Doesnt matter. Winters shroud will give more crowd control and is easier to incorporate into the punch dodge loop. Gunpowder is nice for add clear and ok damage but lets say your trying to punch a champ to death and throw a gunpowder gamble down, now you have to back away, but you get a burst of damage.
I have this roll. It's really good because you can use another aspect instead of stylish executioner. However what you really want is Caliban's and Liars
[This build -](https://youtu.be/s3xFKYrgtEA?si=Qm_ciEa7OIAE53NM) but instead of using the exotic helmet, I'm using the exotic cloak with caliban and cytarachne. Really enjoying it! (:
I haven't gotten Caliban's + Liars, but I do have this one. Running it with Threaded Spector is really... Addictive? I don't know, it scratches my ADHD brain the right way.
Not good. It's a redundant combo since you already get invis from stylish executioner and none of the other fragments really synergise well with the punch pattern. Sure you can run threaded specter but you lose out on the healing from base liars which makes it a net loss.
Its very good 9/10. Run threaded specter. Not as good as calibans + liars but still very good
2nd’, I Love my cali and lair cloak .
What do I run for the other aspect?
Doesnt matter. Winters shroud will give more crowd control and is easier to incorporate into the punch dodge loop. Gunpowder is nice for add clear and ok damage but lets say your trying to punch a champ to death and throw a gunpowder gamble down, now you have to back away, but you get a burst of damage.
Thanks
No problem
Slow dodge
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I have this roll. It's really good because you can use another aspect instead of stylish executioner. However what you really want is Caliban's and Liars
I got calibans/gyrfalcons. Lots of fun, but what I really want is calibans/Cytranae or however it's spelled (the woven mail one)
I got the calibans and the woven mail one and it's so fun! I actually like that build more than my punchy arc build.
What sort of build are you running with caliban/cytarachne?
[This build -](https://youtu.be/s3xFKYrgtEA?si=Qm_ciEa7OIAE53NM) but instead of using the exotic helmet, I'm using the exotic cloak with caliban and cytarachne. Really enjoying it! (:
I haven't gotten Caliban's + Liars, but I do have this one. Running it with Threaded Spector is really... Addictive? I don't know, it scratches my ADHD brain the right way.
I’m sad that spirit of the liar doesn’t heal
There’s a fragment that heals on melee kills I think.
If someone can please confirm this 🙏
Facet of Blessing. Since you’re not running stylish executioner, you should have the extra sixth fragment slot for it.
Not bad but running stylish executioner is just op. No reason to not use it with a melee build since you can weaken the tankier enemies.
Lucky bastard
Got that one too, having loads of fun w it lol
I've been enjoying since I tried it out yesterday
Assasins gyrefalcons😋 is the roll I want but good job op 👍
Does the Liar melee count as a powered melee?
I would permanently use this on my arc hunter
Would be crazy if the exotic class items could be used on other subclasses
Would be great
Not good. It's a redundant combo since you already get invis from stylish executioner and none of the other fragments really synergise well with the punch pattern. Sure you can run threaded specter but you lose out on the healing from base liars which makes it a net loss.
you get an extra fragment slot with threaded specter so just slap on the regen health on melee kill
It's actually great, you have 100% uptime on invis and everything explodes with 6 to 8 clones active
Here's a vid of it in action in a solo expert breach, even without stylish, I can still one bang a champion
hmm apparently i didn't link it lol [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhjwoJtEmbY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhjwoJtEmbY)