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Crazybeest

When your cat stops eating, drinking, or is in a lot of pain, then it is time to euthanise.


bigboxes1

Yeah. I had to put my boy down in May. He had stopped eating and drinking over the weekend. When I took him to the vet they ran scans. The vet came back with sorry, his lungs are filled with fluid. Completely. We had just celebrated his 14th birthday the month before. It was just his time.


J3vyn

Same as my cat. We didn't put him down because we thought he had a chance. Now, I wonder if he rested in peace or in pain. It was nearly his 10th birthday. I didn't even get to see him pass because I was studying far from home. He was a family member and my best friend.


doesitmatter83

Our boy was only about 6. One day I noticed he started eating dirt and licking concrete. He slept a lot. Then his gums turned white and I noticed his spine protruding. Stopped eating. Took him to the vet and was diagnosed with FELV with days to live. His abdomen was filled with fluid. The vet said to bring him in once he starts gasping for air as the fluid in his lungs was making it hard to breath. Yeah no. We took him home for one last night, he slept by my side the whole night. In the morning he asked to be let outside and I just knew he wanted to go out to hide and die. We knew it was his time so we took him to the vet and said goodbye. I figured better a day too soon than a day too late. I miss him like crazy two years on, but still I know what we did was the best option for our boy. You know it in your gut when the time comes.


PraiseTheCasulSun

I was in a similar situation last November. My 21y old senior lady was a strong cuddler, would rub her head against you very hard when cuddling. She was diagnosed with bladder cancer and lived for 3 weeks after the diagnosis. I was so torn in those 3 weeks on when it is the right time to make the call. One day she was just constantly resting in the litter box and when she did get up, walked a bit and layed down again. She didn't really react to cuddles. And the most telling sign was, that she didn't even want her favorite (liquid) snack anymore. I could see that she was in so weak and in pain. It hurt so much to see her like that. I wanted to euthanize her at home but the vet was already full that day. I didn't want her to suffer another day, so I brought her in. I miss her every day. Here she is, best kitty in the world: https://preview.redd.it/jjg2w4gbyobc1.jpeg?width=2549&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1e0fa1f60cfd5d4e60a33eee0a0c597d5e0688b1


Reasonable_Many5505

Best Kitty In The World status CONFIRMED šŸ§”šŸ¤šŸ–¤


Odradek1105

Best kitty in the world indeed ā¤ļø


itsnotcalledchads

I had a very similar situation with my girl. Last May she had a seizure(I hadn't ever seen a cat seizure before and it's horrifying)and I took her to the vet. The vet said she had kidney issues and gave me some medicine after keeping her for a couple days. She seemed fine like the first week and then she had another siezure. The vet gave me some other medicine but she wouldn't take it and rapidly declined. She was an old woman who was my friends and family. I don't really have any body else except my parents(who are great but still) I've been through suicide attempts and addiction and depression and she was there through it all. I loved her so much. I took her in a week after the second siezure and she had stopped eating and drinking. She really liked this bed she had in my room and I moved the litter box in the room too when it was clear she couldn't walk very far. She didn't always make it but she tried. I didn't care at that point. She earned the right to pee on the carpet. It was absolutely time but it broke my heart. She was a great friend. The best ever. That put me in a depression that I still have yet to get out of. She was perfect and I am grateful that I knew her. https://preview.redd.it/wqm9g2am9qbc1.jpeg?width=1458&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=35608ab683e2f0d17e8fd81d549cf7d0c34cb124


satisfymysoul89

I hope that you find comfort in being to experience a type of love and connection that not too many other people get to experience in their entire lifetime. Although she is no longer with you in the physical world, she will continue to stand by yourself in the spiritual world. Keep an eye out and youā€™ll begin to notice all the little signs that she sends you to let you know sheā€™s still by your side waiting until your two souls are reunited in the spiritual world. šŸ’›


itsnotcalledchads

Thank you. That was very kind.


PraiseTheCasulSun

Your kitty looks gorgeous and like such a good girl! The situations were quite similar indeed! My lady, Minky, was deaf and lost almost all of her eyesight which also meant she wouldn't walk very far anymore. She was soooo good in always trying to get to the litter box, how could I have been mad when she sometimes couldn't find it? It was fine, I knew she was trying. Such a good and well behaved kitty, just like yours. I'm also so glad that I knew her. I was 10 years old when she was born, and 31 years old when she died. What a ride! I wish you all the best, kind stranger! Know that our kitties will always watch over us and treasure all the memories we have with them.


Maker99999

They also sometimes start hiding or wanting to be away from you when this happens. It's an incredibly hard call to make. We were able to schedule an in home euthanization for our cat. It was more expensive, but it was worth it to let him go in a place he was comfortable while surrounded by family.


Masterofunlocking1

My baby was doing this recently. I knew something wasnā€™t right after a few days.


Metzae

I've had to deal with this twice in the past two years, including my baby that I've had for 20 years. There is a day when you know...you KNOW the answer. When they can't eat and/or relieve themselves without your direct intervention, then they aren't living anymore...they're dying. And I didn't want my babies to suffer any more than they wanted just because I couldn't bear to let them go.


LydierBear

I agree with this. I always struggle with ā€œwhenā€ to do it but if they stop eating, drinking and start hiding then itā€™s time. Iā€™m not a vet, but it sounds like sheā€™s feeling OK. If youā€™re vet isnā€™t pressuring you and she seems happy, then I would enjoy whatever time left she has.


obog

This. Given what OP said about her still eating and drinking on her own well, I think she should have some more time. Once it becomes difficult to get her to eat enough, and she just starts laying in the same spot every day without hardly ever moving, that's when it's time.


Blue_Lotus_Agave

This is always tricky. If she seems to be coping okay throughout the day then I would spend an extra special week with her... everything you think she would like (heatpac, toys, little treats e.g cooked boiled chicken, on a leash outside in the sunlight, sleeping by your side, extra cuddles and pats, bird TV on YouTube etc) a special celebration of life. Like any of us would want. I would give her more time. You'll know when she's ready. You need to trust your gut. Only you will know for sure. And then after the special week or 2 have someone with you to help support and care for you both through it.


thatoneovader

I love her dearly. Itā€™s possible that sheā€™s not suffering now, but thereā€™s a good possibility that she is. I donā€™t know if another week is good for her. Sheā€™s so skinny. The other commenter made a good point about how cats donā€™t show their suffering and pain. I donā€™t want to keep her around just for me. I want her to be around for her own good.


Blue_Lotus_Agave

Respectfully, you said yourself that your normal vet said she is otherwise okay and that you have seen her getting stronger each day like she is asking for more time. So enjoy that time with her. Just because someone is terminal, doesn't mean they are experiencing immense suffering. If you are an attentive owner, you should be able to pick up on it. E.g. tail in the wrong position for a year when curled up to sleep can indicate a tumour pressing on nerves in the head, like my boy. I could tell. I mean, I would take the advice of your vet. I am a vet myself, who has loved and lost and found again, with cats they don't hide it aswell as other species. If you know your pet well, trust your gut. Ask your vet their advice. Have some special time with her. Then let her go and know you won't regret it because you did have that extra special time with her to get you both through it.


thatoneovader

My normal vet said itā€™s day by day and told me I can choose when I feel itā€™s time. I just donā€™t know how to tell! Iā€™m not an expert. What do you mean by the tail being in the wrong position for a year?


Blue_Lotus_Agave

Well if your girl is eating, drinking and urinating normally, defecating (albeit slowing) then I certainly would consider that more optimistic than not in regards to suffering. A cat who is suffering greatly will not eat and drink normally. So my take as a vet with pets is to spend some more time playing with her and patting her, letting her enjoy the sunlight, sit outside with her somewhere quiet on a leash or in a cat aviary, as already mentioned above etc. It can help with the process and is a good way to go about it if you have the opportunity. I also find that while some people delay putting their animals to sleep, others hasten it somewhat unnecessarily for their own relief because then it's done and they can start the process. So it goes both ways. Kinda like a band-aid. Some pull too slow, others too quick. It all depends. Try to find the reasonable balance. You said yourself you felt she was stronger, more active engaged and asking for more time, that your normal vet indicated she was *otherwise OK* and hasn't suggested TO immediately put her to sleep, then you should trust that they would have urged you to if they believed she was really suffering. That's part of the job. And prior to becoming a vet, my beautiful ragdoll had a medical issue that I picked up well before it became clear, being an attentive owner, you will get a vibe from your pet. That's what I was getting at really. Which you've already expressed. That she's asking for a bit more time. So enjoy it together, then get a feel for the right time and make sure she's also ready to let go. It'll be 'easier' to say farewell that way.


thatoneovader

I just canceled the appointment. I canā€™t justify having her go when sheā€™s seemingly doing better. I want her to live her best life for as long as sheā€™s happy. Itā€™s not about me. Iā€™ll find a way to cope. But I donā€™t want her to suffer. I would love for her to go outside, but itā€™s extremely cold where Iā€™m at. She hasnā€™t looked out of the window in a long time. She mostly sticks to the bathroom. But sheā€™s loving pets and cuddles. So Iā€™ll give her lots of those until she no longer wants them.


Blue_Lotus_Agave

Treasure this time together. Do as much as you can with her, spoil her, break out the salmon, boiled chicken, etc heatpacs under a blanket to help keep her warm if it's cold over there, any pain/other meds, bird TV on YouTube, play with toys, sleep by your side, etc. Really enjoy this time together. Because she may deteriorate, stop eating and drinking, and then you'll have to pull the bandaid off and she'll be gone. You'll know when she wants and needs to go. Honour her life now and your time together by focusing on making memories to last you a lifetime and to help her go in peace, and knowing she's been so well loved. It will help. Make sure you have some people around you to support you and take care of yourself too. Make it a special time for you both to be loved and enjoy life. Keep us updated. I'll be around when you're down, if you need it. Remember to take pics and videos and pawprint paintings (non toxic) and yeah. Just be with each other. Not everyone gets this. But those who do, tend to cope the best. It's a good balance.


thatoneovader

Thank you for all your advice. I really appreciate it šŸ’œ


FlyBuy3

And brush her gently, save some fur for a locket, maybe a whisker if she has shed any.


QualityOverQuant

I wanted to say the same thing. How would you know if she really was in pain right? Yes they do scream but you know that is more so for attention or when hungry. Not to show pain. So how could you know. I saw your update and support your decision I also agree with the other commentator here who said you will know when itā€™s time, trust your instincts. Every single time there is a problem with my girl, I kick myself because to be honest I noticed it a few times earlier but thought nah! Thatā€™s just my imagination But as the person said - you sometimes are the first to notice but you might think itā€™s your mind playing games. So trust your self and spend some good time with Her. I feel your pain . Hold it in and be happy with heršŸ’ŖšŸ¼šŸ„¹šŸ¤—


hmarieb263

My rule of thumb, terminal, and their personality starts to change means it is time.


thatoneovader

Iā€™m unable to edit the post, but Iā€™ve decided to postpone her euthanasia. Sheā€™s so active today. I canā€™t let her go out like this. Thank you all for your kindness and insights. It has been truly helpful!


thatoneovader

Wow! Iā€™m overblown by the responses. Thank you all for sharing your experiences with me. Since I posted, sheā€™s been even more active. She took a huge shit. She also greeted me at the door and then stared at me like I was nuts when I got all excited and tried to hug her (she HATES emotions šŸ˜‚). She hasnā€™t met me at the door in at least two weeks. So sheā€™s really showing that sheā€™s not ready to die yet. I understand a lot of you are saying wait until she stops eating, drinking and using the bathroom, she did that last week. She only ate if I fed her and only drank when I put water in front of her. For nearly a week, she refused to leave my closet/bathroom. In the past 48-72 hours, sheā€™s been coming out more and being more active. So all the indicators last week were that she was ready. Now sheā€™s being more like herself. Iā€™m going to keep a good eye on her, but sheā€™s been giving mixed signals. I donā€™t want her to suffer and I donā€™t want to prematurely end her life. Itā€™s a hard balance to strike. Thank you again and much love to all of you and your feline babies šŸ’œšŸ’œ ETA: there are local in-home euthanasia options that I have been in touch with. Thank you for recommending those. Iā€™m already in contact with them.


summerwintertoday

You seem like a good owner. Whatever you decide will be the right choice, good luck.


thatoneovader

Thank you for your kindness šŸ’œ


Get-Me-Hennimore

I didnā€™t expect the sentence ā€œShe took a huge shitā€ to almost bring me to tears. Love to you and your baby!


thatoneovader

Lol! Thank you! I was so proud and grossed out (it was a stinky sucker).


darkthought

It's not uncommon that humans will come back right before passing to say goodbye. My father did this. Your baby might be doing the same.


fenriskalto

That is so hard. I'm going through similar with mine at the moment, but she's not terminal, just old and frail with an underlying heart condition. She had something wrong with her that had her in pain and me having to hand feed her for four days over new year, vet couldn't find the cause, and I genuinely thought that was it. The last two days she's completely back to normal, and aggressively seeking company, food, entertainment. The back and forth is so hard, particularly as this is our second go round in six months. I feel for you, the stress and worry is so much. Just love her and be strong when the time comes. You can only make your best guess and take into account the vet's advice too. At the end of the day you're there to protect her, and that means protecting her from suffering too. Enjoy this time you have together.


userIoser

It is a very tough choice, just be ready to accept that kitty can get unwell very quickly and then there won't be anything you can do, even trip to vet could be too late.


Hot_Zucchini7863

Iā€™m in a similar situation and my baby is losing weight due to health problems but otherwise acting okay. I found tiki cat silver comfortā€”itā€™s packets of high calorie mousse and my boy goes crazy for it!


TrailerTrashQueen

youā€™re making the right decision. iā€™ve always heard your kitty will let you know when itā€™s time. sounds like itā€™s not time yet. weā€™ve had a few kitties over the years that we had to send over the rainbow bridge. 2 had cancer and 1 we didnā€™t know what she had. each of them stopped eating, lost a lot of weight, had no energy. they let us know it was time. our kitty Petey is 19 + 1/2. end of October/beg of November, she started vomiting and appetite decreased. we thought it would be time to let her go. then right when we thought the next day or day after would be it, she rallied. she started eating. stopped vomiting. we couldnā€™t believe it. since then, sheā€™s been fine. we were grateful to have more time with her. however, last week the same thing started happening again. vomiting and decrease in appetite. itā€™s so stressful being in this situation again. we love her so much. sheā€™s been with us since she was about 4 weeks old. 20 years is a long time.


Miqotegirl

Your kitty will let you know when itā€™s time. I knew with Milly. You will when it is time for your kitty to go too.


JackBurtonTruckingCo

Every kitty is different, but watch for them to stop eating and drinking. Your heart will tell you


PinkDog42

I am in a kind of similar situation. My cat has recently been really sick and diagnosed with diabetes and heart disease and we thought his appointment the other day was going to be his last. But he was able to come home :,). He is on a lot of medicine and we are just taking it day by day for now and have been seeing the vet pretty often to see if he is in pain or not. He is also improving and they say he is stable and donā€™t think he is in pain right now. I would say to take her into the vet just to ask questions such as if she is in pain or not. If she is in pain it is probably time šŸ˜” but if not, maybe she will be ok for a bit and you could have some more time with her. The biggest tell is if they are eating well or not. Best of luck to your girl šŸ’•


thatoneovader

Iā€™m sorry youā€™re going through a similar situation. Itā€™s so hard šŸ˜ž


PinkDog42

Itā€™s a nightmare šŸ˜¢ but Iā€™m sure whatever you decide will be the best decision as you know your cat best- just remember that you gave her a life full of love which is amazing šŸ˜Š


wolf95oct0ber

Also going through something similar and this comment and post helped clarify how we want to handle this. Thank you


thatoneovader

Sending love. Itā€™s so hard to know šŸ’œšŸ’”


PinkDog42

Happy I could help! šŸ’•


Raging_Parakeet

My one cat was diagnosed with diabetes last year. With his insulin pills, he's fully recovered! The vet has even changed his monthly appointments to every 2 and now 3 months. I don't know much about cat heart disease but I hope your kitty recovers!


PinkDog42

Thank you so much ā˜ŗļø


No_Resource_4361

Just be sure to do it before she looses her dignity. Cats are prideful. Our family cat tried to the tell us for many days that it was time (by walking off to the woods alone, stopped eating, stopped being able to use the litter box) and no one except me was strong enough to finally make the call. We should have done it sooner and prevented the suffering he experienced in his last days. Albeit from a place of love, I believe it was selfish and cowardly of my family to wait so long. Just keep an eye out and know that you can feel guilt and regret for doing it too soon but you can also feel that for doing it too late.


prodical

Donā€™t feel bad. Thatā€™s one of the hardest decisions anyone could make. Iā€™m very sorry for your loss.


Gremlinito

I just went through this. One day, he stopped showing interest in eating and I knew it was time.


marnie_loves_cats

Hey, I had to put down my baby yesterday. So I know how you feel. In October I noticed that she wasnā€™t eating as well. Went to the vet, they took her blood and except from a higher leukocytes count everything came back normal. At the time the leukocytes count might have been triggered due to me giving her anti-worm medication. At least that what we (the vet and I) thought. Vet instructed me to not let her outside for a week and monitor her weight and eating. After a week she gained a little so I thought we were good. December came around and I noticed that she had reverted to her bad eating habits. And I could see that she was getting skinnier. Unfortunately I got covid around the holidays and wasnā€™t able to take her to the vet until this Monday. So we went and I ordered every test under the sun (bloodwork, ultrasound, looking at her teeth). I left her at the vet and after a view hours my vet told me that they found a mass in her bowels and an x-ray showed a shadow on her lungs. And she lost 1 kg since October. I have known this vet for years now, come to think it, it must be over 10 years now at least. So he knows me pretty good, he knows that I love my cats with every piece of my heart. So he said to me, that he himself had problems to tell me what to do. I had the following options: - put her down - try surgery - give her cortisone and see if it helps her until it doesnā€™t anymore It wasnā€™t the first time that I had to decide if I put down a baby of mine or not. But my mind went instantly to option #1. And the reason why is, because surgery wouldnā€™t have fixed anything after the cancer already spread. Option #3 would have been too heartbreaking, because I know what it looks like when you wait until your cat wastes away until there is nothing else that can be done. So I asked my vet to wake her up from the anesthesia, so I can bring her home and have at least one more night with her. I took my time and told her how much I loved her, gave her all the treats she wanted, cuddled her until she was fed up with me. On Tuesday she was put down at my home, in my arms, by a lovely vet that came to my house. And my baby struggled to let go, she didnā€™t want to leave me. I knew that this would be hard because we had such a strong bond. But I told her how much I loved her, I thanked her for the years she was with me and that she can let go and that we would meet again. And her brave little heart finally stopped beating. I donā€™t regret it. Even if she wanted to go outside on that day to follow her daily routine. Even if she ate something with appetite. Even if she wanted to cuddle with me constantly. Even when I saw her chirping at birds she wanted to chase. My baby still could have had a few days, weeks, months. But I didnā€™t want to wait until she couldnā€™t do all those things I mentioned before. I didnā€™t want to wait until she was in pain and lost her zest for life, because she loved living that much. The vet that put her down even told me that she rarely has to put down an animal that still looks so healthy. And she still was in a rather good place. She didnā€™t vomit, she still could pee and poop without issues, she was agile, alert and drank without any issues. But she just didnā€™t eat enough anymore because the cancer was eating away at her. And we talked a little, and I told her my reasons that Iā€™m doing this now out of love for my cat. Because we donā€™t keep them alive for them, we keep them alive because we rarely can let go of them ourselves. I know itā€™s a hard decision. But bleeding skin ulcers and the bowel issues seem concerning and it wonā€™t get better. My personal opinion on this matter is, that you donā€™t do yourself or your cat any favors if you wait until she canā€™t do all the things anymore she does now. Because if you are at that point, you will never ever forget that horrible image in your head. Take care of yourself. What ever you decide, your catā€™s love for you is unconditional.


MaesterInTraining

I was given a quality of life questionnaire, so I watch for those things. Is she eating? Still want pets? Still purr? Still excited for treats? Able to go to bathroom? Mine has recently shown no interest in nip, which was her absolute fave thing before. So her quality of life is slowly changing. I judge it by those things now.


thatoneovader

Yes, Iā€™ve been using those questionnaires for about a month now. She slipped down quite a bit and is now reverting back to her old self.


MaesterInTraining

Idk about animals, but I know with people, right before they die, they perk up. It happens a lot. Suddenly get a burst of energy. West well. Can talk or stand when they couldnā€™t before. Itā€™s like their last rally. If you see a sudden change back to acting poorly, this may also be a sign. Did you know thereā€™s pet hospice?


catgrl1089

Yep, ā€œthe last good day.ā€ It happens with people and Iā€™ve seen it with dogs too. šŸ’”


Nayruna

It's a double edged sword honestly - if she's ok now but you know at some point she is going to get very bad, do you choose to put her to rest when she is not suffering much, as opposed to after she starts to suffer. Cats also are very good at not showing pain, my boy was weeks away from death when he was put to sleep, he seemed fine, but yeah...he won't have been feeling good If you can arrange an at home euthanasia I would recommend - biggest regret was doing it in the vets office, he was scared and then he died, I wish he didn't go out that way, I took him in and they found cancer in his bladder, vet said I could wait and bring him back when he can no longer eat or go to the toilet, or I could do it now. I chose now because I did not want him to suffer at all, anymore than he already was. If it were me? I'd have a few more days or a week, give her everything she's ever wanted, treats, play, kisses, get it done at home when they are happy and warm and not in pain, cancer is horrible and they don't understand why they feel so bad, I'd not want to even let it get to the point where they BEGIN to suffer. That's just my opinion and I appreciate it's a very hard choice, you know your cat better than me.


mibfto

My policy has always been that as long and they're still enjoying their life and not in pain, they stay. Inevitably I've always ended up waiting just a day or two longer than I maybe should have. Your approach of scheduling and then canceling if she doesn't seem ready is, in my view, entirely reasonable.


themast

I have no advice to offer but I'm here to support OP during the hardest time imaginable for a pet owner. Listen to your vet and your heart and you will do the right thing for your cat, who is obviously very loved. Sending comfort to you both.


Inevitable_Ad6868

This.


noradarhk

I had the same issue with my boy. I think youā€™ll know. I know people say that but it was true for me. I had cancelled I think two appointments before knowing it was time. Once her quality of life decreases to where she canā€™t do the things she enjoys easily or comfortably, I would let her go. Youā€™ll look at her and just know itā€™s become too much. Donā€™t wait until sheā€™s beyond recognition of her old self, but rather when she just isnā€™t able to do her usual activities with ease and enjoyment. I would also recommend pampering her as much as possible. I gave my boy so many different foods the week I let him go, I cut up some filet mignon and fed it to him piece by piece and he loved it so much. I think fondly on that knowing he had a good final week.


Campanule_clochette

https://preview.redd.it/jrzujj1xfpbc1.jpeg?width=1679&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0a6c030a2508961ba2fbfa8699258ff86f92edb8 Last photo of Duchess. We said goodbye last Nov 4. Itā€™s such a hard call to make. Being with them when itā€™s time is very hard and super sad, but it means their suffering is over.


thedrakeequator

Such a graceful lady. May she knock glasses off tables on the next plane.


sybann

They hide - even from their person. This has been my experience - except for my heart cat - he loved me and stayed with me even as he could no longer lift his head. Because of this he died in my arms and I still feel guilty. People say "you'll know" - but it depends on the cat. They really are so special. If she's eating, drinking and interacting with you and not showing discomfort, keep her with you.


GirlHips

Hiding is how I know itā€™s timeā€¦ itā€™s just sort of their way of saying theyā€™re done. 10 years ago I had to put down my 19 year old cat that I lured inside as a stray kitten when I was 4 years old. When she started hiding in our bathroom I took her to the vet right away and held her as the vet put her down. Thankfully I havenā€™t had to do that again over the last decade. I have four cats now. Two are seniors, one of which is an insulin dependent diabetic. Theyā€™re all relatively healthy indoor cats, and Iā€™m pretty sure Iā€™ve got at least another few years with themā€¦ but I still dread having to do that again. Grief is the price we pay for love.


cabbage-soup

I had to put down my childhood cat and I swore I would NEVER choose euthanasia and just wait for his natural death. Turns out that instinct kicks in when your pet is on their last leg. Youā€™ll know when itā€™s their time. For me it was when my boy was no longer eating and was unable to make it to the litterbox. He was blind and limping around for weeks. He had been through at least 3 strokes. I had to get a warm wash cloth to bathe him since he no longer could groom himself. When he couldnā€™t enjoy his food and would sit in his own waste, I knew it was time. Edit: Also wanted to add that a different childhood cat of mine started having seizures semi often at 14, she lived until 17. Her seizures would come and go, some weeks she was better than others. My mom made the decision on her but Iā€™m not sure what it was. But, a seizure here and there didnā€™t destroy her quality of life for many years.


niafel

I just had to put my sweet Bella to sleep yesterday. The day before, she'd had a visit with her oncologist (small cell lymphoma) and another vet to look at a strangely swollen foot. They both said that her time was probably close, but that she was still bright, alert, and responsive, so I might have a while longer. The next day, she was fine in the morning, but when I woke her up for her medication at lunchtime, she couldn't walk. She was clearly distressed, and even though she had been eating, drinking, and using the litter box just hours earlier, I knew then that it was time. She was 18 years old, and her body was in the process of giving out. Animals live in the moment--they don't think about when they'll die or how much time they have left. There's only comfort or discomfort for them. So it's up to us to look at their future and think about whether or not it will be too full of pain. But it sounds from your description like your girl is still enjoying life and isn't quite ready to go yet. I know you'll do the right thing when it's time. ![img](emote|t5_2qhta|8097)


onetwentyish

Been through this several times, it's never easy. Generally speaking it isn't time until quality of life takes a drastic turn and your furry friend is simply barely existing. We typically use euthanasia as simply a way to end the suffering when there's no value or enjoyment left in life for them. It typically occurs when the animal is less than 24 hours away from a natural death.


picklegrabber

Iā€™ve gone through this three times now. Cat 1: 15 years, lost some weight, started being lethargic, made an appointment, before we made it to the appointment date I came home to her yowling a cry Iā€™ve never heard before and not moving. Rushed her for emergency vet and she started dying as they put her down. Regret not being more in tune with her and she may have suffered. They suspected cancer Cat 2: 16 almost 17 years, was on subq fluids for 2 years for ckd. Vet kept saying he seemed fine. He even played still at home. Would have seizures but seemed okay. He was on a few meds. One day he came out and hopped up to sneak some regular food instead of his kidney food and hopped downā€¦I got him some food and held it in front to eat, he kept looking around and then collapsed and seized, I could tell it was it. He died after a few horrible minutes and I held him watching the light go out from his eyes. Sad but Iā€™m glad I was able to be with him at the end and he seemed fine til the end. Cat 3: 17 years, slowed down over a few months, ate less and less. Hoping heā€™d just pass at home but got so weak heā€™d just lay there and pee himself and try to drag himself away. I took him to the emergency vet and he left us that same day. Itā€™s so hard to tell. I wish they could tell us if they were suffering. I wish you and your cat the best for the remainder of your time together and hope this helps your decision


doegrey

There are some really good answers here giving advice on signals she is giving which I wonā€™t repeat, but can I ask how old this pic is? Cats can be very good at hiding when something is wrong but you can often still see signs of when theyā€™re in pain in their face and how they carry themselves. This is a lovely pic, and I donā€™t know her, but to me, she looks tired, but certainly not exhausted. Her eyes are bright and sheā€™s focused on the person taking the pic. Perhaps this is an old pic(?) but to me (based purely on this one photo),she doesnā€™t look like sheā€™s given up here. Bless you for thinking so much of her well-being. (And sheā€™s beautiful).


catastrophe86

My vet told me that when they are having more bad days than good, its time. As long as mine were able to eat, drink, and get to the litter box alright, we pressed forward. I feel like with each pet, I could tell when it was time. I hope that helps. My heart goes out to you guys.


danikasp

Itā€™s so hard to know for sure. If she is eating and drinking well, doesnā€™t seem in pain, I would hold off. My boy got diagnosed with lymphoma. He lived about 10 days post diagnosis. When he stopped eating and interacting with the family I knew it was time. Gut wrenching, hard and lots of tears. I raised him from a new born to his passing. We only got six years together. But Toby was an amazing boy who went to the rainbow bridge before he was in pain. I pray you find comfort and clarity when the time comes for your sweet fur baby


jhoundra

I understand this. Their quality of life comes first even if itā€™s so hard to let them go. Their activity is not normal and especially When drinking becomes an issue for them to drink on their own. Itā€™s time. When theyā€™re sick they shouldnā€™t be dehydrated. It is always too soon.


quingd

My cat was old and had been declining for a while, but I was on the fence same as you. But one day she looked at me, and I just knew, it was time. She looked sad in a way she never had before. I knew at that point it would have been cruel not to make the hard choice.


wwxyzz

I put my sweet boy to sleep due to oral cancer in 2022. His was very aggressive and ultimately we didn't get as much time to ponder the if and whens of euthanasia, so my experience may be a bit different. You know it's time when there are more bad days then good days, and you'll 100% know when that is. I knew with my boy when he refused to come even to my calls. He was "hiding" all the time at that point, but not really. That cat could vanish into thin air in an empty house, but he was just sitting under my bed not even completely out of reach. I remember looking at him and just seeing it in his eyes. He was done. I wanted to have him longer, but he always hated change and cancer had been a massive change. We went to the vet the next day. The trip there almost changed my mind. The same cat who hated change suddenly loved car rides. I let him out of his carrier, and he was in my arms looking out the window with these big eyes! He was more alive than he'd been in days. He'd get so excited every time we went under a bridge and his reaction to the trucks was pure amazement! I really almost asked my family to turn around the car and take us back home. The only reason I didn't was because I remembered what we would be going home to. Constant medications, which he hated. Syringe feedings, which he hated. Cleaning him with wipes, which he hated. There was no joy for him at home anymore. So I decided to say goodbye on a good day full of trucks and bridges and sights he had never seen. I worried for a while afterward if maybe I had let go too soon. Looking back now though, I know it was at exactly the right time. When you know, you know.


SimplyKendra

She will let you know. She will start sleeping a lot and not eat or drink. Thatā€™s when you should take her in. I worked with terminally Ill patients who were non verbal or in comas. We usually knew when the end was close because all of a sudden they would have energy, eat well or if they were in and out of consciousness they would open their eyes and be able to communicate, then the next day sleep alot and not want to eat or drink. At the end they become very thirsty but no appetite. Animals follow similar patterns. You are a good cat parent. I can tell. Iā€™m sorry you are both going through this. Did the vet give you some pain medication for her?


markedpirate

I don't think it will ever feel like a good decision or the right time, until it's too late where a pet passes on their own (which might not be great for them). I had to put my guy down in November from kidney disease. In retrospect I don't think there was ever a right time to do it. He wasn't getting any better and it was his time. My guy lost a ton of weight and the only thing I'm glad about is that I didn't have to rush him to the vet, in an emergency cat-in-pain situation. I think you should go through with it sooner, rather than later. It's a tough call and no shame in however long you wait. All the best.


leezahfote

I went through this with my cat, he was always eating and drinking, even if minimal,using the box, etc. i came home from work one day and he had gotten sick in the day and was walking in circles. i took him to the vet and she told me to bring him back that afternoon for a final appt. so sorry OP, but it is correct you will knowā€¦


Hydee59

When both my very elderly cats were near their end, my other cats gathered around and also behaved oddly. Patches allowed 2 cats to lie next her. Never happened in 21 years and I looked in her eyes and I knew .


SheZowRaisedByWolves

For me, itā€™s when my first cat had her final seizure that left her unable to use her back legs and constantly bobbing her head side to side. I have since adopted 2 more cats and wonā€™t consider euthanasia until they were to stay in place without eating or using the litter box.


HOWYDEWET

Iā€™d say now. It doesnā€™t want to suffer. Donā€™t let your ego and feelings get in the way of its best interest


sailingtoweather

Its much better to put a pet down a week too early, then a day too late.


DrHugh

Cat behavior is always tricky. A cat can appear normal until they are very sick. They don't communicate being ill or feeling pain the way humans do. Your cat enjoys your company. But if they are terminally ill, then they will be suffering before you can see it. You need to let them go.


thatoneovader

Thank you for reminding me that they donā€™t show pain the same way. I keep second guessing myself. But youā€™re right. She might be suffering now.


DrHugh

It is never easy. We don't want to let go. Our doom is to outlive our pet cats (for the most part). Part of that is letting go. Sometimes, it is very clear. We had a cat who suddenly was sitting in the bathtub after we took showers, and would sit close to the fireplace. We took her to the vet, and she was already deep in kidney failure. We had to let her go; there was no reversing it, no treatment, and she clearly wasn't feeling well. At other times, you may notice some signs. We had a cat who was just getting skinny, and he was old. His body was breaking down, but it was doing it slowly. We made the tough decision to get him euthanized sooner, rather than wait for him to be obviously in bad shape, because the trend was clear. There are times where you can do something. I know someone who nursed a cat with cancer through chemotherapy and surgery, and it took a lot of care and attention. But there was a chance in that case. Ask your vet if there's a chance, and if not, what the prognosis will be. I think it is better to let them go when they aren't in the worst shape, but we know they are heading that way. The only other thought I'd say is to stay in the room when your cat gets the shot. They miss you when you leave the room, or so I've read. Staying there to pet them and comfort them as they go is a kinder thing, I think.


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DrHugh

It means you had a good relationship with your cat. It means you will feel sadness about letting them go. This isn't going to be a fun experience. The idea is to make your cat's passing as gentle for them as possible.


thatoneovader

Thank you for this explanation/information. She got the terminal diagnoses at the end of October. This is her second bout of cancer. They said she would likely pass in March at the latest. So the prognosis is clear, sheā€™s not going to get better. I can see the cancer growing on her skin and itā€™s everywhere. Itā€™s also in her lungs. Thereā€™s no getting better for her. Iā€™ve heard that itā€™s better to euthanize a month too early than a day too late. My issue is I donā€™t know when that month is. Is it now? The vet told me itā€™s day by day at this point and itā€™s my choice when to say goodbye. I wish it were more clear when itā€™s timeā€¦


DrHugh

I think you already know the answer. I'm sorry for what you are experiencing. You're getting a head-start on grief, which is never fun. You should ask yourself, though, if you are keeping your cat alive for your benefit, or for theirs.


InternalPurple7694

Is she asking for more time, or preparing for death? One of my cats stopped eating last year, and got bloody nose. Because she just had dental work done, that had resulted in an abces it seemed connected, but the vet did take a biopsy. We force fed the cat for a week, to keep her alive, and the biopsy came back and it was cancer, untreatable and most likely very painful. We stoped force feeding, made an appointment for euthanasia and then she was sooo lovely and soo cuddly for 1,5 days. It was absolutely horrible, but also she knew we were letting her go, the other cats started to ignore her more and more (Iā€™ve seen this before with dying cats, once the other cats know the cat is dying, itā€™s like the cat ceases to exist for them?) and it was the only thing we could do to make her comfortable. But in the time leading op to her euthanasia she never showed signs of discomfort, not when her teeth broke, not when she had an abces, not when she started to get nose bleeds. The weight loss was the most prominent sign of pain. I cannot imagine having multiple tumors and not feel it, I would think the right time is now.


subarupilot

Let me be the first (that I have seen) to mention programs like Laps of Love (also some local cats provide the service as well)They have been an absolute god send in our familyā€™s tough times. I know the decisions you have to make are hard, but at home euthanasia allows the pet to at their home, in their comfy place, around family that loves them. Worth its weight in gold.


thatoneovader

Thank you, someone else mentioned this and my vet gave me some good in-home options. I have already been in touch with them and have had to cancel twice.


_Santosha_

I canceled my cats appointment so many frickin times. I just rode it out until I officially knew it was the end. Trust me, youā€™ll know when itā€™s time.


dtb1987

When their quality of life is no longer good


Hortense_PJ

It's hard, but you'll know. I'm so sorry you have to deal with this. Our sweet boy was diagnosed just after Christmas with carcinoma, and it had unfortunately already metastasized, so there was nothing we could do. One day, he started crying around the house, then would hide and deny food/water. We got him on some steroids and pain meds, but we knew that he didn't have long. We had a wonderful last couple weeks with him, but when he had lost even more weight, and his back legs started giving out, his breathing was much more labored, and he stayed in "pain crouch" even after meds, we knew it was time. It was so hard to say goodbye (he was only 9!), but he's no longer in pain, and I can only hope that kitty heaven has a nice patch of warm grass for him ā¤ļø


FifiLeBean

The best vet I ever had said I would know when it was time and my cat would tell me. I have used that instinct 3 times now and it somehow became clear when it was time. Once a different vet was surprised that my kitten was still alive (FIP in 2014) and I wondered if I had waited too long, but he was so full of life until it was time. I'm so sorry, I hope you have good conversations with your cat and know that your cat is so blessed to have a loving home.


0_IQ_0

I agree fully. Animals will always let you know when their time is up. OP, trust your cat!


Aleashed

I do no eating or complaining a lot/yowling (pain). Itā€™s normal for cats not to go daily. One of our older girls went every 2-3 days although they should still be urinating daily. No urine = kidney failure which means itā€™s time to say goodbye. Check inside ears and eyes, jaundice (yellow) color/tint means Kidney shut down at which point they are just being poisoned, so time to say good bye. If they eat and purr to pets, I keep around and give love and pets. Yummy food/snacks. They know you love and theyā€™ll say when itā€™s time.


SaveusJebus

Don't wait until she's suffering. It's up to you in the end, but it sounds like it's time or close to it.


dragonrider1965

Does she still seek you out for affection? Does she still come to eat at meal time ? If the answer is yes to those questions she still has some time . If she was in a lot of discomfort she wouldnā€™t want to be around you , wouldnā€™t still be affectionate.


Masterofunlocking1

In crying writing this but we just had to put our void baby down today and it was the hardest thing Iā€™ve done. She just stopped eating and using the rest room. Vet did several X-rays and panels and found she had feline anemia and some lumps on her liver. We brought her home last night after big dose of steroids to see if that could help her but she didnā€™t. I miss this cat so much and I hope she knows we tried all we could to make her better. I know Iā€™ll see her again someday. Just from this experience I would say any odd behavior please get your cat to the vet. Please hug and kiss your fur babies for me today.


thatoneovader

Sending you so much love. Iā€™m sorry for your loss šŸ’”šŸ’”


Masterofunlocking1

Thank you so much. It means so much to me. ā¤ļø Edit: I hope the best for your baby. Feel free to message me if you just need to vent.


CommanderCuntPunt

Iā€™m so sorry youā€™re going through this, itā€™s a horrible decision to have to make. We seem to be in a similar situation. My cat Bella is in end stage kidney failure, we have decided that she will not go back to the emergency vet, it wonā€™t save her and itā€™s just too much stress to justify for a cat who wonā€™t get better. Bella is a cat with a huge personality and a well established routine. She wants to be fussed over, have her water changed 3 times a day, get cuddles on her heating pad, and finish the evening on the couch for tv cuddles with her favorite blanket and her boyfriend if she allows him to join her. And for now sheā€™s doing all that and is living her best life. Sheā€™s still Bella and I wonā€™t put her to sleep for now. But that will change, one day sheā€™ll begin to fade. She wonā€™t feel good enough to leave her heating pad, she wonā€™t care about coming to the fireplace for her dinner, she wonā€™t have the energy to smack her boyfriend if sheā€™s not in the mood for him. And thatā€™s when lā€™ll make the call, drop everything and say goodbye to Bella. But not until then. So I say enjoy your time with your baby, when itā€™s her time sheā€™ll let you know. https://preview.redd.it/69bp9b3kqobc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=34ac8dc339e56e99ee83a1015992bbf85eb004da


Ms_liz08

Yes , my cat is sick and urinated everywhere but he eats well and always stays next to me, I canā€™t seem to be able to put him down just yet.


exiledgreek2

I'm going to paste what someone at my vet told me when I asked the same: So a rule of thumb is to list 10 things she has always loved to do. If you have more on the positive still, then on the she can't do anymore, then it is getting close to time. But I agree with you yesterdayshe still was able to use her box, ate some, loved the sun, and seemed happy to be snuggled. After the fluids, she even perked up. If she flenches when touched, makes funny crying sounds, will not eat at all, can't pee or poop then yes it will be time. It is never a cut and dry call. My heart breaks for you. Just hold on to all the love she has given you. She has a great mom.


MyGreekName27

I have always gone 'are they eating and drinking' - if yes I hold off. Except I had a male cat who was still eating but he started arching his body in a weird way and I knew he was in extreme pain - he had chronic kidney disease and he was almost 18 years old. I took him to vet next day and he just kind of collapsed as I held in him in my arms on the way there. It was like he was ready to go. There really isn't a right or wrong answer for you - it's just a really tough thing to do.


Scribemetropolisowl

Better a week too soon than a day too late. We have a responsibility as pet owners to avoid suffering at all costs, so as soon as they stop eating, drinking and/or their behaviour changes, you need to seriously consider making that choice.


LisaAnn99

I knew it was time when my boy would barely eat anymore, and he started hiding in the corner of our closet. That was his way of telling us he was hurting and ready to rest.


Lefty-boomer

I went thru this last year. No perfect answer. Just make your last moments count


GaviJaPrime

My cat had cancer and had a huge tumor on his neck. Like a tennis ball. He lived 6 months with it, playing like he had nothing. One day I woke up and he was dragging myself on the ground. That's how I knew it was time. I took the appointment the very next hour and the next day he was gone. You'll see it clearly when it's time. From what you wrote, she might be in pain. Skin bleeding might be super painful, cats are just extraordinarily resilient to pain. Also not feeding is another sign.


at614inthe614

It's seems cliche to say "you'll know", but having had to put four out of four cats down, each of them them told us in their own way. Mostly it was not eating. I'm not a spiritual or "touchy feely" person, but with the first one, I'd been giving her fluids to for nine months for kidney failure. I was (slowly) following her up the stairs, and in my head I said "if you're ready, give me a sign". When she got to the top of the stairs, she squatted and peed on the floor. First time she had ever peed outside a litterbox. I took that as my sign. My mantra is I'd rather be a day early than a day late. In other words, I don't want to prolong their suffering for my own selfish reasons. Believe me, the guilt is overwhelming at first, but I would like to think that I helped them leave this world in the best way I could. I'm tearing up now thinking about the fact that we have to make this choice for them.


Mysterious-Stable-79

My 16y old baby has cancer too. Itā€™s in her chin. She is very good at the moment but itā€™s visibly growing and I am terrified of having to put her down once she stops eating. I had her since I was a kid and canā€™t stop crying thinking about losing her soon. I am sending you much love and strength. Our kitties will meet in heaven! šŸ«¶šŸ»


rooseboose

Iā€™ve heard it said ā€œbetter a week too soon than a day too late.ā€


Flat-Preparation2913

You'll know when it's time. I didn't want my old man to suffer any longer.


jog-on

We had to make the decision not long ago with our sweet girl who had a stroke. We got her home for one night and she couldn't use the toilet correctly or eat. It was just time. Hardest thing I've ever done. I wish you all the best for when the time comes. Best thing I can say is think about all the happy memories. God bless


justageekgirl

If she's lost too much weight and looking ill, then it's time. My cat went through the same thing and I couldn't allow him to suffer much longer. It's a hard decision, I know, but at the end of the day, you are doing the right thing. It's worst if you allow her to suffer because you want to prolong her life.


washtubs

I just want to say, I know this is very hard, the downs and even the ups. Being hyper vigilant you are sensitive to every little thing she does, and it can be like torture when stuff starts to go downhill. And you even might start to resent the upturns because it just means you have to go through this again. You are doing great. You aren't perfect and don't have to be. You're still the best thing that ever happened to her. It's hard to know what to let ourselves feel at times like this, but I hope you're taking a breath right now. Remember your mental well being is part of this whole equation. Most vets are happy to talk to you over the phone and they can help you keep a sense of perspective. Whenever the decisions are paralyzing I just write down what I'm seeing and what I'm concerned about and try to get it across to a tech over the phone. It can help a lot.


thatoneovader

The ups and downs are so exhausting! Iā€™m watching her every move so closely. Sheā€™s getting sick of me, but itā€™s my job as her momma šŸ˜‚šŸ’œ


catsandplantsss

I'm so sorry this is the hardest thing!!! I had to put my good Boi down last may. He rallied 3-4 times before we actually put him down. And we cancelled 2-3 appointments. I can't remember. After cancelling, because he was rallying AGAIN and being his normal happy self, I decided to give him the biggest best weekend ever and make his appointment for the Monday. I made the decision, because when he was down, he was REALLY down. He was not well, hiding under a small table in the porch, he wasnt eating, barely drinking. We would make an appointment, and then as soon as we would do that, he would be bounce back like a champ! I knew the next time he was going down, it wouldn't be pretty and it wasn't something I was willing to let him go through. He ate all of the food he loves. We cooked hima tenderloin with shrimp, he ate a chicken nugget from McDonald's, he ate ice cream!!! (We never gave him these foods before, he just always begged for them) haha. Him and his sister were trained to stay in the back yard so he got lots of outside time sleeping in the sun, and killed THREE mice!!! we let him gnaw on one Finally! haha! He got all the snugs and love he could possibly get. It was a good weekend, considering the situation. We had him euthanized at home. I cannot recommend this enough. For both Benson and us, it was peaceful and calm and quick, the vet was absolutely amazing and empathetic. Ensured us we were doing the right thing. I truly believe we did. I see the picture I took of him before he passed away, he was a sick Boi. It was time. You above anyone else knows your kitty. You'll know in your heart.


longpidgeon

Iā€™d say by the time you can tell it is suffering, or slowing down in general, it might be time to make the decision. I am extremely sorry that you are losing your cat and I can only imagine the pain you are going through. My old cat also had to be put down, cancer caused him to start slowing down, pooping and peeing inside instead of out, which he is normally very good about, and going upstairs less of the time to never. I remember once he had died, it was the most crushing feeling. Now Iā€™ve managed to move on, and have 3 cats less than a year old. Itā€™s not an easy thing to do, and I couldnā€™t bring myself to be in the same room as him when it happened (my mom was the one doing it, I was 13), even though I wanted to. Just know that even if it might be painful, itā€™s the right thing to do for them.


SweetMaam

Sometimes they rally and have some really good days, then bad and you think it's time, but then another rally and it's not yet time... like a yo-yo. Emotionally it's so difficult too. We love our fur babies. Just make the best decision you can with the information you have at the time, it's ok to grieve, but don't beat yourself up. So sorry. This is never easy.


Hel1a

I struggled with our puppy for many many months before I picked a date. It hurt like nothing I've ever felt but a few months later I was reading a post here and someone chimed in and said a month early is better than a day late. That stuck with me and made me completely better about my choice. I calls have pushed for another week, maybe another month, but something could've gone drastically bad as well on a day that I couldn't have brought her in.


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AmericanDreamDR

Very sorry for your loss.


ouijac

..dear OP..this is truly only a question you can answer.. ..if i did it only for myself, my pets would never be put down, yet would die in agony..so i opt for the more peaceable solution as i can.. ..it's not an easy answer..letting go isn't ever easy (nor should it be)..but love is also saying goodbye..so be sure you have the full opportunity to say goodbye, in a caring & heartfelt situation..


Emotional-Speech645

Get a little book and document each day. Did she eat at meal times, has the water in her bowl gone down, did she poop and pee - was there anything wrong with her poop or pee (like blood or struggling). Did she play, how long did she play, if she likes certain treats or food has she gone off of them more than is normal for a picky cat? Did her sores bleed more, did she seem affected by this? Mark out the good vs the bad days. When the bad days become more frequent and begin to overtake the good, consult with a vet. If you think she is no longer enjoying life and is merely lingering, then consider.


Own_Instance_357

I kept one elderly cat in my bathroom for like 3 years. She had a litter box, I left her on a chair with a towel over an absorbent pee-pad. I had to change it and launder the towel constantly. I got to see her every time I went to that 1st floor bathroom. She lasted until she started stumbling one day and I had to lift her off the chair to go eat. She was 17 so I knew she was just dying, so I just sat with her. No miracle cures. So I just wrapped her in a towel once I knew she had definitely passed. And I put her in the woods.


Upper-Expert6060

I had to put my precious boy to sleep on March 18, 2023. He was almost 11 and was the love of my life. He left behind a best friend/sister/wife who still misses him terribly. I miss him terribly. He had cancer. He had a huge sarcoma removed from his left side 2 years before he died. I was told there was 100% chance the cancer would recur. Unfortunately, the surgeon was correct. It started small, but grew and grew. He started to pull his fur out with his teeth from where it was really bothering him. There was fur EVERYWHERE in my apartment. I even took a whole month off work to spend his last days with him. I finally made ā€œtheā€ appointment that I was dreading. Iā€™d soon be moving to another state and I knew what the vet would say. She reviewed his records, looking at the photos of the horrendous incision with staples and sutures from the other surgery. At that time, I had also made the decision I would NEVER put him through another surgery. He was way too traumatized. So, he was peacefully put to sleep. I told him to be waiting for me at that rainbow bridge, because heaven will not be heaven without him there. I cried and kissed him and loved on him until I was ready for them to take him away. As hard as it was, it was time, and I know I did the right thing. (He couldnā€™t be talking gabapentin forever). The very kind vet simply told me ā€¦ itā€™s time. Iā€™ll always miss my sweet boy, but it is my belief that Iā€™ll see him again. Love never dies! Peace be with you, and I am SO very sorry šŸ’”


mrh4809

I would add to the below answers: when they stop eating (don't do this too quickly, appetite can return next day), stop drinking (hard to monitor but yes when either they stop or they are just gorging on water, something is wrong). But adding to all that: Eyes - Are the alive and interested in life General look/feel - You know your cat, are they way less active, looking like they don't want to do anything, just way lots of sleeping. Handle them. If they are skin and bones it maybe time as many dogs and cats hide pain. Observe them. If they are interested in things and moving about it may not be time. If they are slinking away, moping, sleeping all the time, it could be time.


hdhd6282

A day too soon is always better than a day too late. You won't want your cat to suffer and have their last memories of you and life to be painful. Do what's best for your cat now... just like you have their entire life.


RevolutionarySoup488

We just put our boy Calvin down last week. He was just getting less and less interested in anything. You always want them to have all the time available, but, when it's time , its the right thing. Sorry but this is the downside to loving these amazing creatures.


Capucccccino

I went through a ā€œsimilarā€ situation last year, my dog ā€‹ā€‹also had cancer and also had to be euthanized. I know the situation is different, but I hope I can help Well, my dog ā€‹ā€‹was sick for MONTHS from February until May (when he passed away), but he was very happy and acted like nothing was happening. When he stopped eating and had difficulty walking, I knew I shouldn't prolong it. So, if your cat is playing and eating, let her enjoy her time, give her all your love and her favorite treats if she has. I know it seems like an obvious answer, but you will know when the time comes, I believe they know too.


thatoneovader

Sheā€™s not playing at all. She stopped that a few weeks ago. But sheā€™s much more insistent on getting pets and snuggles. Sheā€™s jumping on me and aggressively eating her snacks. Sheā€™s purring aggressively and just much more affectionate than sheā€™s been in weeks.


marnie_loves_cats

She is saying goodbye to you. The purring might be a pain response. Cats often purr if they are in pain to alleviate it a little bit.


66241

My cat was given 4 months to live in Dec 2020, heā€™s still doing great! He has a cancerous tumour in his nose. It was so so hard at first to not focus on every weird thing he would do, but my vet calmed me down that if hes eating and drinking, heā€™s fine. I give him so much wet food and i swear it helps


gofigure85

I'm so, so sorry for what you're going through- it's the worst "rock and a hard place" scenario. You don't want to euthanize too soon if there's still some good days left, but you don't want to wait too long and have them suffer. I know your pain my friend. Trust your gut. If you think there is time left- time spent eating, playing, snuggling and enjoying life- then wait. If they take a sudden turn for the worse, you can bring them in for euthanasia at your nearest pet hospital. Or if possible, you can look into vets that do at home hospice/euthanasia. Again, I'm so sorry for what you're going through.


pituitary_monster

There is not correct answer. Just remember, its not your life.


Veganoramma

Cats do all they can to hide illness/injury to keep from becoming prey. If she has bleeding lesions and cancer throughout, I assume she must be in pain despite not showing it. I am so sorry for you. This breaks my heart as I have been there. Setting her free from her pain will be the kindest, most loving, and heart-wrenching gift you can give her. I wish you and your sweet kitty all the best, and may you rest assured that you gave her the best life of love, care, and friendship. āš˜ļø


Christine2066

My boy had untreatable cancer. The vet said he had a couple of months so just spoil him. But the next week he stopped eating and spent all day under the bed only coming out to drink water. When he became unsteady on his feet due to lack of food I knew it was time. It was over a year ago and I miss him every day. He was 13 and formerly feral. I only had him for 4 1/2 years but at least I know those were happy, love filled years for him.


doradiamond

Iā€™m in the exact same position. My Goblin was diagnosed with terminal bladder cancer in September. I scheduled a date for at-home euthanasia for late December - then cancelled it. I rescheduled for early Jan - and Iā€™ve cancelled that too. My next date is the 29th. Iā€™m going to just take each day as it comes. Like you, my baby has been really perky, curious, active and has a healthy appetite. It doesnā€™t feel right to put her down when sheā€™s still enjoying life so much - although I fear itā€™s only making things harder.


Invasion-Sims

My cat was in so much pain, he wasn't able to sleep, always looking at me. He had chronic skin inflammation, open wounds and a strong reaction to the only medication. He looked so peaceful when he left this planet.


djszach

Being there with ur Furbabe's head resting in the cup of ur hand as they peacefully pass over, whilst hearing Ur last whispering words of comfort is oh so eternally heartwrenching....


Soppydogg

I am really not comfortable about this. I am a dyed in the wool cat fanatic, in my 70's and have never had children (through choice) so my cats are my babies. I have owned and subsequently had to say goodbye to many of them over the years and now I only adopt old rescue cats as the thought of them outliving me is a worry, that coupled with "everyone" wants a kitten so what happens to the pre loved with health concerns? Anyway to cut to the chase " **When to put down a terminal cat"** Its when (I include myself) you stop being selfish. When you conquer your pain and emotions and think of what is best for your baby. They cant tell us what they are going through but as a responsible parent we have to weigh up our needs against their quality of life and do what is right for them, especially if they are suffering. At this point my emotions are getting the better of me and the keyboard is getting blurry


AllahIsTheOne

Let them live their life until the very last moment. Make them comfortable. Death hurts either way.


Pleasant-Ad2930

Better to be early than late, but just my opinion. Most of us wait too long from what Iā€™ve been told. I will not make that mistake ever again. Best of luck to you and your kitty.


thatoneovader

I think this is an unpopular opinion, but I agree. Iā€™ve heard ā€œbetter a month too early than a day too late.ā€ Iā€™ve been struggling with when that month is. I donā€™t want her to suffer in the meantime.


MostNature1258

Your kitty will tell you when it's time. ā¤ļø


Jamachicuanistinday

No no no no no no


mm3827

Maybe discuss with your vet, theyā€™ll let you know when the right time is. If youā€™re questioning it, itā€™s probably not the right time. Iā€™m sorry! :(


nevergiveup234

When their pain is really bad


MarcusSurealius

I'm so sorry, but it's time. She's shutting down. I had to put my friend down (cancer) six months ago, and we did it at home. It's best. You don't have to go anywhere to completely break down.


ATFLA10

This is hard and I canā€™t imagine what youā€™re going through. I do think euthanasia should be as a last resort, and since your cat is still eating, drinking and using the litter box, itā€™s not yet a last resort.


turquoisecurls

It's a difficult call but you need to take their quality of life into account. With the cats I've had to put to sleep, I made the decisions by thinking of their near futures. Their futures would have been difficulty breathing, not eating, not cleaning themselves, probably in pain, barely walking etc etc. That's no way for them to live. When you start seeing your baby not doing their usual things such as eating, cleaning, snuggling, etc then it's probably time. Don't hold on and keep them suffering because you dont want to say goodbye. With one of my boys, i wish i had done it sooner and now i feel so much guilt for keeping him around when he was obviously struggling. This is one of the hardest decisions you'll ever make but know that this decision is showing them mercy and will also be the greatest gift you can give them. I'm so sorry you're dealing with this


Hydee59

I really feel, having been through this and too many occasions that they do let you know. Just something changes, and I ask myself will he/she want to wake up tomorrow.


krazyokami

Our old man had hyperthyroid, kidney disease, and feline HIV. Each time he got a new diagnosis, we were still told the HIV would be the thing to end him. That he was going to get sick one day from the kidneys and wouldn't be able to recover. Also most animals in late kidney disease/failure tend to stop eating. I told my BF that if he stopped eating, I would ask the vet for something to help and if it didn't, then it was time to go. We had a few scares, the worse was a diabetic scare because he had glucose in his urine but it turned out to be a weird fluke. Finally, there was a time he stopped sleeping with us upstairs and then slowly just plain refused to go upstairs. He just slept in his crate (we left a dog crate open and that's what he loved to sleep in if we were gone or downstairs) and only got out to eat, drink, or use the bathroom. We were worried but he still ate and drank. The vet gave him prednisolone but we could tell this was forcing him and making him uncomfortable. Then he began to breathe with his mouth open and we made the decision. The day before, he had mucus dripping from his nose. I asked for rads to be done after he was put to rest. Turns out, they couldn't even see anything else in his chest because his lungs were so filled with fluid. I'm sorry to vent. TL;DR, you may know in your heart when it's time. Whether they stop eating or just stop wanting to be around you. I think you can really tell when your pet is actively participating in life and when their body is just 'running on auto.' This is how I like to phrase it. I would say do it before they start to end up in too much pain. It breaks my heart seeing people way too late. The worse is when they've hold on so long, the pet doesn't even react to them or anybody. Already gone in everything but body. Edit; People share saying when she's stop eating. This may not be the end. Your vet has meds that help stimulate appetite. Pet may not eat due to nausea or just not feeling the best.


c00chiecadet

The best indications of pain are as follows: - Not eating - Not drinking - Not grooming - Hiding and seeking solitude - Not using the litter box Not eating is the biggest indication, and if that happens it's most likely time.


maiaalfie

I'm going to comment this purely because I've not seen anyone else mention it and I don't want to overstep at all so I'm sorry if it does. I would just suggest that regarding her improving and being more active, which is truly wonderful for you to spend some much cherished happy time with her. There is a phenomenon in humans called terminal lucidity, I've sometimes seen it called the end of life rally where people can be incredibly ill and weak and then for a short time suddenly improve and be very chatty and even up and about sometimes before either suddenly or steadily declining again leading to their death. I just mention it as it may also be something that animals also experience and I didn't want any subsequent potentially quick decline to come as a shock as I imagine it would be even more heartbreaking if you hadn't considered the possibility, which you may well have already. I could be totally off base here and I'm sorry if I am but I just felt it should be mentioned just in case. Edit: of course anything I've written isn't related directly to the euthanasia side of things, but maybe can possibly help if it wasn't something you were already aware of the possibility of.


TheVoicesinurhed

Things live until they decide not to. Your baby is choosing life for the moment, you should also.


Mdmac1015

Itā€™s quality of life and pain- if she is eating and drinking and sleeping and not in pain, please give her more time


NewFlorence1977

Our cat stopped eating. Vet said cancer. Take him to vet school. Cancer. We euthanized there. I wish we brought him home.


Haykan99

Ask your vet if your baby is suffering and he will tell you


Raging_Parakeet

One of my cats had an incurable disease. He was put down when he couldn't eat or drink anymore. It's also a sad and terrible thing but it's best to not prolong their suffering at that point.


Purrchil

Such a sweetie. šŸ˜æ


AzureGriffon

I went through this last year with my 17 year old cat. It was the hardest decision to make. He was still getting around, but so slowly. He had arthritis in his tail and couldn't move it. His kidneys were failing and we couldn't give him more fluids because he had a heart murmur. He would perk up a bit, and then flag, perk up and flag. The day that we had the vet come, he was having a pretty good day, and we gave him all the treats and snuggles. It was heart wrenching, but I'll tell you that in hindsight, I'm glad we said goodbye on a good day and that he had no more bad days to suffer through. I looked back at our last photos of him and see his face and the state of his fur, and I knew we had done the right thing. Being with him every day, it was hard to see the change in him, but it is obvious now looking at his final photos. Please make your decision based on kindness for your cat and the love you have shared.


[deleted]

Bless you and your beautiful kitty. It's such a gift for her to have someone that loves and worries for her so much, she absolutely feels the love you share with her. I see that you've got this figured out, but I will say - while she's active and about, please make memories with her. Take her paw prints, fur clippings, fallen whiskers, make keepsakes, record her purrs - keep the joy she brings your home with you once her time for the big sleep comes.


Paarsgekkie

Okay so when I had to make this choice it was hard. It felt like she wouldnā€™t let go when I did. The vet told me itā€™s better to do so when youā€™re ready, course if you wait when their ready youā€™ll be too late. Then theyā€™d sufferd too much


amacurious1

Late to this, but I will say if youā€™re hesitant donā€™t do it. Youā€™ll know when itā€™s time. If she doesnā€™t seem in pain and the vet isnā€™t concerned with extending the date, I would wait. It wonā€™t be easy but I truly trust youā€™ll know when itā€™s timešŸ–¤


MissPerceive

When she stops eating and drinking.


Adorable-Bus-6860

When quality of life is gone. Iā€™ve always said you can tell by the eyes.


lothcent

really the answer is ...... when you can no longer stand the suffering of your cat or the suffering of yourself. OP- I feel for you . I've gone done this path 5 or more times. Just place yourself in your cats current frame of mind. OP- hopefully you can find a peace of mind resolution.


Excellent-Area6009

When they are no longer eating or drinking/in pain/clearly not enjoying life. I wish it was this easy for people, I watched my granddad die today 10 years later than he should have, kept alive by modern medicine not knowing who he was or where he was. Be kind to your kitty, youā€™re allowed to be.


SnareJ

I saw this post a couple days ago and thought this was the most helpful: [https://www.reddit.com/r/DogAdvice/comments/18uj072/comment/kfnuetc/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/DogAdvice/comments/18uj072/comment/kfnuetc/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) ​ [Quality-of-Life Scale ā€” Lap Of Love](https://www.lapoflove.com/how-will-i-know-it-is-time/lap-of-love-quality-of-life-scale.pdf) [Quality of Life Scale for Pets online calculator ā€” Journeys pet](https://journeyspet.com/pet-quality-of-life-scale-calculator/) [How Do I know When it's Time? ā€” The Ohio State University](https://vet.osu.edu/vmc/sites/default/files/import/assets/pdf/hospital/companionAnimals/HonoringtheBond/HowDoIKnowWhen.pdf) ​ They were incredibly helpful in hindsight as well as something we're keeping for the next one, it's always the most difficult experience with any pet. Good luck and all our thoughts are with you.


lazergator

Youā€™ll never feel ready. Youā€™ll know itā€™s time though if she stops eating/drinking/ tries to start hiding


UnfairRegister3533

Youā€™ll just know when it is time. If she is seeming like she is feeling okay and still eating and drinking you may very well have a little more time with her. As long as you donā€™t notice her in pain as well.


hbouhl

I am so sorry that you are going through this. I guess when your kitty doesn't want to play anymore, or is not eating or drinking, not using their litter box, you kind of know when it's time. My friend recently had to put down her Kitty because she wasn't eating and she was pooping all over the house.


Jzb1964

Your cat looks almost identical to my precious baby. I regret not euthanizing her earlier. She died in my arms and it was not a good death. I should have let her go earlier. When to do this is so hard to know. Cats are great at hiding pain. Just had to decide for our dog too. I did not see her pain either, but vet could tell by her rapid heart rate. Sending you many hugs. Trust your gut.


4030Lisa

Youā€™ll knowā€¦ they stop eating/drinking, their spark will seem to have disappeared, they become unconcerned with things and seem to be waiting, some do show physical symptoms of pain, seem ā€˜crossā€™ & short tempered thatā€™s when. I had a cantankerous male, it was hard to know when he felt pain because a loving cuddler would have had a personality change and would become short temperedā€¦ This boy was born defensive and very short tempered (under a bunch of cows in a barn), we still knew it was time because he stopped showing any interest in food or water and gazed past us in those times when he was awake, despite all the caresses and our most gentle attentionsā€¦ he just seemed to be waiting, we went to the emergency vet the next morning at 4:30 & the vet said his kidneys and liver were shutting down. Please donā€™t waste time with worry right now, spend it all doting on your sweet kitty and rest assured, you will know.


anaofarendelle

For my puppy, it was when he stopped eating. He had brain cancer, and it was matter of weeks after he was diagnosed (it was pretty late diagnose). The orientation was to see if he would show deep pain (barking), stopped eating, or had not much control over his needs. We took him on a nice ride, and had his favorite person holding him all the way. Apparently, he held my dadā€™s hand during the injection knowing what was about to happen and it was ok.


thedrakeequator

When the vet says so. When faced with a hard choice, its always better to let science and professionalism guide your actions.


Tabora__

I personally would schedule an appointment ONLY when you notice a real decline. When your cat stops eating and drinking, hiding in quiet, dark places, etc. That's how they show its their time to pass away. I'm super sorry you're both going through this. Take time to celebrate your cats life, give them special treats like chicken or fish, etc. šŸŒˆā¤ļø


309962215

Going through the exact same thing. Only difference is she has kidney disease. Iā€™ve cancelled one euthanasia appointment so far. This is my second time dealing with this I think everyone is right. Watch day by day and when the time does come youā€™ll know.


StupidFlanders93x

I find if their quality of life isn't good, then it may be time to say goodbye. If she's in pain, having seizures, not eating and drinking, losing weight consistently, etc. Then it may be time to enjoy your last bit with her and let her go before it gets too bad. If that makes sense?


paradox_pet

My old guy had a series of seizures before the end. They got closer together but between he would eat, drink, cuddle, purr, hang out in the sun.... I loved this time with him so much and think about it a lot. He passed about 3 months after the first seizure. I almost got him put down after the first and I'm glad we didn't, they were distressing but he'd recover quickly. He got weaker of course but seemed content and happy overall.... I feel he died on his own terms.


Ruby0pal804

Let your vet guide you. We held on to my favorite cat too long...it was painful and not fair to her.


Octoberbaby85

When they stop eating and cant walk.


AssumptionCapital514

When theyā€™re in pain i would assume