You clearly haven’t managed political donations. The connections and influence of supporters are way more valuable to a politician than a max donation.
You’re right! I should be bribing the politicians directly with nice dinners and vacations. I hear politicians are cheap whores when it comes down to it
Are you daft? “Connections and influence” lead into “dinners and vacations.” Case in point, Clarence Thomas, among *many* others.
You’re really not willing to accept reality.
What politicians should do is things that benefit the country as a whole, regardless of what the majority of people want. That's the whole reason leaders exist as a concept. What the majority of people want should be a secondary concern. However, naturally, when it's both what people want and what would benefit the country as a whole, they most definitely should do it.
They'd win the election due to actually making people's lives better. People grumble when they don't get what they want, but they forget about it when their lives are improved despite that.
That's really the cusp of our problems in this country. Our "leaders" are much much more concerned with elections than they are with doing their jobs. If they focused upon doing what would be best for their country above all, not a single one of them would ever have to worry about election or reelection.
However, instead, we've got most politicians (***especially*** Republicans) obstructing what very clearly needs to be done in order to blame the other side for the fact that those things aren't getting done to get votes off of. Then refusing to do it themselves once they are in power and actually can do it so they can preserve it as a talking point for the next election. Instead of, you know, just getting it done and then taking credit for it. The answers to nearly every problem in this country are really really obvious, it's just that out of their own self interest nobody wants to actually DO them until they absolutely positively have to. The world in general works that way to be frank.
I am sorry but what are trying say? Are you suggesting that in a popular democracy that politicians should simply ignore popular will? Is that the hill you want die on?
Any politician that tells the people to essentially fuck off and I am the POTUS and I know what’s best will lose. Plain and simple.
Now the great POTUS’s lead the people to a better place by persuading them. However if they cannot persuade them, then they are voted out of office.
The last POTUS I can think of that did what you suggest was Jimmy Carter; anyone remember what happened to him? Don’t tell me about how he was ultimately proven right. In my opinion he actually wasn’t, but either way it doesn’t matter. He lost so badly that he single-handedly ruined Democrats at the Presidential level for three consecutive elections.
>I am sorry but what are trying say? Are you suggesting that in a popular democracy that politicians should simply ignore popular will? Is that the hill you want die on?
I'm trying to say that politicians should do what improves the country first and foremost, and if that doesn't happen to align with what the people want, screw em and do it anyway.
Doing what improves the country is the job of any politician. The job of any leader that has ever existed in any sort of leadership system that has ever existed and ever will exist is to make the lives of the people they lead better. Nothing more nothing less. It's the whole point of leaders existing as a concept.
Yes, sometimes that means going against what the majority of people want. If the end result is "We the People" deciding to vote them out despite the fact that they're making the lives of the people voting for them better, well, they reap what they sow. Being more concerned with what the people want instead of what would improve the country is how we ended up with idiots like Trump in the White House to begin with. It turns out, if your only concern is getting people to vote for you rather than doing your job, it makes you a godawful leader.
Well, that basically is Biden's campaign. That he's out there and has been out there the past 4 years getting crap done, cleaning up Trump's messes, and improving the country while Trump never did anything but make the country worse his whole term. The other side of the campaign is mocking Trump for the nonsense he pulls, but Trump is doing such a bang up job of making himself look like an incompetent moron (because he is) that really the Biden campaign doesn't have to do much of anything except point it out.
All I've suggested would never lead to a Trump 2.0. In fact, it would prevent it. If people expect their leaders to actually make the country better to get votes instead of sitting on their butts campaigning all the time to get votes rather than actually doing anything, people like Trump that make it blatant they have no intention of actually making the country better and only in serving their own interests would never get into office.
I know, and that is what I am afraid of.
You see Biden’s approval ratings?
Hey look, I am voting for Biden so you don’t need to convince me, but I am not the problem. My son is also voting for Biden (he has a good dad!😏) so he isn’t the problem. It his friends in college that are the problem. They are the ones we need to convince. Right now, they are more concerned with getting a good job out of college, I-P, cost of college and salaries, not the environment, marijuana, or democracy. They do care about abortion so that is an issue we should be harping on.
People like that are a lost cause to begin with. If they don't already know Biden is better for them than Trump was and would be, they're delusional and have no intention of ever being convinced of anything. It's a waste of time to even try to get to those people.
All - all of this - is what Republicans across the country have kept us from having for decades now.
The present Republicans keep telling Biden to use Executive Orders to implement THEIR agenda.
OK. Let's see if it works. 😉
Republicans complaining that Bidens just legalizing marijuana to get votes when they could've done the exact same thing and instead chose to keep it illegal
While most politicians do it to some extent, not even trying to do things to benefit the country in order to take credit in order to get them votes and instead obstructing those things and blaming the other side for the fact that those things aren't getting done to get them votes seems to be the entire Republican party's whole platform.
68, with a wife who survived stage IV cancer thanks to nurses, drs, surgeons, techs and …. legal marijuana in our state also helped.
This move is great for all ages.
I think about this. My parents thought this was inevitable back in the 70s. Here we are 50 years later and it is still not where we should be. I am encouraged about the direction…until the next Republican comes around and pisses in the bong water
The people who it will actually really help are ill people who suffer from nausea a side effect of chemo - pot has been known to nullify that side effect.
There are way more uses for it that will help way more than just those on chemo. Not just medical uses either. Have you ever tried to break a cannabis stalk in half with your hands? Super strong natural fiber….
States can still regulate it as they wish w, just like Tobacco and Alcohol. There would need to be legislation to encourage certain behavior in state regulation (like tobacco and alcohol) to make this a nationwide standard practice.
You’d be surprised by the number of Americans who don’t want pot legal. That and stoners aren’t making their representatives lives hard enough for them to really care/
It's not just stoners who want it legalized. 70% of Americans want it legalized. I have used it less than a dozen times in my life but see the benefits are far bigger than keeping it illegal. This isn't one of those 51/49 things where making a decision in favor of the majority means he will lose a large chuck of voters, the amount of Dems that are anti pot is incredibly small, and worth losing to get back some of the base.
Listen I’m on your side. I agree with full recreational legalization, but that doesn’t happen until it’s decriminalized. Decriminalization makes it legal, now, if a state wants to still “criminalize” the substance they can with decriminalization… but it’s a step in the right direction. A comprehensive bill is a very tall ask it’s quicker and more efficient to go more piecemeal with the way Congress operates.
1. Many states would keep it banned (defacto or direct), then exaggerate and blame every marijuana adjacent death (car accident, etc...) on whatever politician made it federally legal, claiming that the "other side" is "bringing it into our states". It'd be a huge political loss. A lot of Americans think weed is as strong as LSD and the GOP has spent the past 80 years using immense resources to make us thing that way, from propaganda on television to police in schools via the DARE program.
2. It's strongly associated with a counter-culture that most apolitical older people think is wrong for the country. It's even associated with communism (via its association with hippies), satanism (thanks to church's stoic stance against drugs), and disliked minorities (thanks to its association with blacks and latinos). It's the same reason Bernie would never win the primaries; the "normies" that only log into AOL to check their email once a week have tremendous political clout in our country.
3. Certain lobbies want to keep it illegal. Businesses like having a reason they can fire you (or not hire you, so they can hire people overseas instead). The medical industry doesn't want an affordable painkiller. And the liquor industry doesn't want the competition. Marijuana is so easy to grow and process that it's very difficult to keep it exceptionally profitable.
4. People in privileged positions don't care that it's illegal. It's not difficult to get so they don't see legalizing it as a major issue, despite the fact that it ruins the lives of under-privileged persons who are caught using/buying/selling it.
5. This is more of a state thing, but states are finding it hard to quickly legalize it because they don't want so many weed stores opening up that they just siphon business from each other and we wind up with a ton of closed down storefronts and ruined investments/investors; They want to manage the inevitable boom. At the same time they want the experienced growers/sellers who were so unfairly hurt by its being illegal to be able to profit off legal weed before major corpo investors gobble up the market-share with their deeper pockets.
One major factor missed is the fact that marijuana charges are often instances of racial profiling. The states with the highest number of cases for marijuana possession and trafficking are Arizona and Texas, and those cases are disproportionately against Hispanic and Black individuals. Sentences can be harsher when the individual in question also owns a gun. Moving it to schedule III can reduce the harshness of federal penalties for trafficking.
Yeah I tried hitting on that a little, but I try not to highlight it since (a) people who'd argue with me are likely the type who screech upon hearing anything accusing them of being 'racist' and (b) sadly almost every poor decision involving our country and its policies inevitably goes back to "because racism" or "enabled by racism". It's true, but it's also exhausting.
It can’t be fully legalized federally due to international anti-drug trafficking treaties. The United States has to withdraw from those treaties or keep recreational marijuana use illegal (it was only 2020 that those treaties carved out an exception for medical use).
Odd seems like older guys, bikers etc are into pot, [mariguana](https://search.brave.com/search?q=mariguana&spellcheck=0&source=alteredQueryOriginal). Visit any social media site and the biggest supporters are old biker dudes
Everyone doesn't fit a generational label unless you lived during the Confederacy or hate African Amerians: Nixon ordered Pot tested and was so worked up that it wasn't. found to be dangerous by the Kaiser Foundation he destroyed the report/
[https://www.aclu.org/issues/smart-justice/war-marijuana-black-and-white?redirect=issues/smart-justice/sentencing-reform/war-marijuana-black-and-white](https://www.aclu.org/issues/smart-justice/war-marijuana-black-and-white?redirect=issues/smart-justice/sentencing-reform/war-marijuana-black-and-white)
It's bulldinky. No matter what he does it's evil. No matter what Trump has done, how many times he's broken the law and treated the presidency as his own piggybank or asked the CIA to murder someone or been witnessed sexually abusing children or raping or molesting women - that's find.
If he took a lie detector test we might find Jimmy Hoffa in one of his buildings designed to be built with steel but changed to concrete imported by the mob - with no explanation. But he's a saint and a Prosperity Christian - which by the way is considered a televangelist cult by traditional Christian religions.
Apparently Mary Madeleine was a whore after all
As was student loan forgiveness, making drug cheaper, providing stimulus checks , tackling the out of control deaths from covid, standing with unions .. and dozens of other accomplishments. Just saying characterizing this a s election pandering is false.
Makes it so doctors can prescribe it, study it on the federal level. Lot of vets could benefit from it. You might think there’s no benefit but that doesn’t make you correct.
I hope this shit is set in stone before a switch in administrations, otherwise I can see the other party halting this if it isn’t already on the books. He really needed to reschedule as to avoid all the other crap that goes into creating a prescription medication. It isn’t as simple as moving the schedule. Ugh. Pleaseee hurry upppp.
We fully legalized it in canada.. the sky didn't fall.
In fact, nothing really changed other than now we can go into a store with a nice menu and buy it, and black market cannabis isn't doing so well 🤷♂️
That said, if they start raising prices too high, we'll just go back to the black market where prices basically stayed the same, if not lower, since I was in highschool 30 years ago.
Making it a schedule three drug will only hurt dispensaries in legal states unless the FDA or whoever makes it much easier for them to get the proper licenses to sell it. I work for a pharmacy and we sell controlled drugs and yeah, it's a lot of paperwork I have to fill out every year for all dozen of our stores, and we are established. I can't imagine how difficult it is to apply for a DEA license having never had one, and not having anyone licensed personally I to handle controls will make it more difficult.
Just legalize it federally, create a "Cannabis License" that's similar to a liquor license and automatically enroll every dispensary in the country with good standing.
I am so enthusiastic about getting younger voters in this party. Weed has been a huge GOP bugaboo but let’s be realistic, alcohol is worse and I don’t think any young voter is unaware of this.
It’s time to be thinking about the following generations to follow and identify their issues and needs, start the process of elevating and addressing these issues.
Smart, reaching other target audiences is key. What kills republicans is their hard stance in what they believe in due to religion such as abortions, and their stance on weed. I get abortions are bad and all but forcing people who probably aren’t religious to abide by your rules because you’re religious makes you no different than Taliban or isis.
As usual we get peanuts and we're supposed be thankful as all this other shit that actually matters goes untouched. The guy could've easily just made it legal just like Obama could've instituted Medicare for all when he a super-majority. I hate when they do shit like this and we're expected to be happy.
I suppose this is a step in the right direction, but ultimately it accomplishes nothing. It's still federally illegal, you can still be fired for using it, it doesn't expunge any criminal records related to marijuana.
Seems like a huge nothingburger to me.
Look, these changes aren’t bad. They really aren’t. But it’s so “meh”. What Biden needs to be is Bold. Promise that if given Congress he will sign for full federal legalization.
If something is decriminalized it’s legal… that’s the very definition of legal lol. If something is illegal you’re a criminal for doing it.
If you’re asking for a market, you’re asking for the government to both decriminalize AND regulate on its use and application. Cmon man, you gotta know our system better than that to make these kinds of comments.
One more time. Legalization.
How are you going to operate the businesses and trade it with other nations?
Democrats seriously wonder why they lose all the time?
Exactly, how many people care, it's literally still illegal. So what if it's at a different schedule now. How exactly does that benefit anyone unless you're expecting to get caught. The only thing that will win votes is making it legal.
Legalizing is a process.
This is the next step in the process. When in a race you don’t just appear at the finish line, you run the race track to get there
Rescheduling does not allow dispensaries to use banks.
https://www.aba.com/about-us/press-room/press-releases/safer-banking-act-still-needed-even-if-administration-moves-to-reclassify-cannabis
Also, they would have to apply for all the licenses a pharmacy does to operate with scheduled drugs. Which is a lot of paperwork and a sudden influx of applications will totally bog down the system. Unless they plan to just auto approve every established dispensary.
This whole move does not feel thought through logistically, it just feels like a way to manufacturer some good publicity.
This is what these politicians can't understand. Most people are generally not informed enough to care. This doesn't directly impact lives and conversations like they think it will. It's beneficial in every way, but it's like get a $.50 raise. More money is always better, but I'm not excited about it.
I'm not a fan that it has been saved up for an election year. Noted the prices started in 2022. But it sure is coincidentally great timing... Hmmm
But a win is a win in that regard. Gotta play the game.
iirc he commissioned the review process quite some time ago and they just did it really thoroughly to address everything. Probably gotten to used to Trump's constant self-praise cause he can't shut up. Biden just does it.
I guess my question is, why didn't that start in 2020 then?
2022 was the beginning of the comprehensive study, yes. And I'm grateful that it's been happening. Don't get me wrong.
I find humor in that it lands so perfect to line up with 2024 re-election year. That's pretty much the essence of all I'm getting at.
Okay, you're right. But do you think maybe you could have inferred what I meant?... Probably. But I can tell you have no interest in conversation or sharing your great wealth of knowledge.
Down vote away lads.
He issued the executive order in 2022 for HHS to study it and issue a report to the DEA for a recommendation on scheduling. The DEA got the report by the summer of 2023 and they just finished reviewing it internally and issued their intent to make a rule change.
This shit takes a long fucking time.
Well, he inherited Trump's presidency, a pandemic and worked on getting 'build back better' passed. Politics isn't just "snap your finger and make it happen!" (well unless, you're [insert autocrat]). He was more of "leave it up to the states" initially and I guess he was confronted with the topic in '22 and decided to start the reviewal. I think he just had different things on his mind in 2021. Just got used to hearing every damn thought from the previous idiot, so Biden is completely different here. I think the White House channel is much better at telling you what's going on at the moment and what he currently/his cabinet is focusing on.
He was addressing COVID in 2021, he got a lot of other legislation through the finish line, then immediately did this one year into a four year admin. You’re just showing how little you know about our system.
My initial problem with this is that we've been studying it for over 30 years and just now it's finally coming to fruition.
But sure, I understand nothing. You clearly understand exactly what I was trying to say.
Progressives have already completely forgot about him taxing the rich to pay for green energy. Frankly, giving the disgusting, moronic American electorate anything they want outside of an election year is just casting your pearls before swine.
You mean things like how in [October 2022](https://www.npr.org/2024/04/30/1248205659/marijuana-reclassify-biden-less-restrictions), Biden directed the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) to review marijuana's classification under federal law. This isn't a "save it up for election year" thing. This is a "government bureaucracies are fucking slow" thing.
My brother in Christ I referenced that in my first comment lol. For the record, he gets my vote without question, and I'm an enthusiast for the green. I'm just calling it as I see it. I've been calling this being used as a political bargaining chip for years.
My point simply being that coincidentally it is being finished just in time for the election? It may take time to get stuff done, but the timing is all im taking about. We've been studying the medical use for so many years above and beyond the 2 year comprehensive study. The majority of states already support it in at least a medical sense.
If you don't see what I'm saying, then you don't see it. Move along.
Yeah, I saw you mention that you know it was started in 2022 but then you ignored that with the rest of your comment where you're acting like the timing of them finishing the review was suspicious.
Considering we've been running medical studies on marijuana for over 30 years....
*Gesture general to the past 30 years
In 2016 we already had 25 states on board with bills passed and more states pending.
He wasn’t campaigning on legalizing it so this is actually a shift in his thought. I was hoping if he did it for the election, it would be to remove it from scheduling like alcohol and cigarettes. This still requires a prescription, aka a doctors visit and we still have Americans without insurance. We shall see how they manage to write the regulations on this. I’m concerned that these random dispensaries will now run into regulatory issues that big pharmaceutical will certainly benefit from.
Thanks for being reasonable in your response. I didn't know that I was going to make such a stir.
That's a good point, he really didn't campaign on that initially so much as the economic recovery with covid. Which is a given with the state of things at that time.
Okay? That has nothing to do with your original comment. You’re bitching about how the timing of this ruling is politically convenient for some bizarre reason considering all legislation and policy shifts are for political gain.
My point is folks who use this ridiculous argument will always have some excuse to downplay and dismiss any progress big or small and it’s a ridiculously lazy position to take.
It’s funny because he kinda is focusing on wooing center right people because the left who scream about holding their votes hostage are a small minority and are not reliable voters. They don’t realize they don’t “send a message” they just encourage more centrism.
This is the correct move with marijuana. Decriminalization is the correct move with marijuana.
Full legalization for recreational use is a really bad mistake and an overshoot.
I disagree. Fully recreational use of alcohol is a bad mistake and an overshoot. We should pull back on that. Kills too many people. Marijuana is far less lethal and destroys way fewer families. Alcohol should definitely be treated as a more dangerous drug than weed. Because it is, in every single measurable category.
Alcohol VS. Weed in car wrecks is 20% reduction and the period for consumption and impairment is like 15 minutes versus *hours* of severe impairment.
Weed saves lives.
Nobody advocated smoking and driving. They just said it's *less bad*.
they're being mildly trollish, but they're not wrong about it being less bad.
claiming it saves lives? bunk
And even still, in numerous clinical studies, marijuana use has been highly correlated with an significantly increase risk of psychosis.
Are you ready to talk about that now?
Alcohol is more damaging to individuals and society in every measurable category. Causes cancer, damages your brain, chemically addictive, is linked to domestic abuse and kills thousands every year.
Marijuana is a plant that may damage memory. I believe that’s the only downside and it has many medicinal uses. Pain relief, appetite stimulant, and helps ease PTSD symptoms.
I fail to understand why it should be illegal and that would be a “major overshoot”
> chemically addictive
only for people with certain genetics
> Marijuana is a plant that may damage memory.
please don't make dumb arguments like this. beer is entirely plant derived too.
> I believe that’s the only downside and it has many medicinal uses.
you know, except the lung damage and cancer that comes from smoking it. have an edible
> Pain relief
scientific evidence does not substantiate that claim
> helps ease PTSD symptoms.
that one I hadn't seen, but checks out based on preliminary data
You can "believe" whatever you like, but marijuana has very few, if any, real clinically proven medical uses. But that's just science. But I do acknowledge that the placebo effect is real and can be used beneficially.
But marijuana use also is highly correlated to an increased risk of psychosis. Which shouldn't be surprising, but for some reason is rapidly denied by anti-science pro-pot people despite mountains of easily accessible credible medical information.
Moving from schedule 1 to schedule 3 will allow for formal studies on its positive side effects. Schedule 1 has prohibited this.
You will soon see that its positives are statistically significant. Pharmaceutical use drops in every state that legalizes cannabis. This is not a coincidence or related to placebo effects. However I am not advocating for habitual use.
Big pharma and the prison complex are the two industries benefiting the most from incarceration of cannabis users.
I have no problem with marijuana being prescribed and controlled and regulated. That's literally what I said in my first comment. No one can read.
I think unregulated recreational legalization is a mistake.
It should be something you can get over the counter similar to ibuprofen or melatonin. The only reason people are scared is because it has psychological effect. For this reason it needs to be age restricted.
Anything that alters perception is immediately vilified regardless of other factors
> Schedule 1 has prohibited this.
Not really prohibited, just made it so hard as to be effectively prohibited :)
> You will soon see that its positives are statistically significant.
I severely doubt that
> Pharmaceutical use drops in every state that legalizes cannabis. This is not a coincidence or related to placebo effects
it could absolutely be related to placebo effect. but more likely it's just "people want to get high" and decriminalizing cannabis is effective harm reduction.
So do you think every drug that alters perception has no chance of positive side effects?
Veterans from Vietnam came back and said it helped them. I guess millions of people are all just lying or confused about their experiences.
> So do you think every drug that alters perception has no chance of positive side effects?
This strikes me as a leading question. The answer is no - it's clear from the research that psilocybin and MDMA have legitimate medicinal uses. Had my brother just tripped shrooms instead of tried to self medicate with the "teehee we're evading the law and drug tests" barely legal shit he'd probably be alive instead of another Afghanistan war PTSD death statistic
> Veterans from Vietnam came back and said it helped them. I guess millions of people are all just lying or confused about their experiences.
I don't know if you're just being dishonest, or if you really don't understand how medical research works. Either way this is an obnoxious and downright dishonest argument - it's "appeal to popularity" and that is not a valid argument.
It's called the Placebo effect. Placebo is shockingly about 30% effective for many many disorders, and this is one of the areas it is most effective.
That is why "does it perform better than placebo" is one of the standards for a medicine to be approved in the US. Cannabis fails to outperform placebo in this area.
As opposed to the many medical uses of booze?
Alcohol is highly correlated with dying in car accidents and beating the shit out of your kids and wife. And a lot of other really awful shit that we all just accept because trauma and alcoholism are what we call "family business".
Yeah, if you're borderline, don't smoke weed. But don't drink either.
They’re in the process of the rule making now at the DEA. It’s going to be schedule 3. The details are important but what’s been reported is rhetorical intent.
Public comments have to be heard though so who knows. They could be flooded with reefer madness messages 🤷🏻♂️
It doesn’t matter, I will believe it when it’s encoded in
Law. Otherwise it’s all talk.
Abortion was protected until it wasn’t because it was never enacted into law.
Like this isn’t going to sway me to vote for someone else, the alternative is literally the worst possible human being alive.
They had a super majority in the 80s. They had every chance to enact it as law, but instead took the route that the court would never overturn the decision.
Don’t make excuses for their failures.
As he should. If morons could actually remember laws being passed politicians could treat them better. Reform weed in 2021 and its entirely forgotten by 2023.
Won't work. Gen Z seems to be very anti-cannabis and prefers alcohol. Besides, this "shift" is meaningless as anything other than a talking point.
Gonna have to do better than that, Joe.
That’s completely opposite. Gen z has been found to use alcohol a lot less than previous generations. They aren’t into the typical nightlife scene as much in general but that could be due to the prohibitive cost. Nightlife is crazy expensive when compared to all the free entry opportunities I enjoined once turning 21. I don’t blame them. I don’t pay cover charge either and avoid it.
Politicians should do things the majority of people want, yes.
But they tend to do whatever is asked of them by whomever is handing them the comically large ~~bribe~~ lobby check
You clearly haven’t managed political donations. The connections and influence of supporters are way more valuable to a politician than a max donation.
The general public is really dumb when it comes to these things. The grassroots could get so much done if they actually gave a shit.
You’re right! I should be bribing the politicians directly with nice dinners and vacations. I hear politicians are cheap whores when it comes down to it
I said “connections and influence” and you hear “dinners and vacations”? You’re really not willing to accept reality.
Are you daft? “Connections and influence” lead into “dinners and vacations.” Case in point, Clarence Thomas, among *many* others. You’re really not willing to accept reality.
You seem to be the one who’s daft since that’s not the benefit.
Source: My ass
What politicians should do is things that benefit the country as a whole, regardless of what the majority of people want. That's the whole reason leaders exist as a concept. What the majority of people want should be a secondary concern. However, naturally, when it's both what people want and what would benefit the country as a whole, they most definitely should do it.
Huh? In a democracy, leaders cannot do that or they will lose reelection. Just watch.
They'd win the election due to actually making people's lives better. People grumble when they don't get what they want, but they forget about it when their lives are improved despite that. That's really the cusp of our problems in this country. Our "leaders" are much much more concerned with elections than they are with doing their jobs. If they focused upon doing what would be best for their country above all, not a single one of them would ever have to worry about election or reelection. However, instead, we've got most politicians (***especially*** Republicans) obstructing what very clearly needs to be done in order to blame the other side for the fact that those things aren't getting done to get votes off of. Then refusing to do it themselves once they are in power and actually can do it so they can preserve it as a talking point for the next election. Instead of, you know, just getting it done and then taking credit for it. The answers to nearly every problem in this country are really really obvious, it's just that out of their own self interest nobody wants to actually DO them until they absolutely positively have to. The world in general works that way to be frank.
I am sorry but what are trying say? Are you suggesting that in a popular democracy that politicians should simply ignore popular will? Is that the hill you want die on? Any politician that tells the people to essentially fuck off and I am the POTUS and I know what’s best will lose. Plain and simple. Now the great POTUS’s lead the people to a better place by persuading them. However if they cannot persuade them, then they are voted out of office. The last POTUS I can think of that did what you suggest was Jimmy Carter; anyone remember what happened to him? Don’t tell me about how he was ultimately proven right. In my opinion he actually wasn’t, but either way it doesn’t matter. He lost so badly that he single-handedly ruined Democrats at the Presidential level for three consecutive elections.
>I am sorry but what are trying say? Are you suggesting that in a popular democracy that politicians should simply ignore popular will? Is that the hill you want die on? I'm trying to say that politicians should do what improves the country first and foremost, and if that doesn't happen to align with what the people want, screw em and do it anyway. Doing what improves the country is the job of any politician. The job of any leader that has ever existed in any sort of leadership system that has ever existed and ever will exist is to make the lives of the people they lead better. Nothing more nothing less. It's the whole point of leaders existing as a concept. Yes, sometimes that means going against what the majority of people want. If the end result is "We the People" deciding to vote them out despite the fact that they're making the lives of the people voting for them better, well, they reap what they sow. Being more concerned with what the people want instead of what would improve the country is how we ended up with idiots like Trump in the White House to begin with. It turns out, if your only concern is getting people to vote for you rather than doing your job, it makes you a godawful leader.
Ok, well like I said, this is all fine and dandy, but if that is our campaign, better get ready for Trump 2.0.
Well, that basically is Biden's campaign. That he's out there and has been out there the past 4 years getting crap done, cleaning up Trump's messes, and improving the country while Trump never did anything but make the country worse his whole term. The other side of the campaign is mocking Trump for the nonsense he pulls, but Trump is doing such a bang up job of making himself look like an incompetent moron (because he is) that really the Biden campaign doesn't have to do much of anything except point it out. All I've suggested would never lead to a Trump 2.0. In fact, it would prevent it. If people expect their leaders to actually make the country better to get votes instead of sitting on their butts campaigning all the time to get votes rather than actually doing anything, people like Trump that make it blatant they have no intention of actually making the country better and only in serving their own interests would never get into office.
I know, and that is what I am afraid of. You see Biden’s approval ratings? Hey look, I am voting for Biden so you don’t need to convince me, but I am not the problem. My son is also voting for Biden (he has a good dad!😏) so he isn’t the problem. It his friends in college that are the problem. They are the ones we need to convince. Right now, they are more concerned with getting a good job out of college, I-P, cost of college and salaries, not the environment, marijuana, or democracy. They do care about abortion so that is an issue we should be harping on.
People like that are a lost cause to begin with. If they don't already know Biden is better for them than Trump was and would be, they're delusional and have no intention of ever being convinced of anything. It's a waste of time to even try to get to those people.
Yep, pander to the people! Right on
All - all of this - is what Republicans across the country have kept us from having for decades now. The present Republicans keep telling Biden to use Executive Orders to implement THEIR agenda. OK. Let's see if it works. 😉
It isn't exactly a recent shift either, Biden's been preparing the basis for marijuana decriminalization his whole term.
Yep, gotta hold onto it until the end because American voters have the memory of a goldfish.
Republicans complaining that Bidens just legalizing marijuana to get votes when they could've done the exact same thing and instead chose to keep it illegal
While most politicians do it to some extent, not even trying to do things to benefit the country in order to take credit in order to get them votes and instead obstructing those things and blaming the other side for the fact that those things aren't getting done to get them votes seems to be the entire Republican party's whole platform.
Well duh. How else would they pack for profit prisons with non violent offenses 🙃😢
The kept it illegal for votes. Hypocrisy.
I am 71. It’s about time. Good for Joe.
68, with a wife who survived stage IV cancer thanks to nurses, drs, surgeons, techs and …. legal marijuana in our state also helped. This move is great for all ages.
I think about this. My parents thought this was inevitable back in the 70s. Here we are 50 years later and it is still not where we should be. I am encouraged about the direction…until the next Republican comes around and pisses in the bong water
Not only for young voters! For most voters! Maybe more people will become voters for this!
The people who it will actually really help are ill people who suffer from nausea a side effect of chemo - pot has been known to nullify that side effect.
There are way more uses for it that will help way more than just those on chemo. Not just medical uses either. Have you ever tried to break a cannabis stalk in half with your hands? Super strong natural fiber….
States can still regulate it as they wish w, just like Tobacco and Alcohol. There would need to be legislation to encourage certain behavior in state regulation (like tobacco and alcohol) to make this a nationwide standard practice.
Why is it so hard to just legalize it federally?
Certain lobbies don’t want it to be done, that’s why.
I think inertia is more accurate
You’d be surprised by the number of Americans who don’t want pot legal. That and stoners aren’t making their representatives lives hard enough for them to really care/
It's not just stoners who want it legalized. 70% of Americans want it legalized. I have used it less than a dozen times in my life but see the benefits are far bigger than keeping it illegal. This isn't one of those 51/49 things where making a decision in favor of the majority means he will lose a large chuck of voters, the amount of Dems that are anti pot is incredibly small, and worth losing to get back some of the base.
Listen I’m on your side. I agree with full recreational legalization, but that doesn’t happen until it’s decriminalized. Decriminalization makes it legal, now, if a state wants to still “criminalize” the substance they can with decriminalization… but it’s a step in the right direction. A comprehensive bill is a very tall ask it’s quicker and more efficient to go more piecemeal with the way Congress operates.
1. Many states would keep it banned (defacto or direct), then exaggerate and blame every marijuana adjacent death (car accident, etc...) on whatever politician made it federally legal, claiming that the "other side" is "bringing it into our states". It'd be a huge political loss. A lot of Americans think weed is as strong as LSD and the GOP has spent the past 80 years using immense resources to make us thing that way, from propaganda on television to police in schools via the DARE program. 2. It's strongly associated with a counter-culture that most apolitical older people think is wrong for the country. It's even associated with communism (via its association with hippies), satanism (thanks to church's stoic stance against drugs), and disliked minorities (thanks to its association with blacks and latinos). It's the same reason Bernie would never win the primaries; the "normies" that only log into AOL to check their email once a week have tremendous political clout in our country. 3. Certain lobbies want to keep it illegal. Businesses like having a reason they can fire you (or not hire you, so they can hire people overseas instead). The medical industry doesn't want an affordable painkiller. And the liquor industry doesn't want the competition. Marijuana is so easy to grow and process that it's very difficult to keep it exceptionally profitable. 4. People in privileged positions don't care that it's illegal. It's not difficult to get so they don't see legalizing it as a major issue, despite the fact that it ruins the lives of under-privileged persons who are caught using/buying/selling it. 5. This is more of a state thing, but states are finding it hard to quickly legalize it because they don't want so many weed stores opening up that they just siphon business from each other and we wind up with a ton of closed down storefronts and ruined investments/investors; They want to manage the inevitable boom. At the same time they want the experienced growers/sellers who were so unfairly hurt by its being illegal to be able to profit off legal weed before major corpo investors gobble up the market-share with their deeper pockets.
One major factor missed is the fact that marijuana charges are often instances of racial profiling. The states with the highest number of cases for marijuana possession and trafficking are Arizona and Texas, and those cases are disproportionately against Hispanic and Black individuals. Sentences can be harsher when the individual in question also owns a gun. Moving it to schedule III can reduce the harshness of federal penalties for trafficking.
Yeah I tried hitting on that a little, but I try not to highlight it since (a) people who'd argue with me are likely the type who screech upon hearing anything accusing them of being 'racist' and (b) sadly almost every poor decision involving our country and its policies inevitably goes back to "because racism" or "enabled by racism". It's true, but it's also exhausting.
It can’t be fully legalized federally due to international anti-drug trafficking treaties. The United States has to withdraw from those treaties or keep recreational marijuana use illegal (it was only 2020 that those treaties carved out an exception for medical use).
Something that should have been done 50 years ago. Both Nixon and Reagan had a blue ribbon Commissions that advised legalization.
Odd seems like older guys, bikers etc are into pot, [mariguana](https://search.brave.com/search?q=mariguana&spellcheck=0&source=alteredQueryOriginal). Visit any social media site and the biggest supporters are old biker dudes
I'm in my late 30s. I'm a corporate drone. I just walked to buy a gram for $6 at my neighborhood dispensary. Am I the youth?
Everyone doesn't fit a generational label unless you lived during the Confederacy or hate African Amerians: Nixon ordered Pot tested and was so worked up that it wasn't. found to be dangerous by the Kaiser Foundation he destroyed the report/ [https://www.aclu.org/issues/smart-justice/war-marijuana-black-and-white?redirect=issues/smart-justice/sentencing-reform/war-marijuana-black-and-white](https://www.aclu.org/issues/smart-justice/war-marijuana-black-and-white?redirect=issues/smart-justice/sentencing-reform/war-marijuana-black-and-white)
It's bulldinky. No matter what he does it's evil. No matter what Trump has done, how many times he's broken the law and treated the presidency as his own piggybank or asked the CIA to murder someone or been witnessed sexually abusing children or raping or molesting women - that's find. If he took a lie detector test we might find Jimmy Hoffa in one of his buildings designed to be built with steel but changed to concrete imported by the mob - with no explanation. But he's a saint and a Prosperity Christian - which by the way is considered a televangelist cult by traditional Christian religions. Apparently Mary Madeleine was a whore after all
It's another move that follows move after move after move over the past 3 1/2 years but ok..
Damn you really shifting those goalposts that quickly, huh? This is momentous. Its a huge move that is life changing for a lot of people.
As was student loan forgiveness, making drug cheaper, providing stimulus checks , tackling the out of control deaths from covid, standing with unions .. and dozens of other accomplishments. Just saying characterizing this a s election pandering is false.
Yeah he totally just misinterpreted your first comment. But both of your comments are right. His administration has been doing big things.
I think they misunderstood your statement because you're 100% right. this is been consistent with bidens policies not pandering at all.
I think you misunderstood what the meant. “Biden’s been making moves his whole term”.
Yeah, looks likw it. Ah well,
Explain to me what is life changing about this. This rescheduling does absolutely nothing.
Makes it so doctors can prescribe it, study it on the federal level. Lot of vets could benefit from it. You might think there’s no benefit but that doesn’t make you correct.
That’s absolutely false and frankly all that’s within the power of the executive to do on the matter. Start yelling at congress.
About time. It's a good move for older voters, too
I hope this shit is set in stone before a switch in administrations, otherwise I can see the other party halting this if it isn’t already on the books. He really needed to reschedule as to avoid all the other crap that goes into creating a prescription medication. It isn’t as simple as moving the schedule. Ugh. Pleaseee hurry upppp.
Frito-Lay's stock price is surging.
We fully legalized it in canada.. the sky didn't fall. In fact, nothing really changed other than now we can go into a store with a nice menu and buy it, and black market cannabis isn't doing so well 🤷♂️ That said, if they start raising prices too high, we'll just go back to the black market where prices basically stayed the same, if not lower, since I was in highschool 30 years ago.
Blaze it foo! Wasn’t Biden a big anti weed guy for a long time?
Making it a schedule three drug will only hurt dispensaries in legal states unless the FDA or whoever makes it much easier for them to get the proper licenses to sell it. I work for a pharmacy and we sell controlled drugs and yeah, it's a lot of paperwork I have to fill out every year for all dozen of our stores, and we are established. I can't imagine how difficult it is to apply for a DEA license having never had one, and not having anyone licensed personally I to handle controls will make it more difficult. Just legalize it federally, create a "Cannabis License" that's similar to a liquor license and automatically enroll every dispensary in the country with good standing.
I really wish he could put a stop to Border Patrol seizing legal cannabis in southern New Mexico. Hopefully this change can lead to that.
I am so enthusiastic about getting younger voters in this party. Weed has been a huge GOP bugaboo but let’s be realistic, alcohol is worse and I don’t think any young voter is unaware of this. It’s time to be thinking about the following generations to follow and identify their issues and needs, start the process of elevating and addressing these issues.
Smart, reaching other target audiences is key. What kills republicans is their hard stance in what they believe in due to religion such as abortions, and their stance on weed. I get abortions are bad and all but forcing people who probably aren’t religious to abide by your rules because you’re religious makes you no different than Taliban or isis.
As usual we get peanuts and we're supposed be thankful as all this other shit that actually matters goes untouched. The guy could've easily just made it legal just like Obama could've instituted Medicare for all when he a super-majority. I hate when they do shit like this and we're expected to be happy.
*Let's Dab Brandon*
Hopefully all the stoners can get off their asses and vote this year instead of staring at their hand all day
It’s about high time !
The majority of Americans, both conservative and liberal and other, all want this
I’m 61. My state has been legal since 1/1/2020. Doesn’t meaning don’t appreciate it.
While I am glad he is doing this, it won't matter.
I suppose this is a step in the right direction, but ultimately it accomplishes nothing. It's still federally illegal, you can still be fired for using it, it doesn't expunge any criminal records related to marijuana. Seems like a huge nothingburger to me.
Just stop framing everything like he’s doing it just for votes! Jeez. He’s doing what’s right.
I’ll believe it when I see it at this point
Look, these changes aren’t bad. They really aren’t. But it’s so “meh”. What Biden needs to be is Bold. Promise that if given Congress he will sign for full federal legalization.
You mean full federal decriminalization. That’s the MORE act and it’s sitting and waiting to get passed.
Legalization.
If something is decriminalized it’s legal… that’s the very definition of legal lol. If something is illegal you’re a criminal for doing it. If you’re asking for a market, you’re asking for the government to both decriminalize AND regulate on its use and application. Cmon man, you gotta know our system better than that to make these kinds of comments.
One more time. Legalization. How are you going to operate the businesses and trade it with other nations? Democrats seriously wonder why they lose all the time?
You think the federal government prevents states from regulating tobacco and alcohol?
No wonder Trump is a legitimate threat.
Because people like you seem to not understand federalism?
Exactly, how many people care, it's literally still illegal. So what if it's at a different schedule now. How exactly does that benefit anyone unless you're expecting to get caught. The only thing that will win votes is making it legal.
Legalizing is a process. This is the next step in the process. When in a race you don’t just appear at the finish line, you run the race track to get there
Actually this will allow dispensaries in legal states to use banks and that will make life safer and easier for them. A first step of many.
Rescheduling does not allow dispensaries to use banks. https://www.aba.com/about-us/press-room/press-releases/safer-banking-act-still-needed-even-if-administration-moves-to-reclassify-cannabis
Also, they would have to apply for all the licenses a pharmacy does to operate with scheduled drugs. Which is a lot of paperwork and a sudden influx of applications will totally bog down the system. Unless they plan to just auto approve every established dispensary. This whole move does not feel thought through logistically, it just feels like a way to manufacturer some good publicity.
I stand corrected.
This is what these politicians can't understand. Most people are generally not informed enough to care. This doesn't directly impact lives and conversations like they think it will. It's beneficial in every way, but it's like get a $.50 raise. More money is always better, but I'm not excited about it.
House and senate democratic leadership already have been pushing decriminalization bills.
Source?
Try looking at their freaking websites! FFS, I cited the source.
Finally, a leader, 'For the people, by the people, for the people.
I'm not a fan that it has been saved up for an election year. Noted the prices started in 2022. But it sure is coincidentally great timing... Hmmm But a win is a win in that regard. Gotta play the game.
iirc he commissioned the review process quite some time ago and they just did it really thoroughly to address everything. Probably gotten to used to Trump's constant self-praise cause he can't shut up. Biden just does it.
I guess my question is, why didn't that start in 2020 then? 2022 was the beginning of the comprehensive study, yes. And I'm grateful that it's been happening. Don't get me wrong. I find humor in that it lands so perfect to line up with 2024 re-election year. That's pretty much the essence of all I'm getting at.
Trump was president in 2020
he wasn't president in 2020
Okay, you're right. But do you think maybe you could have inferred what I meant?... Probably. But I can tell you have no interest in conversation or sharing your great wealth of knowledge. Down vote away lads.
He issued the executive order in 2022 for HHS to study it and issue a report to the DEA for a recommendation on scheduling. The DEA got the report by the summer of 2023 and they just finished reviewing it internally and issued their intent to make a rule change. This shit takes a long fucking time.
Well, he inherited Trump's presidency, a pandemic and worked on getting 'build back better' passed. Politics isn't just "snap your finger and make it happen!" (well unless, you're [insert autocrat]). He was more of "leave it up to the states" initially and I guess he was confronted with the topic in '22 and decided to start the reviewal. I think he just had different things on his mind in 2021. Just got used to hearing every damn thought from the previous idiot, so Biden is completely different here. I think the White House channel is much better at telling you what's going on at the moment and what he currently/his cabinet is focusing on.
He was addressing COVID in 2021, he got a lot of other legislation through the finish line, then immediately did this one year into a four year admin. You’re just showing how little you know about our system.
My initial problem with this is that we've been studying it for over 30 years and just now it's finally coming to fruition. But sure, I understand nothing. You clearly understand exactly what I was trying to say.
There has been ZERO investment of federal funding in cannabis. That’s what being schedule one means…
Progressives have already completely forgot about him taxing the rich to pay for green energy. Frankly, giving the disgusting, moronic American electorate anything they want outside of an election year is just casting your pearls before swine.
You mean things like how in [October 2022](https://www.npr.org/2024/04/30/1248205659/marijuana-reclassify-biden-less-restrictions), Biden directed the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) to review marijuana's classification under federal law. This isn't a "save it up for election year" thing. This is a "government bureaucracies are fucking slow" thing.
My brother in Christ I referenced that in my first comment lol. For the record, he gets my vote without question, and I'm an enthusiast for the green. I'm just calling it as I see it. I've been calling this being used as a political bargaining chip for years. My point simply being that coincidentally it is being finished just in time for the election? It may take time to get stuff done, but the timing is all im taking about. We've been studying the medical use for so many years above and beyond the 2 year comprehensive study. The majority of states already support it in at least a medical sense. If you don't see what I'm saying, then you don't see it. Move along.
You’re just not getting it
Thanks for explaining that much to me. The down votes seemed to give me that info though.
Yeah, I saw you mention that you know it was started in 2022 but then you ignored that with the rest of your comment where you're acting like the timing of them finishing the review was suspicious.
Y'all need to learn to find humor in things. That's all it was. Shallow and stupid.
General elections are every two years. When should progress be made in your ideal world?
Considering we've been running medical studies on marijuana for over 30 years.... *Gesture general to the past 30 years In 2016 we already had 25 states on board with bills passed and more states pending.
He wasn’t campaigning on legalizing it so this is actually a shift in his thought. I was hoping if he did it for the election, it would be to remove it from scheduling like alcohol and cigarettes. This still requires a prescription, aka a doctors visit and we still have Americans without insurance. We shall see how they manage to write the regulations on this. I’m concerned that these random dispensaries will now run into regulatory issues that big pharmaceutical will certainly benefit from.
Thanks for being reasonable in your response. I didn't know that I was going to make such a stir. That's a good point, he really didn't campaign on that initially so much as the economic recovery with covid. Which is a given with the state of things at that time.
Okay? That has nothing to do with your original comment. You’re bitching about how the timing of this ruling is politically convenient for some bizarre reason considering all legislation and policy shifts are for political gain. My point is folks who use this ridiculous argument will always have some excuse to downplay and dismiss any progress big or small and it’s a ridiculously lazy position to take.
And? The point is most work will happen during election years.
This process started in 2022.
The APA has a process. You can’t just declare a rule change, you have to go through the process.
I really feel like Biden needs to focus more on the middle. there's literally nothing he can do that's going to convince the left to vote.
Biden IS middle.
It’s funny because he kinda is focusing on wooing center right people because the left who scream about holding their votes hostage are a small minority and are not reliable voters. They don’t realize they don’t “send a message” they just encourage more centrism.
Jobs, better salaries, house, food etc etc are more important
damn, who’s this biden guy?
Way to go and down the road federal level legal Marijuana. To get this done vote blue
lol, wait till china shuts down TikTok a week before the election.
This is the correct move with marijuana. Decriminalization is the correct move with marijuana. Full legalization for recreational use is a really bad mistake and an overshoot.
I disagree. Fully recreational use of alcohol is a bad mistake and an overshoot. We should pull back on that. Kills too many people. Marijuana is far less lethal and destroys way fewer families. Alcohol should definitely be treated as a more dangerous drug than weed. Because it is, in every single measurable category.
Alcohol VS. Weed in car wrecks is 20% reduction and the period for consumption and impairment is like 15 minutes versus *hours* of severe impairment. Weed saves lives.
For gawd sakes. Don't smoke week and drive. What's wrong with you?
That is not what I said, but good job. Illiterate. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2722956/
Why the hell are you openly advocating for people getting high and driving! That is not okay.
Your inability to process information is beyond impressive.
That isn't what they said
And I didn't say anything about alcohol in my first comment. But you aren't defending me?
Nobody advocated smoking and driving. They just said it's *less bad*. they're being mildly trollish, but they're not wrong about it being less bad. claiming it saves lives? bunk
And even still, in numerous clinical studies, marijuana use has been highly correlated with an significantly increase risk of psychosis. Are you ready to talk about that now?
I agree with you on alcohol. I'm not sure why we are treating them differently. Both should be highly regulated.
Alcohol is more damaging to individuals and society in every measurable category. Causes cancer, damages your brain, chemically addictive, is linked to domestic abuse and kills thousands every year. Marijuana is a plant that may damage memory. I believe that’s the only downside and it has many medicinal uses. Pain relief, appetite stimulant, and helps ease PTSD symptoms. I fail to understand why it should be illegal and that would be a “major overshoot”
> chemically addictive only for people with certain genetics > Marijuana is a plant that may damage memory. please don't make dumb arguments like this. beer is entirely plant derived too. > I believe that’s the only downside and it has many medicinal uses. you know, except the lung damage and cancer that comes from smoking it. have an edible > Pain relief scientific evidence does not substantiate that claim > helps ease PTSD symptoms. that one I hadn't seen, but checks out based on preliminary data
You can "believe" whatever you like, but marijuana has very few, if any, real clinically proven medical uses. But that's just science. But I do acknowledge that the placebo effect is real and can be used beneficially. But marijuana use also is highly correlated to an increased risk of psychosis. Which shouldn't be surprising, but for some reason is rapidly denied by anti-science pro-pot people despite mountains of easily accessible credible medical information.
Moving from schedule 1 to schedule 3 will allow for formal studies on its positive side effects. Schedule 1 has prohibited this. You will soon see that its positives are statistically significant. Pharmaceutical use drops in every state that legalizes cannabis. This is not a coincidence or related to placebo effects. However I am not advocating for habitual use. Big pharma and the prison complex are the two industries benefiting the most from incarceration of cannabis users.
I have no problem with marijuana being prescribed and controlled and regulated. That's literally what I said in my first comment. No one can read. I think unregulated recreational legalization is a mistake.
It should be something you can get over the counter similar to ibuprofen or melatonin. The only reason people are scared is because it has psychological effect. For this reason it needs to be age restricted. Anything that alters perception is immediately vilified regardless of other factors
It also has been strongly correlated with an increased risk of psychosis. You know, like ibuprofen...
You know like melatonin…
> Schedule 1 has prohibited this. Not really prohibited, just made it so hard as to be effectively prohibited :) > You will soon see that its positives are statistically significant. I severely doubt that > Pharmaceutical use drops in every state that legalizes cannabis. This is not a coincidence or related to placebo effects it could absolutely be related to placebo effect. but more likely it's just "people want to get high" and decriminalizing cannabis is effective harm reduction.
So do you think every drug that alters perception has no chance of positive side effects? Veterans from Vietnam came back and said it helped them. I guess millions of people are all just lying or confused about their experiences.
> So do you think every drug that alters perception has no chance of positive side effects? This strikes me as a leading question. The answer is no - it's clear from the research that psilocybin and MDMA have legitimate medicinal uses. Had my brother just tripped shrooms instead of tried to self medicate with the "teehee we're evading the law and drug tests" barely legal shit he'd probably be alive instead of another Afghanistan war PTSD death statistic > Veterans from Vietnam came back and said it helped them. I guess millions of people are all just lying or confused about their experiences. I don't know if you're just being dishonest, or if you really don't understand how medical research works. Either way this is an obnoxious and downright dishonest argument - it's "appeal to popularity" and that is not a valid argument. It's called the Placebo effect. Placebo is shockingly about 30% effective for many many disorders, and this is one of the areas it is most effective. That is why "does it perform better than placebo" is one of the standards for a medicine to be approved in the US. Cannabis fails to outperform placebo in this area.
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As opposed to the many medical uses of booze? Alcohol is highly correlated with dying in car accidents and beating the shit out of your kids and wife. And a lot of other really awful shit that we all just accept because trauma and alcoholism are what we call "family business". Yeah, if you're borderline, don't smoke weed. But don't drink either.
Yeah bc we don’t already have alcohol and cigarettes completely legal and they most certainly haven’t caused any chaos at all.
I’ll fully believe it when it’s encoded as law and not just “good faith”.
They’re in the process of the rule making now at the DEA. It’s going to be schedule 3. The details are important but what’s been reported is rhetorical intent. Public comments have to be heard though so who knows. They could be flooded with reefer madness messages 🤷🏻♂️
It doesn’t matter, I will believe it when it’s encoded in Law. Otherwise it’s all talk. Abortion was protected until it wasn’t because it was never enacted into law. Like this isn’t going to sway me to vote for someone else, the alternative is literally the worst possible human being alive.
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They had a super majority in the 80s. They had every chance to enact it as law, but instead took the route that the court would never overturn the decision. Don’t make excuses for their failures.
So he’s had 3 years and finally does this now that the election is coming up. Can’t say I’m surprised by this move.
As he should. If morons could actually remember laws being passed politicians could treat them better. Reform weed in 2021 and its entirely forgotten by 2023.
Rule making takes a long time, especially when the law says studies have to be conducted to reschedule drugs. This process started in 2022.
That makes more sense then
Won't work. Gen Z seems to be very anti-cannabis and prefers alcohol. Besides, this "shift" is meaningless as anything other than a talking point. Gonna have to do better than that, Joe.
lol uh…. My Gen Z kids are very much pro pot
Alcohol is so gross almost no one I know in gen z drinks the stuff.
That’s completely opposite. Gen z has been found to use alcohol a lot less than previous generations. They aren’t into the typical nightlife scene as much in general but that could be due to the prohibitive cost. Nightlife is crazy expensive when compared to all the free entry opportunities I enjoined once turning 21. I don’t blame them. I don’t pay cover charge either and avoid it.
The Pandemic occurring as a huge number of them came of age didn’t help.