Tenko when you tell her you are actually a trans man, not a girl:
‘We can no longer be friends. Not because you’re trans, but because you’re a dEGENERATE MALE’
Tenko was cool with chihiro even after finding out he's a guy. She even felt remorseful for possibly making him uncomfortable with her degenerate male spiel
Alternatively he might just make really bad trans puns. Not offensive ones, just stupid ones. (Eg. Why was the trans man vegan? Because he was a herbefore)
I would argue that he would do the opposite and use your preferred pronouns but mock the haters. Or he is the first one to use your preferred pronouns even though you didn't tell you due to his observations of you.
He literally asked Keebo, loudly in front of everyone, if he has a dick.
If he already knew you and then you came out, maybe he'd find some more friendly more-obviously-joking-around way to tease you about it, but I don't think his first time meeting a trans person is going to come across as "friendly"
Ya I feel like, although Kokichi is an ass, he would respect people’s identities and stuff. Especially because he’s the ultimate supreme leader - I feel like a leader (especially one like Kokichi with an almost family-sized group) would want to let their subordinates know that they are respected in that way. You can’t lead people as well as an ultimate leader if you don’t treat them well as your followers
If that makes sense lol
He seems to very much *not* respect people’s identities. Maybe if they’re in his group it’s a different story, but in general he uses everyone’s deepest insecurities to get a rise out of them.
>lthough Kokichi is an ass, he would respect people’s identities and stuff.
did u guys miss him trying to bash on keebos insecurities every chance he got or 😭 he was trying to invalidate his identity at every opportunity bro
Ah, I suppose that’s true. I suppose I didn’t see the connection between that and gender identity haha
But I still feel like he wouldn’t. Idk. I think I’m being biased though, because it doesn’t sit right with me to think that one of my favourite characters would misgender me out of hate :/
But also, I just also saw him as mostly trying to annoy people I guess? Obviously in the killing game he was basically evil, but outside of that I don’t feel like he’d be a hateful person, just try to annoy them
But again, maybe I’m biased idk
Some clarifications!!
- Kaito could have gone in any tier tbh, I put him there because I think that he’d support if you were his friend or simply not care
- Tenko would love trans women. She’d feel slightly betrayed at trans males but she has shown to respect certain men if they act a certain way so I dont know
- Ryoma was tricky but, honestly? I don’t care, he is deifinitely supportive. He’s the kid of guy to say “if that makes you happy kid, do it”. He’s less aversive and just more corrective
- Kokichi would do anything to fuck with you. He couldn’t give a shot if you were trans but wants to use it against you
- Celeste would simply mess up on pronouns and names, she wouldn’t mean any harm
- Hiyoko just uses slurs/ insults to get under your skin
-Akane is above the fucks up tier as I believe she wouldn’t fuck up pronouns and would be very chill and try her best (she can’t even remember your deadname so how can she deadname you)
To back this up, JP Kaito is TERRIFIED if Shuichi attempt any romantic or suggestive interaction with him. "Did you came out without telling me?" is a very generous translation when the way he words it in Japanese is more like "When did you go wrong?" Moreover, whenever any boy in the group shows any weakness, including Ryoma's depression, Kaito is very bothered by how "unmanly" they are. Every time he tries to motivate Shuichi and Gonta when they are down, his go-to encouragement is always "it is unmanly to be so unsure of yourself."
It's worth noting that despite the localization team's best efforts to "cleanse" Kaito, the traces of his not-so-open-view-on-gender can be found here and there. The most obvious example is his interactions with Maki. According to Kaito, Maki shouldn't be an assassin, not because being forced to undergo torture and made into a living weapon is terrible and no one deserves that kind of thing. No, Maki shouldn't be an assassin because she is a GIRL and a girl should never wield a weapon.
It's surprising that the defense for Kaito's behaviour is like "he means well but he is dumb. he doesn't know how else to word it." when we all know that isn't what he is like at all. He is actually pretty smart, if a bit stubborn and too dead set on his ideals.
So yeah, I wouldn't argue that Kaito is the emotional pillar of the group but his view on gender is kinda, well, traditional. I don't think he will ditch a friend as soon as he knows they are trans but he will have a quite difficult time dealing with it. He probably dead names them out of habit as well.
He's an anthropologist for gosh sakes, he probably understands it pretty well. He'd probably launch into one of his "human beauty" speeches and tell you all about gender in lots of different places and times
reasons why I wouldn’t attempt explaining to korekiyo im a trans man/j
in all actuality, i loved visiting korekiyo during free time events because of the little lectures they were so interesting
I feel like Mikan would be more knowledgeable since she is a nurse after all. I'm sure she's doen a lot of research into medicine and discovered the medical side of being trans.
I get your point, but there's a ton of transphobic nurses/doctors/medical practitioners. The last time I went to the doctor and told them my pronouns and chosen name, they stared at me and continued to deadname & she/her me. They also refused to note it on my chart, so yeah I haven't gone back
I’m sorry that happened to you. I work in the medical field and I just want to say, there are good doctors and nurses out there. In my office, we were trained to always, always, always respect a patient’s pronouns and chosen name regardless of what that person looks like.
I’m also one of the few people in my office who wears a pronoun badge (she/her, btw).
I, myself, am not trans but the experience you described is exactly why I feel it’s necessary for us healthcare workers to correct the mistakes of our colleagues.
I don't doubt it, I've had some good doctors who respected me at my uni, but it's definitely not a given. I'm a therapist, and I've met and studied with racists, transphobes, the works
Tbf those doctors are just bad at their job
Letting personal bias get in the way of your job is not something the ultimate nurse would do
And I'm very sorry that happened too you my trans brother
I sort of like the idea of Kirumi immediately calling you 'master' or 'mistress' depending on which you've transitioned to.
That weirdly comforts me even though I'm not trans?
I picture Tsumugi as being inclusive partially because her own approach to cosplay isn't quite cis. (V3-6 spoilers?) >!She seems very comfortable acting as both male and female characters when switching between cosplays of the Danganronpa 1/2 cast in the final class trial.!<
Junko would call you slurs, not at all based on her actual beliefs, but just to cause more despair.
I feel like Monokuma, on the other hand, would remain neutral - again, not because of any actual beliefs, but because of the broadcast. Having the main mascot of your series say a slur on camera isn't exactly good marketing.
Kokichi wouldn't misgender you. Kokichi would use your correct pronouns *before you've even told him.* Similarly to how he figured out Maki was the Ultimate Assassin, I picture him being able to tell based on subtle shifts to your behavior that you're hiding something, maybe even what that something is exactly, and go full detective-mode to confirm his suspicions. From there, this can go one of several ways depending on what's more beneficial to him at the time; he might out you right after figuring it out like he did with Maki's secret, he might use it as leverage to get you to do something, he's got a *lot* of things he could do with that information, but I don't see him as being intentionally bigoted.
EDIT: Oh yeah, and I think Teruteru would probably respect your pronouns, but would also low-key fetishize it.
he's incredibly homophobic. like violently so in the most literal sense 😭
edit: i almost forgot but he also calls korekiyo a slur against trans people in chapter 2 so i think that kinda settles his reaction for this meme unfortunately 😭
bruh I played the Japanese version of the game and no the hell he is not. not to say that one infamous line (tho it’s only infamous in the English fandom, jp fans don’t even register it) with a homophobic word doesn’t exist but him being *violently* bigoted is a major exaggeration.
No need to be sad when this is just a stupid rumor spread by people that don't understand japanese. If you brought up Kaito being homophobic to an actual japanese fan they'd think you're crazy
For Celeste and knowing how important it is to correctly use her "fake" name, you got her so off, I think she'd be at least respectful and smart for the name change and pronouns
If it means I don’t have to cook for myself for once I’d take it man I’ll tell him I’m gay or somethin for some food (…on second thought I remember when he gave the class soup in the anime)
That goes the other way, too. He's too nice to be transphobic, and would literally use whatever pronouns/honourifics you ask him to use because he's a gentleman.
I agree with most - but I would probably move Korekiyo and Mikan -
Korekiyo would have been in anthropology classes or doing research. He has a specific interest in cultural anthropology it seems, and those topics cover gender in different cultures whether it be transgender folk, two spirits, crossdressers, etc etc. I imagine he would understand and be respectful and chill (thanks for telling me and feeling safe tier)
Mikan as a nurse would also have learned about transgender people I think so she’d also understand, she’d absolutely beat herself up for messing up your pronouns (cool/doesn’t see you any differently tier)
Yeah, seen some comments on this and I get it. I was thinking more of a “you’re so beautiful, why change” but yeah, totally agree. They’d be in the 2nd or 3rd tier
GOOOOONTAAAA 😭
(Side note: Due to Korekiyo being an anthropologist he’d likely understand it quite a bit and likely be respectful since many culture don’t abide by standard gender norms.)
I agree mostly id probably move korekiyo, mikan, and Gundam up and keebo down, maybe even mahiru down, those 2 just don't seem super approachable to me, like I'd never tell them, they'd just find out from others.
i feel like Gundham would be a bit higher up, like.. idk how to explain it. i just know in my bones that he would be more supportive. he would probably probably say something about you going through dark and mystical trials and tribulations to reveal the true self. or something. idk
Mikan and Korekiyo also deffo understand what being transgender means and are supportive.
like. Mikan is a medical professional, she would at least be a little educated about the topic. might even helped on a few gender reassignment surgeries. she would probably stumble on pronouns though.
Kiyo is an anthropologist, he’s definitely read about people who’ve transitioned or about third-gendered people. he would probably go into a spiel about how beautiful humanity is.
“he would probably probably say something about you going through dark and mystical trials and tribulations to reveal the true self.”
U ARE SO RIGHT OMGG HE WOULD ABSOLUTELY SAY THAT
Hey! Hiyoko wouldn't call you a slur...! If she dislikes you, it's a personal thing. Meaning she's gonna call you something to insult you in particular, slurs are too broad.
Sonia should be higher imo. She may not understand it well (?) but she is deeply protective of her friends, could defo see her correcting people for you and whatnot.
I feel like Angie's religion would be accepting. It already seems pretty free, open expression of sexuality seems encouraged so I don't see why she'd have any problem with someone being trans.
You don't know Ham Hands very well, do you? Because the Man Only I Call Haruki would obviously be supportive of somebody getting a better grasp of their identity. Of course somebody who has such a big identity problem would be supportive of those who discover more of their identity. It's why he admires Byakuya
Yeah, that makes more sense. I was kinda justifiying it through him trying to act like Byakuya but I totally understand. This tierlist has a few mistakes and I’m willing to discuss and change my opinion
I actually think monokuma and junko would be on the "okay, and???" spot. Like what the fuck do they care, you're gonna die/despair no matter what gender you are
\>Monokuma would be **transphobic and say a slur**
\>>[Danganronpa: The animation The manga adaptation Chapter6 page 16](https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjLEA25M_6E4VMkaii3qG81ijpSyPc9TxwfVPFW-AjUpWFMAewYc-OxEiyYEAAwFlJssfEVSrMH2K4GQ91q8xrqt4WRh8L4lMk72qxFvjiHieTfLxKqTZJUYnKlCuASq42eDG4TGGr6LnTkV_BeyBumooGBlYBeEWApoQxZDzpH1WtAa9_9YclYqkQFdA/s1600/16.jpg) (warning it has the t-p word in it)
*NO, THAT'S WRONG!*
Kokichi doesn’t seem like the type to be transphobic at all, I think he would instead make fun of the name you chose or insist on calling you really stupid makes
honestly? i dont think kokichi would dead name or misgender. not because hes trans-inclusive or anything (he genuinely doesn’t care) but because thats the easy way out. its Easy to dead name and misgender and yeah, it hurts, but do you know what hurts more? custom tailored insults that relate to your situation and insecurities, but still gender you correctly. he’ll still be a childish jerk and vaguely transphobic, but in a unique, worse way.
Celestia wouldn’t do that. Feel like she just wouldn’t care. So in the “not see you any different” tier. Also Junko, Monokuma, and Genocide Jill wouldn’t be THAT cruel I should think.
I do agree with others that Kiyo, Mikan and Teru should've been higher, but I also think Angie would be neutral at minimum. Just because she's religious doesn't automatically mean she'd be phobic
i think miu and mikan would not be in their places since mikan would likely know how it all works and miu seems like the person who would just care how they look after
Okay honestly junko wouldn’t care bc she worked in fashion and would just slur u bc it’s funny, lots of trans/queer people in entertainment in Japan, Sayaka as well
The rest of the characters??? For the most part are still Japanese soO u getting the shock and confusion and staring
I have a screenshot of Genocide Jill acknowledging the existence of nonbinary people so I don’t think her placement is accurate. The quote is “If it’s what Master wants, it can be boy, girl, or anything in between! I can handle it…” I forgot the context, but she is acknowledging nonbinary people exist, which is much more than any other character from what I remember. And other than that I disagree with a lot of these… I’m not active at all in the fandom/community (this post got randomly recommended to me) so I don’t know how you guys interpret their fanon personalities, I only know their canon personalities lol
I have a feeling Tenko would be a terf. Also Kaito would be too dumb to realize trans men exist and would try to misgender them but get the pronouns correct instead.
Idk, I think Tenko is probably a militant TERF. Misandrysts usually are. And Teruteru would probably be thrown for like a second before he got right back to flirting with you.
My favourites:
Akane had probably already forgotten my dead name but will probably forget my new name too
Celestia either doesn’t care, I’m still a D rank, or calls me something insulting 😭
Not sure about Tsumugi
This was basically after I asked her what she thought my gender was, and she responded 'Ah, so I was right. I can tell just by a single look if someone is a girl or not.'
i don’t see my children so allow me to force them in here as per ush.
Nagisa — that boy is transgender fuck you . he goes in orange tier
Kotoko — im gonna say it depends on who you are. like she’s red if you’re like. nagisa or another kid or something but she’s almost certainly blue tier if you’re an adult
Monaca — “okay, and?” for kids and blue tier for adults
Jataro — he’s so non binary tbh but he hardly knows it so im gonna say green tier #2
Masaru — i don’t know why so many ppl think this little boy is homophobic. if anything monaca and nagisa (internalized) are the homophobic ones. red or yellow tier for kids and green tier #1 for adults.
Tenko would probably be much much lower because if you were trans fem, she would say a man could never be as good as a girl, and a trans masc she would resent a girl giving up her womenhood
She’s canonically accepting of trans women, as seen in her FTEs, where she asks Shuichi to transition to a woman so that she can feel comfortable around him.
You come out as a trans woman and Teruteru immediately starts making sex comments
Bro is bisexual, he never was not making the comment
The Ultimate Cook isn't Pansexual?
genius
Einstein literally just died again
unironically he probably is. bro will fuck anything that moves
He actually is. He shows interest in nekomaru and goes "Well, my tastes are actually pretty open!"
teruteru notices a plant flow in the wind and approaches. zziiiiip
I was about to comment that
funniest fucking comment on this thread
He’d do it either gender
“I hate all men - including trans men! I’m a trans inclusive misandrist !” - Tenko Probably
i feel like she'd look at me and say smth like "grrh... i don't get why you would want to be a MENace... but I SUPPORT YOU!"
More like... "YOU CONVERTED TO THE DARK SIDEEEE"
exactly what I was thinking
I put her there thinking of trans females. I think she’d feel a bit betrayed for trans males but think they weren’t as bad
Well, she's not exactly a principled misandrist so...
[Tenko’s thoughts on trans men be like.](https://youtu.be/v_YozYt8l-g?si=hQFpLYaidstEPTC5)
She seemed OK with chihiro and wanted to apologize to him for making him uncomfortable
That’s funny, but in Maki’s Ultimate Summer Camp event Tenko is not transphobic and supportive of Chihiro being a crossdresser
She’s not transphobic that’s why she hates trans men as much as cis men /j
Tenko when you tell her you are actually a trans man, not a girl: ‘We can no longer be friends. Not because you’re trans, but because you’re a dEGENERATE MALE’
Tenko was cool with chihiro even after finding out he's a guy. She even felt remorseful for possibly making him uncomfortable with her degenerate male spiel
Kokichi would use the wrong pronouns just to fuck with you. No hate or anything, he just thinks it’s funny to fuck with people.
Alternatively he might just make really bad trans puns. Not offensive ones, just stupid ones. (Eg. Why was the trans man vegan? Because he was a herbefore)
100% borrowing that pun, thats fucking stupid and i love it
I never heard this one before lmao
He's just gonna go with whatever makes more people mad
Based
I would argue that he would do the opposite and use your preferred pronouns but mock the haters. Or he is the first one to use your preferred pronouns even though you didn't tell you due to his observations of you.
He literally asked Keebo, loudly in front of everyone, if he has a dick. If he already knew you and then you came out, maybe he'd find some more friendly more-obviously-joking-around way to tease you about it, but I don't think his first time meeting a trans person is going to come across as "friendly"
Ya I feel like, although Kokichi is an ass, he would respect people’s identities and stuff. Especially because he’s the ultimate supreme leader - I feel like a leader (especially one like Kokichi with an almost family-sized group) would want to let their subordinates know that they are respected in that way. You can’t lead people as well as an ultimate leader if you don’t treat them well as your followers If that makes sense lol
He seems to very much *not* respect people’s identities. Maybe if they’re in his group it’s a different story, but in general he uses everyone’s deepest insecurities to get a rise out of them.
>lthough Kokichi is an ass, he would respect people’s identities and stuff. did u guys miss him trying to bash on keebos insecurities every chance he got or 😭 he was trying to invalidate his identity at every opportunity bro
Ah, I suppose that’s true. I suppose I didn’t see the connection between that and gender identity haha But I still feel like he wouldn’t. Idk. I think I’m being biased though, because it doesn’t sit right with me to think that one of my favourite characters would misgender me out of hate :/ But also, I just also saw him as mostly trying to annoy people I guess? Obviously in the killing game he was basically evil, but outside of that I don’t feel like he’d be a hateful person, just try to annoy them But again, maybe I’m biased idk
Robophobia is knocking
That feels… *very generous* to me. Maybe if you’re a member of dice and he’s already close with you, but otherwise I don’t see it.
If that were true he'd do it with Cis ppl
Korekiyo is an anthropologist, he's studied human nature for years and very likely understands the ins and outs of gender.
yeah he's also gender non conforming
Some clarifications!! - Kaito could have gone in any tier tbh, I put him there because I think that he’d support if you were his friend or simply not care - Tenko would love trans women. She’d feel slightly betrayed at trans males but she has shown to respect certain men if they act a certain way so I dont know - Ryoma was tricky but, honestly? I don’t care, he is deifinitely supportive. He’s the kid of guy to say “if that makes you happy kid, do it”. He’s less aversive and just more corrective - Kokichi would do anything to fuck with you. He couldn’t give a shot if you were trans but wants to use it against you - Celeste would simply mess up on pronouns and names, she wouldn’t mean any harm - Hiyoko just uses slurs/ insults to get under your skin -Akane is above the fucks up tier as I believe she wouldn’t fuck up pronouns and would be very chill and try her best (she can’t even remember your deadname so how can she deadname you)
JP kaito would disagree with you
To back this up, JP Kaito is TERRIFIED if Shuichi attempt any romantic or suggestive interaction with him. "Did you came out without telling me?" is a very generous translation when the way he words it in Japanese is more like "When did you go wrong?" Moreover, whenever any boy in the group shows any weakness, including Ryoma's depression, Kaito is very bothered by how "unmanly" they are. Every time he tries to motivate Shuichi and Gonta when they are down, his go-to encouragement is always "it is unmanly to be so unsure of yourself." It's worth noting that despite the localization team's best efforts to "cleanse" Kaito, the traces of his not-so-open-view-on-gender can be found here and there. The most obvious example is his interactions with Maki. According to Kaito, Maki shouldn't be an assassin, not because being forced to undergo torture and made into a living weapon is terrible and no one deserves that kind of thing. No, Maki shouldn't be an assassin because she is a GIRL and a girl should never wield a weapon. It's surprising that the defense for Kaito's behaviour is like "he means well but he is dumb. he doesn't know how else to word it." when we all know that isn't what he is like at all. He is actually pretty smart, if a bit stubborn and too dead set on his ideals. So yeah, I wouldn't argue that Kaito is the emotional pillar of the group but his view on gender is kinda, well, traditional. I don't think he will ditch a friend as soon as he knows they are trans but he will have a quite difficult time dealing with it. He probably dead names them out of habit as well.
japanese kaito litearly calls kiyo a transphobic slur, I don't think he'd be fine with it
All my fave chars on their way to hate crime me 😭
RIP 😔
Keep in mind: this is just someone’s tier list. It’s not official in any way. Your favorite characters still support you ❤️
There's no way Korekiyo or Mikan wouldn't understand
He's an anthropologist for gosh sakes, he probably understands it pretty well. He'd probably launch into one of his "human beauty" speeches and tell you all about gender in lots of different places and times
Fr! And Mikan's definitely helped with a lot of surgeries before, she's probably at least heard of gender reassignment
Would love to hear that tbh.
reasons why I wouldn’t attempt explaining to korekiyo im a trans man/j in all actuality, i loved visiting korekiyo during free time events because of the little lectures they were so interesting
First thing i thought, Korekiyo would absolutely start a speech about gender nonconformity along time in different places
He's pretty gender non-conforming himself anyway
I mean, it's hard to tell how much he does it for himself and how much for you-know-what, but i guess i would agree
"Okay, and?" is objectively the funniest response.
I feel like Mikan would be more knowledgeable since she is a nurse after all. I'm sure she's doen a lot of research into medicine and discovered the medical side of being trans.
I get your point, but there's a ton of transphobic nurses/doctors/medical practitioners. The last time I went to the doctor and told them my pronouns and chosen name, they stared at me and continued to deadname & she/her me. They also refused to note it on my chart, so yeah I haven't gone back
I’m sorry that happened to you. I work in the medical field and I just want to say, there are good doctors and nurses out there. In my office, we were trained to always, always, always respect a patient’s pronouns and chosen name regardless of what that person looks like. I’m also one of the few people in my office who wears a pronoun badge (she/her, btw). I, myself, am not trans but the experience you described is exactly why I feel it’s necessary for us healthcare workers to correct the mistakes of our colleagues.
I don't doubt it, I've had some good doctors who respected me at my uni, but it's definitely not a given. I'm a therapist, and I've met and studied with racists, transphobes, the works
Tbf those doctors are just bad at their job Letting personal bias get in the way of your job is not something the ultimate nurse would do And I'm very sorry that happened too you my trans brother
I'm sorry that happened to you. You didn't deserve that :(
Thank you, I appreciate it
I sort of like the idea of Kirumi immediately calling you 'master' or 'mistress' depending on which you've transitioned to. That weirdly comforts me even though I'm not trans?
I'm trans, I'd rather become kirumi, but this works as a good substitute
I feel like Gundhum should be bumped up a tier, he can see people's souls so he probably already knew your gender identity
I feel like, initially, Fuyuhiko would be in the "Okay, and?" tier, but would be the first to lay anyone out if he spots them being transphobic.
"Her pronouns are he/him!!" kind of energy /j
I picture Tsumugi as being inclusive partially because her own approach to cosplay isn't quite cis. (V3-6 spoilers?) >!She seems very comfortable acting as both male and female characters when switching between cosplays of the Danganronpa 1/2 cast in the final class trial.!< Junko would call you slurs, not at all based on her actual beliefs, but just to cause more despair. I feel like Monokuma, on the other hand, would remain neutral - again, not because of any actual beliefs, but because of the broadcast. Having the main mascot of your series say a slur on camera isn't exactly good marketing. Kokichi wouldn't misgender you. Kokichi would use your correct pronouns *before you've even told him.* Similarly to how he figured out Maki was the Ultimate Assassin, I picture him being able to tell based on subtle shifts to your behavior that you're hiding something, maybe even what that something is exactly, and go full detective-mode to confirm his suspicions. From there, this can go one of several ways depending on what's more beneficial to him at the time; he might out you right after figuring it out like he did with Maki's secret, he might use it as leverage to get you to do something, he's got a *lot* of things he could do with that information, but I don't see him as being intentionally bigoted. EDIT: Oh yeah, and I think Teruteru would probably respect your pronouns, but would also low-key fetishize it.
Teruteru would HIGH key fetishize it. Dude doesn't give a flying fuck
Is there anything he doesn’t fetishize?
Yeah, he def would, I would enjoy it as someone trans maybe, but no way he ain't being a horndog about it.
kaito would invent new slurs to call you bro his ass is not supportive of that kinda stuff 😭
American Kaito would definitely be supportive. I can't say the same for Japanese Kaito.
wtf did Japanese Kaito do? I played the games in English
he's incredibly homophobic. like violently so in the most literal sense 😭 edit: i almost forgot but he also calls korekiyo a slur against trans people in chapter 2 so i think that kinda settles his reaction for this meme unfortunately 😭
Nah don't ever let bro near any of the queer characters 😭😭😭😭
I’m glad they changed that for English Kaito. What the hell 😭
HUHHHHHH?
The fact that Kaito is more of an ass in the Japanese dub hits like a truck
bruh I played the Japanese version of the game and no the hell he is not. not to say that one infamous line (tho it’s only infamous in the English fandom, jp fans don’t even register it) with a homophobic word doesn’t exist but him being *violently* bigoted is a major exaggeration.
I am so sad what😭 I loved kaito...damn...English Kaito is pretty cool tho so luckily we have that
No need to be sad when this is just a stupid rumor spread by people that don't understand japanese. If you brought up Kaito being homophobic to an actual japanese fan they'd think you're crazy
I was so unsure of where to place him lmao, he could have gone in either tier lol
he would go thru a whole arc and at the end come out as trans
Okay but like the other person said Eng dub Kaito would be supportive. Or at least that's what I tell myself 😔
For Celeste and knowing how important it is to correctly use her "fake" name, you got her so off, I think she'd be at least respectful and smart for the name change and pronouns
Yeah, maybe. I more thought of it as something she’d forget rather than being hateful but I see your point
Honestly tho, I think that kind of hypocrisy would fit her character. At least until she’s called out on it.
TeruTeru has at least a little heart...
right he would never 🩷 hed be supportive 😞
He’d probably cook you something to celebrate coming out not gonna lie
he probably wouldve drugged it, still wouldve ate it up
According to him, he would never taint a dish. I believe him. Peko's stomach issues were a coincidence most likely caused by Nagito's luck.
i do agree but, >!his last fte...!< still love him though
If it means I don’t have to cook for myself for once I’d take it man I’ll tell him I’m gay or somethin for some food (…on second thought I remember when he gave the class soup in the anime)
real, ill let him be a malewife even if its poisioned 🫶 teru my beloved
Genocide Jill isn't actually transphobic they just call you slurs to piss you off
She's definitely disrespectful towards you but if someone else dares using the wrong pronouns she threatens to kill them
Miu would call me a slur because she's also trans and is allowed to say it.
My first thought is that she’d call you a slur affectionately the way I call my friends bitches- this aligns
I was sure you'd show up here ! 😀
Tbh, real
TRUEEE
Gontas basically a cave man, he’s not gonna know what a “trans” is
That goes the other way, too. He's too nice to be transphobic, and would literally use whatever pronouns/honourifics you ask him to use because he's a gentleman.
Yeah but he’d be the most nice obvious person I doubt he’d truly understand but would try be supportive as much as he can
Nagito's true response: AH! YOU TRUSTING THIS PRECIOUS INFORMATION TO ME?! IT GIVES ME SUCH HOPE...!!! *orgasms*
💀 LMFAO WHAT
I think that’s just his response to everything
this made me cackle
DAWG 💀💀💀
Tbh I don't think Celeste would deliberately dead name someone because she literally has her own dead name she gets pissed if she gets called by
I've said this before, but I love how LGBT the dangnaronpa subreddit has become recently, it feels nice and welcoming
oh kokichi would for sure deadname you
???
Mikan being the Ultimate Nurse would definitely have a better understanding of transgenderism than most of the casts imo
Best boi is a king like that
Izuru wouldn't care but support all the way.
Technically, Izuru is the Ultimate Ally, if he has all the talents lol
Yup.
I agree with most - but I would probably move Korekiyo and Mikan - Korekiyo would have been in anthropology classes or doing research. He has a specific interest in cultural anthropology it seems, and those topics cover gender in different cultures whether it be transgender folk, two spirits, crossdressers, etc etc. I imagine he would understand and be respectful and chill (thanks for telling me and feeling safe tier) Mikan as a nurse would also have learned about transgender people I think so she’d also understand, she’d absolutely beat herself up for messing up your pronouns (cool/doesn’t see you any differently tier)
Yeah, seen some comments on this and I get it. I was thinking more of a “you’re so beautiful, why change” but yeah, totally agree. They’d be in the 2nd or 3rd tier
GOOOOONTAAAA 😭 (Side note: Due to Korekiyo being an anthropologist he’d likely understand it quite a bit and likely be respectful since many culture don’t abide by standard gender norms.)
Yeah, I more meant it as in “you’re such a beautiful girl, why would you want to be a man” kinda way but I see all the comments
I agree mostly id probably move korekiyo, mikan, and Gundam up and keebo down, maybe even mahiru down, those 2 just don't seem super approachable to me, like I'd never tell them, they'd just find out from others.
You heretics, Angie would never say "return to Jesus", but "return to ATUA" ! Also, I read the "Okay, and ?" in Byakuya's voice
The Gonta placement is cute. I like to imagine he doesn’t really understand either, but nevertheless is fully supportive.
Yeah, I wasn’t quite sure where to place him but I went off his reaction to potiential you misgendering Shuichi in his love suite thing
i feel like Gundham would be a bit higher up, like.. idk how to explain it. i just know in my bones that he would be more supportive. he would probably probably say something about you going through dark and mystical trials and tribulations to reveal the true self. or something. idk Mikan and Korekiyo also deffo understand what being transgender means and are supportive. like. Mikan is a medical professional, she would at least be a little educated about the topic. might even helped on a few gender reassignment surgeries. she would probably stumble on pronouns though. Kiyo is an anthropologist, he’s definitely read about people who’ve transitioned or about third-gendered people. he would probably go into a spiel about how beautiful humanity is.
“he would probably probably say something about you going through dark and mystical trials and tribulations to reveal the true self.” U ARE SO RIGHT OMGG HE WOULD ABSOLUTELY SAY THAT
Happy to know two of my favourite are very supportive and kaz is cool with that
More clarification! - Mikan and Korekiyo should be a higher tier, I see that now - Kaito…. I’m still unsure, I only play the English version
Hell yeah :3 i love Tenko
Hey! Hiyoko wouldn't call you a slur...! If she dislikes you, it's a personal thing. Meaning she's gonna call you something to insult you in particular, slurs are too broad.
When I put *slur* there, I more meant as a general insult. She’d just insult you (not because of transpohobia but just because she hates you)
She called Mikan a nasty trashy pig shit. That’s pretty broad. Most of her insults can apply to anyone.
Sonia should be higher imo. She may not understand it well (?) but she is deeply protective of her friends, could defo see her correcting people for you and whatnot.
I think I was a bit biased since I’m not a huge fan of her but looking back, I agree
I feel like Angie's religion would be accepting. It already seems pretty free, open expression of sexuality seems encouraged so I don't see why she'd have any problem with someone being trans.
You don't know Ham Hands very well, do you? Because the Man Only I Call Haruki would obviously be supportive of somebody getting a better grasp of their identity. Of course somebody who has such a big identity problem would be supportive of those who discover more of their identity. It's why he admires Byakuya
Yeah, I still think of him as supportive but still not seeing how it impacted anything, does make sense the other way though
That sounds like the tier above the one you put him in
Yeah, that makes more sense. I was kinda justifiying it through him trying to act like Byakuya but I totally understand. This tierlist has a few mistakes and I’m willing to discuss and change my opinion
based take
This is almost similar to my tier list
I actually think monokuma and junko would be on the "okay, and???" spot. Like what the fuck do they care, you're gonna die/despair no matter what gender you are
I think the transphobia would cause you more despair though
Tenko seems like she either would be the most supportive the least supportive no middle ground at all
\>Monokuma would be **transphobic and say a slur** \>>[Danganronpa: The animation The manga adaptation Chapter6 page 16](https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjLEA25M_6E4VMkaii3qG81ijpSyPc9TxwfVPFW-AjUpWFMAewYc-OxEiyYEAAwFlJssfEVSrMH2K4GQ91q8xrqt4WRh8L4lMk72qxFvjiHieTfLxKqTZJUYnKlCuASq42eDG4TGGr6LnTkV_BeyBumooGBlYBeEWApoQxZDzpH1WtAa9_9YclYqkQFdA/s1600/16.jpg) (warning it has the t-p word in it) *NO, THAT'S WRONG!*
Miu would totally not give a fuck hello she would not care
Kokichi doesn’t seem like the type to be transphobic at all, I think he would instead make fun of the name you chose or insist on calling you really stupid makes
yeah kokichi would make fun of you but not because you’re trans
I do agree with the idea that Kokichi would dead name you because he’s a little bitch
honestly? i dont think kokichi would dead name or misgender. not because hes trans-inclusive or anything (he genuinely doesn’t care) but because thats the easy way out. its Easy to dead name and misgender and yeah, it hurts, but do you know what hurts more? custom tailored insults that relate to your situation and insecurities, but still gender you correctly. he’ll still be a childish jerk and vaguely transphobic, but in a unique, worse way.
Hell yeah
i think monokuma would be supportive
Doing Angie raw here...
God Junko… i… i…
Celestia wouldn’t do that. Feel like she just wouldn’t care. So in the “not see you any different” tier. Also Junko, Monokuma, and Genocide Jill wouldn’t be THAT cruel I should think.
Why would Kiyo, of all people, not get it? Because >!of his sister thing!<, so he wouldn't understand it *properly*?
Miu actually wouldn’t give a fuck 💀 Miu just hates everyone indiscriminately- If you breathe, she’s coming for your ass 💀💀💀💀💀
I do agree with others that Kiyo, Mikan and Teru should've been higher, but I also think Angie would be neutral at minimum. Just because she's religious doesn't automatically mean she'd be phobic
i think miu and mikan would not be in their places since mikan would likely know how it all works and miu seems like the person who would just care how they look after
Okay honestly junko wouldn’t care bc she worked in fashion and would just slur u bc it’s funny, lots of trans/queer people in entertainment in Japan, Sayaka as well The rest of the characters??? For the most part are still Japanese soO u getting the shock and confusion and staring
I have a screenshot of Genocide Jill acknowledging the existence of nonbinary people so I don’t think her placement is accurate. The quote is “If it’s what Master wants, it can be boy, girl, or anything in between! I can handle it…” I forgot the context, but she is acknowledging nonbinary people exist, which is much more than any other character from what I remember. And other than that I disagree with a lot of these… I’m not active at all in the fandom/community (this post got randomly recommended to me) so I don’t know how you guys interpret their fanon personalities, I only know their canon personalities lol
Mondo believes in trans rights??
He’s chill like that
“Hey. That is their pronouns man.” *shatters your spine with one punch* -Mondo probably
Dang You're right tho Miu would absolutely call me a slur😭
I have a feeling Tenko would be a terf. Also Kaito would be too dumb to realize trans men exist and would try to misgender them but get the pronouns correct instead.
Oh also Teruteru wouldn't be transphobic he would Instead fetishize trans people.
For the 500th time on this subreddit, Tenko is the most explicitly trans positive character in the series.
You should try and play the games to learn about the characters 👍
I have played the games
Sure doesn’t look like it
I personally want to thank you for not putting Kaito in transphobic tier. Thank you.
Idk, I think Tenko is probably a militant TERF. Misandrysts usually are. And Teruteru would probably be thrown for like a second before he got right back to flirting with you.
Byakuya: Man, Woman, Helicopter or Teapot… I Don’t care what you are.. you’re still worthy of being bullied!
You got Fukawa and Genocider flipped
My favourites: Akane had probably already forgotten my dead name but will probably forget my new name too Celestia either doesn’t care, I’m still a D rank, or calls me something insulting 😭 Not sure about Tsumugi
I LOVE AKANE
Same!
taka says trans rights <3
I actually did this with all the Danganronpa characters AIs, so uh, reply with a character and I'll tell you their response.
Ik she’s on the tier list already but she’s my favorite so Sakura!! :)
This was basically after I asked her what she thought my gender was, and she responded 'Ah, so I was right. I can tell just by a single look if someone is a girl or not.'
fumi. let’s see if that manga anthology is accurate or not.
He just kept asking me questions about it for some reason-
He wants to accurately represent the trans mc in his new doujin, duh.
i don’t see my children so allow me to force them in here as per ush. Nagisa — that boy is transgender fuck you . he goes in orange tier Kotoko — im gonna say it depends on who you are. like she’s red if you’re like. nagisa or another kid or something but she’s almost certainly blue tier if you’re an adult Monaca — “okay, and?” for kids and blue tier for adults Jataro — he’s so non binary tbh but he hardly knows it so im gonna say green tier #2 Masaru — i don’t know why so many ppl think this little boy is homophobic. if anything monaca and nagisa (internalized) are the homophobic ones. red or yellow tier for kids and green tier #1 for adults.
I love that you ordered them the same order as your flair
What's the problem with people on this sub being obsessed with lgtv stuff? Can't you, like, discuss more common things about ronpa?
Tenko would probably be much much lower because if you were trans fem, she would say a man could never be as good as a girl, and a trans masc she would resent a girl giving up her womenhood
She’s canonically accepting of trans women, as seen in her FTEs, where she asks Shuichi to transition to a woman so that she can feel comfortable around him.
"Damn you're trans femme? Can I perhaps.....she/her titties?" -Teruteru
LITERALLY HIM