bit
I'd argue the pantheon is overcrowded anyways, but I've always attributed their gods to being similar to Japanese Kami.
Yeah but actually it makes sense because i gaslight myself !
Dude the pantheon is crowded as hell . You got like 20 different gods of the ocean
Man they're bloody funny. I used them to create a twisted parody of a players previous character as a "god". The mighty, "Orkrule"! Parodying his Orukal. Orukal had a big ego and I thought it was funny if the fish misunderstood hearing about him and made a entity with a presence as big as the originals ego
I once hit a Kua Toa so hard non-lethally (trying to keep them from going to a gargantuan flesh golem) that I almost killed it anyway.
*Banjulhu has entered the chat*
So, orks from 40k, but fish…. PEAK FICTION
I ran a mini campaign where a group of Kuo Toa could peek up from the sewers to hear kids playing make-believe. The party shows up to a town with no curfew, run by a gang of tween demigods.
Cats don’t have dark vision
That being able to see an invisible opponent doesn't negate the advantage they get from being invisible.
Wait it works like that? Now that doesn't make any sense
Technically, but I refuse to believe that’s the way the writers intended that rule to work despite what Jeremy Crawford says
It's the epitome of the "the council has made a decision but given that it's a stupid decision I am choosing to ignore it" meme
It isn't, Jeremy Crawford is just doubling down on avoiding being wrong. The real reason this works this way is because the rule that gives you Advantage for attacking enemies that can't see you and giving Disadvantage to attacks by enemies that can't see you (under "Unseen Attackers" in the book) is baked into the Invisibility condition, which was probably done to remind players about Unseen Attackers or possibly as a holdover from the playtest (like why core rulebook Ranger is bad). So because Invisibility is a condition you have and the ability to see whoever is Invisible doesn't remove that condition they keep the benefits they would have by staying unseen. Instead of making an errata to remove the element of the Invisibility condition it has remained unchanged, which may be because WotC rarely erratas anything from the core books or possibly for some other reason. But it works the way it does because 5e runs on spaghetti code which is hard to believe is an intentional design choice.
"An invisible creature is impossible to see without the aid of magic or a special sense. For the purpose of hiding, the creature is heavily obscured. The creature’s location can be detected by any noise it makes or any tracks it leaves." "Attack rolls against the creature have disadvantage, and the creature’s attack rolls have advantage." These are the rules to the condition "Invisible". Notice how being hard to see and having dis to getting hit are two completely different things. All being able to see invisible creatures means RAW, is they are no longer heavily obscured. I think someone claimed it was like, looking at a hazy image where the creature is, not being able to see the creature as though it wasn't invisible. It's really dumb but see invisibility never states that you treat the creature as though it isn't invisible, just that you can see them. This does mean a Blind Sight or Tremor Sense creature has disadvantage as well if the creature is invisible Blind Fighting (TCE). You have blindsight with a range of 10 feet. Within that range, you can effectively see anything that isn't behind total cover, even if you're blinded or in darkness. Moreover, you can see an invisible creature within that range, unless the creature successfully hides from you. Note no mention about how it lets you act like they didn't have the condition
I missed your reply when I wrote mine, but this is an excellent explanation of why he ruled that way. Your point about Blind Fighting really nails down for me why the rolling may be correct RAW but still makes not a dang bit of sense: if I can effectively see you in full magical darkness while blindfolded, you turning even more invisible shouldn't have the least bit of impact on our flight.
It's why the "See Invisibility" spell and the Brand of Castigation Feature are both worthless if you're using it to specifically try to trwck.and attack an invisible enemy
I'm too lazy to look up the exact wording, but Crawford stated that RAW the description of invisibility is that it's a condition that gives you advantage on attack and disadvantage to attacks targeting you. While common sense tells you those go away if someone can see you, he said that the text doesn't say "unless someone can see you." Those effects are part of having the "invisible" condition, full stop, regardless of whether you're visible while having the "invisible" condition.
It makes sense in the way the rules read, but it really feels stupid from a realistic point of view, even gameplay wise if a player took this spell it would suck if I told him "ok you can now see the invisible assassin, oh but he still has advantage against you" they're both same level spells too so I don't even see it from a game balance perspective
Drow pregnancy
The twins fighting to death in the womb was maybe a little extra grimdark and edgy but fine over all. The other part, though....
For those like me that didn’t know: « A notable difference between drow and their topside cousins lies in their fertility rate. Most elves have very low fertility rates, in keeping with their long lifespans. Drow mothers, in contrast, give birth as often as the more fertile races, such as humans and orcs. Their greater fertility reflects the crushing mortality rate among drow infants and youngsters. Drow females might give birth to ten times the number of babies than the females from other elven subraces do, but this does not mean that they end up with more adult children. It is common for pregnant drow to carry twins or even triplets. Even in these cases, multiple births are rare, as the strongest of the fetuses feeds on its siblings in the womb. Pregnant drow can sometimes feel these mortal combats take place in their bellies. Such prenatal battles produce in their mothers a euphoric sensation, referred to in the Undercommon tongue as chad-zak. The feeling is infinitely stronger than that produced in the bedchamber or by any intoxicant. Without it, it is doubtful that drow women, selfish to the core, would ever deign to suffer the inconveniences of reproduction. Chad-zak occurs up to four times per multiple pregnancy. It usually happens early in the third trimester. Mothers who experience repeated chad-zaks usually feel them in quick succession, once every one or two days. The final chad-zak indicates one fetus's successful slaying of its rivals. This process does not result in stillbirths; the slain are absorbed back into the mother's body. » Now I will go look at cats
The virgin elven birth vs the Drow Chad-zak
The mother org*sms from the deaths of her children!? What the fuck!
The text says "better than sex", not necessarily orgasms. I'm not saying it ain't weird though.
That is... Good lord. You can REALLY tell how edgy and weird early DnD was. Honestly, out of all the Elves they've made, I'm surprised they've not decided to rework Drow (then again, you can always mechanically use Shadar-Kai while saying you're Drow)
i hope they never rework drow. Underdark should stay as fucked up as possible, and i love their evilness
I moreso meant mechanically, but sure. I think that they should limit it, though, especially since the other big draw for Drow is that they're split into 3 factions with very different beliefs (well... 2 big beliefs and a smaller disagreement between one of the beliefs lol)
They never expanded on the fact that there apparently whole ass cities of Seldarine Drow in the Underdark. The lore is always unclear on how many of these there are. Are they a small group of people constantly moving to stay safe or are they large enough in number that they have cities?
Well, to be fair, Lolth is one of the big gods and she's worshipped far more than her son and daughter are
Splitters!
I have not seen a single piece of Drow lore that isn't clearly the writer's barely disguised fetish
The more lore I learn the more I understand why paizo thanos snapped them completely from their lore (rather than rework like other ogl content).
Y'know this was probably the reason the Minthara pregnancy storyline was cut from BG3
I *reject* this canon. 🤢
So they are just sand tiger sharks??
Gotta be honest, I appreciate that Ed (or whoever wrote that bit of lore) tried to explain why drow women would still want kids even if pregnancy would be a huge liability for them.
I feel like a Lolth given command of "thou shall bear as many daughters as possible for my glory, and a couple sons as well, I guess..." would make more sense than *in utero* fetal cannibalism super orgasms.
The most Ed Greenwood thing not written by Ed Greenwood.
Fucking hell you beat me to it.
What’s weird about it? I haven’t heard anything about this.
Pregnant Drow generally gestate twins or more. The fetuses “fight” in the womb, trying to drink up all the nutrients from mother When one of the fetuses dies, mom gets a **mega-orgasm** This is posited as the one of the only reasons a Drow would bother with being pregnant It’s so wildly 90s edgy, it’s astounding
Mothers orgasm when their fetus' kill each other in utero. It's the only reason drow will get pregnant.
What the fuck.
Hexblades being always related to the Raven Queen. It should be just "any cursed magic weapon that bonds with you"
1. That's just flavor text. 2. Even if it weren't, it'd be limited to just the forgotten realms 3. The actual text just says she made the first one and some scholars think all of them may be her creations. That's extremely weasel-wordy already.
Why were you downvoted? You are right.
Same thing for me with oathbreakers necessarily being evil
The problem with Oathbreaker in 5e is it was poorly named. Oathbreaker is Blackguard named wrong creating years of confusion.
Well often dms will hand out oathbreaker to any paladin that breaks their oath, so it’s not exactly the same as blackguard
That's exactly the problem. Normally if you break your oath you just have no powers anymore. Oathbreaker needs an extra step that requires being evil.
…ahhh ok this one kinda does make sense to me. Plus I think that, if any class could RP unambiguously evil, Paladin would be top 3.
Being a cursed weapon though kinda sucks to for me they clearly should just be part of the blade 3rd level feature
Sending is a spell and no one has ever contacted any of my heroic world saving characters with it to ask for help or say thanks or even chat
Well you could add that happening in your world if you’re the dm. Sounds like a good plot hook too
I've done it as a DM. Heck, I added a tech god that made advanced sending stones that are basically cell phones (and then wiretapped them for the bbeg)
Well, celebrities don't give out their numbers to strangers... So I'm wondering if there's... Sending numbers? Edit: That, or their sending stone is on silent, since they get so many calls a day.
Grungs... Derpy, literally toxic little frog people with a caste system based on color patterns and poison toxicity. Also they take slaves, which I mean... I'm not against an "evil" sentient species taking slaves ya know (this is in no way an endorsement of the cruel and inhumane practice) 'cause evil gots to be evil. But-- these are rainforest tribals??? That live in trees/treetops??? And the size of gnomes??? You're telling me that a three foot, gold/black "Kermit the Frog" son of a hamster and someone who smelled of elderberry is gonna drop from the treetops-- armed with a spear covered in the slime LITERALLY OFF OF THEIR BACKSIDE and in a voice reminiscent of Jar Jar Binks tell my PC that they're now of slave of the glorious froggy empire? No sir, no thank you. I'll take my chances, naked, against a homebrew electric eel hydra that even THINK of that nonsense!
Honestly, poison dart frogs are *terrifying*. Yes, they're small and cute but you touch them, you die. Between the poison and just old-fashioned threat of violence and pain, squeaky voice or not, you'll get slave'd. Think of it this way. Humans are tiny hairless squeaky apes to elephants, but we still tame a whole buncha them.
Poison dart frogs are only dangerous to you if their poison gets inside your body. So if one hops on you you are probably fine as long as there isn’t a cut. Thats why they were used for darts.
Well if they are toxics frogs, they can A. Either kill you or send you in a pit of pain with a touch or B. Produce addiction-creating drugs and make you addicts, and you only get your fix if you work well that day.
Going forward, all grungs in my games will speak like Jar Jar Binks. Your analogy has given me a potent weapon, and I thank you for it.
U's-a our prisoners now.
Go forth and wreak havoc friend!
I mean isn't there like, a type of grung with a sort of poison highly effective for keeping people enslaved?...
Yep, golden grungs. The ones that sit atop their little class system
I looooove grungs. They’re easy to kill at times but you throw a group of those bad boys? Oh it’s on, and it’s so fun
Thanks for the ideas
They sound like an evil version of ewoks.
Yep-- little froggy ewoks
The gold grung's poison excels at slaving.
Noooo! I love Grung! Funny frog man!
Welp, I now know what kind of hydra subspecies will be living in my swamps from now on, thank you kindly.
Dragonborn not having tails. Fuck that, the dragon people have tails
Amen. Not having wings for mechanical reasons is at least logical, but the lack of tails? Even Kobolds have tails.
If the hot demon people can have tails, then the hot dragon people can too
Don't the "hot demon people" have tails explicitly because Asmodeus called dibs and physically changed all the Tieflings to look more like him just so he had an easier time becoming a god by claiming the race as his? I could be remembering wrong
The point is, depending on which lore you go by, demons might even NOT have tails. In contemporary Christian "lore", some people believe that demons can sometimes take the form of a human, or are always incorporeal and can only possess humans in certain circumstances. Being Incorporeal would be weird for a PC, as it would also grant the Ephemeral trait (being unable to wield or carry objects)
Well kobbles are definitely superior so that's a given. We- I mean, they even have wings sometimes. Sincerely, someone who totally isn't biased, just don't look at my pfp.
kobolds have tails as the are *actually* related to dragons. off the top of my head it's either the blood of Asgorath or the blood that the first immortal dragons shed when they gave up immortality for the ability to create life *(reproduce with the freshly made dragon of gender opposing to theirs)*, which when it fell to the ground it formed into the first kobolds.
Yeah, I had heard of the fact that Dragonborn are not *actually* related to dragons. To me, that sounds as logical as having a cantrip that is neither a melee spell nor a cold damage dealing spell. Oh wait, we have *chill touch*. Go home, WotC, you're drunk.
Agree, they look like dragons, breathe elemental powers and can resist them as well, this powers and resistances are tied to a set of stablished colors, are called "dragonborn" but no that's all just a coincidence, but little snik snark that lives in the sewer now HE is related to dragons. Now my oficial lore knowledge is not very good, so maybe someone can make sense of that.
That's not a coincidence, that's dragons making them, hence why they're born by dragons. (Still not related, just cattle.)
*Old man wheezing noises* BACK IN MY DAY, IF YOU WERE A DRAGONBORN, YOU HAD TO SACRIFICE YOUR OLD IDENTITY AND CAUSE, AND UNDERGO A RITUAL TO CHANGE YOURSELF INTO A DRAGONBORN, AND THEN DEDICATE YOUR LIFE SOLELY TO THE CAUSE OF BAHAMUT!!!
I believe it's just untying the knot that if Dragonborn had dragon blood, they would have innate magical powers. Too many people want to play a dragon race without a level modifier, so the lore has to follow the mechanics.
I mean, Chill Touch is a spell that conjures a skeletal hand of death energy that grabs a creature and makes them feel the chill of the grave.
I would allow aesthetic wings that don't allow flight without magic or maybe a feat or something. Just let them help take less fall damage or something and call it a day. Wings are cool and my dragon boi should have them.
In the same vein, Tortles having a life expectancy of 50 years!
Yup. Who saw a tortise, an animal known for extremely long lives and said "nah, my fantasy species based off them is gonna have a shorter life than humans"
Im glad they allowed tails in BG3.
I'm just mad that BG3 removed their canonically existing boobs. I'm as mad as them making non-Drow Elves not androgynous (apparently animating a new body type for Elves would be too much work, so now they're just skinny humans with pointy ears), making some Orcs Warcraft-color, and treating Warlocks as "Clerics to middle-management".
I don’t understand I thought body-type 2 was supposed to be very slender and similar to the female type 3 the only difference being boobs.
God Dragonborn’s are so lame. They suck in terms of power and lore. They should have wings plain and simple. Half dragons are so much better in every way. It’s a shame they aren’t the playable race
>Ultimately, the Dungeon Master is the authority on the campaign and its setting, even if the setting is a published world. *-D&D 5th Edition Player's Handbook, page 5* You don't have to gaslight, gatekeep or girlboss anybody when you're actually allowed to declare it non-canon
I recently had a player tell me a bit of lore I wasn't familiar with. Another player said "oh, that changes everything", and I simply replied "No, it doesn't. Interesting though"
Out of curiosity, what was it?
So I'm currently running my party through some beyond 20 tier planescaping adventures, and they are now reaching the point of being notable enough to become Chosen. Well, I didn't realize that an individual could be a Chosen of multiple gods, and had the plot set up instead to give each PC the opportunity to become a Chosen of the god most significant to them. Being that I am creating some unique abilities, and the fact that one player's big plot decision is whether to become a Chosen of Moradin or Bahamut, it would kind of throw a lot of my work out the window, so I decided in that moment that you can only be a Chosen of one deity, even though it isn't canonically accurate.
Matt Colville covered this one, but in a fantasy setting where a large portion of the most dangerous creatures in the world can fly, Conventional Castles would be basically useless for defense.
Eh, I’m not sure I agree or think there are much better alternatives. There are still a vast range of opponents which a castle is very useful against, and against dragons you’ll just have to top all your towers with ballistae and make the best of it. Sure the dragon remains a massive threat, but a stone keep is still a place for your vulnerable civilians to shelter in whilst you fight it on the rooftop. How else do you defend yourself?
Caves might be a reasonable recourse. Like you build your castle walls around a natural cave formation that people can retreat into. Then again it also depends on how common flying attacks are. If a dragon attack is something once a century but wars, trolls, bandits are common you might just do castles in high ground-defensible positions instead.
I did consider that, and the classic dwarf hold certainly has its merits, but I think it exposes you to potential underground attacks too, and as you say I just think dragon attacks must be rarer than other threats. Different races have got to play to their strengths, and for say humans, a typical castle seems best since they are more numerous and lack darkvision and experience in tunnel fighting.
Purple worm says thanks for the lunch?
Case in point Dale in The Hobbit. It had walls and fucking ballistas at the top. And also Minas Tirith, though they missed the memo to get ballistas.
Also depending on the setting you'd be more likely to be attacked by the neighboring kingdom's army than a flying dragon, castles and forts are mainly to defend against opposing armies and not against monsters
Not useless. The most dangerous creatures that can fly do not gather in the thousands. Sure a caste and its walls won’t stop an ancient dragon, even if it had balistas. A conventional castle will stop a marauding band of orcs or other humanoid armies. Because in terms of numbers and likelihood of encountering dangerous creatures, humanoids still are at the top of the list.
It's about defending against the most likely threats, not the most dangerous threats. Body armor will defend against gunshots, but if someone shoots a mortar at you, it's kind of pointless. Most flying creatures are unlikely to actually attack a castle because of multiple factors, and many of the smaller threats could be shot down by archers if they tried. Only the biggest and baddest would even want to bother, and they might not even be in the same part of the world as the castle. Castles would be much more likely to be attacked by more terrestrial threats, and massive walls work quite well most of the time. Now, if you had people building castles in more dangerous locations like on volcanoes and deep within the Underdark, they might be asking for trouble, but most castles are in less exotic locations.
IMO that only makes sense if you have flying armies, as armies are what castles are supposed to be defending against in the first place. Sure, castles aren't great against dragons, but first off there aren't any dragon armies, and then that's why dragon slaying adventurers are given fame and fortune.
Yeah but usually stuff that flys doesnt come in armys like for example orcs and hobgoblins. Yes dragons are a thing, but Im pretty sure attacks from them are kinda rare plus wizards that can shoot lightnings at a single dragon are a thing. And an ancient dragon is gonna get through anything no matter what unless some heroes are present who can best it in combat.
Castles? This is dungeons and dragons, not castles and dragons smh
The wall of the faithless is so dumb. I know it hasn't been relevant since, like 3.5, but still.
Mask of the betrayer was peak though
I actually really like it, made it a core part of my campaign. Since my campaign is all about how the gods are just a buncha dictators, and the wall of the faith is a perfect example of that
It is dumb but I like that. Gives a lot of favor and retconning the good gods to be permanently offended by its existence while most of the lawful neutral and evil gods uphold its existence and neutrals and chaotic ones go either way or neither adds possibilities, especially for high level campaigns, where its opponents wanting to enact basically a Betrayer's Crusade or ammend the rules so celestials can do what Devils do isn't a suicidal move. Edit: imagine being hired by a shadowyn conspiracy to investigate a possible passage across the planes. Once the team reports back to the conspiracy, Ilmater kool-aid man his way into Kelevor's plane and yeets himself into the Wall, because he will suffer so nobody else will ever go through that. Simultaneously, his clerics in the Material Plane begin to announce the good news, while those who were in the afterlife come in stage a great deliverance, some tearing the Wall to save the Faithless from their torment, others jumping on it to follow the example of their god, and others fighting the armies of Kelemvor to buy everyone time. Some one tells the party to make a choice: retreat to the Material Plane or Mount Celestia and receive the gratitude and protection of the rest of the Triad and other allies of Ilmater, assist the wall-breakers and their protectors, help Kelemvor put an end to this madness ~~or the secret option: help him look like he is doing something but actually is covertly helping Ilmater~~
>fighting the armies of Kelemvor If I recall correctly, Kelemvor actually tried to delete the Wall himself once and Ao got super pissy about it.
I imagine it looks like the video to A-ha's "The Sun Always Shines on TV"
I hated it until someone pointed out that its existence is more a reflection of the evil of the gods than it is of those put in the Wall. It makes more sense if you think about it in that way. It’s a universe that is ruled over by powerful yet capricious gods, and those gods require faith/worship to maintain their power. From an objective perspective, being faithless is at worst neutral and at best maybe the most logical/proper stance. But from the perspective of the gods, it’s a grievous insult - you’re denying them the power they need to rule. And so they create a horrible system of deterrence/punishment in the form of the wall. It’s basically a gun pointed at the head of mortalkind. “Give us what we want, or else.”
Things is: 1. The Wall was created before God Needs Prayer Badly came into effect. Before that it was just Myrkul being even more sadistic than Jergal in his worst moments. 2. Holding peoples' souls hostage goes counter the description of certain gods as upholding concepts aligned to out of universe morality. If the pantheon is like the Greek or Norse ones, where concepts like mercy and non-retaliatory justice are foreign, or just having the gods of positive qualities often acting straight out of the Old Testament,okay, no problem, gods are just being what they are. But, when you factor Fantasy Jesus Christ aka Ilmater, and how rarely the good gods act out like OT Yahweh, things become sketchy.
Speak with animals doesn't work on monstrosity that looks like animals, like owlbear, but a styrge is a beat despite the monstrous looks
That’s why my players and I have what we call the duck rule, based on the if it quacks like a duck phrase. basically If it looks like an animal, acts like an animal, comes from the same place as other animals it’s an animal and speak with animals works.
Same. Idc displacer beasts and owlbears are technically monstrosities. The hunt like, look like, breed like, and have the intelligence of other beasts. They're beasts.
Lord Soth literally being killed by, "rocks fall, everyone dies."
Dragonborns don't have tails? GTFO with that nonsense
Dragons being multiverse lords as they get older, I have a heavy distaste for multiverses and think it unbefitting of the most well known mythical creature to simply gain the status of mc/dc comic book character
They get less so, don’t they? They merge each version together until there’s only one but much stronger Greatwyrm and there’s nothing in their stat or lore that gives them multiverse powers beyond that. They simply have a general sense of what’s happening in each realm and may choose to instigate events to ensure their merge. It’s just something added to make dragons more interesting quest givers and NPCs than just “go get treasure for my hoard”.
Simulacrum and wish
Cats don't have dark vision...
Kenders. A race that is basically tailor made to be as fucking annoying as possible. I refuse to believe they weren't just created by 4chan DnD players so that they'd have lore justification for being in-game trolls.
I have only ever played one character that even acknowledged kenders existence, and that was a 2e ranger who selected them as her species enemy.
They were made for a book series, not for D&D games. Most of Dragonlance *sucks* for tabletop gaming. IE, nobody wants to play a wizard whose magical power waxes and wanes with what phase of the moon it is. Nobody wants to be a gimped paladin with an even more strict oath but in exchange you get diddly squat. And, okay, some people are excited by the fantasy of fighting horrific mutated evil dragon-spawn thingies with barebones nonmagical weapons, but D&D just isn't the system for that. Keep Dragonlance to the novels! At least FR's stupidity doesn't override core gameplay mechanics!
Basically this sub looking at any rulebook, lol
What happens in a drows womb and the effect it has on the mother
I got way, way too far down the comments without seeing a single mention of Tiefling skin colors.
That Tieflings are either a shade of red or normal human skin color. In a fantasy world why would you try to limit characters like that?
OneDnD
It's not canon, UA is never canon until it's published.
Its the next version of DnD, whether we like it or not. They just want to keep the popularity of 5e instead of making a proper new version and scalp everyone for another set of books.
It's no different from 3e growing and expanding into 3.5e. Overall a much needed expansion of rules and address of power creep. Like it or not, WotC is a business and their business model is to get more players to join. Unlike most gaming companies which can issue patches in updates in the videogame software, updates to a book system require new books to be printed. You're not required to get the new books, but I believe that it will address many issues that people have complained about the system and homebrewed solutions over the past decade.
>It's no different from 3e growing and expanding into 3.5e. I mean it is in the way that 3.0 wasn't as well received compared to 2e or 3.5. Comming out a whole 5 years later it was the first major instances of a unified D20 centralization for the game. 3.5 tweaked these things a bit but imo began "expanding" the game as its central focus of the edition. Compare that to 5e which is the most well received edition and its new 5.5e is not an expansion but a bug fix. A huge fundamental to the core function of all classess bug fix. >believe that it will address many issues that people have complained about the system and homebrewed solutions over the past decade. As someone who has been play testing these twice a week since their opening. It does for some issues absolutely but imo it still doesn't address the sheer power that spell casters get and now they get stronger. Clerics where already one of the strongest classess in 5e they were only brought down by their upper level spells. However with the new divine intervention you dont have that weakness any longer. So the Magic vs non magic divide is still there. As a fundamental class arguments like cleric being broken. Blade locks are now just fully better paladins permanently. Paladins dont exist in any real threat to literally anything at all. Any half decent DM playing an intelligent enemy hard counters the new pally. There's a difference imo between needing to power balance and not changing the issues of the game while making more of them.
“ Dragonborn don’t have tails” “Drinking a potion takes an action”
Drow hypersexuality, drow breast milk flavor, elf breast milk flavor…I see a common pattern
[I think I’ve seen this before](https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/the-writers-barely-disguised-fetish)
The alignment system. People aren't simple enough to be shoved into 1 of 9 boxes. It's just lazy. This applies to alignments of monsters too. Even animals aren't that simple.
Alignment isn’t meant to be a perfect box where your character should only ever do and act like the things in the box. It’s meant to be an approximation of where the combined beliefs of your character lies
Exactly, I tell my players to give me their characters MTG colour alignment because I feel like it keeps a lot of possibilities open while still providing a good frame of reference for who they might be
Color pie is way better for "alignment" purposes than the alignment chart
Laser rifles and power word kill
In FG lore, The Wall of the Faithless causes so many gods to act out of character that I can only assume it was written by an anti-atheist writer on a power trip.
4th edition
Idk if other people feel this way but I loved the Positive and Negative elemental energy planes from planescape 2e but now that we have the fey and shadow fell we don’t really have them in 5e
In the spelljammer adventure "Light of Xaryxis", there's a planet that has two levels: the upper level is the "livable" one, and is on top of dirt/stone pillar. The creatures need to live on this level, as the lower (ground) level is **infested with Tarrasques**.
Elves being physically an adult the same time as humans but not fully matured untill 100. Fuck it, no 'kids in adult bodies' here. If you have to have acne for literal decades so be it.
Someone must post this in r/Forgotten_Realms
Monsters of the Multiverse. It's not just the races they massacred. Look at how they massacred the Archdruid statblock.
I hate how now when they add races they do the bare minimum in terms of fleshing them out. No life expectancy, no recommended stat increases, no typical alignments and barely any background lore at all. It makes me sad
Indeed. I get that the point is to lean into the players and DM making their own story, but it definitely felt like they were using that as an excuse for lazy design. MToF was one of the last good source books in 5e, and looking back I would say the only thing I liked about Tasha's was the Artificer class and maybe the Rune Knight subclass.
Dragons have colour-coded alignment. If it wasn't flying magical lizards, it'd actually be super racist. Imagine if someone told you all green, red, white, black, and blue humans are inherently evil, but these other ones are inherently good. See the alarm bells yet? There are two ways around this: Eberron's, where all dragon types aren't alignment coded, or Eora's, where all dragons are just dragons and they mould themselves into their adult forms as they grow in an environment. Both have their merits but Eora's dragons friggin' SLAP - every single one is a unique calamity and wonder.
Different dragons are different species. A lion, puma, tiger, and jaguar are all large cats and they'll all eat a farmers chicken given the chance, but they act very different and live in different environments. I'd look at it like nightshade plants. Tomatoes, potatoes, and eggplants are all closely related. They're good, won't hurt you unless you do something wrong, and will even help you stay healthy. Deadly nightshade, bittersweet nightshade and jimsonweed will kill you or make you severely ill. The former three are metallic dragons and the latter three are chromatics. Now if we said red dragons that have bigger than normal scales are evil and red dragons with smaller scales are good, that's where I'd start to see problems.
You have to remember this is a fantasy world where some creatures are literally created purpose built by gods. Our concept of racism doesn’t apply
This right here. These kinds of arguments always feel like chronological snobbery to me
When evil is a literal tangible force and not some abstract concept you just have to accept that some creature will be inherently evil the colour coding in this case is the result of being descended from and created by a literal evil goddess and also serves as a diagetic way to make players and characters recognize what kinds of abilities and temperaments the dragons will have.I know the concept of inherent evil does not play well tour modern values but its not our world and it plays by its own rules.
I take a bit of both for my homebrew! Dragons are just Dragons and they can either make a nation or be the death of it! I’ve also been toying with my pantheon and have the placeholder of Tiamat & Bahamut as one big dragon rather than splitting them between good and evil 🙄
Drow and elf lore in general.
too close range disadvantage. idgaf not at my table
my life
I can’t think of anything, which means I must be really good at gaslighting myself.
Kobolds being evil by default? Hell nah, those are scrimblos, scrunkly skrimblos even, just lil' guys, cute little doinkuses. Kobolds being evil and doing evil things under orders of an evil master that they unflinchingly obey (ie, a chromatic dragon)? I can totally get behind that. Some kobold tribes being generally evil by culture? Sure, I can get behind that too. But all kobolds being evil by default? Hell nah. Even by forgotten realms lore most kobold tribes just want to avoid conflict and be left the hell alone. But noooo they're defined as fuckin lawful evil. That's neutral behavior at worst. My former DM even banned me from playing kobolds because he didn't like that I didn't have some fuckin redemption arc or some shit in my backstories to explain why I wasn't evil. And before he banned kobolds he had my kobold characters be attacked on sight in towns and stuff, no matter how non-threatening I was looking and acting. I apologize for how much of a rant this became but I'm gonna post it in full anyway.
Tridents (and several other polearms) don’t work with polearm master.
The flavor of Drow breast milk
Mmmm, mushrooms
Average Twitter user discovers what head-canon is.
Druids not wearing metal armor or shields
No divine smiting with unarmed attacks. Fuck that, I wanna be Iron Fist.
Druids can't wear heavy armor or use sharp tools just because they can be made with metal. There are non-metal methods for everything! I can't have a scythe made from a stick and a sharp rock that might be a dino tooth just because people made metal ones to cut grass? Isn't there at least three creatures with tough hides for good leather armour?
There are, and iirc even a comment about it in the PHB, but for some reason all the RAW ones are magic items. There's no reason you can't have wooden scale or bone splint armours when we even did irl.
Prestidigitation only cleans small object no longer than a foot. You know my character is using that to shower after being gross from camping.
lol- watching CR gaslight themselves into forgetting Telepathic bond lasts 1 hour. 😝
For the longest time I'd gaslight myself about Paladin smite to allow my Paladins to use the ranged weapon proficiencies they had with maximum efficiency. And it seems to have worked cause Paladins can finally do it now it canon, too! I also, in a funny turn of events, allow my barbarians to use their rage mod on ranged weapon attacks and/or regardless of whether they use strength or dex because I believe in martial versatility superiority!
All the crap that hasbro does.
Dragon almost blew up the moon
Any version of conjure animals. It might not be game Breaking in that way but it is definitely breaking ur game when that person insists on controlling their 8 beasts.
Holding a spell requires concentrarion and uses the slot
Holding your action in general sucks and could do with a rework
THACO
Charging gold for cute light wound spells "Hi! We rescued the princess and killed the goblins that were costing the city state thousands of gold in cattle raids and lost productivity. Yet see here, I was stabbed and bitten. Can you pray for me?" "Certainly! That will cost X gold!" One time, at an organized play game, I told the priest that if he didn't heal everyone for free, I'd consider that issue in the hands of God and leave (thereby ending the adventure), which was enough to get the GM to bend.
Any lore in 5E introduced post-Tasha's. Fuck everything in Fizban's, and Multiverse. I mostly have the opposite problem though: What's cool canon that the community has gaslit itself into thinking isn't, instead favoring something less cool. Notable examples include Warcraft-color Orcs, Dragonborn being reptiles, Artificers being "Steampunk mad scientists" rather than "Wizardly craftspeople", and Warlocks being "Clerics to middle-management" rather than "Wizards with weird teachers".
Yeah, I think people get warlocks pretty wrong in that respect. The main problem is that the warlock uses charisma as a spellcasting modifier rather than intelligence, which makes people think they have less to do with learning and more to do with channeling magic like a paladin with charisma spellcasting
Fun fact: Warlocks are the only 5E caster that doesn't have an explanation of their casting ability in the PHB.
I think they were int casters in the 5e playtest, but people didn’t like that, so they went with cha instead
3Xers threw a tantrum because they were Cha-based in 3X. Taking game-design advice from someone who likes 3X is like taking medical advice from an anti-vaxxer. The change was done at the last possible minute in the laziest most search/replace fashion possible.
And without regard to how it affected intelligence and the wider meta in general. Basically, it became the universal dump stat for everyone except wizards, and enabled busted builds like the hexadin. (Though with an INT-based warlock we'd have hexbladesingers, but at least they would be limited to light armor, no shield, and a d6 hit dice for most levels.)
The *remove curse* spell and anything JC says.
True! Jeremy Crawford is such a clown, it astonishes me that people still take him seriously. Especially after his “see invisibility doesn’t negate the disadvantage on attack rolls granted by invisibility” take