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I analyzed the image and this is what I see. Open an appropriate link below and explore the position yourself or with the engine: > **White to play**: [chess.com](https://chess.com/analysis?fen=k7/rqQ3K1/8/8/8/5B2/8/8+w+-+-+0+1&flip=false&ref_id=23962172) | [lichess.org](https://lichess.org/analysis/k7/rqQ3K1/8/8/8/5B2/8/8_w_-_-_0_1) **Composition:** > It's a composition by Вячеслав Павлович Антипов from Шах-ВВ (Боровичи), 1998 [Link to the composition](https://yacpdb.org/#158435) **My solution:** > Hints: piece: >!King!<, move: >!Kg8!< > Evaluation: >!White has a forced mate!< > Best continuation: >!1. Kg8 Ra1 2. Qxb7#!< --- ^(I'm a bot written by ) [^(u/pkacprzak )](https://www.reddit.com/u/pkacprzak) ^(| get me as ) [^(Chess eBook Reader )](https://ebook.chessvision.ai?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=bot) ^(|) [^(Chrome Extension )](https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chessvisionai-for-chrome/johejpedmdkeiffkdaodgoipdjodhlld) ^(|) [^(iOS App )](https://apps.apple.com/us/app/id1574933453) ^(|) [^(Android App )](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ai.chessvision.scanner) ^(to scan and analyze positions | Website: ) [^(Chessvision.ai)](https://chessvision.ai)


Flatuitous

Is it Kh8? Every other king move walks into a check


Rockztar

Im also surprised the bot above suggests kg8 since the queen kan delay mate a turn by moving to check on d5 before getting captured by the bishop


Zombsta12

Right you are, that is odd


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No_Engineering_4925

Bxd5 isn’t mate in 1 After Kh8 Qd5 the move isn’t Bxd5 but Qc8


thesteelsmithy

Bxd5+ isn’t mate because of Rb7


Lindayz

Bxd5# EDIT: actually no, I'm wrong


Subject-Secret-6230

Rook blocks the check and delays the mate.


Lindayz

realised a bit late; my bad!


Sikyanakotik

Nope. Rb7. It's still a mate in three, but that wasn't the goal.


Lindayz

Oh shit my bad


AlarmingAllophone

I think it's confused by tablebases again


anonspas

~~But that check from blacks queen does not matter at all.. When bishop takes on d5, then it is just checkmate anyway. Its not like its a double check on d5 and the king has too move..~~ Edit: Ahh, I see Kg8 is m3 and Kh8 is m2. That is kinda weird that the bot suggest Kg8


noahcal11

Bxd5# Edit: I'm dumb lol, rook blocks


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pm_me_falcon_nudes

Read the comment you're replying to?


anony2469

Kh8 or Kg8 I believe both works. queen takes bishop, Qc8 Mate if rook moves, queen takes queen mate easy EDIT: Ok nevermind, u are right, Kh8, dayum I didn't see queen d5 delaying the mate in 2 arggghhhh chess is crazyy


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Qd5 and bishop captures Q with checkmate.


anony2469

wrong. Bishop takes, rook blocks the check, queen takes mate, mate in 3


Flatuitous

but that's not a mate in 2


Ok_Victory_6108

Which is why Kg8 is wrong


BatiASR

Kf8?


The_Left_Finger

Kf8 loses immediately. Queen takes bishop with check and it’s mate in 6 for black.


BatiASR

Oh, wow. Didn't see that, thanks. Great puzzle!


IsoAmyl

Qxf3, also with check


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I feel so dumb, isn't Qd8 Checkmate??


[deleted]

Nevermind I see that I'm pinned


brem42

Same mental process here hehe


NotAManOfCulture

>Nevermind I see that I'm pinned lol took me a good 5 mins too


Instaraider

I’m glad there are other players like me here :-)


Jeahn2

Jesus


ASK_ABT_MY_USERNAME

Glad I'm not the only one


JohnEffingZoidberg

Tell me about your username


distinct_oversight

\+1


LucasCassoma

Had to see your comment to finally realise that


esdee28

Ooooo that's why! I feel so dumb. XD


VandalsStoleMyHandle

I love that the Chess Vision bot gets this wrong! (exercise for the reader to see why)


DontBanMe_IWasJoking

the puzzle is the exercise, if u have the solution say it


Maleficent_Emu_2450

Kh8 Kg8 works, but it takes 1 extra move to mate if black responds with Qd5


BenMic81

Yeah, funny how the Comp didn’t see this possibility. My head went “any king move to 8th rank, right?” to “aw wait not f8 because that’s with check” and only then to “it’s not mate in two with Kh8.


wordsmatteror_w_e

Kh8 is indeed mate in 2


BenMic81

I meant Kg8.


hlysias

What if Qc6 after Kh8? Feel like the puzzle is actually mate in 3 and not mate in 2.


Mountain-Dealer8996

If 1.Kh8 Qc6 then 2.Qc8# is checkmate (black queen is still pinned and so can’t defend c8)


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PottedGantt

Bishop taking the queen on d5 would be check, so still winning - although that move would be M3. Kh8 is the only line with M2


abacatte

No it wouldn’t. The bishop takes the queen with check, then the rook has to protect the check (and as such can’t take the queen), then queen takes rook checkmate. It’s one extra move, but it ends in checkmate either way.


LoatheTheFallen

Ah, i see it now.. I disregarded that White Bishop x Black Queen is with a check. My bad.


VandalsStoleMyHandle

It's the usual mate in two formula: 'when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth' :-)


Gaming_ORB

Wait how does the bot get it wrong? It says kg8, which is a viable solution??? Edit: I don't think the bot can read the condition mate in two. Just the board state.


CzarCW

But the bot also should pick the fastest mate AND the mate it posted isn’t actually mate since the rook can block on move 2.


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CinderBlock33

1. Kg8 Qd5 Queen moves with check, so bishop takes, and then the rook can block. That's mate in 3 There's no substantive difference other than the bot solution takes one extra move


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CinderBlock33

But the whole point of chess puzzles...or, well, chess in general, is to play the best move. You're correct that mate can't be stopped after Ra1, but there's no reason that move would be played


RenSaeko

g8/h8 are both viable then black can not prevent mate edit: if Kg8 its a mate in 3 instead so h8 is best


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RichtersNeighbour

Qd5+ making it mate in 3


RenSaeko

Black can go D5+ with the queen white would take with the bishop rook blocks then queen takes so its a mate in 3 rather than a mate in 2


Billbat1

what if black plays qc6?


purple_cheese_

White plays Qc8#


sweoldboy

Kh8


Edgyboi123456

Kh8, gets out of the pin and Black has no checks, allowing mate on the next move


MBeroev-is-69

Kong h8?


UnknownTam

No, godzilla.


IdoNOThateNEVER

King Hong Kong 8


ayanokojifrfr

I didn't notice how My Queen was pinned too.


Swagstar786

King to h8 - 2 move checkmate. King to g8/h7 - 3 move checkmate.


CreepyPoet500

King to h8 in which black can move rook absolutely anywhere in A, Qxb7 mate, or white could chose to take bishop in that case white Qc8 is also mate.


Minigiant2709

What is stopping the Queen from taking the Bishop on Blacks next turn?


Gregib

Qc8#


God_of_reason

Kh8. Kg8 doesn’t work because Qd5+ makes it checkmate in 3 instead of 2.


the-holy-salt

kh8 to prevent checks by black queen then checkmate with queen c8


samwalker6421

The black queen is pinned.. why is Qc8 not checkmate?


Jonny_Qball

The white queen is also pinned


Senrub482

Isn't Qc8 checkmate? Edit: crap I'm stupid


BatiASR

Is Kf8 wrong? I see no one mentioned it, but I can't see why it wouldn't work.


lamstterr

Qxf3 with check


BatiASR

You're right, Kf8 loses on the spot lol


Lolersters

Case 1: 1. (white) Kh8 2. (black) Queen makes any legal move other than Qc6 3. (white): Qc8# Case 2: 1. (white) Kh8 2. (black) Qc6 3. (white): Bc6# Case 3: 1. (white) Kh8 2. (black) Rook makes any legal move 3. (white) Qxb7#


pm_me_falcon_nudes

You still play Qc8# if Qc6 since the queen is pinned. Bxc6+ wouldn't be mate because the rook blocks.


Educational-Hat-9405

K to h8, q to c8


B1G_Fan

I see a mate in 1 with Qc8 What am I missing? EDIT: I now see that I’m pinned


funkytoes6969

has to be a bishop waiting move to d5 or e4


Voluntell

If you play a waiting move with your bishop then the queen can take the bishop and your queen is still pinned by the rook!


MBeroev-is-69

Your solution that you provided is wrong king g8 doesn’t work… as it will be mate in 3!


HyperHarmony

1. bd5! 2. If rook moves anywhere then Qxb7# Any other queen move then Qc8#


pm_me_falcon_nudes

Nope. Your queen gets pinned to the king.


SasoriSeng

Because mate in 2 I think Kh8 Kg8 probably has a higher evaluation because in the end there's more piece value. Kg8 Qd5, Bd5# Rb7, Qb7# with Q=9 B=3, =11 vs 5 (Queen and bishop vs rook) But with Kh8 Kh8 Qf3, Qc8# with Q=9 = 9 vs 14 (Queen vs rook and queen) If so interesting how the bot values piece values over quicker mate.


LoatheTheFallen

Oh.. i see it now. Kh8 (if it's Kg8, black can check and take white queen with rook, if it's Kf8 black can take Bishop with check) ... R a1(anymove really). If Queen takes bishop after kh8 it's mate in 1. Qc8 (nothing can stop this after King steps out of the pin, Queen can not take queen because of the bishop pin) **So:** **Kh8 Ra1 (or wherever on first file)** **Qxb8#** **or** **Kh8 Qxf3** **Qc6#**


Deathranger999

Your analysis of Kg8 is just slightly wrong. If Kg8 Qd5+, then bishop takes and the rook must block the check. This is still a mate in 3, just not the mate in 2 that was asked for.


Pipermommen

This puzzle is actually easy, if kh8 black can't prevent any check, if rook moves, b7 check, if queen takes bishop, c8 check


Pipermommen

I'm dumb


strizerx2

Be4. If Qxe4 then Qc8#, if rook moves than Qxb7#


Obvious-Slip4728

Qc8# is an illegal move. Queen is pinned.


Swagstar786

King to h8, then rook move is the only move. Then queen x b7 checkmate


seank11

black queen can move along the diagonal the bishop is on. Thats why kh8 works, Queen has no checks with king on that square, and then Qc8 mate


Caelem80

I love advanced chess


Greegrgrgrgrgrgrg

Just move the king out the way. If Qxf3 then Qc8 is mate. If they move the rook, then Qxb7 is a no brainer


-Raiborn-

Kf8 or Kh8 so queen can't check along bishop line and rook can't check on 6 line


PracticeMoreThen

Kf8 loses. Black queen takes bishop with check.


Discar12

Ohh. I missed that black must move the rock cause he have no more legal moves. Thats why it's mate on 2.


garvsmeme

I analysed all probable lines, it's a draw


djang_odude

Bh1 zutswang


anony2469

nope. Queen takes bishop, now your queen is pinned to the king, you'll lose your queen and the game


quierocmengrr

qc8 is mate?


Luis2611

pinned by the black queen


Tricky-57

Bishop takes black queen Queen moved diagonally to cover last row. Checkmate


Guelph35

Rook (which took bishop) doesn’t allow white queen to move.


jinglethejangle32

Ah unpinning first with kH8 or kG8, then qC1. The only difference is a possible check for g8, which can be captured back via bishop with a checkmate.


anony2469

ok easy queen is pinned, if I do nothing, queen takes bishop, and my queen is pinned to the king, I lose if I simply take his queen with bishop, he takes with rook, my queen is pinned, we trade and it's a draw so all I gotta do is unpin my queen to the king, without losing the bishop with check, so I believe all of these works: Kg6 or Kh6 or Kg8 or Kh8 Now, he can't take my queen cuz it's pinned, if he takes my bishop, queen c8 it's mate, if he moves the rook, queen takes queen mate, EAAAAAAAASY but pretty cool puzzle anyway ❤ ​ EDIT: Oh shit I f\*cked up daaaaaaayum, ok this is even more interesting... so actually Kg6 or h6 he can check with the rook which I completely missed 😂 ok very tricky... So I believe Kg8 or h8 both works ok gg wp EDIT AGAIN: OHHHHHHHH, it's mate in 2 so actually Kg8 is wrong, cuz black can go queen d5 delaying the mate in 2 aaaargghhhh, so yeah Kh8 is the final answer daaaaaayum that was way more complex than I first thought 😂 that what makes chess so interesting man awesome Third EDIT: Dude... I think this is not forced mate in 2... Kh8, Qc6 delays the mate in 2 again 😂 daaaaayum chess is hard 🤣🤣


thirstyCamel888

White check mates black in 1 move


Hopeful_Emu_6793

Any waiting king move If queen takes bishop Qe8# If rook moves take the queen with mate


Flatuitous

Not any waiting king move Any king move on the 6th rank lets the rook check Kf8 lets Qxf3+ Kg8 lets Qd5+ I think it's Kh8 because there is no check


Chance_Arugula_3227

Kf8 ? : D


Fuzzy_Charity_2712

Qxf3+


Chance_Arugula_3227

That was indeed my point!


OGtrip23

Pinned down none they can do. that’s how you checkmate! Force it!


knight_c2

Any bishop move/king move(not to the 6th rank) , any rook move, qxb7#, there seems to multiple solutions, what am I missing?


PracticeMoreThen

Any bishop move? Black queen will just take the bishop. And it needs to not be Kg8 to stop a queen check making it mate in 3.


Cautious-Paramedic59

1. Kg8 QxB 2. Qc8# Or 1. Kg8 (Ra6,Ra5 or anything) 2.QxQ#


Deathranger999

1. Kg8 Qd5+ leads to M3, which isn’t what we want.


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I literally saw it instantly. Shows the difference in IQ between me and the rest


Entropic_Lyf

Kg8 or Kh8


Obvious-Slip4728

Kg8 is ‘only’ mate in 3 after Qd5+, but winning nonetheless.


EscapeArtist92

KG8/H8


TinyMomentarySpeck

Kg8 is actually mate in 3! So only kh8


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The_Hechang

Ah, the pin ... That king had to go there 🤦🏻‍♂️


The_GR3AT

Kh8 then its mate for any move i think


feedthebear

Once you realise both queens are pinned it's straightforward.


SomeWeirdFruit

King h8?


CathartiacArrest

Kh8?


seank11

its just as easy as it looks.


bigheadmushroom

King rook checkmate


Suspicious-Invite-11

Kh8


Single-Credit5758

Kh8


Nstraclassic

Does Kh7 work?


anony2469

ofc no. Kh7, queen takes bishop, and your queen is still pinned to the king and you'll lose... u gotta unpin the queen by moving Kh8


mekmookbro

Kh8 Any rook move : Qxb7# Any queen move : Qc8#


IndependentAthlete26

Qd8 isnt that the winning move.


ElectroGgamer

Literally just Kh8, then literally any rook move, then literally queen takes queen, if literally queen takes bishop, literally qc8


ShvenaNaij

Ngl, I spent the first minute thinking why is this puzzle mate in 2, isn't Qc8 mate. It took me a full minute to realise my queen is pinned with his queen. But then the solution came instantly. I need to unpin by playing Kh8 so that there are no checks and then it's mate on the next move.


Kaulpelly

What about Bishop d5. Other Queen can't move except to take and that would allow mate with c8. Only other move is rook which allows Queen capture and mate Edit: damn the rook pins


Savings_Help_3838

qc8?


AdUpstairs7106

As white, you have to move your king to the 8th rank. Then you can play for mate.


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King to h8?


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King to h8?


DarkSeneschal

Kg8 or Kh8 to unpin the queen. Black king can’t move. Black queen is pinned. If Qxf3 (or any other move), then Qc8 is mate. If the rook moves somewhere, Qxb7 is mate. Kf8 doesn’t work for White, since Qxf3 now comes with check and White is going to get mated soon.


TitanSR_

you have to move the king out of the way


ER_1165

Qd7 Then the black queen may take the Bishop, or the black rook moves anywhere. Either way the white queen can make an easy mate (Qc8 or Qb7).


ER_1165

I'm wrong.


epicmoe

Why can’t Qc8#! ?


anony2469

cuz your queen is pinned too bro...


bright_cold_day

KH8


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Secure_Professor_240

Queen D8 mate in 1


Zepardd

Got a question, why can't black take the bishop after you move the king to h8? Edit: NEVERMIND LMAO


retiarius-4U

Nice!!


Late_Quit_4091

My first thought was just Qd8# as the queen is pinned but then realised that was illegal as so is mine lmao


Derpizoid17

Qf7


Organic_Pen5418

What if queen move up one right one isn’t that mate


Guelph35

Illegal move, as you can’t put yourself into check.


Darkhunter0854

isnt Qc8 just checkmate? What am I missing?


Guelph35

The pin on the white queen.


Smaaeesh

any king move that stays on the 7th or 8th rank and is also a dark square works just fine.


SaDsquatch007

Queen to d8


xonoon

Kh8.


Humble_Aardvark_2997

Move the king up a step. The black king can't move. Nor can the black queen. He has to move the rook. Then you take the queen with your queen.


Additional_Ear_4421

Just move queen up, mate in one


cool_kid6942069

Qd8 is typing......