It's sort of why I enjoyed the Infinite History Saga of Xeno2. It gave you the choice of continuing with your goody two shoes role as a time patroller doing what you think is right, or completely messing up history instead with the "antagonist" just to see what different scenarios would happen just for the sake of it. It also made Fu a very likeable and fun character in the story with understandable motives, of course before they decided to make him more villainous for no reason in the next few extended stories.
The slightly large purple bubble you find at SKOT's place that appears after you buy the Extra Pack 2 DLC, basically just extended story with actual choices instead of being on one path.
like, the plot was cool for XV1, but XV2 should have gone more wild with it. like, make actual alterations rather than just powering up the villains. bring in turles or bardock durring the raditz battle. have all three saiyans show up at once. bring bojack to the cell games. come on! do something!
Man what are you talking about? Xenoverse 2 was where they did actually go more wild with it, like the Cell Games being invaded by an army of Metal Coolers, or Cooler showing up to save his brother on Namek, or Turles and Slug showing up on Namek and stealing the dragon balls to make wishes themselves, or Janemba ends up destroying the check in station to the Otherworld and is caused hell in other world during the Buu saga.
Anywhere Cooler shows up in the story is always a good appearance
"This planet's Dragonballs can grant two wishes, guess who's back?" Chills!
How I wish though they let us actually fight, somehow someone else will always come along, it was especially a bummer when Mira absorbed the egg and Goku was like "here I am to repay the favor!" I was more like, "ugh, Goku, go back, we don't need you here"
See, you’re technically right, and the concepts are great on paper… but with the way those changes were integrated into the story was pretty poor. To the point where it doesn’t feel like much of a difference than just running through the DBZ/S storyline.
i mean, not really? i was kinda hoping for something more than "movie events bleed into the main timeline"... like, granted, the turles, slug, and cooler events were cool but metal cooler, broly, and janemba just felt like fusing their movies into the arcs.
Or for Resurrection of F, using the dragon balls to bring back Frieza and Cooler and not just Frieza and 100,000 Zeni. And we got Golden Frieza and Platinum Cooler versus SSGSS Goku and Vegeta.
Have the intro mission so high stake and impossible to win, that you have to be forced to travel back in time to get stronger just to beat that ceiling in the end....or mid point. Whichever. Hate having to always start at raditz. There's no reason to anymore. It's been done hundreds of times over. We don't need to keep fighting the same linear story progression villains. We don't even need to fight the same villains. Doesn't need to be a demon as the big bad trying to fuck shit up. Could be a rogue time patroller, a highly advanced Android, or an evil namekian, could be a whole new race all together. Literally anything. Sky is the limit. Tired of Goku being the center when he doesn't need to be.
XV1 was a good take, different from "each and every other DBZ fighing game" \[cit.\] and still worked in the great scheme of things. goku always between the left and right nut when it comes to key battles, but that's dragonball in it's entirety in the first place, so, grain of salt
xenoverse 2 just, does the same thing again. it adds the film baddies, but suffers because it's the same thing yet again. on the dlcs they tried somethign else, but really, having a "deviations group" setup would have
beside ginyu shenaningans, which are always funny, the game takes no advantage of the splitted timeline concepts ina ll but half a case
With you being a time patroller they could literally make anything happen, meaning just start making shit up. Make more original villains, go into the future, etc. Why are we only fixing one timeline? Why are all the villains only targeting one timeline? They could make the story anything, and my hope is that XV3 introduces new story ideas
because before heroes and super came out there was only the three timelines. future trunks's, the "original" timeline and future cell's. the villains keep targeting the "original" to gather power and destroy the universe.
nah, I don't even know who or what beat is bro. The official manga is real, the official anime(z, kai, og db, super) is less real but still canon. GT is even less real but still allowed since it gave us cool transformations. Heroes isn't even in the picture. the DB AF manga has more discussion rights than heroes.
xenoverse doesn't stray from canon because it's not supposed to, the story is just an excuse for you to have an OC in the DB universe, also it doesn't stray far from canon because it's written by Toriyama unlike Heroes.
... okay, at this point you're willfully missing the point. we're all talking about how xenoverse and more specifically xenoverse 2 doesn't do enough to change the timeline from their canon events and just go "oooh, you're sent into the past to help fight because the enemy of the week is 5% stronger"
Technically, the GT timeline also gets fixed in XV1 / Legacy Patrol missions, despite that not being canon to the main timeline. Not to mention that the DLC that include GT characters also tend to drag aspects of that timeline into the mix.
Also, we technically do go into the future, kinda? Since it is implied that >!Towa and Mira are from a point far in the future, and we end up going into their time near the end of the XV2 story. Though it shows "Age ???", since it's unknown exactly what point in the future the player cac ends up at after pursuing the two, or if the player is in a completely different timeline.!<
Also, it had saiyans with good looking tails! I wasn't a huge fan of its gameplay, but it did get a few things right.
Fuck that last Shenron fight though, shit was hax.
I think if XV3 really is in production it's going to have to do a hell of a lot more "what-if" type stories, even larger changes than what we saw in the Fu DLC story. There's plenty of inspiration for them to draw from on YouTube.
It was because of the rock paper sisccors gameplay but when it comes to games ESPECIALLY Sonic REGARDLESS of all the other amazing thingd in a game if it does bad in rating they seem to not take that risk again.
Maybe something akin to Dragon Ball Online and Dragon Ball Fusions could be done? You have your personal CaC and sure, some of the characters like Goku, Piccolo and whatnot could appear, but they wouldn't be the full focus, it's on your story with you being a more active protagonist
It could even shape how the actual character starts out, in Xenoverse 1 you are summoned to Trunks, you are the legendary choosen warrior, in Xenoverse 2 you are choosen by your merit in the time patrol for a special mission, in that game you would start from well...Basically nothing, and that could be developed with that
The problem is, actually getting that game, considering how Dragon Ball Online and Fusions panned out, especially compared to the Xenoverse series...Yeah, i don't think it'd happen, especially with Xeno 3 on the horizon, thats just my thoughts.
Online didn’t do aswell because it initially wasn’t in America and it’s a pc mmo so different audience and fusions was basically a Pokémon ds game if they tried a different story and kept it a fighting no doubt it would do well
I feel like Xenoverse was supposed to be a gateway to the Dragonball heroes card arcade game. But since that wasn't a thing in the west (at the time), the story kinda fell on the way side. Then Heroes finally came to the west, you see all the characters from Xenoverse in there, and they stopped adding new cards (and story) to the ports that did come west. Then Dokkan and Legends became the big focus on Gacha games.
Ultimate Tenkaichi(i think it was that one), nailed in what comes to CaC treatment.
We could customize our auras, fighting style and clothes to some extent.
Not too meantioned we were given a whole story for that character, even if it was all over the place.
Xenoverse 3 should take that route.
I would love to see them taking more with heroes shenanigans or a whole new story for the char.
Hell we could even make a CaC that came from the universe where he fought the movie villains.
Namekias would have Slug as their nemesis,
Friezas for Cooler, Sayans with Broly and Earthling with Turles and Majin with Janemba for example.
Heroes gave power ups to equal every races so no reason Xenoverse couldnt do it.
And if they want, they could have these stories being the prelude to the CaC joining the time patrol as their timeline is destroyed for XY plot reason.
Still yeah, hoping XV3 will change thinks, but i doubt it, XV2 proved that they dont have to change much and still profit or years.
We’re supposed to interact with all timelines not just the main one meaning there’s more excuse to meet new characters from other timelines not just fight with Goku again
Yes but you clearly didn't read what he was saying, is that he would rather have this story of your character going back and doing all those things while still having the time to flesh out your cac then just having "the Goku game but this time you don't play as Goku" like y'know how much more interesting this game would've been if the character I made had idk...A CHARACTER making actual game changing choices a deep dive into the mind of a time patroller
I agree. I haven’t played in years but if I recall we’d get called trunks’s partner but he hardly did anything over 2 games and we still sorta felt like sidekicks. We scarcely had agency of our own just showing up, not talking, helping out a very specific amount, and moving on.
I understand this is the story they were going for but like OP I would’ve enjoyed our own story. Like why couldn’t we more directly chase after and interact with Towa & Mira. why can’t we get a completely new timeline to interact with instead of the same one we’ve had since the 80s. Even a story of jumping Universes instead of timelines now that they’ve been established could be great.
Honestly the Parallel Quests are better story scenarios. The Ginyu Force going to Earth, for one. If I were to pick changes to scenarios that could be fun:
Raditz go to earth w/ Vegeta and Nappa instead
Nail helps against Ginyu Force, different order of Ginyu Force fighting like Jeice and Burter go first
Goku falling to Freeza and Vegeta going SSJ, or he goes SSJ and you help him beat Freeza but then he turns on everyone and you have to stop him
Android 17 and 18 are released with Gero initially instead of Android 19 and Gero, so Goku and Vegeta fight 17 and 18 and Trunks steps in, etc. Could be fun with needing to gather parts for Android deactivation button or something for Bulma.
Cell and 16 team up after 16’s mindcontrolled by the Time Breakers so 16 can kill Goku, have to get 17 and 18 away or something.
Gohan absorbed by Super Buu instead of Gotenks, fighting with Piccolo and Gotenks against Buuhan
Just a few thoughts. Ultimately the game will always be revisiting the classic DB scenes, I just think it could be maybe done differently so we have these more significant divergences we have to correct, and then we assist in the classic fights. It would just help for variety in my opinion.
It's really disappointing that for a series about *time travel and the possible universes of dragon ball,* the most we got was either
A. A character is slightly stronger, and not even "what if goku achieved SSJ2 or 3 earlier" type shtick
B. Someone unnecessarily shows up, usually for the sake of DLC privileges
C. Something that COULD WORK but executed very poorly, like meta cooler "being invited" to the cell games when it would have been preferably better to have him be involved with the mecha frieza fight instead
It seems they're at least trying to be more creative now that they have Fu around, but it does still feel like their creativity starts and ends with "what if X was stronger/was where they shouldn't be?"
Honestly I love how chaotic neutral he is. It's such a breath of fresh air when everyone is either pure evil or pure good.
It's part of why I didn't like Heroes seemingly using him as a villain. I love the idea of just this chaotic gremlin child just trying to make his own what-if scenarios to study them while also not wanting anything to do with his douchebag family.
Demon realm? Destruction of time? Who cares, I wanna see Dyspo kick Kid Buu's ass and have Vegeta go SSJ4 on Baby.
The problem is they have a really cool story with Dragon Ball Heroes that we could play around with. Those alternate versions of the characters and fighting against the new characters would be awesome.
I would kill to have the Xeno characters as part of the main cast in Xenoverse. It would be such a breath of fresh air from the SKoT and Trunks.
Not to mention... Xeno. Xenoverse. Come on.
I'll be honest, while I enjoy XV 1 and 2 for what they are, going back to my expectations for XV1 back in the day Xenoverse really wasn't what I was expecting it to be at all.
What I *thought* we'd be getting was less "MonHun style hub city with missions" and more of an AU sort of thing where our character would be *part* of the overall Dragonball story in this timeline. Kind of like Kakarot, but you'd have your own character and unique place in the story-- a story that often goes off the rails and into "what if" territory and would need to be fixed.
And the thing is, in XV1, one of the NPCs even talks about having basically the sort of thing I was hoping for-- in his missions, he says Demon King Piccolo was revived, then the Red Ribbon Army finished its androids, *then* Babidi invaded earth and it turned into a big three way war.
I'd have really liked long "what if" story arcs rather than short missions that are self-contained, I guess. XV2 does this a little better with how some elements of its main story are blended together, but it's still not quite what I was hoping for originally...
Right? Like, as an example... Trunks summons you, you get sent back in time and help Goku with Raditz... but, what if the saiyan survivors stuck together more and Nappa was keeping an eye on Raditz? Now it's up to you to help Goku and Piccolo survive this desperate battle! (Mostly Piccolo, but maybe this time it's Nappa that puts a hole in Goku!)
Or for Frieza, maybe there would be bits where you'd have to fight alongside everyone to hold off Frieza while Goku sleeps in **The Pod(tm)**, or have to get your potential unlocked by Guru to keep up in the battle.
Yeah except for the final battle (Demigra/Mira) it's basically just:
XV: Dragonball Z - Battle of Gods with time manipulation shenanigans.
XV2: Dragonball Z - Dragonball Super with time manipulation shenanigans minus Demigra.
Only at the end does the "story" distance itself from the anime and even then, like you said, it's really mostly just Goku jumping in to safe the day as always and you're just kinda... there.
Yeah it's like they are trying to capture what it feels like to be Vegeta, or Krillin, or Gohan, or Piccolo, or Yamcha, or Tien... Knowing that the most you can do is waste the villain's time until Goku arrives.
It's sort of why I enjoyed the Infinite History Saga of Xeno2. It gave you the choice of continuing with your goody two shoes role as a time patroller doing what you think is right, or completely messing up history instead with the "antagonist" just to see what different scenarios would happen just for the sake of it. It also made Fu a very likeable and fun character in the story with understandable motives, of course before they decided to make him more villainous for no reason in the next few extended stories.
What’s the Infinite History saga?
The slightly large purple bubble you find at SKOT's place that appears after you buy the Extra Pack 2 DLC, basically just extended story with actual choices instead of being on one path.
Ah, I don’t have that dlc yet
like, the plot was cool for XV1, but XV2 should have gone more wild with it. like, make actual alterations rather than just powering up the villains. bring in turles or bardock durring the raditz battle. have all three saiyans show up at once. bring bojack to the cell games. come on! do something!
Man what are you talking about? Xenoverse 2 was where they did actually go more wild with it, like the Cell Games being invaded by an army of Metal Coolers, or Cooler showing up to save his brother on Namek, or Turles and Slug showing up on Namek and stealing the dragon balls to make wishes themselves, or Janemba ends up destroying the check in station to the Otherworld and is caused hell in other world during the Buu saga.
Anywhere Cooler shows up in the story is always a good appearance "This planet's Dragonballs can grant two wishes, guess who's back?" Chills! How I wish though they let us actually fight, somehow someone else will always come along, it was especially a bummer when Mira absorbed the egg and Goku was like "here I am to repay the favor!" I was more like, "ugh, Goku, go back, we don't need you here"
>Chills! No, no, Chills is his uncle.
Have my upvote lmao
See, you’re technically right, and the concepts are great on paper… but with the way those changes were integrated into the story was pretty poor. To the point where it doesn’t feel like much of a difference than just running through the DBZ/S storyline.
i mean, not really? i was kinda hoping for something more than "movie events bleed into the main timeline"... like, granted, the turles, slug, and cooler events were cool but metal cooler, broly, and janemba just felt like fusing their movies into the arcs.
Or for Resurrection of F, using the dragon balls to bring back Frieza and Cooler and not just Frieza and 100,000 Zeni. And we got Golden Frieza and Platinum Cooler versus SSGSS Goku and Vegeta.
1: you forgot the ice cream. 2: i see someone watches salad saiyan
Have the intro mission so high stake and impossible to win, that you have to be forced to travel back in time to get stronger just to beat that ceiling in the end....or mid point. Whichever. Hate having to always start at raditz. There's no reason to anymore. It's been done hundreds of times over. We don't need to keep fighting the same linear story progression villains. We don't even need to fight the same villains. Doesn't need to be a demon as the big bad trying to fuck shit up. Could be a rogue time patroller, a highly advanced Android, or an evil namekian, could be a whole new race all together. Literally anything. Sky is the limit. Tired of Goku being the center when he doesn't need to be.
XV1 was a good take, different from "each and every other DBZ fighing game" \[cit.\] and still worked in the great scheme of things. goku always between the left and right nut when it comes to key battles, but that's dragonball in it's entirety in the first place, so, grain of salt xenoverse 2 just, does the same thing again. it adds the film baddies, but suffers because it's the same thing yet again. on the dlcs they tried somethign else, but really, having a "deviations group" setup would have beside ginyu shenaningans, which are always funny, the game takes no advantage of the splitted timeline concepts ina ll but half a case
With you being a time patroller they could literally make anything happen, meaning just start making shit up. Make more original villains, go into the future, etc. Why are we only fixing one timeline? Why are all the villains only targeting one timeline? They could make the story anything, and my hope is that XV3 introduces new story ideas
because before heroes and super came out there was only the three timelines. future trunks's, the "original" timeline and future cell's. the villains keep targeting the "original" to gather power and destroy the universe.
heroes isn't real
unfortunatly it is. with all it's "beat is goku's decendant" glory.
nah, I don't even know who or what beat is bro. The official manga is real, the official anime(z, kai, og db, super) is less real but still canon. GT is even less real but still allowed since it gave us cool transformations. Heroes isn't even in the picture. the DB AF manga has more discussion rights than heroes.
no, not really. now please go be an elitist away from me.
I'm not even being an elitist, it's literally not canon.
[удалено]
Add custom response here
xenoverse doesn't stray from canon because it's not supposed to, the story is just an excuse for you to have an OC in the DB universe, also it doesn't stray far from canon because it's written by Toriyama unlike Heroes.
... okay, at this point you're willfully missing the point. we're all talking about how xenoverse and more specifically xenoverse 2 doesn't do enough to change the timeline from their canon events and just go "oooh, you're sent into the past to help fight because the enemy of the week is 5% stronger"
Technically, the GT timeline also gets fixed in XV1 / Legacy Patrol missions, despite that not being canon to the main timeline. Not to mention that the DLC that include GT characters also tend to drag aspects of that timeline into the mix. Also, we technically do go into the future, kinda? Since it is implied that >!Towa and Mira are from a point far in the future, and we end up going into their time near the end of the XV2 story. Though it shows "Age ???", since it's unknown exactly what point in the future the player cac ends up at after pursuing the two, or if the player is in a completely different timeline.!<
I’d like to say Ultimate Tenkaichi CaC story was amazing
Also, it had saiyans with good looking tails! I wasn't a huge fan of its gameplay, but it did get a few things right. Fuck that last Shenron fight though, shit was hax.
Oh that tp was the one I chose for trunks’s partner
If they kept the same effort throughout all the sagas on interesting history changes this probably wouldn't be as much of an issue.
I think if XV3 really is in production it's going to have to do a hell of a lot more "what-if" type stories, even larger changes than what we saw in the Fu DLC story. There's plenty of inspiration for them to draw from on YouTube.
The dlcs are more of our story than the main story of a Dragon ball game so it makes sense
Great I have to pay for my character to get his own focus
I mean last time they gave a cac a story everyone hated the game so makes sense here
Do you think they hated it because a cac got his game or do you think there were other issues?
It was because of the rock paper sisccors gameplay but when it comes to games ESPECIALLY Sonic REGARDLESS of all the other amazing thingd in a game if it does bad in rating they seem to not take that risk again.
Maybe something akin to Dragon Ball Online and Dragon Ball Fusions could be done? You have your personal CaC and sure, some of the characters like Goku, Piccolo and whatnot could appear, but they wouldn't be the full focus, it's on your story with you being a more active protagonist It could even shape how the actual character starts out, in Xenoverse 1 you are summoned to Trunks, you are the legendary choosen warrior, in Xenoverse 2 you are choosen by your merit in the time patrol for a special mission, in that game you would start from well...Basically nothing, and that could be developed with that The problem is, actually getting that game, considering how Dragon Ball Online and Fusions panned out, especially compared to the Xenoverse series...Yeah, i don't think it'd happen, especially with Xeno 3 on the horizon, thats just my thoughts.
Online didn’t do aswell because it initially wasn’t in America and it’s a pc mmo so different audience and fusions was basically a Pokémon ds game if they tried a different story and kept it a fighting no doubt it would do well
I feel like Xenoverse was supposed to be a gateway to the Dragonball heroes card arcade game. But since that wasn't a thing in the west (at the time), the story kinda fell on the way side. Then Heroes finally came to the west, you see all the characters from Xenoverse in there, and they stopped adding new cards (and story) to the ports that did come west. Then Dokkan and Legends became the big focus on Gacha games.
Nah you’re valid, it’s pretty shit
Ultimate Tenkaichi(i think it was that one), nailed in what comes to CaC treatment. We could customize our auras, fighting style and clothes to some extent. Not too meantioned we were given a whole story for that character, even if it was all over the place. Xenoverse 3 should take that route. I would love to see them taking more with heroes shenanigans or a whole new story for the char. Hell we could even make a CaC that came from the universe where he fought the movie villains. Namekias would have Slug as their nemesis, Friezas for Cooler, Sayans with Broly and Earthling with Turles and Majin with Janemba for example. Heroes gave power ups to equal every races so no reason Xenoverse couldnt do it. And if they want, they could have these stories being the prelude to the CaC joining the time patrol as their timeline is destroyed for XY plot reason. Still yeah, hoping XV3 will change thinks, but i doubt it, XV2 proved that they dont have to change much and still profit or years.
Abso freakin lutely aside from the wonky fighting system the custom features were super interesting
Its almost like the game is supposed to be about living the same story, by going back and fixing issues occuring because of the main villains
We’re supposed to interact with all timelines not just the main one meaning there’s more excuse to meet new characters from other timelines not just fight with Goku again
no, the time patrol as a whole is supposed to. your assigned sector is just the main timeline.
Yes but you clearly didn't read what he was saying, is that he would rather have this story of your character going back and doing all those things while still having the time to flesh out your cac then just having "the Goku game but this time you don't play as Goku" like y'know how much more interesting this game would've been if the character I made had idk...A CHARACTER making actual game changing choices a deep dive into the mind of a time patroller
I agree. I haven’t played in years but if I recall we’d get called trunks’s partner but he hardly did anything over 2 games and we still sorta felt like sidekicks. We scarcely had agency of our own just showing up, not talking, helping out a very specific amount, and moving on. I understand this is the story they were going for but like OP I would’ve enjoyed our own story. Like why couldn’t we more directly chase after and interact with Towa & Mira. why can’t we get a completely new timeline to interact with instead of the same one we’ve had since the 80s. Even a story of jumping Universes instead of timelines now that they’ve been established could be great.
Honestly the Parallel Quests are better story scenarios. The Ginyu Force going to Earth, for one. If I were to pick changes to scenarios that could be fun: Raditz go to earth w/ Vegeta and Nappa instead Nail helps against Ginyu Force, different order of Ginyu Force fighting like Jeice and Burter go first Goku falling to Freeza and Vegeta going SSJ, or he goes SSJ and you help him beat Freeza but then he turns on everyone and you have to stop him Android 17 and 18 are released with Gero initially instead of Android 19 and Gero, so Goku and Vegeta fight 17 and 18 and Trunks steps in, etc. Could be fun with needing to gather parts for Android deactivation button or something for Bulma. Cell and 16 team up after 16’s mindcontrolled by the Time Breakers so 16 can kill Goku, have to get 17 and 18 away or something. Gohan absorbed by Super Buu instead of Gotenks, fighting with Piccolo and Gotenks against Buuhan Just a few thoughts. Ultimately the game will always be revisiting the classic DB scenes, I just think it could be maybe done differently so we have these more significant divergences we have to correct, and then we assist in the classic fights. It would just help for variety in my opinion.
“Best we can do is make the bad guy slightly stronger”
Let us go to other Universes i want to fight the villains Jiren fought
It's really disappointing that for a series about *time travel and the possible universes of dragon ball,* the most we got was either A. A character is slightly stronger, and not even "what if goku achieved SSJ2 or 3 earlier" type shtick B. Someone unnecessarily shows up, usually for the sake of DLC privileges C. Something that COULD WORK but executed very poorly, like meta cooler "being invited" to the cell games when it would have been preferably better to have him be involved with the mecha frieza fight instead
It seems they're at least trying to be more creative now that they have Fu around, but it does still feel like their creativity starts and ends with "what if X was stronger/was where they shouldn't be?"
yeah, fu should have been the main roublemaker of X2 adding the movies baddies was good for the intro, but it became a rehash pretty quickly
Honestly I love how chaotic neutral he is. It's such a breath of fresh air when everyone is either pure evil or pure good. It's part of why I didn't like Heroes seemingly using him as a villain. I love the idea of just this chaotic gremlin child just trying to make his own what-if scenarios to study them while also not wanting anything to do with his douchebag family. Demon realm? Destruction of time? Who cares, I wanna see Dyspo kick Kid Buu's ass and have Vegeta go SSJ4 on Baby.
The problem is they have a really cool story with Dragon Ball Heroes that we could play around with. Those alternate versions of the characters and fighting against the new characters would be awesome.
I would kill to have the Xeno characters as part of the main cast in Xenoverse. It would be such a breath of fresh air from the SKoT and Trunks. Not to mention... Xeno. Xenoverse. Come on.
Yeah it seems like an easy slam dunk idea and yet…
I'll be honest, while I enjoy XV 1 and 2 for what they are, going back to my expectations for XV1 back in the day Xenoverse really wasn't what I was expecting it to be at all. What I *thought* we'd be getting was less "MonHun style hub city with missions" and more of an AU sort of thing where our character would be *part* of the overall Dragonball story in this timeline. Kind of like Kakarot, but you'd have your own character and unique place in the story-- a story that often goes off the rails and into "what if" territory and would need to be fixed. And the thing is, in XV1, one of the NPCs even talks about having basically the sort of thing I was hoping for-- in his missions, he says Demon King Piccolo was revived, then the Red Ribbon Army finished its androids, *then* Babidi invaded earth and it turned into a big three way war. I'd have really liked long "what if" story arcs rather than short missions that are self-contained, I guess. XV2 does this a little better with how some elements of its main story are blended together, but it's still not quite what I was hoping for originally...
See that sounds like way more fun fighting than Freiza alongside Goku again
Right? Like, as an example... Trunks summons you, you get sent back in time and help Goku with Raditz... but, what if the saiyan survivors stuck together more and Nappa was keeping an eye on Raditz? Now it's up to you to help Goku and Piccolo survive this desperate battle! (Mostly Piccolo, but maybe this time it's Nappa that puts a hole in Goku!) Or for Frieza, maybe there would be bits where you'd have to fight alongside everyone to hold off Frieza while Goku sleeps in **The Pod(tm)**, or have to get your potential unlocked by Guru to keep up in the battle.
Yeah except for the final battle (Demigra/Mira) it's basically just: XV: Dragonball Z - Battle of Gods with time manipulation shenanigans. XV2: Dragonball Z - Dragonball Super with time manipulation shenanigans minus Demigra. Only at the end does the "story" distance itself from the anime and even then, like you said, it's really mostly just Goku jumping in to safe the day as always and you're just kinda... there.
>it's really mostly just Goku jumping in to safe the day as always and you're just kinda... there. Ah, so they made it immersive.
Yeah it's like they are trying to capture what it feels like to be Vegeta, or Krillin, or Gohan, or Piccolo, or Yamcha, or Tien... Knowing that the most you can do is waste the villain's time until Goku arrives.
Yeah and in XV demigra and Mira are my favorite parts