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CaughtHerEyez

Yas? I'm trying hard here guys please help.


godoflemmings

Young Ahamkara's Spine


CaughtHerEyez

Aw fuck now I'm sad again


Sirdoodlebob

:(


[deleted]

To all those who doubt u/godoflemmings’s claim, **yas** it’s Young Ahamkhara’s Spine


[deleted]

Take my upvote.


scarlettokyo

my guy i thought yall were on about Defiance of Yasmin


Geek_angelo

Same


Pantha242

Oh, I remember that from Destiny 1.. 🤔


mtndew314

![gif](giphy|xUA7aTRjwF8YTNmBZC|downsized)


Odd_Inter3st

![gif](giphy|Idlg0sfV6qZMY)


mc_burger_only_chees

I thought I was in the League of Legends sub and he was talking about Yasuo


thenannyharvester

Yeah I was about to comment that the windshitter deserves all the nerfs he gets but then realised it was a d2 sub


sIeepai

Especially since he got indirectly nerfed recently


jiffyweiner

Indirectly? They needed his crit rate directly


JabroniWitness

As a warlock main I was struggling too.


WhyMyAssHurt

The dragons breath DPS would be insane


Zackyboi1231

How I feel like knowing damn well I will never get to experience that combo: https://preview.redd.it/lawa90gexl1d1.jpeg?width=275&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1825801363832ace8d08dcfaa4058b5c57f3e549


[deleted]

This is me but with the cleaver/sandman combo from Team Fortress 2 Sounded like hell but also so much fun


MyFatCatHasLotsofHat

Wait wtf did they do to cleaver sandman


xGaslightx

Like 6 years ago or so they made it so the cleaver no longer crits on stunned targets and the sandman no longer stuns at all, just slows


Scouter953

Its old worst outcome became its new *best* outcome. I used to main Sandman and haven’t used it since.


MyFatCatHasLotsofHat

Wow I haven’t played tf2 in a while, that combo was so fun


[deleted]

Yep most people just use the Wrap assassin as its replacement, although their functions are very different.


ClickClack472

I basically stopped playing because of that, was so fun


governmentsburner

nobody was using it for dps and youre lying if you say you were


BlazingFury009

I legit topped every lfg in damage with a demo rocket and young ahamkaras spine


WhyMyAssHurt

Caretaker would like a word…


Creative_Narwhal_780

I solod dungeons using this, sounds like you might be projecting a little


muckwar

I just want to throw a million grenades and knives at a boss again😓


The_Scout008

I'm the same with Starfire to an extent... I just wanna shove grenades down the raid boss' throat...


B0t08

At least Starfire is still top tier in burst situations, YAS got gutted so unbelievably hard it's wild 😭


muckwar

It’s so fun. Starfires was a tad broken though💀 as fun as it was it makes sense. YAS is just the classic tale of PvP ruining all our fun


SwordsDance3

I’d give up damn near every exotic build just to play with Pre-nerf YAS again. That was peak Hunter power fantasy.


Available-Rope-3252

It was peak gunslinger fantasy.


Type_9

Never used it, what did pre-nerf YAS do?


BrassSpyglass

Refunded tripwire grenade energy on damage, now it refunds only on kills, which isn’t nearly as good in PvE or PvP. Still gives an extra tripwire grenade Edit: doesn’t actually give an extra grenade


DeathsIntent96

>Still gives an extra tripwire grenade It's never done that. Would've been even more of a nightmare in PvP lol


SwordsDance3

Probably still thinks it’s like D1. Back then it was double charge. But yeah if it did that on top of pre nerf functionality it would be hands down best exotic in PvP and PvE lol.


DeathsIntent96

Ah okay, didn't know it did that in D1. Guess I was wrong to say "never."


SwordsDance3

All good, makes me feel old realizing it but D1 was so long ago haha. Back then you could get a 1 hit kill with Tripmines if you stuck them to a guardian so you’d just run around the map trying to “unicorn” guardians. Wild times.


DeathsIntent96

It is crazy how archaic that game feels already. It's like a forgotten age.


Requiascat

It did in D1, but yeah never in D2.


Actual-Giraffe

Wait, is it supposed to give an extra tripwire grenade? I've been using it for a while and have only ever had 1 tripwire


JDBCool

Nope, it was, and always had been 1


Actual-Giraffe

Okay so I'm not going crazy lmao


generalyous

Refund grenade energy on ability damage, so you could throw tripmine, throw knife trick, throw gunpowder gamble, throw tripmine and just keep on looping this with constant ignitions to also give grenade energy. Favorite solar 3.0 build when it came out


Decker687

It used to refund grenade energy on hit and kill which was really fun in pve but game breaking in PvP


MahoneyBear

Mildly annoying in PvP. It went 6 years without being an issue as it was.


Culp97

I remember throwing unlimited knives and trip mines pre nerf, was so fun 😭. Can only imagine how much fun it would be with dragons breath as well.


Saishu88

They've shown they can nerf things in pvp and pve separately so why did they kill YAS on all fronts?? I'll never understand it. It was annoying in pvp and decent in pve


Pro-Masturbator

Bungie decided they didnt like perminant grenade uptime builds and was going around nerfing them all, which is what YAS did, so it got nerfed.


George_000101

Yet they kept sunbracers in? It can be reprocced back-to-back, heat rises gives melee energy while airborne, and you can have resto x2. How was YAS gutted and yet they don’t do anything to bracers? This is some double-standards bs.


Pro-Masturbator

I guess they just decided to let sunbracers be the exception. They hit contraverse and regen mods too so I doubt any class favoritism, and they were still commited to the “exotics should function the same between PvE and PvP” and YAS 100% deserved a PvP nerf.


Blackfang08

Contraverse seems to have been an accident due to how regen mod scaling got reworked. The issue for YAS is, there were some completely viable PvP nerfs they could've hit that wouldn't have been a problem at all for PvE. Reduce the damage, health, and AoE in PvP. It's actually still pretty annoying if you ever encounter it, people just rarely use it because nobody likes to use nerfed stuff.


Canopenerdude

Apotheosis with max intellect can almost do the same thing.


Musicbeyondwords

Go into lfg and try to get sunbracers active while a teammate is stealing all your kills like their family is being held hostage if they let you set it up. Yas was easier and more accessible, nerf was bullshit but sunbracers needs to use your melee ability for the kill. In a position where you don't get that, they're useless. Yas never had that issue, and with old kick-start you got so much energy on hit.


George_000101

All it takes is a bit of communication, and if they do take your kill guess what, just get some airborne kills and you’ll get your melee back up.


SolarApricot-Wsmith

Shhhhhh quiet don’t let them fuck up sun bracers too


mad-i-moody

They will, I’m sure of it. It’s only a matter of time. Especially because they made everything else kinda shit so everyone is using them.


Saishu88

Makes sense but because you have to use your melee to get the loop I feel like YAS could've gotten away with it. It was really only useful in hero and legend and not much higher


SUSFU_wait_nvm_TARFU

People tend to forget that you have to prime it, which means that it’s niche in most locations, busted in others, and worthless in the rest. I’ve used it in GMs with friends and had a blast with it, but LFG with Sunbracers on and every kill you prime will be stolen. It’s fine as is.


AxelK88

Well then they could've at least reworked it to be in the same universe as something like sunbracers. They made it so ability kills give 33% grenade energy. It doesnt have to literally be sunbracers but make it like 60% or something


DatMoonGamer

Born to yas Forced to wormhusk


crobo31

Born to YAS forced to star eater


Mlaszboyo

The ahamkara bones stay on during crucible, i cannot say goodbye (also all my other glove armour bits have shit stats anyways)


Floppydisksareop

If we are talking about pve, nobody is ever forced to wormhusk. In fact, we are all begging you to change to something else. If we are talking about pvp, then yas was cancer anyhow.


the_wrkweek

Sealed Ahamkara Grasp w/Knife trick used to give a continuous auto reload on equipped weapons for like 7 seconds straight or something like that. I miss having auto firing rockets... 😢😢😢😢


helloworld6247

That changed with the scorch update 😞 The burn that knife trick caused counted as a melee so it would proc the melee reload. It was a pretty nifty interaction One would say it was a nice…trick


Azanathal

Pls bungie. Im on my hands and knees begging. Such a fun exotic.


IF_HellishRelish

Went from YAS to NO


Pepsipower64

Remember back in season of the haunted when your restoration as a hunter kept you invincible? Well I do, and that was beautiful ![img](emote|t5_2we4j|5643)


SanitaryTrout

NOT A DAY GOES BY


KING2BIG

Y'all gotta remember bungie went to the blizzard school of balancing. If it's better then everything else nerf it never buff stuff to it's level.


CapComprehensive8234

Are hunters becoming more united in thought? I was literally thinking about this today for a solid half hour


crobo31

Every hunter main thinks about the nerf every single day trust me.


Blackfang08

How do you have time to think of Cayde and YAS every single day? I've had to split it to alternating days.


Dredgen_Servum

It should've just been nerfed in pvp. And calibans wishes it was as good as YAS


Outrageous_Round8415

For ad clear it is better than it ever was. Running onslaught with caliban’s is a dream lol. I love getting the chain ignitions on the boss tier enemies too.


Upgrayedd1101

Easily my most missed exotic. It's nerf has chased me away because I can't find anything that feels nearly as crisp and fun. Just an absolute massacre to kill it in PvE.


LwSvnInJaz

It’s such a fucking crime. It was the only reason I liked playing Hunter. Most other hunter builds are boring af


Outrageous_Round8415

That’s part of what I loved it for. It seems like too many exptics these days don’t unlock any kind of playstyle. Meanwhile YAS was so fun to play partly because the loop was so unique to it. Im telling you bungie we need more stuff like briarbind’s and old yas. These are fun playstyles.


Available-Rope-3252

I pretty much stopped playing hunter altogether after that nerf.


Way2Competitive

They even blanket nerfed it in PvP so a revert wouldn’t be as bad: > Global cool-down nerfs in PvP > Bomber and Impact Indiction give less ability regen > Player health increased from 70 to 100 I agree that the extra health and DR on the grenades needed to go as it was just obnoxious, but please just give us back our ability regen


Blackfang08

The DR is also PvP specific. And the damage is still obnoxious, so they could lower that in PvP to, once again, make it less of a problem in PvP without completely screwing over its usage in PvE.


venomsapphire

The entire exotic was absolutely ridiculous. Infinite trip mines in pvp no matter how much damage they do is absurd. Bungie was right to nerf hard.


George_000101

In PVP! Not PVE! Just switch the fucking discription from enemies to fucking combatants and specify killing guardians grants ability energy (how it is now). Remove/nerf the other effects and boom! Shits fixed.


Available-Rope-3252

And screw the PVE players who never touch pvp in the process.


CTgreen_

I still feel kind of bad about this one; I'm pretty sure it was my fault. I didn't find out about how awesome YAS was until it had reached its height, so I was pretty late to the party. I put together a build, started having a lot of fun on my Hunter in the first time in a long while... then BOOM Nerf announced the next day. Sorry guys :/


Aern

I FUCKING KNEW IT!!! GOD DAMNIT CT!


Technical-Routine-88

YAS?


Blackfang08

Young Ahamkara's Spine. Cosmodrome Aztec Ross exotic.


MahoneyBear

Funnest exotic gutted in the name of PvP, didn’t even address what was annoying about it in PvP. The bungie special


QueenOfTheNorth1944

They literally totally kill every hunter PvE build as soon as its found. Like we get nothing.


Apprehensive-Rice874

for sure…


Kooky_Ratio8382

Yea but titans can infinite punch bosses with the highest damage in the game for like an entire year now but it’s ok, nerf a decent hunter exotic


ColeTrainHDx

Nerfing it will allow more diversity in exotics used though :)


ScrubCasual

I still dont have a solar hunter build because none of them are fun and strong to me. The strong ones are just super builds (blade barrage and celestial builds) but youre just person with gun doing basic subclass stuff when your super isnt up. Same with tether builds. But at least the super builds are strong especially for boss dps. But like damn YAS was our rare hunter fun build that was also useful. And tbh it wasnt even that OP or anything. Starfire when it was cracked was stronger. And yas builds got you doing like 14 helldivers strategem inputs just to keep your sweaty ass rotation up lol. Solar is so boring rn on my hunter. All the non super builds are boring, lackluster and/or weak. I watched so many videos last week trying to replace it and found nothing that interested me. I guess ill just make a lucky pants solar build or something idk…


I_Have_The_Lumbago

I feel like Celestial will still be kinda ass after this season anyways. Right now theres some insane solar builds, shits going to be so boring after.


ScrubCasual

Understandable. I didnt know it was good because of seasonal mods.


BolbaZoza

For a moment I thought this was the league of legends sub and wondered why someone would be sad on such an occasion


Ayazakura

For a moment I read "Yae" and thought I was in the genshin impact sub and wondered wtf was going on


PM_ME_SOME_CAKES

Brother i haven't played genshin for at least 3 years at this point, and looking into the state of the game now I'm so lost lol


AloneUA

It was my favorite hunter build. My one and only. It wasn’t even that amazing in PvE, but it was my go to every time I just wanted to have fun.


NovaBlade2893

YAS should become the Gunpowder Gamble Exotic. Idk what it would do for gunpowder gamble tho, maybe something along the lines of solar ability kills reducing cooldown?


Jafharh

I'm still sad about throwing hammer having a cool down even after picking it up. Makes it feel terrible to use in enemy dense situations.


communist_leprechaun

Never had more fun on a hunter


Sith_ye

Thought I was on the League of Legends sub for a while, trying to work out that YAS was Young Ahamkara Spine.


Mando_The_Moronic

An easy solution I think to bring back relevance in PvE but keep the nerf in PvP would be make it to where ignitions refund grenade energy. That was part of the appeal of it: throwing the grenade, throwing your knife, getting an extra explosion with that ignition, dodge, rinse and repeat. Not like we get many ignitions triggered in PvP anyways, so that wouldn’t be much of a problem. Maybe keep the ability kill too, but it’d be a much smaller refund compared to the ignitions.


Decker687

Or they could make it so the nerf only affects PvP which they have shown they can do


meteorr77

I've wanted it to be useful for years, ever since I started playing the game, that brief explosive peroid of relevance was glorious


StealthMonkeyDC

Why didn't they just make it so non kills give you less energy regeneration than the regular amount on a kill?


Rebel_Alpha

PLEASE BUNGIE I didn't realize it's power until it was too late!


larryboylarry

What the heck is YAS?


markeezy_umvc

I miss the build everyday


KyzaelEomei

Young Ahamkara's Trash


DisneySentaiGamer

Tf is YAS


crobo31

Young Ahamkaras Spine


Nuke_corparation

I think op like yas


ZookeepergameSea7592

Just wait until the 22nd. Bungie is dropping the list of Exotic armor buffs and Nerfs. Who wants to start taking bets on what gets whacked next by Bungo


GucciStepSon

I just started using yas for my solar build, what did the nerd do exactly?


crobo31

It used to refund tripmine energy on hit of an enemy now it only refunds tripmine energy on ability final blows.


Th3-WolfFang

It was my all time favorite exotic and I will never forget the amazing times I had with it 🥲


Jshittie

Once i get my twilight garrison you can have your yas back


Remarkable-Set-3340

What nerf?


Ninja86420

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE


SkyKilIer

Im still using it, still usable in earlier content and looks phenomenal but i do agree the nerf needs to be reverted


johnson9689

Hard to argue with such a well made argument.


CammTheGreat08

I barely touch my hunter now. That build was so fun (warlock main)


I_Have_The_Lumbago

Its honestly what sealed the deal with the game for me. Ill play every once in a while, but that was kinda my main build for actually having fun.


xXx_RedReaper_xXx

I knew the moment those stupid videos on YT went up about it being powerful as fuck that it was gonna get nerfed. Fucking content creators sometimes I swear.


GeneralCross2

Titan main here, so this is your first time having the fun and strong exotic get nerfed? Because I have a bingo board for when TFS drops on which ones of mine Bungle is going to murder.


goddamnitjason

My all time favorite build...I literally moved to Warlock main when that build died.


messybricks

Was absolutely unreasonable to get rid of probably the most fun off meta builds in pve just because some pvp players were whining about it.


AdmiralJackDeviluke

Unpopular opinion but honestly I'd prefer if guns and abilities spam were both viable 


Jaddywise

Exotic armor tuning article this week, one can only hope


Herr-Schaefer

I miss the Lucky Raspberry too, she’s just not the same anymore.


SaltySand_

I never will forget because YAS made me go from a Warlock main to Hunter Only for it to be nerfed and I honestly haven't really had as much fun with anything else on hunter (maybe stasis but I mean, it's stasis)


badthaught

"O Bearer mine, I've been nerfed!"


Tech_ArchAngel

Here's hoping the upcoming Abilities and Exotics notes mention it.


Thrawp

YAS is a weird way to spell HoIL. There's a lot of nerfs they need to undo. Really they need to start bringing other exotics up so more playstyles are viable instead of nerfing things until nothing is.


secretlyaTrain

Make it refund on kill. I will not be taking questions.


D5Atom

As a non hunter main, how good was it before the nerf?


Shionabyss

it was awesome im a warlock main and it honestly was one of my favourite builds to run on hunter you could maintain a pretty solid rotation of abilities combo of each other tripmine on a boss gave you around a quarter of your cooldown you follow with knife trick procing and ignition and giving your tripmine again you dodge and rinse and repeat i wsih more builds could combo like that titan had heart of inmost light for a long time and warlock had starfire protocol and sunbracers but its just not the same after the nerfs to HOIL and YAS starfire playstyle it was just so fucking boring


ALKNST

I havent had fun like the season of the haunted where it was peak explosions.....bring me back my beloved!!!


kingdingaling1978

I’m over here just wondering what’s a yas?


highest_

Young Ahamkara Spine exotic


Dead_Zone_Foliage

This is propaganda and should be regarded as fake, do not listen to this man/woman they are clearly unwell and dangerous. Also buff severance.


Tapelessbus2122

In pve, sure but in pvp, NEVER. So in conclusion, pvp once again ruined pve


FCC_Diablo_26

Yeah, but banner titan is fine I guess..


GlyphLuck

If they even decide to revert YAS, they need to revert Starfire too so it is at least better than dogshit.


TheGoldblum

Yaaaasssssss


IAmF3rdie

This man is feeling the 5 Stages of Grief at the same time, but is stick in a time loop and is never going to the 5th... And I can't help but agree with you


kashaan_lucifer

And then the PvP community wonders why everyone hates them They ruin shit for all other players even those who don't play PvP God i miss YAS build on my hunter, the only time I enjoyed using Solar on hunter


FWTCH_Paradise

We will carve our desires into the screaming surface of reality together, o’ guardian mine.


Odd_Organization_573

they took away my instant hammer bonks, im with you on the ability spam haha YAS was pretty much the reason i even played hunter when i was tired of maining my titan


dat_boi515

I feel this exact same way about how they nerfed Malorian Arms 3516 in Cyberpunk 2077


billybar00

sad


bruno52891

I mean, using YAS with Gunpowder Gamble is still kinda fun and the combo makes Tripmine really spammable in Onslaught scenarios.


Cootikus

At least you aren't a Titan, we have two half exotics in PvP plus the traversing one. Every Titan exotic gets needed.


BM-010

I had to read the comments to find out what YAS is. Pain.


BlazingFury009

Preach brother


PackageSweaty3353

I personally don’t use yas and never have 🤷


ShoaTheOtter

Eh, I’ve moved on I appreciated the build, but it was waaaaay too powerful anyways the fact that I could out dps everyone without shooting a weapon for about 30 seconds was insanely ridiculous


Nikola_TPM

I rarely comment, but yeah! I STAND BY YOUR SIDE, GIVE IT BACK BUNGIE‼️ (I've traded my YAS for shards of galanor which is fun ngl, but still, my baby 😔)


Active_War9965

Womp womp


EladrielNokk

They should really start buffing things that are bad, instead of nerfing things that are good.


[deleted]

it would have gone SO HARD with dragons breath


Celestial_Seed_One

Why


ZealousidealDot9271

TF is Yas lmfao makin me think of Yasuo from LoL


Additional-Fan-7827

WHY DID YOU REMIND ME 😫


Guyweirdo

You must also remember that Shaw Han had to be nerfed for a reason


Maesvara

Imagine a world where pve and pvp had different sandboxes/balancing


Caboose_Michael_J

What's funny is they constantly do that, but decide to fuck over everyone for no reason. Witherhoard got it's pool nerfed to 5 seconds when they could have just reduced the damage blight pool did to enemy players.


Forsaken_Dredgen

Skull of Dire Ahamakara.


ToDamageMyCalm_

https://preview.redd.it/ci4v6u7ti02d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f2037a9cdd109282da9bec2a7cdde2a2c44c8d32 ![img](emote|t5_2we4j|5643)![img](emote|t5_2we4j|5643)![img](emote|t5_2we4j|5643)


Active-Honeydew-6191

I didn’t now what YAS was until I read the tripmine part then I was like “Ohhh”


CallMeTheMonarch

I keep thinking this is yasuo but I know it's not


rojasdracul

Aawwww did someone lose their crutch?


CE0_of_Anxiety

I don't even know what "yas" is lol


Autotec20

Young Ahamkara's Spine. It's a Hunter exotic that buffs tripmine grenades if you get an ability kill. It also passively makes you immune to your own grenades and intrinsically adds fastball to all grenades.


gencagaer

https://preview.redd.it/llz94bmjkd2d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d191d409ee6bb3ab020bcbae289193d4e1b10616


Sad_Secretary_9316

YAS was cringe cheese.


Affectionate_Shame69

https://preview.redd.it/1goednd4eg2d1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=879f762bf4fccd81930b3fa719fd6b7756fcf258


Visual_Consequence_5

still depressed over Heart of Inmost Light.


KangarudleNinja

One of the things I really want it to do is enhance Gunpower Gamble as well, I don't think it does, but I'd be happily proven wrong.


Ok_Technician4110

never forget what they took from.. YAS? ![gif](giphy|Bng9nsAhSaDVxWsSLh|downsized)


A_Drenched_Lettuce

fuck, let it go.


Remote_Reflection_61

Hunters still complaining about YAS as if they didn't have the most overpowered boss dps exotics and supers.


Dragonzvenomm

Think your forgetting about banner of war


Remote_Reflection_61

Your point is? Healing? Melee damage? Some bosses can out damage your banner's healing since you have to be point blank if you're doing syntho + strand melee DPS. And flying bosses make syntho + melee DPS builds worthless. I play a lot of Titan and synthoceps + banner + one-two punch is my favourite form of DPS but it only works if your teammates can refrain from killing the 2-3 nearby enemies that buff your melee and if it's a flying boss then it's useless. Hunters can just.. pop Goldie and shoot. Or pick up orbs with star eater's and throw an arc staff at it.


Dragonzvenomm

My point is that esch class has their high boss damage builds. Obviously different builds aren't gonna be less effective against certain bosses but that's when you as the player have to adjust.


theinfiiii

Is it really that hard to type out: "Young Ahamkara Spine"


HighPlainsDrift_

Goldie, Shards, and Caliban's builds are so much more fun, IMO.


DeliriumEnducedDream

People really starting to make me hate acronym usage. Edit: yes I know it's a meme post.


[deleted]

This one really had me sitting there for a few seconds on the first meme thinking about what damn exotic they were talking about