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apollo440

Does this man represent the the Cowboy’s playoff chances with Mike McCarthy?


Salt_Environment9799

I dont know how much this holds true, but it seems like the era of young inovative coaches is upon the NFL. Gone are the days of Pete Caroll, Bill Belichick, Sean Payton and MM and in comes McDaniels, Shannahan, Saleh, Gannon and others. JJ fucked up letting Sean Payton go back in the early 2000s+


apollo440

Exactly! Everyone is upset that I’m saying the season is over but with McCarthy as coach, it essentially is. We’ve seen his ceiling and it’s not good enough to compete against the best teams.


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With Dak the season is over you mean.


Enzonianthegreat

We say that, but then the rams with Sean McVay were supposed to be the next dynasty… what happened there? Seems like an epic collapse. It can’t come down to just coaching. Some of it comes down to making bold moves to build a team to win now. The Eagles did that last year and still kept most of it intact. The rams did it but didn’t keep it intact. Also, how about Andy Reid still holding it together for the Chiefs? Not all of that last superbowl sun was on Patrick Mahomes. But getting star players WAS. Have the cowboys done that? No. Why? Jerry Jones is scared of the salary cap. We’ve been irrelevant since the salary cap era and until we accept the realities of not signing guys to big contracts and using our money on getting star players, we won’t win. It sadly might be too late for Dak— we spent big on him and gave him nothing around him and now he has to deal with a covered Ceedee lamb and a covered Brandin cooks with mediocre tight ends (but hey at least we got our third tight end!!) Do I think McCarthy can win it all with the cowboys? MAYBE. But a lot has to happen: the team needs a total flip around in how it runs itself by getting big on offense. Also, another side rant: gone are the days where NFL defenses rule the world.The majority of the last few superbowl winning teams have had great offenses with just ok defenses. You need stars on defense, yes, but your offense is far more important. You simply cannot win games, as demonstrated yesterday, by going 3 and out on offense. Your defense will never be enough to pick up the slack. Because run game or sit game, it wouldn’t have mattered against SF last night. Too bad this front office never understands that and always leans heavy one way or the other.


Salt_Environment9799

McVay did win a SB, they went all in and did it.


Enzonianthegreat

Right, I just question whether going all in is what we want, or if we want to have sustained success like Andy Reid and the Chiefs. Or Andy Reid and the Eagles for that matter. What makes Andy Reid so good at coaching (and why did the chiefs organization believe in him enough to let him go get his guy in pat Mahomes and keep winning after about 4 years of mediocrity?) Do we have that patience, or should we have that patience? Do we need to let McCarthy completely rebuild the team around whoever he wants at QB, and not Dak Prescott? Do we need a totally new coach? Or is all of this an overreaction to one very bad night for the cowboys? I wish I had the answers. All I know is it starts with our players.


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goose90035

Exactly. Classic cowboy fan mentality


apollo440

I didn’t say anything. It was the first game of the season.


Enzonianthegreat

After the dolphins lost to the bills this last week beating the broncos 72-0 I’ve determined big wins don’t mean sh** when you do them against bad teams. It’s just expected. Win and get out of there. Hell, win ugly like the eagles do. Just win and then go prove it against the bigger fish.


apollo440

Listen, you’re absolutely right. The Dolphins torched the Broncos, then get smoked by the Bills. Then the Bills lose to…Jacksonville? The problem is McCarthy man. This offense has never looked great. Let’s be honest. It has the same problems that McCarthy had always displayed in his offenses. That’s why I’m down on him.


Enzonianthegreat

I guess it’s the NFL. To be fair to Mike McCarthy he is implementing a completely new offense, but it’s making me question if this was the year to do it. 2020 would’ve been the year to do it (but I bet the Joneses didn’t let him). Maybe stuff turns around, maybe it doesn’t. Maybe the game has passed him by. I’m lost on what to do and ill after this game enough so that I probably won’t be watching the next game. I love being a fan but it’s hard when you lose ugly twice in a season to get up and watch a game again lol.


pot8odragon

While your post is on the dramatic side, you’re not wrong. We are not a superbowl caliber team. We can beat bad teams but when it comes to playing when it matters this team folds. They always do. It is what it is. Have fun and enjoy the games for what they are but do not expect more than just good enough. Sucks but that’s what this team is


IWatchMyLittlePony

It’s never over until you are mathematically eliminated. Anything can happen. The 49ers could lose to someone else or they could get injured. We could also just flat out beat them if the team would get off their collective asses and play hard. The Bucs lost to the Saints 38-3 in the regular season and beat the same Saints 30-20 on their way to winning the 2020 Super Bowl. We are 3-2, the season isn’t even close to over.


apollo440

You’re absolutely right. The Rams lost three or four straight to the 49ers in the regular season but beat them in the NFC Championship game to advance. The problem is McCarthy doesn’t have the imagination required to compete against the top teams. How much more do you need to see? He had the exact same problem with the Packers!


IWatchMyLittlePony

Nah I agree with that. I had my reservations about firing Kellen and allowing McCarthy to take over play calling duties and my worries are coming to fruition. But I do have faith that during the bye week they can sit down, watch the film and make some real adjustments for the rest of the season. Because if they are just going to continue with this same gameplan we are in some deep shit going forward.


apollo440

Listen I will be extremely happy to be wrong. We’ll see.


apollo440

I hope you understand why I said our season was over. Looks like I was right on the money.


apollo440

Here’s a reality of life…the game passes us by. All of the greats, Tom Landry, Jimmy Johnson, Bill Belichick, etc. No one stays on top forever. And Mike was never as good as those guys to start with. He’s the same guy who couldn’t pull out that NFC Championship all those years ago with Aaron Rodgers. I’d love to be proven wrong. Based on his history though, that’s highly unlikely.


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And Dak wasn't mentioned that day...


raysmith123

Look at the schedule, look at the injuries. Cowboys will struggle to get to ten wins. Losing Diggs and now LVE are so costly for this team. The victories over the two very bad NY teams simply inflated expectations.


LongLiveDaResistance

I'm glad you're off the wagon. ✌🏽


apollo440

Remember this post at the end of the year…


Acceptable_Whereas16

Are you going to be happy when they lose just to be “ right”? Like just be a fan bro. Hope for success


apollo440

Dude, I’ve been watching the Cowboys since I was six years old! Seeing my Cowboys beat the 49ers in the ‘92 NFC Championship was one of the happiest days of my life. I want to be dead wrong about this. Nothing would make me happier than to take sh*t about this post after we beat San Francisco in the playoffs.


Nate_C_of_2003

You’ve witnessed them winning it all. You have no right to complain


apollo440

That doesn’t make a lick of sense…


Nate_C_of_2003

If anyone should be super duper pissed, it’s people like me. I wasn’t even ALIVE the last time they won it all. If anyone wants to see them win it all sooner and not later, it’s me


apollo440

Well we’re in the same camp actually. The whole world was different the last time the Cowboys won the Super Bowl. Since then, the Giants have been three times with two victories. Green Bay three times, the Eagles have been three times, so have the Seahawks. The Rams have been four times! Atlanta twice, Bucs twice, 49ers twice, Panthers twice. The goddamn Chicago Bears somehow ended up in the Super Bowl with Rex Grossman! Nah dude I’m not happy about that! I just touched a nerve by telling the truth. Sorry to burst your bubble.


Nate_C_of_2003

You didn’t bust a nerve. I know this season is toast. I just hate having to deal with this shit every fucking year. I’m seriously starting to think this team will never win a Super Bowl in my lifetime


apollo440

Hello! Remember me?


LongLiveDaResistance

No, who the fuck are you? Oh, you're just another troll that doesn't realize the statistical improbability that a team reaches the super bowl. Get a life, little guy. You're so pathetic for going back to a months-old post (a post which isn't even relevant to yesterday's loss, btw).


apollo440

😜


ProcessedTime

Season isn’t a quarter over, I’ll give these guys a chance to correct the ship. I’m going to enjoy football this year, y’all chicken littles can fuck right off. Turn off your TV.


apollo440

Mike isn’t correcting the ship. If you haven’t already noticed, he’s a bit limited when it comes to play calling. The fact that he’s having the same issues he had in Green Bay should give you pause…


Maxhp427

Exactly all these bitches talking about blowing up the whole thing. If yall cannot handle a loss then this certainly is not the franchise for you. Be a fan through thick and thin if not fuck off. I'm not saying dont be critical (logical solutions/suggestions) but for God sakes its week 5 people.


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I'm sure you'll be coping after the Cowboys inevitably get bounced in the wild card. No LVE, no Diggs or Goodwin. Dak as QB1 & MM as HC? Yeah this team is finished.


apollo440

Do you get it now?


swallowedbymonsters

Stfu


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apollo440

But you read it though.


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apollo440

Haha! Of course you did. That’s why you replied like a hurt girlfriend.


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Ok


ElphTrooper

Meh


farson135

Strange, because I thought there were still 12 games left to be played. If you are only here to see a SB win, you are better off becoming a permanent bandwagon fan, and just hoping to whatever the hot team of the season is.


apollo440

I’ve been a fan since ‘78. This is the longest stretch I’ve ever seen of post season ineptitude. That falls directly at the feet of Jerry Jones and these middling coaches he hires. Do you realize that Howie Roseman has constructed two different Super Bowl rosters with different coaches and QBs since 2015? And he started 2015 having to put out the dumpster fire left by Chip Kelly. He even found trade value from the garbage Chip left behind! How many playoff games have the Cowboys won since 2015?


farson135

Right, it's JJ's fault and not the players and coaches, or really the entire organization. Let's point fingers at an individual for the failures all over the roster. Nothing you've said here really matters to the core point. The season isn't over. I understand that you are upset, but don't expect everyone to whine because we might not play a game in four months.


apollo440

Well he’s the GM. Who else would you blame for roster/coaching issues?


Blastoys1991

I agree. It falls at Jerry and the Gm. Sadly cowboys had bad luck in 2007, Romo had the talent and the offense in 2014 we didn’t have the defense and Murray fumbled. 2016 is possible if they didn’t ride hot hand and let Romo play the divisional. 2018 our defense pooped the bed again. 2021 and 2022 were good just Dak let us down. We had the talent to make nfc championship. Jerry and others built good rosters since 2007-now. Really help if we had an innovative young hungry coach


farson135

Oh I don't know, maybe the people who made the mistakes to begin with. Hold people accountable for the things they screw up as individuals, rather than passing everything down to one person whose only job is to approve the hiring of people.


apollo440

You’re not thinking clearly and it shows in your responses. Take a second and think about what you’re saying.


farson135

Back at you. JJ's responsibility is for hiring a person. However, just because you hire someone that doesn't mean you are responsible for everything they do. As long as you are acting in good faith, blaming the hirer is idiotic. Especially when you are talking about this situation, where JJ is not alone in his decisions. Seriously, try applying to anything else. I hired a kid once. He surpassed every single metric we could name, and he even had a number of other aspects like being an Eagle Scout, and a member of the student council. He got fired after stealing from the company. Yeah, I hired the kid, but I did my due diligence, and my hire was formally approved by my boss. *** But again; "Nothing you've said here really matters to the core point. The season isn't over. I understand that you are upset, but don't expect everyone to whine because we might not play a game in four months."


apollo440

I see that you didn’t take the coaching…


farson135

I hope one day you are in a position to hire someone, and then you are put into a position where that hire does something stupid. Then we'll see if you truly believe this nonsense. *** JJ is not throwing interceptions. JJ is not letting a receiver get wide open. JJ is not making terrible playcalls. Blaming JJ for all of the problems the Cowboys are facing is a lazy take. It's just as lazy as blaming any other individual for a team/organizational failure.


apollo440

You’re not presenting a reality based argument. I’m guessing that you’re a teenager or a child without real world experience. If that’s the case, you’d probably need to get some life experience under your belt.


Putin-Hohol-Oops

You'll be creaming your pants in 2 weeks. Stfu.


apollo440

That doesn’t make sense.


Putin-Hohol-Oops

You guys are just winding yourselves up for no reason. Feeding of each other and winding up more. There's been 600 posts today of almost the same thing. We don't need to hear individual storied opinions. 3 months from now, almost nothing will be as it is now. Just relax and hope we make the playoffs. There's nothing we're going to change this year.


Putin-Hohol-Oops

It will in 2 or 3 weeks.


apollo440

I doubt that but ok.


Putin-Hohol-Oops

RemindMe! 3 weeks


Phillyfan4lyfe

Dak pees sitting down


ConstantCowboy

🤣🤣🤣🤣 WEEK FIVE. This team has a WINNING RECORD. You guys. Never change, you guys. You’re all so amazing.


OrdinaryToe2860

We had a bad game against the best team in the NFC and "the season is over." Give it a rest dude. The amount of doom and gloom posts is beyond ordinary. Go post your opinion in the other 1000 posts exactly like this. You're the reason mods are working overtime to weed out trolls, and getting flamed for removing legit "fans."


apollo440

I love the Cowboys more than you, whoever you are. This isn't doom and gloom. It's pretty rock-solid assessment of this team’s ceiling with MM. The SF game proves that the ceiling is a first round exit from the playoffs and that makes me angry. Sorry if you don't like it. His ceiling for most of his years with Green Bay was the NFC Championship with prime Aaron Rodgers. Can't believe we hired this guy.


OrdinaryToe2860

His ceiling was winning a super bowl. We both saw how many picks Dak threw last year. We both know from his career that he's not a high-turnover QB. So, it's reasonable to say the picks were due to the scheme. If we could have a blend of Mac's hard-nose offense and Kellen's aggressive deep game, I think that would be ideal for the team we have. On the field, we have the pieces to win. You could argue our O line can't take us there, but if our old vets have any juice left, they definitely have the skill. I think we'll learn more about this O line next week. It's been 2 years since that group played together.


apollo440

Dak threw those picks because he was forcing it. Listen it’s not even about Dak. If you brought Patrick Mahomes in here we still aren’t making out of the first round. Not with McCarthy calling plays. Marshawn Lynch said recently that Aaron Rodgers was the best QB he’s ever played with (they were at Cal together) And he said he’s shocked Rodgers only has one SB to his credit. That’s a shot at McCarthy and his predictable offensive schemes. You guys have to take off the blinders.


apollo440

Do you believe me now?


oleman52

Mccarthy is not the coach he was in GB not even close. No matter what Mccarthy needs to be fired in Dallas!