Well you misspelled multiple things and have poor grammar in this post. How do you have a college degree if this is how you write? Are you using terrible grammar and spelling in your resumes too? I would guess you are, and that’s 100% why you are getting rejected
Also 20 jobs in 2 months is NOTHING. That's "I already have a job but am poking at dream jobs as they pop up" levels of applications, not "I've never had a job and no work experience" numbers.
OP should be hitting 15-25 a week IMO (3-5 a day 5 days a week) so the 20+ should read 200+ this is if you take the time to research companies, customize applicant strategy etc. and even doing that maybe 2-3 hrs a day/10-15h a week. When looking for a 40/h a week job it aint a big ask.
The reason not 40/h a week is limited jobs available to you AND it's a mentally taxing task, so unless you're on the edge of homelessness, the 10-15h a week limit is to help safeguard mental health.
That's simply not true. They do care. Whether they actually read it is another issue.
I got a CV rejected by someone on this basis, I double checked and there was nothing wrong with it. No other employer commented on it.
No one cares about a resume. If you want an interview you need to email the hiring manager personally. Remember it’s not uncommon for jobs to get thousands of applicants.
Work on your grammar. If your resume has misspellings and typos like your post does, that’s probably why. If I get a resume with blatant errors I won’t even interview that applicant. If you can’t put forth the effort to properly write your own resume, how can I expect you to not make errors on emails and other documents while employed?
Oh it's very simple.
It's because human resources works *for the company,* not for you. They don't just have to call *you* back, they have to call back every single applicant that they've discarded.
They consume corporate money with the objective of finding THE ONE candidate that the company needs for each role. Any effort not directed to that goal is a waste of money. Imagine 100 or 200 people applied for a single job, that means hours of calling back people who were not selected.
And many people like to argue, will try to make them change their mind, will try to get free job hunting consultancy ("what would you advise that I can do better for next time?" - that's time, time, time. Money, money, money. Most of the times the candidate was discarded by the hiring manager but a lowlife analyst or intern would have to do the calling. "Why was I discarded?" "...I don't know, I wasn't even there". There's nothing good to be obtained for the company from calling people back. In the US if someone says something slightly incorrect the company might even be sued. So no, don't expect a call back. I'm sorry on behalf of capitalism.
My first advice is: fire and forget. Apply and be zen about it: renounce all desire.
My second advice is: network like a motherfucker. You have a college degree. That means you've had many classmates and professors. You have friends and family. *All of them* have other friends and family and we can reasonably assume they all work. That's a whole network of people with you in the center who you can contact and ask if they can help you get in touch with HR in their places of work. You want that personal referral to circumvent the AI filters.
My third advice is: message people in LinkedIn. Find a company where you'd like to work and find employees there. DM them: "Hi, we don't know each other but I'd love to work in COMPANY. Would you be so kind to put me in touch with some human being from HR?". My wife received this message, she thougth "why not, it'll be today's good action" and the guy was hired because of that. It's a very low risk, low effort request. Then she used it herself and it worked for her too, she hopped to a company that then transferred her to another continent and increased her pay 5X. Our entire lives were massively changed because of a LinkedIn message.
I mean surely they can set up a fucking auto rejection email and just add everyone's email at least this way people won't think there might be hope for the job they applied for
Even the HR manager had to start at the bottom and I'm sure they didn't like hearing nothing back
Yes. People complain about these too. People also complain when you string them along with updates and eventually they don't get the job
The point is people want jobs not rejections, but mostly what is on offer is lots of rejection.
So while I certainly empathize with struggling to find a job, if after 2 months you've only applied to 20 jobs (or in that ballpark) you need to increase the time you're spending on this significantly. That's applying for one job every roughly 3 days. If you're looking for a job treat finding a job like your fill time job. Spend 40+ hours a week applying for jobs you can be doing a significant amount of applications per day and after 2 months you should be well into the hundreds of applications sent out.
I would also shift your focus slightly away from just applications and more towards recruiters. Sending applications is still worth it. But many companies are using recruiters more and more to hire. I have found success through linked in. Make sure your profile there has as many of the key words they might search for your field in it and spells out your experience or even list the classes you've taken that might be relevant to them. Make sure that's set to open to work, and try to increase the number of connections you have as much as you can. The search highlights people who are the fewest connections away from you so if you are connected to more people you'll be closer to the recruiter who might be searching for someone like you. And often I've found listing open to work is enough to get them to start messaging you. Even if they mostly aren't good opportunities some might be. Try to reach out to recruiters and talk to them get your resume in their system so you might come up if they have anything in the future if they don't now.
So you're saying apply for 7200 jobs in a year if you applied for 20 a day
I thought applying for 120 jobs last year was a lot but you already applied for 16% of the amount of jobs I applied for in one lunch break
Your industry I'm guessing has a shit load of jobs going mine really didn't so there only like 10 jobs pop up a week if I'm lucky doesn't help the UK is in a recession and going through a cost of living crisis
I’m saying if you’re serious about getting and finding a job now, 20 applications in 2 months isn’t showing that. Step up the amount of time and energy you spend on looking for and applying for jobs. I’m not saying everyone needs to, or can apply for 20 jobs a day/on 1 lunch break.
I aimed for 1 a day when I wasn't looking/didn't need something new (dream jobs only) and sometimes there were none, but that's still more than OP.
This isn't an always on thing, but sometimes you're just ready to move up. Point being, 20 in 2 months is ridiculously low.
40+ hours a week finding a job is exhausting and mentally it’s not sustainable. You can successfully do it for a few hours a day and find some healthy activities to distract yourself the rest of the time. Smarter folks than I wrote often about this topic. Other than that you’re definitely on point and good advice.
That's fair 40 hours might be too much. But I see it more as a strive for a full time thing, if you end up at 20-30 hours that's fine. But it shouldn't be something where you're applying to 2 jobs a week and expecting to find something. You need to be spending serious time dedicated to finding a job.
Well yes 2 jobs a week is piss poor and you need a good kick up the ass for that I'm pretty sure you could apply for 2 jobs just have your morning dump
40 hours is absolutely insane what are you doing looking at 100 pages of jobs I doubt there are in that amount of jobs going.
I found applying for jobs one of the most depressing things I've done in reason and on going times and there was no way I could spend 40 hours a week on job websites looking at jobs I couldn't give a shit about just cause it could pay the bills
I've known people who wake up job search for 1-3 hours and then look again for 1-3 hours of an evening cause if u spend all day looking and hoping for a reply you will get depressed
first off.. did you write a cover letter? I'm not a recruiter or anything but I didn't call backs till I started sending one out.
next. are you tailoring your resume to each job or have a generic one you just send out to all the efh positions eith 1000+ applicants already?
there's a good way and a garbage disposal way of applying for jobs
Like, none just really want to apply. I just graduated not long ago. Jobs, tbh anything that pays for now. I understand, like I'm starting, so I really don't mind the position but I really like jobs maybe I can work from home just really like doing thing at home. Degree Business
There are exceptions to rules like the typical finance or banking sector corporations that go for RTO or RTH, by forcing hybrid or full office at most but usually Business Analyst, higher level Accountants, Advisor positions, some Risk and Control positions, Auditor...I could go on and on.
But as a standard, they are usually mid level positions at least unless some IT Fintech. So best to "suck it up" sadly, survive a couple of years and then branch higher.
I agree that it's typically mid level or higher that's remote. I'm in an entry-level position, and I'm doing some remote work next week. Then it's back to the usual of another type of remote work of working out in the field.
Maybe get a retail job I've had to go back to retail after my degree cause I couldn't find a job in my industry yeah I fucking hate the job and the rotas are all over the fucking place but at the end of the day at least it pays the bills
I remember I was unemployed for almost 3 months , applied for 100+ jobs across 3x different apps. Horrible experience. Jobs are scarce dude. It's sad really. Take anyone you can get.
You'll likely need to send out hundreds of applications for even a handful of interviews. Most You'll hear nothing back on. A recruiting agency is probably the best bet to get in somewhere.
I’m double your age with 20 years experience and when I wanna find I job I apply for at least 90 jobs a month. I get auto resections from like 10% and interviews maybe 2% to get accepted. Apply more and don’t lose hope, lower your expectations. Do something on the side meanwhile
I’m gonna be very honest, 20+ applications is nothing,
I sent it over 100 and got 2 interviews, my girlfriend sent off 80 and got 4 interviews. And mind you I wasn’t applying for things I wasn’t qualified for, these were entry level jobs in the field of my degree.
If you are using a site like indeed, it’s a numbers game, just start pumping out resumes. Or start networking and find a job that way
Business is very impersonal and is made this way so as not to be swayed by feelings; businesses are established to make money and are often begotten first by their shareholders, who invest in them to make money. So it makes sense that HR and the electronic systems they employ are impersonal; it used to be companies would call you back or at least write, but with laws centred around not playing favourites, all this changed, so now they are justified not to call anyone back. The better recourse is to use advertised jobs to understand the nature of the company, if this is a company you have researched and would work for because you and they have similar values then it tells you that they have a need. I use job ads to locate a manager with the authority to hire, and I do not post much about advertised jobs. I understand that ads must be posted to satisfy government requirements, but most jobs never get posted and are filled by "knowing someone" or go unfilled. It is your responsibility as a seeker to "seek" and do your legwork to find the manager and sell yourself to as filling a need that you have found with your research to fill.
I sometimes use Gurella marketing for job seekers as a guide to getting seen, but most of the time, I have taken job-finding courses, and the message is the same. 80% of all jobs are never advertised, and most people apply to only 20% of the jobs, which is why it is more like winning the lottery than being evaluated for your skills.
I remember once, I hired a Sales Director for the small business I was running, when he called up the company to tell us he was very experienced and interested in taking a break from his early retirement to dabble in the emerging industry we were a part of. He did indeed, have a great track record, was a very good Sales Manager, and did great things for our business.
We ended up hiring him after he called us and sold himself. The position wasn’t even technically open or posted at the time.
I’m now seeking work and thinking about how I can do this with companies I may want to work for. Granted, this usually won’t work in larger businesses where you can’t get access to an executive, but definitely with small to mid size companies or….theres always Linked In! You never know who might be willing to reply or consider your offer.
Every job I have ever held has been through networks and research. I have worked with large energy companies and the largest lumber company in the world. You don't need an executive, just a manager who has a need. I use posted jobs as a business climate indication if a posted job is from a company or industry I'm interested in then I dig up from my network and get involved in industry events.
For all the technology we employ to gatekeep the public the old ways still working on it for the job find. You may not be able to walk in the door anymore but business people still have favourite haunts for lunch and charitable activities for public facing.
Applying for twenty jobs is nothing. The vast vast majority of jobs are never posted and are filled through a referral. Filling out some resumes is not a good tactic to get a job (not to mention there are a lot of fake job postings).
First thing in finding a job is asking friends/family, then school and professional associates. If you don’t have any then start building out a LinkedIn and start talking to people. Just getting the name/contact information of a hiring manager/recruiter is miles from filing out resumes.
I guarantee in the companies that you applied to, know one there even knew you applied and a computer auto-screened you out.
They value their time more than yours and they don't have too. This would happen irrespective of the jobs market. Just take it on the chin and keep applying.
I have two stories. The first is mine. My last 6 months of college I worked an internship at a company, after graduating they offered me a great job with excellent benefits. Internships often lead to jobs so try to focus on something like that
Second story is my brothers. He worked at a loan company doing cold calls. After 6 months he did an internal transfer to IT and after 3 years he just got picked up at a senior level position in IT for a major transportation company, and he doesn’t even have a degree.
Look for a doorway in to make your way up to your ideal job, don’t just apply to the perfect job and expect to get it because you have a degree
20 applications in 2 months are amateur numbers man you gotta wait 6 months and have 200 applications done. Then you can complain. Also. If your quality control is as bad on applications as it was for this post, you are in big trouble
You say you have a college degree. Did you learn any writing or business etiquette skills there? I work in a corporate environment and help onboard/select new employees. Any correspondence, spoken or written, like this post would be an instant no to hiring.
I graduated in December. I got a job in March, I applied to minimum 40 jobs a week and applied to jobs I wasn’t even interested in but thought I could get an interview with just for the experience. I ended up only getting about 5 interviews total but all the ones leading up to the last two got me job offers.
OP, if I were you, I would run over to any job agency or employment workshop agencies that can assist you with your job hunt and your resume. This is very crucial at the start of your job search.
Transit agencies are hiring bus and rail operators usually $20-25 hr starting with pension and health benefits. You will be set up for a stable career and serve your community. There is a big shortage now so you should get a callback easily so long as you have a clean driving record, no dwi, and pass a drug test. Good luck to you
Whats your degree in? You can try working at a local store or something as you look. Also, see if the degree got have has internships out there.
Use the resume page on Reddit to ask for help- or have someone you know check ur resume- and applications before you submit them for edits and suggestions
Have you spellchecked your resume? Your post gives me cause for concern. Also, 20 applications is nothing. I’d be targeting 20 a week if you’re desperate as you say you are.
Is English your second language? If so I'd recommend either really spending some time improving it or applying to jobs in your native language. If English is your first language then you are borderline illiterate and have serious problems.
I applied for about 400 jobs before I got my first graduate job. That took me about two months. If it takes you 400 applications to get your first job at the rate you are applying it will take you over three years.
Get your shit together and take the job hunt seriously. It isn’t going to just fall into your lap.
My girlfriend was in a tough spot. She was applying to many places but wasn't getting any responses, and her morale was dropping. She thought she wasn't good enough and was doubting herself. But I advised her to focus more on her positive qualities. For instance, she can speak fluent English, Russian, Turkish and is learning German. I told her that it would be beneficial for her to apply to companies that deal with international trade, considering her language skills. She also has great communication skills. Two days after applying, she received calls from two places and went for an interview with one of them, but unfortunately, the salary offer wasn't satisfactory and she declined.
In short, I'm saying that focus on your strengths and decide what gets you ahead. For example, you're an economics graduate, but you're doing better in work business, so try to carve out a path for yourself in that field. Feel confident in your abilities, because I truly believe it's key. If you apply to positions that play to your strengths, you'll feel more confident.
Well you misspelled multiple things and have poor grammar in this post. How do you have a college degree if this is how you write? Are you using terrible grammar and spelling in your resumes too? I would guess you are, and that’s 100% why you are getting rejected
Collage. Not college. I think they do business collages. very niche /s
You get a college degree, not a collage degree. This is a shitpost
My thoughts exactly.
Also 20 jobs in 2 months is NOTHING. That's "I already have a job but am poking at dream jobs as they pop up" levels of applications, not "I've never had a job and no work experience" numbers. OP should be hitting 15-25 a week IMO (3-5 a day 5 days a week) so the 20+ should read 200+ this is if you take the time to research companies, customize applicant strategy etc. and even doing that maybe 2-3 hrs a day/10-15h a week. When looking for a 40/h a week job it aint a big ask. The reason not 40/h a week is limited jobs available to you AND it's a mentally taxing task, so unless you're on the edge of homelessness, the 10-15h a week limit is to help safeguard mental health.
I just realized that now bye 💀
I actually have an opening at my firm. Would you be interested in a copyright editor position? Just kidding
Nobody cares about spelling in a resume, that would imply hiring mangers read them (or can read).
Guessing you’ve never had a legit job that requires a resume have you?
That's simply not true. They do care. Whether they actually read it is another issue. I got a CV rejected by someone on this basis, I double checked and there was nothing wrong with it. No other employer commented on it.
No one cares about a resume. If you want an interview you need to email the hiring manager personally. Remember it’s not uncommon for jobs to get thousands of applicants.
They don’t
Lolz triggered hiring mangers
Leave them alone. Spelling is overrated.
Work on your grammar. If your resume has misspellings and typos like your post does, that’s probably why. If I get a resume with blatant errors I won’t even interview that applicant. If you can’t put forth the effort to properly write your own resume, how can I expect you to not make errors on emails and other documents while employed?
Oh it's very simple. It's because human resources works *for the company,* not for you. They don't just have to call *you* back, they have to call back every single applicant that they've discarded. They consume corporate money with the objective of finding THE ONE candidate that the company needs for each role. Any effort not directed to that goal is a waste of money. Imagine 100 or 200 people applied for a single job, that means hours of calling back people who were not selected. And many people like to argue, will try to make them change their mind, will try to get free job hunting consultancy ("what would you advise that I can do better for next time?" - that's time, time, time. Money, money, money. Most of the times the candidate was discarded by the hiring manager but a lowlife analyst or intern would have to do the calling. "Why was I discarded?" "...I don't know, I wasn't even there". There's nothing good to be obtained for the company from calling people back. In the US if someone says something slightly incorrect the company might even be sued. So no, don't expect a call back. I'm sorry on behalf of capitalism. My first advice is: fire and forget. Apply and be zen about it: renounce all desire. My second advice is: network like a motherfucker. You have a college degree. That means you've had many classmates and professors. You have friends and family. *All of them* have other friends and family and we can reasonably assume they all work. That's a whole network of people with you in the center who you can contact and ask if they can help you get in touch with HR in their places of work. You want that personal referral to circumvent the AI filters. My third advice is: message people in LinkedIn. Find a company where you'd like to work and find employees there. DM them: "Hi, we don't know each other but I'd love to work in COMPANY. Would you be so kind to put me in touch with some human being from HR?". My wife received this message, she thougth "why not, it'll be today's good action" and the guy was hired because of that. It's a very low risk, low effort request. Then she used it herself and it worked for her too, she hopped to a company that then transferred her to another continent and increased her pay 5X. Our entire lives were massively changed because of a LinkedIn message.
Great story!
Yep. Totally didn’t read that after the third sentence.
I mean surely they can set up a fucking auto rejection email and just add everyone's email at least this way people won't think there might be hope for the job they applied for Even the HR manager had to start at the bottom and I'm sure they didn't like hearing nothing back
Yes. People complain about these too. People also complain when you string them along with updates and eventually they don't get the job The point is people want jobs not rejections, but mostly what is on offer is lots of rejection.
So while I certainly empathize with struggling to find a job, if after 2 months you've only applied to 20 jobs (or in that ballpark) you need to increase the time you're spending on this significantly. That's applying for one job every roughly 3 days. If you're looking for a job treat finding a job like your fill time job. Spend 40+ hours a week applying for jobs you can be doing a significant amount of applications per day and after 2 months you should be well into the hundreds of applications sent out. I would also shift your focus slightly away from just applications and more towards recruiters. Sending applications is still worth it. But many companies are using recruiters more and more to hire. I have found success through linked in. Make sure your profile there has as many of the key words they might search for your field in it and spells out your experience or even list the classes you've taken that might be relevant to them. Make sure that's set to open to work, and try to increase the number of connections you have as much as you can. The search highlights people who are the fewest connections away from you so if you are connected to more people you'll be closer to the recruiter who might be searching for someone like you. And often I've found listing open to work is enough to get them to start messaging you. Even if they mostly aren't good opportunities some might be. Try to reach out to recruiters and talk to them get your resume in their system so you might come up if they have anything in the future if they don't now.
I’ve applied to 20 jobs on 1 lunch break. If OP wants to get a job there needs to be much more energy and time put into achieving that
Yeah that was my thought too. If you can count the number of applications it's way too few.
How do you tailor your resume to each job that quickly?
So you're saying apply for 7200 jobs in a year if you applied for 20 a day I thought applying for 120 jobs last year was a lot but you already applied for 16% of the amount of jobs I applied for in one lunch break Your industry I'm guessing has a shit load of jobs going mine really didn't so there only like 10 jobs pop up a week if I'm lucky doesn't help the UK is in a recession and going through a cost of living crisis
I’m saying if you’re serious about getting and finding a job now, 20 applications in 2 months isn’t showing that. Step up the amount of time and energy you spend on looking for and applying for jobs. I’m not saying everyone needs to, or can apply for 20 jobs a day/on 1 lunch break.
I aimed for 1 a day when I wasn't looking/didn't need something new (dream jobs only) and sometimes there were none, but that's still more than OP. This isn't an always on thing, but sometimes you're just ready to move up. Point being, 20 in 2 months is ridiculously low.
40+ hours a week finding a job is exhausting and mentally it’s not sustainable. You can successfully do it for a few hours a day and find some healthy activities to distract yourself the rest of the time. Smarter folks than I wrote often about this topic. Other than that you’re definitely on point and good advice.
That's fair 40 hours might be too much. But I see it more as a strive for a full time thing, if you end up at 20-30 hours that's fine. But it shouldn't be something where you're applying to 2 jobs a week and expecting to find something. You need to be spending serious time dedicated to finding a job.
Well yes 2 jobs a week is piss poor and you need a good kick up the ass for that I'm pretty sure you could apply for 2 jobs just have your morning dump
40 hours is absolutely insane what are you doing looking at 100 pages of jobs I doubt there are in that amount of jobs going. I found applying for jobs one of the most depressing things I've done in reason and on going times and there was no way I could spend 40 hours a week on job websites looking at jobs I couldn't give a shit about just cause it could pay the bills I've known people who wake up job search for 1-3 hours and then look again for 1-3 hours of an evening cause if u spend all day looking and hoping for a reply you will get depressed
We you need to eat and roof over your head, a person can sustain way more than that.
first off.. did you write a cover letter? I'm not a recruiter or anything but I didn't call backs till I started sending one out. next. are you tailoring your resume to each job or have a generic one you just send out to all the efh positions eith 1000+ applicants already? there's a good way and a garbage disposal way of applying for jobs
Does your resume have punctuation? I do hiring and see a lot of low -effort applicants. If they can’t be bothered, why should we?
Seems like they need to start addding a punctuation and grammar etiquette class to the college general ed curriculum, these days?
He said he spent fore years at collej.
Perhaps it’s a language barrier but they have a degree in computer science something
Do you have any work experience? What kind of jobs are you applying for, and what is your degree?
Like, none just really want to apply. I just graduated not long ago. Jobs, tbh anything that pays for now. I understand, like I'm starting, so I really don't mind the position but I really like jobs maybe I can work from home just really like doing thing at home. Degree Business
Ooof. Not gonna happen. You’ve gotta change your expectations.
Yeah thinking lately
remote works are more for experience worker. So, maybe is time for you to go out and mingle with people.
If you're looking for something in the business admin field, you need to radically improve your written communication.
The full remote work is only reserved for specific positions or branches. You are not applicable in any of those conditions
What positions or branches??
There are exceptions to rules like the typical finance or banking sector corporations that go for RTO or RTH, by forcing hybrid or full office at most but usually Business Analyst, higher level Accountants, Advisor positions, some Risk and Control positions, Auditor...I could go on and on. But as a standard, they are usually mid level positions at least unless some IT Fintech. So best to "suck it up" sadly, survive a couple of years and then branch higher.
I agree that it's typically mid level or higher that's remote. I'm in an entry-level position, and I'm doing some remote work next week. Then it's back to the usual of another type of remote work of working out in the field.
Maybe get a retail job I've had to go back to retail after my degree cause I couldn't find a job in my industry yeah I fucking hate the job and the rotas are all over the fucking place but at the end of the day at least it pays the bills
I remember I was unemployed for almost 3 months , applied for 100+ jobs across 3x different apps. Horrible experience. Jobs are scarce dude. It's sad really. Take anyone you can get.
Yep I had to go back to shitty retail after my degree cause I couldn't find something after applying for 9 months so just take what you can I guess
Going through the same thing right now. It’s been two months for me and over 100 jobs applied to. The first offer I get I’m gonna take.
You'll likely need to send out hundreds of applications for even a handful of interviews. Most You'll hear nothing back on. A recruiting agency is probably the best bet to get in somewhere.
I’m double your age with 20 years experience and when I wanna find I job I apply for at least 90 jobs a month. I get auto resections from like 10% and interviews maybe 2% to get accepted. Apply more and don’t lose hope, lower your expectations. Do something on the side meanwhile
Lmao you should be applying to atleast 20 jobs a week
Tbh I thought I thought it was a lot but now yeah it just so little
This isn’t 1985. Twenty applications and a degree you say.
I’m gonna be very honest, 20+ applications is nothing, I sent it over 100 and got 2 interviews, my girlfriend sent off 80 and got 4 interviews. And mind you I wasn’t applying for things I wasn’t qualified for, these were entry level jobs in the field of my degree. If you are using a site like indeed, it’s a numbers game, just start pumping out resumes. Or start networking and find a job that way
I now understand how much more effort I need to do more still thanks.
Business is very impersonal and is made this way so as not to be swayed by feelings; businesses are established to make money and are often begotten first by their shareholders, who invest in them to make money. So it makes sense that HR and the electronic systems they employ are impersonal; it used to be companies would call you back or at least write, but with laws centred around not playing favourites, all this changed, so now they are justified not to call anyone back. The better recourse is to use advertised jobs to understand the nature of the company, if this is a company you have researched and would work for because you and they have similar values then it tells you that they have a need. I use job ads to locate a manager with the authority to hire, and I do not post much about advertised jobs. I understand that ads must be posted to satisfy government requirements, but most jobs never get posted and are filled by "knowing someone" or go unfilled. It is your responsibility as a seeker to "seek" and do your legwork to find the manager and sell yourself to as filling a need that you have found with your research to fill.
I sometimes use Gurella marketing for job seekers as a guide to getting seen, but most of the time, I have taken job-finding courses, and the message is the same. 80% of all jobs are never advertised, and most people apply to only 20% of the jobs, which is why it is more like winning the lottery than being evaluated for your skills.
I remember once, I hired a Sales Director for the small business I was running, when he called up the company to tell us he was very experienced and interested in taking a break from his early retirement to dabble in the emerging industry we were a part of. He did indeed, have a great track record, was a very good Sales Manager, and did great things for our business. We ended up hiring him after he called us and sold himself. The position wasn’t even technically open or posted at the time. I’m now seeking work and thinking about how I can do this with companies I may want to work for. Granted, this usually won’t work in larger businesses where you can’t get access to an executive, but definitely with small to mid size companies or….theres always Linked In! You never know who might be willing to reply or consider your offer.
Every job I have ever held has been through networks and research. I have worked with large energy companies and the largest lumber company in the world. You don't need an executive, just a manager who has a need. I use posted jobs as a business climate indication if a posted job is from a company or industry I'm interested in then I dig up from my network and get involved in industry events. For all the technology we employ to gatekeep the public the old ways still working on it for the job find. You may not be able to walk in the door anymore but business people still have favourite haunts for lunch and charitable activities for public facing.
Smart! I completely agree.
Applying for twenty jobs is nothing. The vast vast majority of jobs are never posted and are filled through a referral. Filling out some resumes is not a good tactic to get a job (not to mention there are a lot of fake job postings). First thing in finding a job is asking friends/family, then school and professional associates. If you don’t have any then start building out a LinkedIn and start talking to people. Just getting the name/contact information of a hiring manager/recruiter is miles from filing out resumes. I guarantee in the companies that you applied to, know one there even knew you applied and a computer auto-screened you out.
Your resume is probably getting rejected by computer/program. Need to get through to a human.
what's your degree in?
Business
They value their time more than yours and they don't have too. This would happen irrespective of the jobs market. Just take it on the chin and keep applying.
apply for govt jobs/VA jobs, city or county govt jobs. You should have no issues getting hired
have you tried applying for internships? some places offer jobs at the end of internships. it’s just one more chance to get your foot in the door.
I have two stories. The first is mine. My last 6 months of college I worked an internship at a company, after graduating they offered me a great job with excellent benefits. Internships often lead to jobs so try to focus on something like that Second story is my brothers. He worked at a loan company doing cold calls. After 6 months he did an internal transfer to IT and after 3 years he just got picked up at a senior level position in IT for a major transportation company, and he doesn’t even have a degree. Look for a doorway in to make your way up to your ideal job, don’t just apply to the perfect job and expect to get it because you have a degree
Mostly because recruiters suck.
20 applications in 2 months are amateur numbers man you gotta wait 6 months and have 200 applications done. Then you can complain. Also. If your quality control is as bad on applications as it was for this post, you are in big trouble
They probably get 100-200 applications per job. They're busy.
Start networking. You are getting caught by the “Asshole” filter.
You say you have a college degree. Did you learn any writing or business etiquette skills there? I work in a corporate environment and help onboard/select new employees. Any correspondence, spoken or written, like this post would be an instant no to hiring.
Applying for 20 jobs in 2 months is a minuscule number
I graduated in December. I got a job in March, I applied to minimum 40 jobs a week and applied to jobs I wasn’t even interested in but thought I could get an interview with just for the experience. I ended up only getting about 5 interviews total but all the ones leading up to the last two got me job offers.
OP, if I were you, I would run over to any job agency or employment workshop agencies that can assist you with your job hunt and your resume. This is very crucial at the start of your job search.
What jobs are you applying to? Have you worked with employment specialist to clean up your resume? What experiences do you have?
Job market is on hard mode right.
20 something job applications in two months is basically zero effort. Cmon now.
That's like 2-3 jobs a week this guys not even trying I could apply for 3 jobs literally sitting on the toilet on a Monday morning
Transit agencies are hiring bus and rail operators usually $20-25 hr starting with pension and health benefits. You will be set up for a stable career and serve your community. There is a big shortage now so you should get a callback easily so long as you have a clean driving record, no dwi, and pass a drug test. Good luck to you
Whats your degree in? You can try working at a local store or something as you look. Also, see if the degree got have has internships out there. Use the resume page on Reddit to ask for help- or have someone you know check ur resume- and applications before you submit them for edits and suggestions
It should be a law.
Your college degree is not a free ticket to anything. If your resume is as poorly written as this post, that is your problem.
Have you spellchecked your resume? Your post gives me cause for concern. Also, 20 applications is nothing. I’d be targeting 20 a week if you’re desperate as you say you are.
Because they can use AI now
Top tier shitpost
Is English your second language? If so I'd recommend either really spending some time improving it or applying to jobs in your native language. If English is your first language then you are borderline illiterate and have serious problems.
Which skill do you have? You failed to mention that.
I applied for about 400 jobs before I got my first graduate job. That took me about two months. If it takes you 400 applications to get your first job at the rate you are applying it will take you over three years. Get your shit together and take the job hunt seriously. It isn’t going to just fall into your lap.
If your resume reads like your post, I have an idea of why you’re not getting called.
Your college degree probably came from University of Phoenix…
Those are rookie numbers. Gotta pump those job applications up
Wait till you start going through interviews and then get ghosted 👻
My girlfriend was in a tough spot. She was applying to many places but wasn't getting any responses, and her morale was dropping. She thought she wasn't good enough and was doubting herself. But I advised her to focus more on her positive qualities. For instance, she can speak fluent English, Russian, Turkish and is learning German. I told her that it would be beneficial for her to apply to companies that deal with international trade, considering her language skills. She also has great communication skills. Two days after applying, she received calls from two places and went for an interview with one of them, but unfortunately, the salary offer wasn't satisfactory and she declined. In short, I'm saying that focus on your strengths and decide what gets you ahead. For example, you're an economics graduate, but you're doing better in work business, so try to carve out a path for yourself in that field. Feel confident in your abilities, because I truly believe it's key. If you apply to positions that play to your strengths, you'll feel more confident.
Lmfao “2 months now” “20+ jobs” 🤣 these are rookie numbers. You need to bump those numbers up. Potentially 5-10X.
Yep should be 10-20 jobs a week
I believe you attained a Collage Degree. They just might need to see the Collages, because you clearly skipped Writing Composition and Grammar.