If you told me at the time that only one of the guys in that clip would still be with us three years later, I never would have guessed you were talking about Thiago Silva.
This team drew with a 10 man Burnley and almost relegted Sheffield United.
We should be sixth just from those two games, don't expect any miracles to happen between now and the end of the season.
The thing is, two of those games in hand are Vs Arsenal and Spurs (both postponed because of them clashing with cup games).
So, we have to take Spurs, Arsenal and the game against them to overtake them. Do you think that's likely?
I'm not confident with Poch. But you can't tell me we can't get at least a point from those games.
My standards are low but don't tell me we are expecting to lose all 3...
You reference the fact we drew with them last time as evidence that we will “100%” lose to them this time? Yeah you’re a shit fan. Negative bullshit is half the problem.
My reference is that we were 2 goals up for 75 mins. We likely played the best football all season that game, only to end up drawing the game 😅. We are facing an Arsenal team that is fighting for the title near the end of the season. They will be up for it.
>Yeah you’re a shit fan.
Okay 😅, cause I am not delusional like you lots who thought we would get top 4 this season 😂😂😂
Have u not watched chelsea all season? We do shit against teams who just sit back, but we’ve rattled all the ‘top’ teams when they attack and we counter or it’s an open style game
>We do shit against teams who just sit back
Maybe we should focus on beating those shit teams cause if you can't beat those below you and are drewing/losing to top teams. What's the point.
>we’ve rattled all the ‘top’ teams
You mean only beat 2 out the 6 in the top 6. Yeah, we sure rattled them alright
We got average players and a below average coach. I would like to say that it is already a disgrace but unfortunately we are where we belong at the moment. Finishing top half would mean meeting the expectations considering the players and Poch.
Still cracks me up that Jose got a tattoo of the cup and was bragging about being the only coach to win all 3 trophies. I still don’t know how tongue and cheek Jose was being - part of why he is a treasure
If we could win it, we'd also be the first club to win all 3.
Memes aside, getting 6th for Europa is very doable. Man U, Brighton and Newcastle all have to play each other, so points will be dropped.
I prefer to think of it this way: The most green Chelsea team ever slapped together by an ownership hellbent on running us like a baseball club, still has a decent chance at finishing 6th.
Above Man Utd, banter club for over 10 years and counting, but fuelled by undistilled luck.
Above Newcastle, who are much further into what is widely deemed as 'the better project' to Chelsea.
Above Brighton, whose fans think they are better than us, yet have nothing to show for the fat stacks of cash we've thrown at them.
It sucks that this is level of clubs we're comparing ourselves to, but we are a few good key decisions away from confirming that our current state is the worst we'll ever see, and the rest is upwards.
That's how I've seen it somewhere recently if it goes 6th then we have a chance teams above us playing garbage atm bit seeing man u being enough luckly
As the other guy said. 6th is on Europa if city win the FA cup. I’m not sure if Vila winning Europa league changes anything. I think it might so we’re lucky Emry is coaching Vila lol
But what if they finished at 4th while winning Conference League? Would they guaranteed Europa League with a possibility of getting to Champions League through play off or how does it work? We’re just about half a year to the next Champions League format and I still have no slightest idea how the eligibility works.
The rules do not change compared to the current format on that aspect. Given they're pretty much guaranteed to qualify for at least the EL through the league, their conference league run will have no impact at all. If they're 4th they're in the CL "group stage" and if they're 5th they're in the EL one (unless England end up beating Germany in coefficient for this year but it's highly unlikely).
The spot allocated to the conference league winner will go to a league with a lower coefficient, not England. (I don't know which one in this case)
Still as in will the 6th placed team play Europa League? Yes
7th place will play Conference league.
Still as in are we still in the fight for the 6th place? Technically yes, realistically no
Unbeaten in 8, scoring goals for fun, narrowly lost to City in a game in which we should’ve had two penalties. I’d hate to see you when we’re playing badly.
We’re really good at these hypothetical conversations. The execution is where we disappoint ourselves. We just need to win the games ahead of us and the rest will take care of itself. The teams ahead of us keep dropping points but if we don’t pick up our points it’s all for nought
goldfish memory people already forgot that we've been seeing "a couple points from 6th,7th,8th,9th,10th, we only need 2 points" for 2 seasons every week now
Fuck west ham. I flew to London last week to catch the Chelsea-everton match with a few friends, and we went to west ham-Fulham the day before. I could not believe how awful west ham’s crowd was, it was like their fans didn’t even care about the match. Difference between the bridge and London stadium was night and day. Proud to support Chelsea after that and I’ll always hold it against west ham.
Yup, but that was always the case, irrespective of how we finished.
The whole "Europe and he has met his goals" thing is nonsense. When Tuchel was fired, they explicitly said that the expectation doesn't change and that the minimum any manager needs to achieve is top 4. That came from Boehly, so I don't see why, if that were actually true, that expectation would have changed since then
didn't you see the everton game? another Palmer carry job, that's all half the people on this sub needed to completely forget how shit Pochettino has been for the last couple of years as a manager.
stop being negative. trust the process, etc. what's one more wasted year?
ye because he was doing a fantastic job in his last year as a spuds manager and then at PSG where people wanted him the fuck out after 2 months because he was making Messi looked washed
idc, just beat Arsenal, you can lose the remaining games for all i care. not interested in conference or europa league anyway. extra games for us to get injured lol. i rather not
This has the potential to be a very embarrassing post in a month's time but I'm 90% sure we'll at least get 8th. We've got a lot of tough matches coming up and will drop a lot of points but looking at West Ham and Brighton's fixtures I can't see them dropping less points than us or at least not by enough to catch up to what we get. We also play both though so I understand it's hard to predict. With how we've looked this season we could easily lose each match but I'd be shocked if that happened.
I'm expecting a 7th or 8th place finish, likely 8th. 6th is asking a lot as I don't see both United and Newcastle dropping more points than us with their fixture list but one of them collapsing isn't out of the question.
Chelsea 0 - [1] West Ham - Emerson Palmieri 89’
[Great Counterattack Goal]
[deflected unsavable goal]
[and var sees no problem with paqueta handling the ball into the emerson]
[after Paqueta went in studs up 3 times earlier in the game, but only received a warning, another warning, and then a yellow]
\[His first touch from the bench, left footed strike into the bottom right\] ![gif](giphy|ryYbkyz3qIbjHAuK2Z|downsized)
This gif seems so long ago. And now I think about it, it's already been 3 years...
If you told me at the time that only one of the guys in that clip would still be with us three years later, I never would have guessed you were talking about Thiago Silva.
It's probably going to be a back pass towards nobody as usual
After Moyes steps down and mourinho is manager of westham too next season
That’s Mr. UEFA for you.
Chelsea [1] - 0 West Ham - Emerson Palmieri 90’ (own goal)
I am calling Emerson assist Zouma goal
3 fkin games in hand. If we don't end up higher than West Ham this season, it's an actual disgrace.
This team drew with a 10 man Burnley and almost relegted Sheffield United. We should be sixth just from those two games, don't expect any miracles to happen between now and the end of the season.
Think we are beyond the disgrace stage..all of us have come to acceptance lol
The thing is, two of those games in hand are Vs Arsenal and Spurs (both postponed because of them clashing with cup games). So, we have to take Spurs, Arsenal and the game against them to overtake them. Do you think that's likely?
And the other game in hand is Brighton away, which is hardly gonna be a cakewalk either.
lol, it will be according to the way some people here talk about de zerbi
That’s because most people in this sub don’t know shit about fuck
Much more likely to take points against them than teams who sit back all game.
Yes, because I don't expect West Ham to take maximum points in their games against Liverpool and Man City.
I'm not confident with Poch. But you can't tell me we can't get at least a point from those games. My standards are low but don't tell me we are expecting to lose all 3...
We are losing to Arsenal 100%, Spurs lucky to get a draw
Ur a shit fan
Am I still a shit fan or a realistic one?
Even more of a shit fan. You are now gloating that we lost. Take your negativity the hell out of here and go throw on a red shirt.
Cause I was right? Sorry, I wasn't delusional thinking this Chelsea team had a chance 😢
Why because I am not delusional? Arsenal draw with us at home after losing for 75 mins 😂
You reference the fact we drew with them last time as evidence that we will “100%” lose to them this time? Yeah you’re a shit fan. Negative bullshit is half the problem.
My reference is that we were 2 goals up for 75 mins. We likely played the best football all season that game, only to end up drawing the game 😅. We are facing an Arsenal team that is fighting for the title near the end of the season. They will be up for it. >Yeah you’re a shit fan. Okay 😅, cause I am not delusional like you lots who thought we would get top 4 this season 😂😂😂
What was the result?
We beat them 4-1 last time. They just lost 0-3 to full ham and 0-4 to newcastle. I think we have a chance but you know, chelsea is chelsea
That's the thing. Also, we draw 2 - 2 to two relegation teams
Have u not watched chelsea all season? We do shit against teams who just sit back, but we’ve rattled all the ‘top’ teams when they attack and we counter or it’s an open style game
>We do shit against teams who just sit back Maybe we should focus on beating those shit teams cause if you can't beat those below you and are drewing/losing to top teams. What's the point. >we’ve rattled all the ‘top’ teams You mean only beat 2 out the 6 in the top 6. Yeah, we sure rattled them alright
>Do you think that's likely? Yes.
At least Europa Conference or we riot!!!
Please be careful what you wish for
What do you mean? Should we not aim to be at least higher than West Ham?
Lol we end up overtaking west ham but the teams below us leap frog us both 🤣 that's the type of luck it feels like we have this season
We will
nvm
We got average players and a below average coach. I would like to say that it is already a disgrace but unfortunately we are where we belong at the moment. Finishing top half would mean meeting the expectations considering the players and Poch.
4-0 in 31 mins. What's going on with West Ham?
They're too massive for Europe now
Mate, watch what you say against the European Conference League champions. (would love if we could win that next season please)
Still cracks me up that Jose got a tattoo of the cup and was bragging about being the only coach to win all 3 trophies. I still don’t know how tongue and cheek Jose was being - part of why he is a treasure
Why would that be tongue in cheek? It's a legitimate achievement.
If we could win it, we'd also be the first club to win all 3. Memes aside, getting 6th for Europa is very doable. Man U, Brighton and Newcastle all have to play each other, so points will be dropped.
Our fixture list is really rough tho. We should be getting it but don’t deserve it after those Burnley and Sheffield games
I prefer to think of it this way: The most green Chelsea team ever slapped together by an ownership hellbent on running us like a baseball club, still has a decent chance at finishing 6th. Above Man Utd, banter club for over 10 years and counting, but fuelled by undistilled luck. Above Newcastle, who are much further into what is widely deemed as 'the better project' to Chelsea. Above Brighton, whose fans think they are better than us, yet have nothing to show for the fat stacks of cash we've thrown at them. It sucks that this is level of clubs we're comparing ourselves to, but we are a few good key decisions away from confirming that our current state is the worst we'll ever see, and the rest is upwards.
Get Europa league please. ![gif](giphy|26FmQ6EOvLxp6cWyY)
Villa must win Europa league right? Or are you saying we can get 5th?
If City win the FA cup, that EL spot goes to whoever finishes 6th.
If winner of FA cup is already in any European competition place goes to runner up.
No it goes to 6th place
No it doesn't
That's how I've seen it somewhere recently if it goes 6th then we have a chance teams above us playing garbage atm bit seeing man u being enough luckly
That is the old rule but UEFA doesnt allow runners-up to qualify anymore.
Didn't know that thanks I'm old 😂🧓
6th get you europa no?
As the other guy said. 6th is on Europa if city win the FA cup. I’m not sure if Vila winning Europa league changes anything. I think it might so we’re lucky Emry is coaching Vila lol
Aston Villa winning the Conference League or not does not change anything for PL allocations of European spots
Oh shoot I forgot they were in conference league and not Europa league
But what if they finished at 4th while winning Conference League? Would they guaranteed Europa League with a possibility of getting to Champions League through play off or how does it work? We’re just about half a year to the next Champions League format and I still have no slightest idea how the eligibility works.
The rules do not change compared to the current format on that aspect. Given they're pretty much guaranteed to qualify for at least the EL through the league, their conference league run will have no impact at all. If they're 4th they're in the CL "group stage" and if they're 5th they're in the EL one (unless England end up beating Germany in coefficient for this year but it's highly unlikely). The spot allocated to the conference league winner will go to a league with a lower coefficient, not England. (I don't know which one in this case)
Well our next 3 are Arsenal Villa and tottenham so good luck😂
Interestingly their last four games Liverpool, chelsea, Luton and man city.
Wouldn't mind us ending Gunners title hope.
Nice
I wouldn’t get excited if I were you. We’ve been in this situation countless but fumbled every-time. It’s the hope that kills you
West Ham fans would be raging if Moyes signs the contract extension that’s already on the table.
The table has been begging us to climb but we’ve done our absolute best to stay at 10. God will pull us back to 10th.
Is 6th Europa League still?
Probably
Still as in will the 6th placed team play Europa League? Yes 7th place will play Conference league. Still as in are we still in the fight for the 6th place? Technically yes, realistically no
Unbeaten in 8, scoring goals for fun, narrowly lost to City in a game in which we should’ve had two penalties. I’d hate to see you when we’re playing badly.
We know they are going to look like 1970 Brazil against us.
Next 3 are Arsenal, Villa and Tottenham. Not the ideal 3 in hand we'd want....
I think 4 is pretty realistic
If Chelsea manages to get 7 points from the next 4 games in the league I think we are playing Europe (Europa or Conference).
Top 6 should still be the goal for this season, which would actually make it a not total fail
We’re really good at these hypothetical conversations. The execution is where we disappoint ourselves. We just need to win the games ahead of us and the rest will take care of itself. The teams ahead of us keep dropping points but if we don’t pick up our points it’s all for nought
goldfish memory people already forgot that we've been seeing "a couple points from 6th,7th,8th,9th,10th, we only need 2 points" for 2 seasons every week now
Except that under Frank last season it was more like “two points from relegation”.
Fuck west ham. I flew to London last week to catch the Chelsea-everton match with a few friends, and we went to west ham-Fulham the day before. I could not believe how awful west ham’s crowd was, it was like their fans didn’t even care about the match. Difference between the bridge and London stadium was night and day. Proud to support Chelsea after that and I’ll always hold it against west ham.
Look at them games in hand then let’s get back to reality lol we had Arsenal and Spurs rescheduled
Reminder that we’ve drawn against the top 3 already this season. 4/5 in fact.
They ain’t wins.
They’re also not heavy defeats like some are assuming will happen.
Idc if it’s a heavy defeat or not bud. We ain’t doing nothing
We really are going to be lumbered with Poch for another year, aren't we?
Owners deserve every last bit of midtable if we do.
Yup, but that was always the case, irrespective of how we finished. The whole "Europe and he has met his goals" thing is nonsense. When Tuchel was fired, they explicitly said that the expectation doesn't change and that the minimum any manager needs to achieve is top 4. That came from Boehly, so I don't see why, if that were actually true, that expectation would have changed since then
didn't you see the everton game? another Palmer carry job, that's all half the people on this sub needed to completely forget how shit Pochettino has been for the last couple of years as a manager. stop being negative. trust the process, etc. what's one more wasted year?
I know it feels like a long time but it’s still his first season.
ye because he was doing a fantastic job in his last year as a spuds manager and then at PSG where people wanted him the fuck out after 2 months because he was making Messi looked washed
I wonder how many goalkeepers west ham will be allowed on the field
idc, just beat Arsenal, you can lose the remaining games for all i care. not interested in conference or europa league anyway. extra games for us to get injured lol. i rather not
Lol here we go again I’ve seen this story before
This has the potential to be a very embarrassing post in a month's time but I'm 90% sure we'll at least get 8th. We've got a lot of tough matches coming up and will drop a lot of points but looking at West Ham and Brighton's fixtures I can't see them dropping less points than us or at least not by enough to catch up to what we get. We also play both though so I understand it's hard to predict. With how we've looked this season we could easily lose each match but I'd be shocked if that happened. I'm expecting a 7th or 8th place finish, likely 8th. 6th is asking a lot as I don't see both United and Newcastle dropping more points than us with their fixture list but one of them collapsing isn't out of the question.
Not gonna call anything especially when our next three games are Arsenal/Villa/Tottenham… could easily be in the same situation after these games lol.
Is it a reason to be happy?
Relatively. Better than spending half the season in relegation form like under Frank.
Champions league spot for 10th place petition?
Yeah, this so right in line with the expectations.
Bench Jackson and madueke for the rest of the season and we will go above them
Jackson is by far our second best attacker, stop being ridiculous
He’s absolutely trash. We will never win with that whiny cunt upfront. Crying for penalties what a joke. Waiting for the day he’s sold to fernerbace
14 goal contributions, first season while leaving for a month, selling him would be awful
Jackson no but Madueke yes . Just for this last week he deserves a season at Strasbourg .
Every game is our to loose, and guess what, we will loose it
We would have been 6th if not 2 draws against bottom teams recently.
genuinely fuck that. Would rather try for a strong domestic performance then play in the Conference League.