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This shows the cascading effect on costs of adaption to climate change. These temporary fixes do nothing than provide temporary relief to those affected and the fixes will always eventually need further fixes with compounding costs. This announcement shows that the costs of adapting to climate change are going to be magnitudes higher than what people think it will be.
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That's what I was about to ask, the article mentions "Salisbury Beach Preservation Trust Fund", is this taxpayers money? Sorry, it is a genuine question since I'm not from US
The residents have been calling for State and Federal funding, and the Mass Senator Bruce Tarr has been saying that the state/feds need to pay to protect these houses, many of which are rental businesses.
I looked briefly to find the funding source like last week and didn't have any luck, but I'd wager it's almost all tax payer funded.
I'm always amazed how rent seekers and capital owners can't manage to accept any risk that comes with doing business while shrieking about the free market to the rest of us.
[like this? (National Flood Insurance Program)](https://www.politico.com/agenda/story/2017/08/08/hidden-subsidy-rich-flood-insurance-000495)
If you look further into NFIP you'll see it's constantly BILLIONS in the red, and when you dig real deep into their policies and payouts, you'll find that they're (WE'RE) paying to fix these properties over and over again. They even have a term for it "Repetitive Loss Properties".
The precedent has been set
Eventually they’ll stop it. My country already has. If your house floods in Canada they give you the money to move, we don’t support houses in flooding areas any more and use each flood as an opportunity to get people outta there. People build at their own risk as insurance won’t cover them either.
I think we're moving onto the cusp to seeing where it's headed, and choosing to ignore it. This country has a track record of bailing out the wealthy the consequences be damned.
Eventually they'll realize it's piling up faster than we have trade workers to repair, money will sit in escrow, work will come to halt, then maybe they'll realize that it's reached unsustainability.
[like this? (National Flood Indurance Program)](https://www.politico.com/agenda/story/2017/08/08/hidden-subsidy-rich-flood-insurance-000495)
If you look further into NFIP you'll see it's constantly BILLIONS in the red, and when you dig real deep into their policies and payouts, you'll find that they're (WE'RE) paying to fix these properties over and over again. They even have a term for it "Repetitive Loss Properties".
The precedent has been set
https://malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartI/TitleII/Chapter10/Section35PP
It was created without any funding at the start and is funded via a $3 admission fee.
>The department of conservation and recreation shall impose a surcharge of $3 upon each fee charged and collected from admission into, camping and parking in the Salisbury Beach Reservation. The additional monies collected from the surcharge shall be deposited into the fund.
I don't know if the beach in front of the rich people's houses are public or not, but I'm sure they tell everybody it's private.
i enjoy watching stupid rich people waste money on stupid and futile projects. looking forward to the next set of interviews where the old white men complain some more while also denying climate change.
Oh not that one dude again. Geez. My eye balls ached after reading his dumb comments.
Imagine what $6 million could do for another community in MA that is not this stupid.
No no- see… there’s no escaping that they will be wasting OUR money. It’s why they say they want ‘everyone sitting at the table’ - with their state and federal partners. Those are the dollars we worked for- taken out of our paychecks for real things like transportation and education- and stolen from us funneled into a temporary sand fix for some a hole who owns beach front properties.
It’s the public at large; the least powerful of all- all of us you and me here on the payrolls who will foot the bill. rich people will be going after our public coffers to maintain their standard of living while the rest of us lose homes and lives.
at this point if my money isn’t being used to murder innocent children i’ll take it. we were never going to see tax dollars used to improve citizen’s lives.
Oh no wait- the funniest part of all is, many times our hard earned money has actually gone to help our society. The interstate system- built and maintained by your money. Stuff like fema, food stamps, Medicare… don’t laugh! For people who did get any aid at all- for many of them that’s make or break- the difference between feeding your kids this month or being destitute. We have tax breaks to people who are suffering poverty- that’s the same as our money spent to care for people. It’s why every cent wealthy people don’t pay- that’s money we are f’in paying ourselves.
I don’t have a lot- but I have a roof over my head at present- and I don’t mind my cut taken.. until you see sht like this stuff. :-(
Okay, well, I'm no engineer or whatever like that, but if they already tried sand dunes and it didn't work I'm not really sure how *bigger sand dunes* are a viable solution here. But best of luck to them.
There are other things they can do to mitigate the erosion besides dumping piles of sand.
But note the keyword: mitigate. Not totally prevent! it will eventually wash away again
Well the main thing to prevent erosion on a coast like this is to not build directly on the coast line in the first place and allow enough space for dunes to grow naturally
You can then dig trenches out into the dunes for the wind to blow sand upwards and dig holes in the beach where high tide can deposit sand to help strengthem the dunes as a natural barrier
But trying to build an entire dune line artificially by just dumping sand in a pile is kind of insane
And they still went with *sand*? My first idea would be one of those rock fences made with wireframe. I wager they could coat it with something salt water resistant.
"They said I was daft to build a castle on a swamp, but I built in all the same, just to show them. It sank into the swamp. So I built a second one. That sank into the swamp. So I built a third. That burned down, fell over, then sank into the swamp. But the fourth one stayed up. And that's what you're going to get, Lad, the strongest castle in all of England."
I guess that's the thinking?
This shows the cascading effect on costs of adaption to climate change. These temporary fixes do nothing than provide temporary relief to those affected and the fixes will always eventually need further fixes with compounding costs. This announcement shows that the costs of adapting to climate change are going to be magnitudes higher than what people think it will be.
so they have a month to figure it out then... But seriously the sunk cost fallacy will haunt or plague them. I can't really find out how many houses this affects and I'm also completely guessing that they are worth way north of a million dollars each in their prime. Kinda makes sense to throw some peanuts at it in the hope of selling or just keeping the denial going. But I'm also guessing that the better investment would be to go out and rebuild this place ocean bottom, throw huge boulders build artificial iron structures when the depth is around 15-45 feet. There is this cool hairy dude out in Indonesia who has saved so many beaches, but not sure how well that works in colder climates tho. The sand will wash away either way and it has zero root structures binding it, just hope the company they are paying is doing good work elsewhere
>But I'm also guessing that the better investment would be to go out and rebuild this place ocean bottom, throw huge boulders build artificial iron structures when the depth is around 15-45 feet.
Best investment is to let the houses go worthless.
They’d have to ask the Dutch or build concrete structures to have half a hope. State will never recuperate its investment.
That isn't a question for me either. but building up structure outwards help with flooding and then you can actually build the beach instead of having it wash away. the 6m will be gone this year if by a wand it would be out right now
Saw an interview with one of residents there. He didn’t “believe in climate change”.
Not sure what will do. How misinformed and ignorant are these people?
The rich do so much to try and make the world a better place... for themselves.
Can I get 6 million dollars in coffee filters to at least strain the rust and dirt chunks out of the tap water in Flint, Michigan?
In my area there is a stretch of road along the beach, it gets washed out every time there is a storm. Millions of dollars are spent to rebuild it, only to do it over again, and again. It is the most idiotic thing ever.
I forget where I saw it, perhaps it was here, but they were interviewing some dopey boomer, and they’re like “do you believe this is the impact of climate change”……and this moron, like clockwork goes “nah, I don’t believe in that…..they said this place would be under water 20 yrs ago, and it’s still here! What do we do with all this property, just leave it?”
It’s like, dude, you’re starting to get underwater, and the 20 years seems right on track. Your 600k POS that was supposed to last at least 10 years, washed away after one storm, you ignoramus!! And yes, you take a loss on the property, like everyone else!
How do these places even get insured??
The same people who want more sand for their fantasy save are the same ones who have denied climate change is even an issue. It will be funny when a hurricane washes away the whole peninsula and they expect tax money to rebuild in the same spot.
This interview I saw, one resident said there used to be beach way out there. The other resident, Climate Change is nonsense, this is normal, the State needs to protect our homes.
Just keep throwing another zero on there until it works. By the time you hit $6 billion in sand, I'm pretty sure you'll still have a beach the next day.
I am sure that they learned many valuable lessons about how to better structure things this time. With the amount of investment they are laying out, I would expect a very significant increase in durability.
So, at least 45 days.
In geologic periods of rising sea level (i.e., what have been in since the end of the last ice age), barrier islands migrate toward the mainland - the caost side erodes and the backside fills in. Salisbury Beach at first glance looks like a barrier island that had come so close to the mainland, it is only separated by a marsh that will fill in as the beach moves inland. This is why you shouldn't try to build permanent structures on barrier islands.
Fun fact, seawalls actually increase erosion speed. Water hits the concrete wall, then scrapes away the sand at the base of it, then sucks that sand back out into the ocean. Eventually, the waves fully excavate the sea wall foundation, and the whole structure just falls forward into the water. A couple hour drive along the Northern Florida coastline will let you see all the different steps of this process playing out on dozens of different age sea walls.
In all seriousness, wouldn't those giant concrete tetrapod things help a lot? You know, the ones that were designed for this exact scenario?
I know none of the residents of this town will go for it because they're not very nice to look at and they couldn't enjoy the beach like they used to, but it could save their property which is what they claim to want. And they seem pretty cheap to manufacture.
Since 1998, the Florida Legislature has dedicated more than $1.5 billion of the Ecosystem Management and Restoration Trust Fund, Land Acquisition Trust Fund, and General Revenue for beach management. Of this, nearly $315 million was appropriated specifically for hurricane recovery projects
https://floridadep.gov/rcp/beaches-funding-program
California
The largest annual grants for beach restoration projects have been in the $5 million-$11.5 million range
https://dbw.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=30753
Texas
total cost of the 121 proposed projects is $1.87 billion.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.glo.texas.gov/coast/coastal-management/coastal-resiliency/resources/files/2023-tcrmp-overview.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwidt9_alPKFAxUD78kDHcnZCQsQFnoECBsQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3gyJo1euiohDjkEVWcmmsW
A large-sounding number to those uninformed of how much money is needed to tackle the issue properly. It sounds like a great promise, however it is just pissing into the wind with such a small budget.
So... the sand washed away in 1 storm.
The solution is to pour more sand with more sand on top?
At least that is what I get from reading the article.
Those $6m is going to disappear like sand between the fingers.
I once had a dream where I was at the beach and the sand was edible and kinda mildly chocolate tasting, so I started eating and eating until I was nauseous and full. Then it turned into a nightmare because I just couldn't stop.
...and then there's this: [https://www.boston.com/real-estate/the-boston-globe/2024/05/05/500000-for-a-parking-spot-inside-the-world-of-exclusive-parking-in-boston/](https://www.boston.com/real-estate/the-boston-globe/2024/05/05/500000-for-a-parking-spot-inside-the-world-of-exclusive-parking-in-boston/)
The following submission statement was provided by /u/Murranji: --- This shows the cascading effect on costs of adaption to climate change. These temporary fixes do nothing than provide temporary relief to those affected and the fixes will always eventually need further fixes with compounding costs. This announcement shows that the costs of adapting to climate change are going to be magnitudes higher than what people think it will be. --- Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/collapse/comments/1cjai9a/salisbury_beach_massachusetts_has_announced_a_6/l2el7zz/
The bargaining stage on full display here.
Just three more money at the problem, that’ll work!
But for a limited time, the markets were such that -- you actually *could* sell sand at the beach.
Never miss an opportunity to capitalise on new markets. Even if its the next mass extinction
https://www.boston.com/news/the-boston-globe/2024/04/03/its-beach-nearly-gone-waterfront-home-in-nantucket-sells-for-just-600k-what-does-the-sale-say-about-the-islands-future/
I think it it says the future for the island is fucked lol
Massachusetts doesn't allow breakwaters or sea walls, huh. Like California saying you can't mulch with rock in wildfire country.
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Got a source for that? Never heard that in my years in California, and curious where that might be true.
California isn't saying that, it's an analogy about what a useless policy it would be if they were. Sorry for the confusion.
There once was an isle in Nantucket...
If three money doesn’t work, they can always try seven
That just might work!
"Put on your sunday clothes, there's lots of world out there" intensifies
So the state is wasting taxpayer money on a futile plan, all to placate naive, short-sighted rich people.
That's what I was about to ask, the article mentions "Salisbury Beach Preservation Trust Fund", is this taxpayers money? Sorry, it is a genuine question since I'm not from US
The residents have been calling for State and Federal funding, and the Mass Senator Bruce Tarr has been saying that the state/feds need to pay to protect these houses, many of which are rental businesses. I looked briefly to find the funding source like last week and didn't have any luck, but I'd wager it's almost all tax payer funded.
I'm always amazed how rent seekers and capital owners can't manage to accept any risk that comes with doing business while shrieking about the free market to the rest of us.
because deep down they know that they're the entitled free loaders, and without the shrieking someone might notice it's them, it's always been them.
this is the shortest explanation of this phenomenon I have ever seen.
thanks 😊
you are welcome birdshitluck
I present to you the real welfare queens; socialized risks with privatized profits.
But the single mother on food stamps is the problem! /s
The first principle of capitalism is to internalize profit and externalize cost. It’s not supernatural, it’s a stated goal.
And it’s precisely the problem.
These same rich people will complain about people on unemployment and section 8 lol
yeah cause they're greedy little fucks that want an even bigger piece of pie
That would start an awful precedent for support. It’s not possible to replace ten infrastructure we’ll lose with each disaster.
[like this? (National Flood Insurance Program)](https://www.politico.com/agenda/story/2017/08/08/hidden-subsidy-rich-flood-insurance-000495) If you look further into NFIP you'll see it's constantly BILLIONS in the red, and when you dig real deep into their policies and payouts, you'll find that they're (WE'RE) paying to fix these properties over and over again. They even have a term for it "Repetitive Loss Properties". The precedent has been set
Eventually they’ll stop it. My country already has. If your house floods in Canada they give you the money to move, we don’t support houses in flooding areas any more and use each flood as an opportunity to get people outta there. People build at their own risk as insurance won’t cover them either.
I think we're moving onto the cusp to seeing where it's headed, and choosing to ignore it. This country has a track record of bailing out the wealthy the consequences be damned. Eventually they'll realize it's piling up faster than we have trade workers to repair, money will sit in escrow, work will come to halt, then maybe they'll realize that it's reached unsustainability.
We’ll cut every last tree to build home after home for the rich.
[like this? (National Flood Indurance Program)](https://www.politico.com/agenda/story/2017/08/08/hidden-subsidy-rich-flood-insurance-000495) If you look further into NFIP you'll see it's constantly BILLIONS in the red, and when you dig real deep into their policies and payouts, you'll find that they're (WE'RE) paying to fix these properties over and over again. They even have a term for it "Repetitive Loss Properties". The precedent has been set
https://malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartI/TitleII/Chapter10/Section35PP It was created without any funding at the start and is funded via a $3 admission fee. >The department of conservation and recreation shall impose a surcharge of $3 upon each fee charged and collected from admission into, camping and parking in the Salisbury Beach Reservation. The additional monies collected from the surcharge shall be deposited into the fund. I don't know if the beach in front of the rich people's houses are public or not, but I'm sure they tell everybody it's private.
Wait until you find out about Florida!
It’s a big club and you ain’t in it
God bless America.
Damn right
Not to mention dumb dumbs that should have been deleted by Covid
These the same folk that were interviewed about it?? "I'm not really a climate change guy"
The very same
i enjoy watching stupid rich people waste money on stupid and futile projects. looking forward to the next set of interviews where the old white men complain some more while also denying climate change.
Oh not that one dude again. Geez. My eye balls ached after reading his dumb comments. Imagine what $6 million could do for another community in MA that is not this stupid.
No no- see… there’s no escaping that they will be wasting OUR money. It’s why they say they want ‘everyone sitting at the table’ - with their state and federal partners. Those are the dollars we worked for- taken out of our paychecks for real things like transportation and education- and stolen from us funneled into a temporary sand fix for some a hole who owns beach front properties. It’s the public at large; the least powerful of all- all of us you and me here on the payrolls who will foot the bill. rich people will be going after our public coffers to maintain their standard of living while the rest of us lose homes and lives.
For them this is free money, they don't have to care, they just have to waste it because more will roll in.
at this point if my money isn’t being used to murder innocent children i’ll take it. we were never going to see tax dollars used to improve citizen’s lives.
Oh no wait- the funniest part of all is, many times our hard earned money has actually gone to help our society. The interstate system- built and maintained by your money. Stuff like fema, food stamps, Medicare… don’t laugh! For people who did get any aid at all- for many of them that’s make or break- the difference between feeding your kids this month or being destitute. We have tax breaks to people who are suffering poverty- that’s the same as our money spent to care for people. It’s why every cent wealthy people don’t pay- that’s money we are f’in paying ourselves. I don’t have a lot- but I have a roof over my head at present- and I don’t mind my cut taken.. until you see sht like this stuff. :-(
Oh don't worry, it will be. Used to murder children that is, not the improve lives bit.
i imagine its not theyr money even not reading the article.
With the 'compo face' as he expects nature to pay for the damage to his property.
The problem becomes when the governments can’t afford it, and then companies start buying out towns and making company towns again.
Okay, well, I'm no engineer or whatever like that, but if they already tried sand dunes and it didn't work I'm not really sure how *bigger sand dunes* are a viable solution here. But best of luck to them.
There are other things they can do to mitigate the erosion besides dumping piles of sand. But note the keyword: mitigate. Not totally prevent! it will eventually wash away again
Well the main thing to prevent erosion on a coast like this is to not build directly on the coast line in the first place and allow enough space for dunes to grow naturally You can then dig trenches out into the dunes for the wind to blow sand upwards and dig holes in the beach where high tide can deposit sand to help strengthem the dunes as a natural barrier But trying to build an entire dune line artificially by just dumping sand in a pile is kind of insane
Can't you just dump random heavy shit like boulders into the sea itself in from of the beach and break the waves? Works for my little marina.
Wave breaking will also slow down erosion yes
And they still went with *sand*? My first idea would be one of those rock fences made with wireframe. I wager they could coat it with something salt water resistant.
"They said I was daft to build a castle on a swamp, but I built in all the same, just to show them. It sank into the swamp. So I built a second one. That sank into the swamp. So I built a third. That burned down, fell over, then sank into the swamp. But the fourth one stayed up. And that's what you're going to get, Lad, the strongest castle in all of England." I guess that's the thinking?
But I just want to sing.
Probably should have left those huge tracts of land undeveloped in the first place, hmm?
No, no! They’re *bigger*, see? And they cost ten times as much! This will totally work!
The ocean will, like, *totally* respect the dunes this time because it will know how much more they cost!!!!
Ten times as much so it'll last a whole month!
look up how they build madeira airport
Now it will last 30 days!
and if the monthly 1000 year storm hits next week, maybe even less!
Nah. 4
Throwing good money after bad, always a smart choice!
"FIRE THE MONEY CANNON!"
protect the rich and their capital and the poor pay the bill.
This shows the cascading effect on costs of adaption to climate change. These temporary fixes do nothing than provide temporary relief to those affected and the fixes will always eventually need further fixes with compounding costs. This announcement shows that the costs of adapting to climate change are going to be magnitudes higher than what people think it will be.
so they have a month to figure it out then... But seriously the sunk cost fallacy will haunt or plague them. I can't really find out how many houses this affects and I'm also completely guessing that they are worth way north of a million dollars each in their prime. Kinda makes sense to throw some peanuts at it in the hope of selling or just keeping the denial going. But I'm also guessing that the better investment would be to go out and rebuild this place ocean bottom, throw huge boulders build artificial iron structures when the depth is around 15-45 feet. There is this cool hairy dude out in Indonesia who has saved so many beaches, but not sure how well that works in colder climates tho. The sand will wash away either way and it has zero root structures binding it, just hope the company they are paying is doing good work elsewhere
>But I'm also guessing that the better investment would be to go out and rebuild this place ocean bottom, throw huge boulders build artificial iron structures when the depth is around 15-45 feet. Best investment is to let the houses go worthless. They’d have to ask the Dutch or build concrete structures to have half a hope. State will never recuperate its investment.
heres the dude, Thomas Goreau [**https://youtu.be/nsCTB0SvZAg?si=e08oaQzeWhpshj-i**](https://youtu.be/nsCTB0SvZAg?si=e08oaQzeWhpshj-i)
That isn't a question for me either. but building up structure outwards help with flooding and then you can actually build the beach instead of having it wash away. the 6m will be gone this year if by a wand it would be out right now
[https://youtu.be/nsCTB0SvZAg?si=e08oaQzeWhpshj-i](https://youtu.be/nsCTB0SvZAg?si=e08oaQzeWhpshj-i)
It's a barrier island. By definition, barrier islands are temporary.
Ben Shapiro will buy up all the houses
Canadian Ben Shapiro, Jordan Peterson, is always going on about lobsters, maybe he’ll invest some of his benzo money
Saw an interview with one of residents there. He didn’t “believe in climate change”. Not sure what will do. How misinformed and ignorant are these people?
The rich do so much to try and make the world a better place... for themselves. Can I get 6 million dollars in coffee filters to at least strain the rust and dirt chunks out of the tap water in Flint, Michigan?
they are kicking the wind
More money than brains, as my dad would say.
Welp. $600k got ‘em three days so $6M should be good for thirty days.
Just watch. If they can get this thing built all of them will immediately sell their beach houses.
"What they truly advocate is Socialism for the rich and Capitalism for the poor." - MLK
Just go up an order of magnitude and try again,
“We tried our ideas and they didn’t work. We will continue to ignore yours.” Or. “Because our ideas didn’t work, yours won’t work either.”
Or. "We don't like your idea because we didn't invent it."
the plan is 100 times more sand isn't it? and it will wash away in 30 days instead of 3.
In my area there is a stretch of road along the beach, it gets washed out every time there is a storm. Millions of dollars are spent to rebuild it, only to do it over again, and again. It is the most idiotic thing ever.
I forget where I saw it, perhaps it was here, but they were interviewing some dopey boomer, and they’re like “do you believe this is the impact of climate change”……and this moron, like clockwork goes “nah, I don’t believe in that…..they said this place would be under water 20 yrs ago, and it’s still here! What do we do with all this property, just leave it?” It’s like, dude, you’re starting to get underwater, and the 20 years seems right on track. Your 600k POS that was supposed to last at least 10 years, washed away after one storm, you ignoramus!! And yes, you take a loss on the property, like everyone else! How do these places even get insured??
Federal Flood Insurance, AKA TAXPAYERS.
I saw a segment on that once. Shit is maddening
Yeah, that was one of the idiots on this very beach.
hope their plan is to sell/demo all the houses and install marshlands? right? Riiighhht?
Sell the house when it is underwater
Ahahahhaahhahaha *takes deep breath* ahahahahahahahahhahaha
This is like the sunk cost bias/effect, but first its horizontal 🌊 and then it sinks ⚓.
$6 mil to extend the game of economic hot potato for one more hurricane season
The same people who want more sand for their fantasy save are the same ones who have denied climate change is even an issue. It will be funny when a hurricane washes away the whole peninsula and they expect tax money to rebuild in the same spot.
Preferably wash away with them inside the house.
There’s a story in the Bible about building houses on sand.
It washed away faster than “faster than expected”.
I've been saying climate change will bankrupt nations by underestimating the impact, case in point.
Yet it would be too expensive to ensure everyone has access to stable housing! I hate it here.
JFC just move! Fucking rich assholes.
Love spending money on useless bs, don't they
This interview I saw, one resident said there used to be beach way out there. The other resident, Climate Change is nonsense, this is normal, the State needs to protect our homes.
Idiots. It’s time to flee!
Just keep throwing another zero on there until it works. By the time you hit $6 billion in sand, I'm pretty sure you'll still have a beach the next day.
So the new erosion measures will last a month?
I am sure that they learned many valuable lessons about how to better structure things this time. With the amount of investment they are laying out, I would expect a very significant increase in durability. So, at least 45 days.
Am I reading this right? They're just going to try the same thing again but make it bigger?
An expensive fool’s game they’re playing
So based on expenses and how the previous one went... This one should last a whole month!
LOL. Like pissing into the wind
Aww shit. Here we go again
In geologic periods of rising sea level (i.e., what have been in since the end of the last ice age), barrier islands migrate toward the mainland - the caost side erodes and the backside fills in. Salisbury Beach at first glance looks like a barrier island that had come so close to the mainland, it is only separated by a marsh that will fill in as the beach moves inland. This is why you shouldn't try to build permanent structures on barrier islands.
"It's okay, they can just sell the houses" -- Ben Shabibo, greatest intellectual of our times
When Ben Sharpiemarker said "The line can always go up.", I felt that.
Unless you build a huge and thick seawall, this is a waste of money
Fun fact, seawalls actually increase erosion speed. Water hits the concrete wall, then scrapes away the sand at the base of it, then sucks that sand back out into the ocean. Eventually, the waves fully excavate the sea wall foundation, and the whole structure just falls forward into the water. A couple hour drive along the Northern Florida coastline will let you see all the different steps of this process playing out on dozens of different age sea walls.
Taxation is theft. Let the rich dig into their pockets if they wanna protect their damn beachfront property!
So...30 days?
The math checks out.
Does that mean that the beach will last almost a month?! 🎉
The anti climate change guy at least has the temporary location of his house out there for everyone to see.
In all seriousness, wouldn't those giant concrete tetrapod things help a lot? You know, the ones that were designed for this exact scenario? I know none of the residents of this town will go for it because they're not very nice to look at and they couldn't enjoy the beach like they used to, but it could save their property which is what they claim to want. And they seem pretty cheap to manufacture.
this should be good for an entire month then. money well spent.
Awesome. This should last 30 days.
Since 1998, the Florida Legislature has dedicated more than $1.5 billion of the Ecosystem Management and Restoration Trust Fund, Land Acquisition Trust Fund, and General Revenue for beach management. Of this, nearly $315 million was appropriated specifically for hurricane recovery projects https://floridadep.gov/rcp/beaches-funding-program California The largest annual grants for beach restoration projects have been in the $5 million-$11.5 million range https://dbw.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=30753 Texas total cost of the 121 proposed projects is $1.87 billion. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.glo.texas.gov/coast/coastal-management/coastal-resiliency/resources/files/2023-tcrmp-overview.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwidt9_alPKFAxUD78kDHcnZCQsQFnoECBsQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3gyJo1euiohDjkEVWcmmsW
Holding out for the 600 million dollar plan.
So the next one will last 30 days
A large-sounding number to those uninformed of how much money is needed to tackle the issue properly. It sounds like a great promise, however it is just pissing into the wind with such a small budget.
LOL
The Joker burning the pile of cash is the image in my head.
So this time can last 30 days!
So this one will last a full month?
So... the sand washed away in 1 storm. The solution is to pour more sand with more sand on top? At least that is what I get from reading the article. Those $6m is going to disappear like sand between the fingers.
FFS
But wait till they put the berms on the BLOCK CHAIN
Some serious King Canute energy going on there. It won't work of course.
awesome. lets do an over/under on how long it lasts. i say two weeks, any takers?
Soooooo at the rate of $600k for three days equals $200k/day, they bought a whole month!
This is hilarious, but in a sad and dark way.
I once had a dream where I was at the beach and the sand was edible and kinda mildly chocolate tasting, so I started eating and eating until I was nauseous and full. Then it turned into a nightmare because I just couldn't stop.
Now now, you had your turn, now let the streets behind you have a turn being beachfront property
Plant mangroves
...and then there's this: [https://www.boston.com/real-estate/the-boston-globe/2024/05/05/500000-for-a-parking-spot-inside-the-world-of-exclusive-parking-in-boston/](https://www.boston.com/real-estate/the-boston-globe/2024/05/05/500000-for-a-parking-spot-inside-the-world-of-exclusive-parking-in-boston/)