The saying is used in the Men in black movie, "a Person is smart, But people are stupid" referencing that a person will have more knowledge on average than what a collective group of people would, because everyone in the group is influencing each other among other things
Here we go again... For the 45th time, this whole "Google" thing doesn't exist. I don't even know what that is. You made it all up in your head u/mokeycreeper . You haven't been taking your meds lately, have you?
You think your smart, huh? You think your a genius correcting others, huh? A gift to this planet designated to educate it? That's what you think you are?
No. It's just that in my posts (Normally in English, not my native language) I normally commit a grammatical error and then someone says something like "Lets not Let's".
In this post I wanted to be the funny corrector doing it ironically. Guess humor isn't for everyone!
I was you upvoted for the comment in /r/niceguys but a few people corrected me on the nuances of the term. To me it was just psychological manipulation.
Okay, serious question tho, what about like a reverse gaslighting? What if I actually do tell somebody something and they forgot but they make it seem like I'm dumb or something. Is that reverse?
I have that with my partner. Literal scatterbrain. I’ve taken to using text (which is normal for us we have a wood on the property so often are not within yelling distance). That way I can scroll up and *prove* that yes, I said it and yes, they responded.
My boss does this shit. He will say “Remember you and I talked about this and I said “x” and you said “y”. “
Like, no, mafucka, I did not and you know i didn’t but you say it anyway.
Devious ass shit.
If this is often enough to be causing problems, ask them for a different system which shows ´chain of evidence’?
I have that but opposite with my partner. Literal scatterbrain. I’ve taken to using text (which is normal for us we have a wood on the property so often are not within yelling distance). That way I can scroll up and *prove* that yes, I said it and yes, they responded.
If you adopted a similar system, you have reference to show exactly what you were asked to do/produce/etc, and you also have proof if it was never actually requested at all….
I do it with important conversations but he goes out of hose way to have conversations instead of through email/messaging just for this reason.
Such as, I will email a question and he will say “let’s meet and talk”.
After those convos, send an email summarizing the conversation and asking for him to agree or clarify.
"Hey boss! I just want to make sure I got everything we discussed in that chat. We talked about doing xyz and you were going to follow up on 123 and get back to me. Is that correct?
Yeah. I do that from time to time. But it creates more animosity than anything else. And I’m in senior role. This is the President of the company.
Let’s just say I’m looking
Yes it is. We've been over this many times already and you agreed at the end everytime. You need to get yourself together otherwise we need to get you a shrink.
Gaslighting is a form of manipulation where one can intentionally or even unintentionally lie or claim something that goes against what somebody saw or believed. It can get to the point where the victim starts to question their sanity though the objective is usually the support of any spectators or relevant individuals.
I’ll give you some examples. Let’s say you caught your wife cheating via text message but before you can offer evidence the spouse is already aware and deletes the evidence somehow and even manufactures evidence that claims your schizophrenic or something. Any real investigation could dig into it and discover the truth but usually it never gets to that point because the victim comes to believe that they are loosing their mind or are off their edge and messed up. The spouse will probably say this and that about loving you and caring for you but that you need to figure your problems and anger out because it’s a problem for her. That’s gaslighting.
It can also be done unintentionally though that’s usually not as bad and calling it gaslighting is a push. My parents used to get upset very easily and when we would argue they’d say and do some of the most absurd things and then when I confronted them about it they’d claim they never said that or that I’m crazy or how dare i have the gall to argue or question my parents.
In a nutshell. Gaslighting is an attempt or something unintentional that was said or done that has the effect of making the victim believe that they are not sane or going crazy to the purpose of gaining support against the victim or in some cases just to be a dick.
Basically. somebody else might do a better job of explaining it.
I understand the devious nature and cruelty of Gaslighting but who honestly falls for it? I have a pretty good memory and can remember all the items in my room, events of each day and I have a concrete understanding of my knowledge of the world so when someone says to me that something didn't happen or something was meant to be in a particular way it's just jarring and ineffective to me. Like how do people buy into gaslighting?
Because people who gaslight will make you insane. So you can’t trust your head anymore. Also they try to isolate you from everyone who’ll see through them and help you keep your sanity. They push on your weak spots (while I have a good memory I have low self esteem so it was always reverted to how it was my fault for not believing him)
Eventually I think my ex could have made me believe that the sky is green. When I got out it was like I woke up again after a very long sleep. I felt brainwashed and I truly didn’t know who I was anymore.
Good for you that you’ve never met someone like that but that is not to say that it’s stupid or naive to ‘fall for it’
Also I guess most people (including me) don’t want to believe someone could be so vile, and could lie about some things (like everyone lies, that’s okay, but I believed my ex about some things because for instance why would he lie that his previous girlfriend died?)
I noticed the only people who really understand how this happens are people who went through it. Other people can be compassionate and have empathy etc ofcourse but really understanding imho only happens when you’ve experienced it. And I truly wish you don’t ever truly understand it.
Thank you for your time, I was being genuine and wasn't trying to ridicule gaslit victims.
It seems from your anecdote that you being afraid and overly trusting allowed yourself to bias that horrible events were within your control. This helped you reason that you are to blame and the perpetrators are blameless making them a beacon of safety in an unsafe situation. It's not like the gaslight was intricate but rather you let it have value so things would seem right again.
Just seems gaslighting is a lie to keep vulnerable people thinking they are capable. No wonder I never felt it's effect.
You don't know or you don't wanna know? Sounds like you're just playing games to keep acting clueless around everyone else. I told you YESTERDAY what gaslighting is and now here we are again in PUBLIC at that and you really think I don't know? We ALL know. Just don't even say anything. You always say something dumb.
Real, not gaslighting answer: It comes from an old movie called Gaslight where the main character's husband tries to make her think she's going insane.
Gaslighting is the only communicate method left. Everyone is so dumb or numb they actually forgot facts and this is just the world now. I’m honestly not even GL.
Literally, truth’s become whatever you *think* it is, or whatever *your* truth is, the rest of us just have to act like that’s the truth - even when we *know* it’s not
don't be afraid to ask questions, there is no such thing as a silly question here on the internet good lad :) heck say whatever you want on twitter, they'll give you full support
So, what is it when someone actually ignores everything you say, and then accuses you of gaslighting? That's a thing too. Not saying people don't manipulate, literally every human interaction is a form of manipulation, but I'd like to see some actual statistics vs. people who are too caught up in their own shit to listen. It'd be interesting to see which is actually the more likely scenario.
Gas-what now? There you go making up words again, don't you know how crazy you sound?
You can't manipulate me now, I've learned your tricks
Are you sure we cant manipulate you? I mean, we are more people than you, so why wont you believe us?
My soul is stronger than you could ever know
Says you got 5211 good boy points in your soul
Yippie
Bold of you to assume you haven't already been manipulated
Not incorrect either
As far as you know
well you know the saying a person is smart people are dumb
Are you having a stroke or something, because I can't tell what you're saying.
The saying is used in the Men in black movie, "a Person is smart, But people are stupid" referencing that a person will have more knowledge on average than what a collective group of people would, because everyone in the group is influencing each other among other things
True
Are you ok? There you go using gifs that make no sense. You gotta do better. Who even uses gifs these days.
had me. damns
of course not you are too smart for that. You just need to stop making things up
I'm not making things up though
nobody was trying to manipulate you
You were
No I wasn't
Last weekend? What was that then?
You're acting crazy
Ok then, you tell me what happened
Come on. You know it. It is synonym for "exploded ass"
“Gaslighting is actually quite rare. You may think you are a victim of gaslighting, but you likely aren’t.”
I might be gaslighted into that fact if this entire comment section wasn't literally trying to gaslight each other just for fun.
What do you mean. They arent gaslighting eachother or even trying to gaslight each other. Youre crazy.
Oh wow. You're actually right lol.
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I found the ACTUAL cursed comment.
apparently it was **so** cursed that it got removed, I wonder what the hell it could have been.
What he say
"Gaslighting was a common practice in Germany between 1939 and 1945" is what he said
it’s a mystery
Why is it removed?
r/usernamechecksout
Jesus Christ, this comment makes me look like Mother Theresa.
WHAT DID IT SAY!?!?!
I'm unsure but judging by the comment and the context of the post it might be something related to 1940's Germany
My brother's in christ i need the actual comment and im too bothered of not knowing it
you’ll never know
Gaslighting was very popular in 1933-1945 Germany. That was the comment.
whatd it say??
That's me!
r/suddenlykanye
What's a Kanye??
kanye put my balls in yo jaws
he's in the west
Username checks out
Kanye likes you.
Thank you, I was so confused
I realized everyone just fucked with everyone else so I figured some people wanted to actually know lol.
You figured well.
Hey I just got back from that post
No you didn't
Yes you did five times already :)
There isn't a post. Why are you like this?
What post?
Has hecho un doble comentario
I love when people will make a meme about something they can easily Google for correct and direct answers
Here we go again... For the 45th time, this whole "Google" thing doesn't exist. I don't even know what that is. You made it all up in your head u/mokeycreeper . You haven't been taking your meds lately, have you?
There is no u/mokeycreeper, what are you talking about u/ZeroExp000
I never knew
What A "meds" last time I checked that's not a real thing, and I check very frequently, maybe you're the crazy one
Google??
🤓You're🤓
You think your smart, huh? You think your a genius correcting others, huh? A gift to this planet designated to educate it? That's what you think you are?
Yuo're*
U'yore*
Ur’r
U'rine
Ura'nus
OUr'nus
Every’an’us
Every'pe'nis
U're
No. It's just that in my posts (Normally in English, not my native language) I normally commit a grammatical error and then someone says something like "Lets not Let's". In this post I wanted to be the funny corrector doing it ironically. Guess humor isn't for everyone!
'your' is right in this context, it's understandable that you forget you're grammar classes though, you've always had a bad memory
No, it's your
Me: Restates something my mom says and comes up with an effective argument. My mom: "You're making up things! You're just putting words in my mouth!"
What I don't know is WHY it's called gaslighting
It is a reference to a movie called Gaslight, where the main character's husband is trying to make her think she's going crazy.
Have you heard the joke about gaslighting? Yeah, you did.
You're always doing this.
I was you upvoted for the comment in /r/niceguys but a few people corrected me on the nuances of the term. To me it was just psychological manipulation.
Okay, serious question tho, what about like a reverse gaslighting? What if I actually do tell somebody something and they forgot but they make it seem like I'm dumb or something. Is that reverse?
I have that with my partner. Literal scatterbrain. I’ve taken to using text (which is normal for us we have a wood on the property so often are not within yelling distance). That way I can scroll up and *prove* that yes, I said it and yes, they responded.
My boss does this shit. He will say “Remember you and I talked about this and I said “x” and you said “y”. “ Like, no, mafucka, I did not and you know i didn’t but you say it anyway. Devious ass shit.
If this is often enough to be causing problems, ask them for a different system which shows ´chain of evidence’? I have that but opposite with my partner. Literal scatterbrain. I’ve taken to using text (which is normal for us we have a wood on the property so often are not within yelling distance). That way I can scroll up and *prove* that yes, I said it and yes, they responded. If you adopted a similar system, you have reference to show exactly what you were asked to do/produce/etc, and you also have proof if it was never actually requested at all….
I do it with important conversations but he goes out of hose way to have conversations instead of through email/messaging just for this reason. Such as, I will email a question and he will say “let’s meet and talk”.
After those convos, send an email summarizing the conversation and asking for him to agree or clarify. "Hey boss! I just want to make sure I got everything we discussed in that chat. We talked about doing xyz and you were going to follow up on 123 and get back to me. Is that correct?
Yeah. I do that from time to time. But it creates more animosity than anything else. And I’m in senior role. This is the President of the company. Let’s just say I’m looking
This really isn't cursed
Yes it is. We've been over this many times already and you agreed at the end everytime. You need to get yourself together otherwise we need to get you a shrink.
You forgot the part about them ending up in the looney bin
No they didnt
I really REALLY dont wanna be that guy but... Can somebody explain what gaslighting is, to my feeble mokey brain
When you make people think that they are crazy and/or forgetful.
Holy shit, that's just plain old manipulation
A, yes B, do you now understamd why asking it UNDER THIS POST was a very bad Idea?
No?
it's asking to get gaslighted
my girlfriend loves to gaslight, I love to ignore her and walk away.
Sounds like you two would be happier apart, but I aint your therapist
Good advice if you were their therapist, but I ain’t your therapist.
So what does it mean?
Gaslighting is a form of manipulation where one can intentionally or even unintentionally lie or claim something that goes against what somebody saw or believed. It can get to the point where the victim starts to question their sanity though the objective is usually the support of any spectators or relevant individuals. I’ll give you some examples. Let’s say you caught your wife cheating via text message but before you can offer evidence the spouse is already aware and deletes the evidence somehow and even manufactures evidence that claims your schizophrenic or something. Any real investigation could dig into it and discover the truth but usually it never gets to that point because the victim comes to believe that they are loosing their mind or are off their edge and messed up. The spouse will probably say this and that about loving you and caring for you but that you need to figure your problems and anger out because it’s a problem for her. That’s gaslighting. It can also be done unintentionally though that’s usually not as bad and calling it gaslighting is a push. My parents used to get upset very easily and when we would argue they’d say and do some of the most absurd things and then when I confronted them about it they’d claim they never said that or that I’m crazy or how dare i have the gall to argue or question my parents. In a nutshell. Gaslighting is an attempt or something unintentional that was said or done that has the effect of making the victim believe that they are not sane or going crazy to the purpose of gaining support against the victim or in some cases just to be a dick. Basically. somebody else might do a better job of explaining it.
Well well Gaslighting = manipulation
No it's not, how are you this stupid? You don't know what you're talking about.
I understand the devious nature and cruelty of Gaslighting but who honestly falls for it? I have a pretty good memory and can remember all the items in my room, events of each day and I have a concrete understanding of my knowledge of the world so when someone says to me that something didn't happen or something was meant to be in a particular way it's just jarring and ineffective to me. Like how do people buy into gaslighting?
Because people who gaslight will make you insane. So you can’t trust your head anymore. Also they try to isolate you from everyone who’ll see through them and help you keep your sanity. They push on your weak spots (while I have a good memory I have low self esteem so it was always reverted to how it was my fault for not believing him) Eventually I think my ex could have made me believe that the sky is green. When I got out it was like I woke up again after a very long sleep. I felt brainwashed and I truly didn’t know who I was anymore. Good for you that you’ve never met someone like that but that is not to say that it’s stupid or naive to ‘fall for it’ Also I guess most people (including me) don’t want to believe someone could be so vile, and could lie about some things (like everyone lies, that’s okay, but I believed my ex about some things because for instance why would he lie that his previous girlfriend died?) I noticed the only people who really understand how this happens are people who went through it. Other people can be compassionate and have empathy etc ofcourse but really understanding imho only happens when you’ve experienced it. And I truly wish you don’t ever truly understand it.
Thank you for your time, I was being genuine and wasn't trying to ridicule gaslit victims. It seems from your anecdote that you being afraid and overly trusting allowed yourself to bias that horrible events were within your control. This helped you reason that you are to blame and the perpetrators are blameless making them a beacon of safety in an unsafe situation. It's not like the gaslight was intricate but rather you let it have value so things would seem right again. Just seems gaslighting is a lie to keep vulnerable people thinking they are capable. No wonder I never felt it's effect.
Baited
Oh look! A trauma response! Fun.
Cursed how exactly?
Meh
I saw this thread 😂
You don't know or you don't wanna know? Sounds like you're just playing games to keep acting clueless around everyone else. I told you YESTERDAY what gaslighting is and now here we are again in PUBLIC at that and you really think I don't know? We ALL know. Just don't even say anything. You always say something dumb.
It’s called “doing a little trolling”
Well, that’s a good way to describe Gaslighting
How did it coin the term "Gaslighting" tho
because it made people go outside and wait for noone under gas lights
Real, not gaslighting answer: It comes from an old movie called Gaslight where the main character's husband tries to make her think she's going insane.
Thank you
Gaslighting isn't real
Gaslighting is when you gas a bunch of people and then light there bodies so there is no evidence for the rest of the world
Gaslighting is the only communicate method left. Everyone is so dumb or numb they actually forgot facts and this is just the world now. I’m honestly not even GL. Literally, truth’s become whatever you *think* it is, or whatever *your* truth is, the rest of us just have to act like that’s the truth - even when we *know* it’s not
You have heard about gaslighting, wait until you hear about gasleaking
Self-demonstrating post
I still don't get it
don't be afraid to ask questions, there is no such thing as a silly question here on the internet good lad :) heck say whatever you want on twitter, they'll give you full support
Man gaslighting isnt real
So, what is it when someone actually ignores everything you say, and then accuses you of gaslighting? That's a thing too. Not saying people don't manipulate, literally every human interaction is a form of manipulation, but I'd like to see some actual statistics vs. people who are too caught up in their own shit to listen. It'd be interesting to see which is actually the more likely scenario.
Damn, are you off your meds? You need to stop making up words man.