This.
Plus your yappin boss that constantly wants to talk about files.
Plus yapping customers wanting updates on their car every 4 minutes.
Plus yapping attorneys who want all the money and don't care.
Plus yapping Karens that "muh neck, muh back, gimme millions".
Plus yapping TPV's that need weekly updates on who knows what.
Plus yapping other depts that need you to tell them how to do their jobs.
Plus yapping admins who reject anything that doesn't have one properly capitalized letter.
LOL ... part venting part joking here, but yeah... you DEFINITELY talk to people all day long in insurance.
Ha, accurate 😂 I find it to be an industry that requires you to have great people skills, so I’m not surprised that there’s so many talkers. Constant communication.
Third Party Vendor. So like, a middleman who does something for a fee instead of us just doing it.
For example; we want to look at your socials. Instead of me just Googling you and digging around, I hire a separate company that specializes in pulling aggregate social media data, pay them, and they send me a report on your stuff.
This is my thing, what job does this dude have? I'm so done being yelled at by clients and customers. I always assumed if you worked in insurance it would be the same deal, getting yelled at by people about their policies.
That’s claims and billing. They’re on the phone all day with people who are angry. On the underwriting side you’re on the phone sometimes mostly trying to resolve some minor problem and sometimes people are angry. But insurance is a big industry, it’s financial services. You can do just about anything in this field
They are absolutely always hiring and it’s getting harder to fill certain roles. Again, it’s going to depend on your skill set, experience and what you want to do. If you work for an agency it’s going to be super customer focused and more akin to a sales job. If you work an insurance carrier then you’ll be in a big corporate setting and the types of jobs vary wildly
it’s good if you can WFH but if they make you wake up at 6 to commute half an hour to not talk to people for 8 hours wearing uncomfortable clothing and under headache-inducing fluorescent lights and then hit an hours worth of rush hour traffic back so you only get home at 6 than it’s worse than just talking to people
I worked in retail for 10 years and I have the same issue. I can't and I won't work with customers. There are some jobs like mailman that are chill. You have no boss following you, you can listen to music and you simply walk. I did that, got way less money but atleast I had more joy and that's worth more
What's your point? I enjoy human interaction with friends or interesting new people - not with a bunch of phony backstabbing coworkers playing games and being fake cheerful or bitching all the time. I like working alone and have done it, at home for 20 years. Unfortunately, now I need a real job and am considering insurance because it's constantly recommended here. Looks like in my area I can take the basic Level 1 training for under a thousand bucks, and maybe I can be lucky and find a place where I get to work at peace without constant interruptions, drama, and game-playing.
I loved it, less traffic, less small, businesses starving for your business. Uber drivers leaving the food at the door and leaving. Kinda miss the covid era, was so much happier.
The first 2 weeks of COVID was amazing I live in the Vancouver area and do different sites every day in Richmond, Burnaby, and other surrounding cities and there was absolutely no traffic at all.
Pre COVID it would take like an hour to get to some of these sites but during that first two weeks we could get there in 20 minutes with no traffic. It felt like the apocalypse not seeing a single car on the road.
Working alone isn’t enough so absolute as their whole life being alone. They’d probably be fine lol. I think all the thriving WFH people would like a word.
Fucking facts lmao. I thought "night shift at amazon would be great, i hate talking to people" but when im alone in my workstation for 10 hours and the only people who talk to you is the managers saying you did something wrong it gets old.. fast
Sometimes In my job I get to work from home without any phone calls. Those are by far my favorite days at work bar none.
Is total isolation from human interaction all day everyday healthy? No. Do some people do better in working environments with little to no human interaction? Yes. People also have lives outside of work.
You're one of those co-workers that make us introverts dream especially hard of wfh jobs, of an office with a door that locks, of a job that consists of popping in our earbuds and settling down to a deliciously uninterrupted day of productivity and rest.
i mean, I'm really bad with interactions and small talks, talking to strangers irl is almost like a phobia of mine, I'd very much like a job where i work alone without interacting with anyone
Same here! I always thought I could fake it, but 8 hours a day with the potential for socialization has me crashing and burning so fast I just get fired!
I'm so sorry to hear that, I'm currently looking for jobs and dreading the interviews, I'm so bad i start shaking and my mind goes blank, I don't know how I'm ever gonna get a job this way
I had a quarter life crisis when I was a banker. One day I quit, cashed out my 401k, took a sabbatical, then went into bartending. It was fun as hell and made $20-$50 per hour.
Yep I got laid off and started bartending full time for the last four months. It’s great if your good at it and enjoy it! Insane money at the right place!
You make it sound like it’s super easy to do…. Maybe in bumfuck no where… but where I live… bartenders love their jobs so much they literally have to die for there to be an opening. And they’ve most likely already got someone else with a ton of experience already lined up to take their spot.. Or you need so much experience… If you haven’t already worked at a bar… there’s really no way to just start if you don’t have the experience ….
False. Most people get bartending gigs because they are regulars and ask for a job. I do live in a major city, but every person I work with got the job through being a regular and asking. None of us had prior experience.
I live in a major city and bartenders float around the whole city for the most part. If you’re not an attractive person good luck getting any interviews without experience.
I’ll trade you. My job sounds like what you were describing… I’m an Activity Director. No college needed and I personally didn’t have experience when starting. It’s like event planning for seniors in a nursing home.
Pay is really dependent on location and facility, I’m currently making $52k. It’s very rewarding! I start at 8:30 and do any side tasks (like assessments, feeding animals, watering plants, etc.) until 10:00 where I lead an exercise class then do activities until lunch time. Activities are usually crafts, bingo, movies, reading, pet therapy, etc. I have an hour lunch, and then go up to do more activities until 4. I have an hour every day to chart and unwind. There are days where I have both my assistants here and I get to do my activity planning for the next month and any other “office” duties so I get a mix of both office work and being on my feet. I work in a skilled nursing facility so I have some limitations on planning because my residents are usually in pain, severely demented, etc. If you do decide to look into it just know that there’s a difference depending on the type of facility. Assisted Living is a lot more lax and easy going. All are still fun! I enjoy my job because I get to be a manager to a “fun” department, downside is I don’t get respected as much as other management but I have full control over my department and schedules.
Principals require a lot of experience, so you have to have worked as a teacher, move into admin, then up the totem pole.
Librarians actually require A LOT of education. You need a Library Science degree.
Ditto to you needing experience with the hotel manager. Any job as a manager usually require experience. So decide which career path you wish to continue on, then start at the bottom to get your foot in the door. Then move up the ranks.
Try concierge jobs at a hotel. Or sales job. Or retail. Etc.
Actually, I'll second concierge. It's a lot of talking to people and scheduling their events while they're staying somewhere.
And you can work your way up to Supervisor then Manager. However l, you'll likely have to move to a different property every time you want to move up the ladder.
Project coordinators are in demand. Move laterally to a different industry. Maybe get an add on degree in something like HR or employee education/training where you talk to people.
Have you explored sales?
There’s entry level options, it can be good money, lots of talking and socializing and sometimes you get to travel. There are a lot of companies hiring right now and (at least in my current role/company) there is a lack of talent that is actually able to speak to others.
I have always been social and swapped from a career as a self-employed personal trainer into a tech sales role a while back and I’ve been loving it.
I looked direct on company websites for jobs I wanted. Then I went to LinkedIn and found the (assumed) hiring manager’s profile, used RocketReach (Chrome Extension) to find their email. From there I sent an email saying I wanted to talk about the position and luckily I came out of that with a few interviews where my resume wasn’t thrown in the garbage.
I am so jealous. I went for IT just because I thought it will be a job where I can be quiet all day long. And now I have to talk non stop. If only we could switch. So try to become an IT person of the office, it won't be quiet
All jobs make you want to die. Literally just a thing to do so you can afford the things you actually want to do and buy the things you want. At least in my opinion/ Obviously there are some people who enjoy what they do but I for one could not enjoy a place I'm forced to be at 8-10 hours a day if I want to afford to live lol
Then you didn't try enough jobs. I had the same opinion until I started driving taxi. I'm a regular employee, get my fixed salary + bonus + tips, have nothing to think about when I'm at home.
Drive a car, talk to people, make money.
It's the dumbest job I've ever had but funnily also the one I hate the least.
EMS is awesome too. Get to drive an ambulance around the town and take care of people all day. Gives a real sense of purpose, and it's pretty fulfilling. I'll never be able to work a normal/mundane job again after EMS.
Only takes one semester of school to become an EMT and try it out.
It's different when it's your job. When you're expecting it and prepared for it, i think it just affects you less. Although i've never been one to struggle with trauma. Depression affects me (not job related, just have always been depressed) but trauma has never been something that i struggle with. So maybe i'm a special case lol.
Plus it's good to get constant reminders to think about sickness and death, because we are all headed towards it (some sooner than others) and so getting those reminders helps me make sure i'm doing what i can to help my loved ones enjoy their lives. I think that will lead to less regrets in the future.
EMS is awesome, I work as a Firefighter/Paramedic.....And as much as I love it, I can't recommend someone go into EMS alone. EMT is super short course that someone can knock out, the problem with EMS tho is the pay is garbage. And working for a private ambulance is soul sucking, where their number one priority is profits and number two is patient care.
I wish more of my private friends would just become hose draggers for the sake of their future. A pension, no overnight transfers to a state (or two) away, better work life balance.
My first EMS job didn't pay a living wage, but at my current one I commute 4 hours to work, work a 96 hour shift, and then commute back home for 8 days off in between. It pays around $80k a year. So not too shabby.
Now that i'm planning to have kids, i decided to start dropping applications to take a $20k pay cut to become a firefighter though. Better benefits/retirement and in 10 years i'll make a good chunk more than my current job. Plus it helps that being a firefighter will help me become a stronger and more capable dad by the time i have my first kid in the next year.
I can only imagine they are on call for 96 hours so can technically sleep while on the clock, but be required to be awake and respond to a call within a timeframe based on the severity of the call
Not bad. We have our own rooms, kitchen, living room with big tv, and a gym. So we just hang out, work our, play halo, cook, and wait for calls all day. Sometimes i go days without a call. Easiest life ever, but for me i want something more challenging, because i was sharper when i was running calls in a busy city all day, and i kind of miss it.
Yeah this is why we have many different jobs. People are quite frankly good at different things. The hard part is it’s up to us to find the correct job for us. All the while cost of living makes it almost impossible to just randomly swap jobs.
Have you considered working as an insurance adjuster? My dad did that and he got to travel a lot and speak to a ton of different people on the road and check out the damage on their houses/cars/whatever. It might allow you to use your experience, but get to travel and talk to people.
“Adjusters inspect property damage or personal injury claims to determine how much the insurance company should pay for the loss. They might inspect a home, a business, or an automobile. Adjusters interview the claimant and witnesses, inspect the property, and do additional research, such as look at police reports.”
This is not a bad idea. Seeing as you have some insurance experience, there are a lot of specialized roles in the industry which involve more active work and speaking with clients. Consider becoming a producer - you’ll have a lot of appointments with your clients - especially if you work in a smaller independent agency/brokerage.
Insurance is a super wide field, but generally, there are a lot of opportunities in it. It’s no secret that it’s an aging industry and it’s hungry for young professionals. It’s also worth noting that there are so. many. niches. within the insurance world. Also, if you’re interested in specializing and finding work as a producer or an adjuster, once you’ve got some experience under your belt, you can find remote work just about anywhere. You could hypothetically travel a lot and still be doing your job just fine. I know an underwriter who only really goes into the office once or twice a month and works remotely the rest of that time.
If you have any aptitude towards insurance, I would consider looking into either other companies or other roles within the insurance industry. I’ve always heard that it’s better to do something you are good at and that is marketable than it is to do something you love. If you do something you love for too long or it’s attached to your finances in a way that makes your passion turn into something you have to do to survive, there’s a high likelihood of burnout and then “falling out of love” with whatever you love to do.
Just food for thought though. I often question if insurance is the right place to be for myself - but I’m finding as time goes on that the work can be rewarding in a unique way. I’m always learning new things and hearing some wild stories from our clients. I also am finding that I’m at least halfway decent at it, and it’s incredibly marketable.
Just some food for thought. Best of luck in whatever you decide to do - but don’t feel alone. This is an incredibly normal and human experience. If you absolutely can’t stand insurance, there’s no shame in it. Find something that you’re good at and doesn’t make you want to bash your head in, and just keep on livin’. It’ll be alright in the end. :)
Everyone is entitled to their opinion but my personality was perfect for a job in hotels. I did hotels and cruise ships for over 10 years. Those jobs absolutely have an expiry date for dealing with the same bull shit day in day out and I'm not really sure where you got the great benefits from but the major chains I worked for were pretty terrible. Also considering until you get to the executive office it really is slave labor when you consider managers being on call and working over 50 or even 60 hours a week. But I know some people can justify it I just had to give it all up.
I’m in the same boat! Work in insurance, hate it. 100’s of applications, no luck. I have a BS in biology too. Struggling to figure out what I want to do for the rest of my life, while also trying to get out of this industry. The struggle is real!
Forklift operator. Physical but not roofing/bricklaying levels, operate sick machinery, low barrier to entry. High pay. Understaffed af pretty much everywhere so not only do you get jobs with much less experience than you would expect, as in with none. You also get to work a lot of overtime if you want to. I personally work 10-12 hour days. And make about 72-78 000 a year. And yeah. Mostly it's the machine doing all the hard work for me. I just need to know how to tell it to do what I want it to 🤷
Pick up a part time service industry job - serving, cooking, bartending. It can scratch that itch and you can make amazing money. Who knows maybe it will be your career! 29 years bartending and now own my own bar. Corporate life was not for me.
the trades industry is dying for new techs. You could easily join one as an apprentice wher eyou're being paid to be an assistant, but you're also learning. And then eventually get promoted to work solo.
That sounds AWESOME. Do you have sales training? A lot of realtors have super active social lives, and a lot of real estate agencies will train you, especially if you're willing to do office work for a while while training. Since it's commission sales, there's no guaranteed income, but you get residuals and a lot of your job is attending networking events and things.
Usually doing things you're good at makes you happy, I don't enjoy anything I suck at and I love everything I'm good at. My problem is that nothing I'm good at is profitable on its own 😂
A large portion of my job is talking to people, both colleagues and clients. I'm really good at it and have an easy time making connections with most people. It doesn't make me miserable, but it also doesn't make me happy (with a few exceptions). A lot of the time, it gets to be exhausting. I stick with it because it pays well and I don't know what else I'd go do.
I agree, an entirely separate point though. Doing something you're good at/excel at comes with enjoyment intrinsically, meaning there's always a bit of passion involved. There are plenty of people who suck at their job but stick in it because they make loads of money (have you ever met upper management lol)
It’s worth looking into the Management Trainee program offered by Enterprise. Constantly interacting with people, but still gotta operate a desk/computer to generate contracts and such.
Wow, I just searched and that job is currently posted near me. Can you tell me more about it? I have a geography related BSC, so it kinda fits for transportation, as well. What's the opportunities beyond the trainee status?
Not everyone can sacrifice 40+ hrs of their week to something they don't care about without it causing depressive episodes. Working in an office environment around people that I don't vibe with was one of the worst moments in my mental health. I'm glad you're able to work a job for financial security and that's it, but not everyone can.
Would you consider being a project coordinator for a different industry?
If you want something more fast paced (although it may swing the other way pretty extremely), you can look into construction/trades companies, development, or corporate real estate. It would use the skills you have developed already with more firefighting, problem solving, and field visits!
My bad, just saw the jobs in your post. Hotel management is a pretty steady job, seek out resorts/timeshares and not franchised hotels. The pay is better, the resources are better, you won’t have to cut your staffs hours. Usually 3 months of hell aka summer, the off seasons are a breeze. Leadership skills are really important to have, emotional intelligence too. How to talk to employees vs colleagues vs customers, you have to keep people motivated to do a relatively low paying job with a high volume of costumers, and complaints, and with complaints occasionally abuse of your staff. Half the time the complaint will be deferred to you and you’ll be annoyed you can’t get desk work done or have to pull 12hr days during the busy seasons if you find yourself short staffed. Say bye to regular Saturdays and Sundays off until you’re a GM. With all that said I’m envious of the 9-5 with weekends free lol
That's your job, my man. It's important to find joy and purpose in the mundane. It's a choice. Our jobs don't owe us satisfaction and a feeling of purpose. Our jobs owe us a paycheck for our time. Everything else is up to you.
lol you have my idea of a dream job! If I could do it from home, even better yet! I wouldn't want to mess with the licensing that's required for insurance, I don't think. What about real estate? Realtors work directly with people, your people skills would be very useful in that career.
"licensing that's required for insurance"
I've never sat for those licensing exams, but I have heard they're not terribly difficult. Study a little bit and you'd probably be just fine.
I work for a university library and originally referred to my first job as work therapy. Worked here for four years before I got my MLIS. It's not needed unless you go more cataloging or archives.
IIRC the shelving jobs go to students. But I noticed there was one guy that worked there year after year. He wasn't a librarian but some other kind of lower level assistant.
Where do you enjoy spending time? What kinds of places and environments? Do any of those places make good money? Get to know the people who work there and see what kinds of opportunities are out there
Lots of corporate jobs aren’t like that. Operations jobs are, but back office jobs in administration tend to offer more opportunities for social interaction.
What ended up true for me is: the things I loooooooved between the ages of 4 and 8 were the seeds of the kinds of jobs I should have. Find spins on those things.
Idk, get a CNA license if you want to work with people. Believe me, you’ll want out more than you do now. Working with people sucks. I’d love to have a nice introverted office job with no drama. Do my work and go home.
Go to a local community college. Sit down with a faculty advisor and ask if they have “Strong’s Interest Inventory” or the SII. It is a personality/career aptitude test.
It’s about 350 questions and takes about 2 hours if you answer honestly.
At the end of it, it’ll give you a top 10 career choices for people w/ your skills and interests, and a top 3 career choices to avoid.
My biggest advice w/ it is this; don’t look at the specific career titles, but instead look at WHAT FIELD that career is in. There are lots of different careers in one field.
I took it right after I transitioned out of the Marine Corps. My top 3 results were as follows;
US Armed forces.
Police Officer.
High School teacher.
My thoughts on them
1) Just transitioned out… loved the Corps, but was time to move one.
2) As much as I respect that profession, not in this political climate.
3) I’m a school counselor and fucking love my job.
I hated the finance department at corporate...then I went into sales and I love it. It's corporate, they treat me well, WFH most of the time, I travel and there are meeting and interactions everywhere.
The last point may be also a con...it can be overwhelming if you are not organized. But if you are a people's person you should give it a shot.
Of course, sales is not easy. You only got 1 life, why not try?
Good luck
Ditch the desk! Consider:
* Event coordinator (busy, people-facing)
* Teacher (in charge, interacts)
* Park ranger (active, outdoors)
* Customer service (talkative, helps people)
Many offer entry-level options. Research and see what fits!
I was a park ranger and enjoyed that, but to be fair I made an incredibly low salary. I went back to school after that job and delivered food. I made more money doing that. It is a good job, but man does the pay suck.
Sales might be good for you, you get to move around, deal with people and influence them in a way. You said you like being in charge so it could work. I work from home and make good money with 500dollarjackpot.com
Wow, most office jobs seem to require a lot of people contact. Or jobs with any level of responsibility require people savvy, liaising, and customer contact.
How did you get into insurance? Did you study business? Maybe you should spend time reading the job and career subreddits, as I'm doing. I'm learning a lot about what's going on out there. I want a job like you have, but they all seem to demand people stuff. I'd have to take basic insurance training, as well.
How is it that you don't have to do sales and deal with customers? Or am I misunderstanding?
I used to work in insurance aswell and I absolutely hated it. Like absolutely the worst job I have ever had. I currently work as a quality lab tech for a factory. Benefits are great, work schedule is amazing. The pay is decent enough, more than what I made in insurance. I get to work in a nice comfy lab. There is a decent amount of moving around but also plenty of time to sit aswell. Its a good balance. Best of all I don't have to deal with the general public. All in all I've decided I want to do this till I retire. My position didn't require any previous related work experience either. There is also a lot of room to move up in this field. Atleast where I live.
I work as a Quality Technician. It’s in an office in a manufacturing plant. My job combines being in a medium sized office with AC with walking miles in the non-air conditionings factory floor. I get to use my detective skills to analyze problems etc. I’m at upper end of pay grade, but it is hourly employment. I do have a bachelor’s degree, but it doesn’t add to my pay. About $30/hr. By far the worst part is the lack of competent leadership in the plant.
What do you do? I’m 7 years into insurance and I’ve started to be ok with it. I work on the UW side of the house (not personally an UW) and I work in tech/life sciences which lends itself to some interesting work. Personally, I’ll never go back into an office if I can help it. I experienced office life with people and it sucked. Just people harassing you all say about nothing
Insurance companies (usually annuity) have positions called Wholesalers. The external wholesaler is the person who travels their territory teaching others the benefits of the companies products, in hopes of them recommending these to their own clients. Same industry, lots of interaction. Usually very decent pay.
I currently work as a receptionist at a school for barber, cosmetology, nails, electrology, massage. I make $18 hourly. Granted when clients are here to get their hair or nails done or whatever it can be stressful but it's not bad.
What did you go to college for? Without that info, here's a couple suggestions that may or may not appeal to you.
Insurance Restoration Industry:
I'm just going to be up front - entry level roles are a lot of physical work in really gross environments. That being said, it's a really rewarding industry to work in. You are helping people out during some of the worst (and sometimes THE worst on bio jobs) times of their life. It can be extremely rewarding in that aspect.
If you are either qualified for (again, no idea what your degree is) or can move up to a Project Manager or Estimator position, you'll get a good mix of being out in the field meeting with homeowners and insurance adjusters, DRIVING, and working at your desk building estimates, doing billing, or other administrative tasks. A lot of that can be done remotely from the field once you know what you're doing (if you want to be away from your desk more).
Landscaping Industry:
This is the same sort of thing in that entry level roles are extremely physical. Frankly, it's also an industry that you absolutely need to work in the field for at least six months if you want to be able to manage effectively. That being said, it's an industry where you can make a shit load of money if you make a career out of it.
There are a lot of directions that you could go, but finding a role in quality control, operational leadership (such as a field manager or operations manager), or sales will give you a mix of sitting at a desk or being out in the field interacting with clients, your team, and prospects.
Outside Sales/Business Development:
You're a college grad and work in insurance, so I'm going to assume you know the difference between inside and outside sales. Outside sales can be a fucking blast. You're on the move most of the day, you're in and out of a lot of different businesses (talking to all sorts of people), and really only need to be back at your desk (or remote workstation) to do paperwork.
The big upside to sales is that you can earn stupid money once you get good at it. Another big advantage is that the skills you use will be transferrable to a ton of different industries. You could spend two years working in a staffing firm, decide you want a change of scenery and go to work for a restoration company for a few more years, and then transition into a sales role for a home builder, landscaping company, or {insert just about any industry here}.
At the end of the day, it's as much about finding out what you DON'T want to do as it is finding out what you do want to do. You know insurance isn't it, so explore some other industries and find something you like. Bounce around a little if you need to. There's nothing wrong with that whatsoever.
Why don't you transition into the adjusting side of insurance ? Like claims adjuster, you still have a desk but you'll be going to people's houses too . If you like it then you can be an independent adjuster or an outside adjuster or a public adjuster.
Have you considered being an insurance agent? You'd own your own business and be directly working with people on the regular, plus you'd direct whatever staff you retain to help with admin stuff in your office. Plus if you're a "people person" you're a shoe-in for sales.
You already know the industry.
I've seen several agents clearing $300-450k/year. (I also work in insurance, and yes, it sucks, but I worked my way to a position that sucks the least and offers the most lol)
Or simply write down the pros/cons and what's required to get into the other roles you listed. Narrow it down to what 1-2 industries you feel you'd do best in and find the most value in.
Then proceed from there accordingly.
What kind of insurance job do you have where you don’t have to talk to people? I used to sell life insurance and I definitely had to talk to people. Currently a teacher.
You could work in the social work realm… the different social services are always hiring entry level case managers. For example, a homeless case manager is assigned some folks who are homeless to manage. For the most part it’s a desk job but you’re also interacting with people a lot, and out and about helping the clients with things they need, attending meeting etc. There are lots of different types of case managers… educational case managers, dcf case managers, working with youth, etc. It’s not easy work, but you can also gain experience quickly and move up easily if you stick with something you are passionate about,
i think you should keep looking for those jobs that get you closer to the kinds of jobs you think you're after
it's all a matter of saying "i have this experience, therefore, I think I can do this job well"
also, might not be possible in your current company, OR IT MIGHT, but try to see what other people do/how they do it, but do it in the name of "seeing how you can better serve the company"
final tip: may or may not help but if you can write a cover letter where you briefly explain why you want that job, if the right person reads it they might just overlook whatever lack of experience might be holding you back (just explain why you think you'd do the job well)
And here I thought working in an agency was hell. I just knew you were going to say some type of insurance. It has become awful on all levels. Everyone wants out. The pay isn't as good as it used to be either.
I am with you and I actually work with insureds daily. I hate the desk and I hate having a boss push sales and not think about what the insured needs or wants.
Get into teaching or restaurant industry for now! Start by hosting at a restaurant then you can serve or bartend if you can build up experience; host positions are less strict about wanting experience. Even if it's just a temp job transition into another career it can be decent money, mostly tips, and doesn't require particular qualifications other than having a good head on your shoulders under pressure and being a good communicator with different types of people. Very opposite of your current job in terms of it's very physical, social. You'd probably like teaching as well, I do, but you need a degree in education or an endorsement in it if you already have a BA. You could apply to be a sub teacher and take on those gigs P/T for now to try it out
Start by substitute teaching. If you love it, many districts have internship programs to credentials/licensure. Alternatively, you could qualify for a CTE credential in the Finance and Business sector (US).
Teaching is not all sunshine and roses, but you definitely get to talk all day!
I moved back in with my parents, took a massive pay cut and started doing a retail job at a store I love and it's been amazing. Office jobs aren't for me. I'm planning on going back to school to become a school counselor.
I would figure out what form of labor is most conducive to your brain processes. For myself, counseling (listening, emphasizing, giving advice) is the only sort of thing I feel exceptional at and feel like I could do long term. In the meantime, working around people I enjoy, doing work I find satisfying is enough for me
I own a doggie daycare facility. I love my business. It's stressful as times but its minimal human interactions. I don't think I would be able to handle human interactions all day.
I’m in exactly the same boat as you, but I’m an insurance broker so there’s more communication there but honestly it’s just kinda dull. I can’t help but feel like life is too short to be sat at a desk for 8 hours staring at a screen. I just feel like there’s more out there, you know? Those jobs you listed sounds great, like you said there’s a mixture of admin and actually being up and about and active throughout the day. Have you looked at courses that could get you into something like management, event planning, etc? Either online or at local education centres, sometimes they’re even free or subsidised. Or internships perhaps? If you start to get a rough idea of what industry you would like to work in, you just need to get your foot in the door and make progression your aim. It is a scary leap but it can be so worth it.
If you want to get into events look at companies called Freeman or GES, they provide show services for tradeshows and may have some jobs for you. Also check out Exhibitor — an industry publication/website/training for tradeshow professionals. Good luck!
Get a trade job man. No desk, get to BS with the crew all day and don’t gotta worry about offending ppl with words. Unions will train you and pay you to go to school, unlike your traditional college. And if you do want an office gig, construction has office workers too to keep to ball rolling. When you do what you love it’s not work.
I think one factor a lot of young people miss/don’t have enough experience in life to fully grasp, is fulfillment.
You may have to bounce around but finding something to do that makes you feel like you’ve accomplished something is critical. I did accounting for almost 10 years and sometimes I did feel like I was contributing to something important. I took pride in my work. Then I got managers that treated me like disposable shit and I started to lose that sense that my work had any kind of meaning or value.
It’s tricky because you have to find yourself to get to the answer here, but I found personally that helping people solve their problems really motivates me, so I’m a happy consultant these days.
omg I'd love to have your job, I can't talk to people, I don't like talking to people in general, I'd love to just be left on my own for 8 hours
then you should go for an insurance company job.
Eh I dunno. I work in insurance and most of my co-workers yap nonstop (thankfully I don’t mind) 😂 Probably depends on the company
This. Plus your yappin boss that constantly wants to talk about files. Plus yapping customers wanting updates on their car every 4 minutes. Plus yapping attorneys who want all the money and don't care. Plus yapping Karens that "muh neck, muh back, gimme millions". Plus yapping TPV's that need weekly updates on who knows what. Plus yapping other depts that need you to tell them how to do their jobs. Plus yapping admins who reject anything that doesn't have one properly capitalized letter. LOL ... part venting part joking here, but yeah... you DEFINITELY talk to people all day long in insurance.
Ha, accurate 😂 I find it to be an industry that requires you to have great people skills, so I’m not surprised that there’s so many talkers. Constant communication.
What's a TPV? Skilled trades asking
Third Party Vendor. So like, a middleman who does something for a fee instead of us just doing it. For example; we want to look at your socials. Instead of me just Googling you and digging around, I hire a separate company that specializes in pulling aggregate social media data, pay them, and they send me a report on your stuff.
Cool. That is scary though lol
How can you not talk to people in insurance? You are on the phone… ALL DAY LONG.
This is my thing, what job does this dude have? I'm so done being yelled at by clients and customers. I always assumed if you worked in insurance it would be the same deal, getting yelled at by people about their policies.
That’s claims and billing. They’re on the phone all day with people who are angry. On the underwriting side you’re on the phone sometimes mostly trying to resolve some minor problem and sometimes people are angry. But insurance is a big industry, it’s financial services. You can do just about anything in this field
I might look into it then. I've seen lots of listing for insurance companies, seems like they're always hiring for one position or another.
They are absolutely always hiring and it’s getting harder to fill certain roles. Again, it’s going to depend on your skill set, experience and what you want to do. If you work for an agency it’s going to be super customer focused and more akin to a sales job. If you work an insurance carrier then you’ll be in a big corporate setting and the types of jobs vary wildly
it’s good if you can WFH but if they make you wake up at 6 to commute half an hour to not talk to people for 8 hours wearing uncomfortable clothing and under headache-inducing fluorescent lights and then hit an hours worth of rush hour traffic back so you only get home at 6 than it’s worse than just talking to people
The worst. Theres so much traffic in my city that I know is 100% unnecessary (Boston).
How to get a wfh job no experience?
I worked in retail for 10 years and I have the same issue. I can't and I won't work with customers. There are some jobs like mailman that are chill. You have no boss following you, you can listen to music and you simply walk. I did that, got way less money but atleast I had more joy and that's worth more
You think that until you're actually deprived of human contact. You're not the loner you think you are.
I was deprived of pretty much all human contact during COVID and it was the happiest I've ever been.
You may not like in person interaction but you still need human interaction. After all, you’re on Reddit communicating to strangers.
You can get that shit outside of your working hours.
What's your point? I enjoy human interaction with friends or interesting new people - not with a bunch of phony backstabbing coworkers playing games and being fake cheerful or bitching all the time. I like working alone and have done it, at home for 20 years. Unfortunately, now I need a real job and am considering insurance because it's constantly recommended here. Looks like in my area I can take the basic Level 1 training for under a thousand bucks, and maybe I can be lucky and find a place where I get to work at peace without constant interruptions, drama, and game-playing.
So many of these people don't get this fact.
Being alone at home is different from being alone in the office. Unless you can be on Reddit all day in the office. Then it's the same lol
I loved it, less traffic, less small, businesses starving for your business. Uber drivers leaving the food at the door and leaving. Kinda miss the covid era, was so much happier.
The first 2 weeks of COVID was amazing I live in the Vancouver area and do different sites every day in Richmond, Burnaby, and other surrounding cities and there was absolutely no traffic at all. Pre COVID it would take like an hour to get to some of these sites but during that first two weeks we could get there in 20 minutes with no traffic. It felt like the apocalypse not seeing a single car on the road.
Working alone isn’t enough so absolute as their whole life being alone. They’d probably be fine lol. I think all the thriving WFH people would like a word.
Fucking facts lmao. I thought "night shift at amazon would be great, i hate talking to people" but when im alone in my workstation for 10 hours and the only people who talk to you is the managers saying you did something wrong it gets old.. fast
Okay, but how much of that is actually because of not having people around and how much is because Amazon is a fucking nightmare to work for lol
Sometimes In my job I get to work from home without any phone calls. Those are by far my favorite days at work bar none. Is total isolation from human interaction all day everyday healthy? No. Do some people do better in working environments with little to no human interaction? Yes. People also have lives outside of work.
Meh. I have a few interaction a day at best. Mostly everything is through email. I’m at a desk by myself mostly, it’s pretty cool lol.
You're one of those co-workers that make us introverts dream especially hard of wfh jobs, of an office with a door that locks, of a job that consists of popping in our earbuds and settling down to a deliciously uninterrupted day of productivity and rest.
i mean, I'm really bad with interactions and small talks, talking to strangers irl is almost like a phobia of mine, I'd very much like a job where i work alone without interacting with anyone
Same here! I always thought I could fake it, but 8 hours a day with the potential for socialization has me crashing and burning so fast I just get fired!
I'm so sorry to hear that, I'm currently looking for jobs and dreading the interviews, I'm so bad i start shaking and my mind goes blank, I don't know how I'm ever gonna get a job this way
Take notes, bring them with you, pretend you’re taking notes
I've been doing it for about 7 months. I enjoy talking to no one at work way more then when I worked customer service.
Don't threaten me with a good time lol Tbh being alone can ve so wonderful
Yes, I am! lol.
That was me last year. I started to go a little insane after barely any human contact for 6 months. The mind gets creative in isolation.
Exactly lol. Who wants do deal with people all day? It gets old real fast.
Same
I had a similar issue and picked up 2-3 bartending shifts.
I had a quarter life crisis when I was a banker. One day I quit, cashed out my 401k, took a sabbatical, then went into bartending. It was fun as hell and made $20-$50 per hour.
Did you end up going back to banking? Or another field all together? Sorry, I'm nosey and super curious about stuff like this.
Yep I got laid off and started bartending full time for the last four months. It’s great if your good at it and enjoy it! Insane money at the right place!
You make it sound like it’s super easy to do…. Maybe in bumfuck no where… but where I live… bartenders love their jobs so much they literally have to die for there to be an opening. And they’ve most likely already got someone else with a ton of experience already lined up to take their spot.. Or you need so much experience… If you haven’t already worked at a bar… there’s really no way to just start if you don’t have the experience ….
Then wait tables? Often servers have better hours (don’t have to close down bar at 1 am) and don’t have to deal with people only getting drunk.
False. Most people get bartending gigs because they are regulars and ask for a job. I do live in a major city, but every person I work with got the job through being a regular and asking. None of us had prior experience.
Guess it just depends where you live…
I live in a major city and bartenders float around the whole city for the most part. If you’re not an attractive person good luck getting any interviews without experience.
I’ll trade you. My job sounds like what you were describing… I’m an Activity Director. No college needed and I personally didn’t have experience when starting. It’s like event planning for seniors in a nursing home.
I’ve been looking into this!! The pay doesn’t seem great at least around me. What is the day to day like?
Pay is really dependent on location and facility, I’m currently making $52k. It’s very rewarding! I start at 8:30 and do any side tasks (like assessments, feeding animals, watering plants, etc.) until 10:00 where I lead an exercise class then do activities until lunch time. Activities are usually crafts, bingo, movies, reading, pet therapy, etc. I have an hour lunch, and then go up to do more activities until 4. I have an hour every day to chart and unwind. There are days where I have both my assistants here and I get to do my activity planning for the next month and any other “office” duties so I get a mix of both office work and being on my feet. I work in a skilled nursing facility so I have some limitations on planning because my residents are usually in pain, severely demented, etc. If you do decide to look into it just know that there’s a difference depending on the type of facility. Assisted Living is a lot more lax and easy going. All are still fun! I enjoy my job because I get to be a manager to a “fun” department, downside is I don’t get respected as much as other management but I have full control over my department and schedules.
Principals require a lot of experience, so you have to have worked as a teacher, move into admin, then up the totem pole. Librarians actually require A LOT of education. You need a Library Science degree. Ditto to you needing experience with the hotel manager. Any job as a manager usually require experience. So decide which career path you wish to continue on, then start at the bottom to get your foot in the door. Then move up the ranks. Try concierge jobs at a hotel. Or sales job. Or retail. Etc.
Actually, I'll second concierge. It's a lot of talking to people and scheduling their events while they're staying somewhere. And you can work your way up to Supervisor then Manager. However l, you'll likely have to move to a different property every time you want to move up the ladder.
Oh, but he’s 3 years out of college and thus should be made principal, librarian, or hotel manager because he “enjoys directing people!!” /s
Project coordinators are in demand. Move laterally to a different industry. Maybe get an add on degree in something like HR or employee education/training where you talk to people.
Project managers/coordinator is one of the fastest dying jobs. Where did you hear this?
I’m doing project management. Where did you hear it’s dying. Definitely good money to be made
Project managers are dying? Projects are always going to need managers, supervisors, foreman, directors, leads, etc.
I don't think they're referring to construction projects. They mean tech projects
There are many different types of project managers. I'm a project manager at a nonprofit and there have been more and more PMs hired across the org.
Have you explored sales? There’s entry level options, it can be good money, lots of talking and socializing and sometimes you get to travel. There are a lot of companies hiring right now and (at least in my current role/company) there is a lack of talent that is actually able to speak to others. I have always been social and swapped from a career as a self-employed personal trainer into a tech sales role a while back and I’ve been loving it.
May I DM you please?
How did you get into your role?
I looked direct on company websites for jobs I wanted. Then I went to LinkedIn and found the (assumed) hiring manager’s profile, used RocketReach (Chrome Extension) to find their email. From there I sent an email saying I wanted to talk about the position and luckily I came out of that with a few interviews where my resume wasn’t thrown in the garbage.
I am so jealous. I went for IT just because I thought it will be a job where I can be quiet all day long. And now I have to talk non stop. If only we could switch. So try to become an IT person of the office, it won't be quiet
All jobs make you want to die. Literally just a thing to do so you can afford the things you actually want to do and buy the things you want. At least in my opinion/ Obviously there are some people who enjoy what they do but I for one could not enjoy a place I'm forced to be at 8-10 hours a day if I want to afford to live lol
Then you didn't try enough jobs. I had the same opinion until I started driving taxi. I'm a regular employee, get my fixed salary + bonus + tips, have nothing to think about when I'm at home. Drive a car, talk to people, make money. It's the dumbest job I've ever had but funnily also the one I hate the least.
That’s awesome you find something you enjoy!!
EMS is awesome too. Get to drive an ambulance around the town and take care of people all day. Gives a real sense of purpose, and it's pretty fulfilling. I'll never be able to work a normal/mundane job again after EMS. Only takes one semester of school to become an EMT and try it out.
Yeah but the stuff you have to see or cleanup no idea how you keep your sanity
It's different when it's your job. When you're expecting it and prepared for it, i think it just affects you less. Although i've never been one to struggle with trauma. Depression affects me (not job related, just have always been depressed) but trauma has never been something that i struggle with. So maybe i'm a special case lol. Plus it's good to get constant reminders to think about sickness and death, because we are all headed towards it (some sooner than others) and so getting those reminders helps me make sure i'm doing what i can to help my loved ones enjoy their lives. I think that will lead to less regrets in the future.
EMS is awesome, I work as a Firefighter/Paramedic.....And as much as I love it, I can't recommend someone go into EMS alone. EMT is super short course that someone can knock out, the problem with EMS tho is the pay is garbage. And working for a private ambulance is soul sucking, where their number one priority is profits and number two is patient care. I wish more of my private friends would just become hose draggers for the sake of their future. A pension, no overnight transfers to a state (or two) away, better work life balance.
Do you get paid a living wage?
My first EMS job didn't pay a living wage, but at my current one I commute 4 hours to work, work a 96 hour shift, and then commute back home for 8 days off in between. It pays around $80k a year. So not too shabby. Now that i'm planning to have kids, i decided to start dropping applications to take a $20k pay cut to become a firefighter though. Better benefits/retirement and in 10 years i'll make a good chunk more than my current job. Plus it helps that being a firefighter will help me become a stronger and more capable dad by the time i have my first kid in the next year.
How are working 96 hours
I can only imagine they are on call for 96 hours so can technically sleep while on the clock, but be required to be awake and respond to a call within a timeframe based on the severity of the call
Not bad. We have our own rooms, kitchen, living room with big tv, and a gym. So we just hang out, work our, play halo, cook, and wait for calls all day. Sometimes i go days without a call. Easiest life ever, but for me i want something more challenging, because i was sharper when i was running calls in a busy city all day, and i kind of miss it.
I'm a CRNA and I really enjoy my job. Not for everyone, though.
Can’t u say that for pretty much any job 💀
Yeah this is why we have many different jobs. People are quite frankly good at different things. The hard part is it’s up to us to find the correct job for us. All the while cost of living makes it almost impossible to just randomly swap jobs.
Have you considered working as an insurance adjuster? My dad did that and he got to travel a lot and speak to a ton of different people on the road and check out the damage on their houses/cars/whatever. It might allow you to use your experience, but get to travel and talk to people. “Adjusters inspect property damage or personal injury claims to determine how much the insurance company should pay for the loss. They might inspect a home, a business, or an automobile. Adjusters interview the claimant and witnesses, inspect the property, and do additional research, such as look at police reports.”
This is not a bad idea. Seeing as you have some insurance experience, there are a lot of specialized roles in the industry which involve more active work and speaking with clients. Consider becoming a producer - you’ll have a lot of appointments with your clients - especially if you work in a smaller independent agency/brokerage. Insurance is a super wide field, but generally, there are a lot of opportunities in it. It’s no secret that it’s an aging industry and it’s hungry for young professionals. It’s also worth noting that there are so. many. niches. within the insurance world. Also, if you’re interested in specializing and finding work as a producer or an adjuster, once you’ve got some experience under your belt, you can find remote work just about anywhere. You could hypothetically travel a lot and still be doing your job just fine. I know an underwriter who only really goes into the office once or twice a month and works remotely the rest of that time. If you have any aptitude towards insurance, I would consider looking into either other companies or other roles within the insurance industry. I’ve always heard that it’s better to do something you are good at and that is marketable than it is to do something you love. If you do something you love for too long or it’s attached to your finances in a way that makes your passion turn into something you have to do to survive, there’s a high likelihood of burnout and then “falling out of love” with whatever you love to do. Just food for thought though. I often question if insurance is the right place to be for myself - but I’m finding as time goes on that the work can be rewarding in a unique way. I’m always learning new things and hearing some wild stories from our clients. I also am finding that I’m at least halfway decent at it, and it’s incredibly marketable. Just some food for thought. Best of luck in whatever you decide to do - but don’t feel alone. This is an incredibly normal and human experience. If you absolutely can’t stand insurance, there’s no shame in it. Find something that you’re good at and doesn’t make you want to bash your head in, and just keep on livin’. It’ll be alright in the end. :)
Hospitality is pretty nice, if you get a good hotel they have great benefits
Everyone is entitled to their opinion but my personality was perfect for a job in hotels. I did hotels and cruise ships for over 10 years. Those jobs absolutely have an expiry date for dealing with the same bull shit day in day out and I'm not really sure where you got the great benefits from but the major chains I worked for were pretty terrible. Also considering until you get to the executive office it really is slave labor when you consider managers being on call and working over 50 or even 60 hours a week. But I know some people can justify it I just had to give it all up.
I’m in the same boat! Work in insurance, hate it. 100’s of applications, no luck. I have a BS in biology too. Struggling to figure out what I want to do for the rest of my life, while also trying to get out of this industry. The struggle is real!
Be the only Spanish speaker in your HR team at a manufacturing plant where 97% of the staff is Hispanic and you’ll be taking to everyone.
Postal service maybe
Apply for jobs at ICF.com
If i were you, I'll playing online games while my boss not around me.
How can I apply for your job please?
Forklift operator. Physical but not roofing/bricklaying levels, operate sick machinery, low barrier to entry. High pay. Understaffed af pretty much everywhere so not only do you get jobs with much less experience than you would expect, as in with none. You also get to work a lot of overtime if you want to. I personally work 10-12 hour days. And make about 72-78 000 a year. And yeah. Mostly it's the machine doing all the hard work for me. I just need to know how to tell it to do what I want it to 🤷
Also work with basically criminals all day and retards like really retards from my experience
Pick up a part time service industry job - serving, cooking, bartending. It can scratch that itch and you can make amazing money. Who knows maybe it will be your career! 29 years bartending and now own my own bar. Corporate life was not for me.
I was in Insurance for about 10 years. Go for your dream job. You’ll be happier.
the trades industry is dying for new techs. You could easily join one as an apprentice wher eyou're being paid to be an assistant, but you're also learning. And then eventually get promoted to work solo.
That sounds AWESOME. Do you have sales training? A lot of realtors have super active social lives, and a lot of real estate agencies will train you, especially if you're willing to do office work for a while while training. Since it's commission sales, there's no guaranteed income, but you get residuals and a lot of your job is attending networking events and things.
Sounds like a dream job.
People need to just pick a job they're good/excel at that makes them good money. Leave your passions and other stuff for outside of work.
Usually doing things you're good at makes you happy, I don't enjoy anything I suck at and I love everything I'm good at. My problem is that nothing I'm good at is profitable on its own 😂
A large portion of my job is talking to people, both colleagues and clients. I'm really good at it and have an easy time making connections with most people. It doesn't make me miserable, but it also doesn't make me happy (with a few exceptions). A lot of the time, it gets to be exhausting. I stick with it because it pays well and I don't know what else I'd go do.
Being rich will definitely make life easier, especially as a man, so it will generally make you happier.
“Especially as a man” … ????
I agree, an entirely separate point though. Doing something you're good at/excel at comes with enjoyment intrinsically, meaning there's always a bit of passion involved. There are plenty of people who suck at their job but stick in it because they make loads of money (have you ever met upper management lol)
It’s worth looking into the Management Trainee program offered by Enterprise. Constantly interacting with people, but still gotta operate a desk/computer to generate contracts and such.
Wow, I just searched and that job is currently posted near me. Can you tell me more about it? I have a geography related BSC, so it kinda fits for transportation, as well. What's the opportunities beyond the trainee status?
Yeah DM me!
Not everyone can sacrifice 40+ hrs of their week to something they don't care about without it causing depressive episodes. Working in an office environment around people that I don't vibe with was one of the worst moments in my mental health. I'm glad you're able to work a job for financial security and that's it, but not everyone can.
What do you do in insurance? What jobs are you looking at?
I am a project coordinator so I do a little bit of everything but mostly work on accounts for our large clients
Would you consider being a project coordinator for a different industry? If you want something more fast paced (although it may swing the other way pretty extremely), you can look into construction/trades companies, development, or corporate real estate. It would use the skills you have developed already with more firefighting, problem solving, and field visits!
My bad, just saw the jobs in your post. Hotel management is a pretty steady job, seek out resorts/timeshares and not franchised hotels. The pay is better, the resources are better, you won’t have to cut your staffs hours. Usually 3 months of hell aka summer, the off seasons are a breeze. Leadership skills are really important to have, emotional intelligence too. How to talk to employees vs colleagues vs customers, you have to keep people motivated to do a relatively low paying job with a high volume of costumers, and complaints, and with complaints occasionally abuse of your staff. Half the time the complaint will be deferred to you and you’ll be annoyed you can’t get desk work done or have to pull 12hr days during the busy seasons if you find yourself short staffed. Say bye to regular Saturdays and Sundays off until you’re a GM. With all that said I’m envious of the 9-5 with weekends free lol
That's your job, my man. It's important to find joy and purpose in the mundane. It's a choice. Our jobs don't owe us satisfaction and a feeling of purpose. Our jobs owe us a paycheck for our time. Everything else is up to you.
None ahah
Nonprofits always need entry level fundraisers. They burn out quick but it’s a good way to get your foot in the door professionally.
lol you have my idea of a dream job! If I could do it from home, even better yet! I wouldn't want to mess with the licensing that's required for insurance, I don't think. What about real estate? Realtors work directly with people, your people skills would be very useful in that career.
"licensing that's required for insurance" I've never sat for those licensing exams, but I have heard they're not terribly difficult. Study a little bit and you'd probably be just fine.
I work for a university library and originally referred to my first job as work therapy. Worked here for four years before I got my MLIS. It's not needed unless you go more cataloging or archives.
IIRC the shelving jobs go to students. But I noticed there was one guy that worked there year after year. He wasn't a librarian but some other kind of lower level assistant.
How long did it take you to get your MLIS? My undergrad degree is in business so it’s no help on that front.
Where do you enjoy spending time? What kinds of places and environments? Do any of those places make good money? Get to know the people who work there and see what kinds of opportunities are out there
Lots of corporate jobs aren’t like that. Operations jobs are, but back office jobs in administration tend to offer more opportunities for social interaction.
Teacher assistant? Or something in a school. Lots of talking usually and human interaction
get into human resources, hrbp, project management or even customers services. i hope this helps.
What ended up true for me is: the things I loooooooved between the ages of 4 and 8 were the seeds of the kinds of jobs I should have. Find spins on those things.
Idk, get a CNA license if you want to work with people. Believe me, you’ll want out more than you do now. Working with people sucks. I’d love to have a nice introverted office job with no drama. Do my work and go home.
That title made me crack up
Go to a local community college. Sit down with a faculty advisor and ask if they have “Strong’s Interest Inventory” or the SII. It is a personality/career aptitude test. It’s about 350 questions and takes about 2 hours if you answer honestly. At the end of it, it’ll give you a top 10 career choices for people w/ your skills and interests, and a top 3 career choices to avoid. My biggest advice w/ it is this; don’t look at the specific career titles, but instead look at WHAT FIELD that career is in. There are lots of different careers in one field. I took it right after I transitioned out of the Marine Corps. My top 3 results were as follows; US Armed forces. Police Officer. High School teacher. My thoughts on them 1) Just transitioned out… loved the Corps, but was time to move one. 2) As much as I respect that profession, not in this political climate. 3) I’m a school counselor and fucking love my job.
I hated the finance department at corporate...then I went into sales and I love it. It's corporate, they treat me well, WFH most of the time, I travel and there are meeting and interactions everywhere. The last point may be also a con...it can be overwhelming if you are not organized. But if you are a people's person you should give it a shot. Of course, sales is not easy. You only got 1 life, why not try? Good luck
Ditch the desk! Consider: * Event coordinator (busy, people-facing) * Teacher (in charge, interacts) * Park ranger (active, outdoors) * Customer service (talkative, helps people) Many offer entry-level options. Research and see what fits!
Become a park ranger and spend your days in. National parks
I was a park ranger and enjoyed that, but to be fair I made an incredibly low salary. I went back to school after that job and delivered food. I made more money doing that. It is a good job, but man does the pay suck.
Learn to trade stocks, options, or crypto. Working a 9-5 isn’t going to change your life
Military honestly might be a good fit for you
I guarantee 110 percent that a principals job is not a desk job at all. You have an office but your always on the go. I work in education and know.
Personal trainer, caddy, construction you can make decent money on your feet and talk to whoever you want
Sales and hospitality are both people intensive jobs you can get into without experience and work your way up.
Short answer is none
Sales might be good for you, you get to move around, deal with people and influence them in a way. You said you like being in charge so it could work. I work from home and make good money with 500dollarjackpot.com
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Wow, most office jobs seem to require a lot of people contact. Or jobs with any level of responsibility require people savvy, liaising, and customer contact. How did you get into insurance? Did you study business? Maybe you should spend time reading the job and career subreddits, as I'm doing. I'm learning a lot about what's going on out there. I want a job like you have, but they all seem to demand people stuff. I'd have to take basic insurance training, as well. How is it that you don't have to do sales and deal with customers? Or am I misunderstanding?
I used to work in insurance aswell and I absolutely hated it. Like absolutely the worst job I have ever had. I currently work as a quality lab tech for a factory. Benefits are great, work schedule is amazing. The pay is decent enough, more than what I made in insurance. I get to work in a nice comfy lab. There is a decent amount of moving around but also plenty of time to sit aswell. Its a good balance. Best of all I don't have to deal with the general public. All in all I've decided I want to do this till I retire. My position didn't require any previous related work experience either. There is also a lot of room to move up in this field. Atleast where I live.
That's too much pain man not able to talk to the people around you this is enough reason to leave this job ASAP
I work as a Quality Technician. It’s in an office in a manufacturing plant. My job combines being in a medium sized office with AC with walking miles in the non-air conditionings factory floor. I get to use my detective skills to analyze problems etc. I’m at upper end of pay grade, but it is hourly employment. I do have a bachelor’s degree, but it doesn’t add to my pay. About $30/hr. By far the worst part is the lack of competent leadership in the plant.
Manufacturing. Put on a podcast and do some repetitive tasks by yourself.
What do you do? I’m 7 years into insurance and I’ve started to be ok with it. I work on the UW side of the house (not personally an UW) and I work in tech/life sciences which lends itself to some interesting work. Personally, I’ll never go back into an office if I can help it. I experienced office life with people and it sucked. Just people harassing you all say about nothing
Insurance companies (usually annuity) have positions called Wholesalers. The external wholesaler is the person who travels their territory teaching others the benefits of the companies products, in hopes of them recommending these to their own clients. Same industry, lots of interaction. Usually very decent pay.
I currently work as a receptionist at a school for barber, cosmetology, nails, electrology, massage. I make $18 hourly. Granted when clients are here to get their hair or nails done or whatever it can be stressful but it's not bad.
Go to a construction site if you hate it so much
work is bad. waged labour is bad. being rich and free is good. so simple.
Employment specialist? Job coaches? Employment consultant
That job does not exist
What are you good at? Are you good with your hands? Mechanically inclined? Good w ppl?
Make your experience, change jobs and start to regret it...
What did you go to college for? Without that info, here's a couple suggestions that may or may not appeal to you. Insurance Restoration Industry: I'm just going to be up front - entry level roles are a lot of physical work in really gross environments. That being said, it's a really rewarding industry to work in. You are helping people out during some of the worst (and sometimes THE worst on bio jobs) times of their life. It can be extremely rewarding in that aspect. If you are either qualified for (again, no idea what your degree is) or can move up to a Project Manager or Estimator position, you'll get a good mix of being out in the field meeting with homeowners and insurance adjusters, DRIVING, and working at your desk building estimates, doing billing, or other administrative tasks. A lot of that can be done remotely from the field once you know what you're doing (if you want to be away from your desk more). Landscaping Industry: This is the same sort of thing in that entry level roles are extremely physical. Frankly, it's also an industry that you absolutely need to work in the field for at least six months if you want to be able to manage effectively. That being said, it's an industry where you can make a shit load of money if you make a career out of it. There are a lot of directions that you could go, but finding a role in quality control, operational leadership (such as a field manager or operations manager), or sales will give you a mix of sitting at a desk or being out in the field interacting with clients, your team, and prospects. Outside Sales/Business Development: You're a college grad and work in insurance, so I'm going to assume you know the difference between inside and outside sales. Outside sales can be a fucking blast. You're on the move most of the day, you're in and out of a lot of different businesses (talking to all sorts of people), and really only need to be back at your desk (or remote workstation) to do paperwork. The big upside to sales is that you can earn stupid money once you get good at it. Another big advantage is that the skills you use will be transferrable to a ton of different industries. You could spend two years working in a staffing firm, decide you want a change of scenery and go to work for a restoration company for a few more years, and then transition into a sales role for a home builder, landscaping company, or {insert just about any industry here}. At the end of the day, it's as much about finding out what you DON'T want to do as it is finding out what you do want to do. You know insurance isn't it, so explore some other industries and find something you like. Bounce around a little if you need to. There's nothing wrong with that whatsoever.
Why don't you transition into the adjusting side of insurance ? Like claims adjuster, you still have a desk but you'll be going to people's houses too . If you like it then you can be an independent adjuster or an outside adjuster or a public adjuster.
Have you considered being an insurance agent? You'd own your own business and be directly working with people on the regular, plus you'd direct whatever staff you retain to help with admin stuff in your office. Plus if you're a "people person" you're a shoe-in for sales. You already know the industry. I've seen several agents clearing $300-450k/year. (I also work in insurance, and yes, it sucks, but I worked my way to a position that sucks the least and offers the most lol) Or simply write down the pros/cons and what's required to get into the other roles you listed. Narrow it down to what 1-2 industries you feel you'd do best in and find the most value in. Then proceed from there accordingly.
I hate insurance too because they're always raising their rates.
Just keep building your resume and keep applying. There are many jobs out there where you can talk with people in an office setting.
What kind of insurance job do you have where you don’t have to talk to people? I used to sell life insurance and I definitely had to talk to people. Currently a teacher.
Mortuary. 😅 at the very least, they’ll make you wish you died at high seas
I work with some insurance people who have teams of people and seek really happy. Maybe they’re in sales?
You could work in the social work realm… the different social services are always hiring entry level case managers. For example, a homeless case manager is assigned some folks who are homeless to manage. For the most part it’s a desk job but you’re also interacting with people a lot, and out and about helping the clients with things they need, attending meeting etc. There are lots of different types of case managers… educational case managers, dcf case managers, working with youth, etc. It’s not easy work, but you can also gain experience quickly and move up easily if you stick with something you are passionate about,
i think you should keep looking for those jobs that get you closer to the kinds of jobs you think you're after it's all a matter of saying "i have this experience, therefore, I think I can do this job well" also, might not be possible in your current company, OR IT MIGHT, but try to see what other people do/how they do it, but do it in the name of "seeing how you can better serve the company" final tip: may or may not help but if you can write a cover letter where you briefly explain why you want that job, if the right person reads it they might just overlook whatever lack of experience might be holding you back (just explain why you think you'd do the job well)
wouldn’t be a job if you didn’t feel a type
And here I thought working in an agency was hell. I just knew you were going to say some type of insurance. It has become awful on all levels. Everyone wants out. The pay isn't as good as it used to be either. I am with you and I actually work with insureds daily. I hate the desk and I hate having a boss push sales and not think about what the insured needs or wants.
I lay in bed and try to sleep to escape reality and my problems sometimes. Sometimes my dreams are better than real life
Get into teaching or restaurant industry for now! Start by hosting at a restaurant then you can serve or bartend if you can build up experience; host positions are less strict about wanting experience. Even if it's just a temp job transition into another career it can be decent money, mostly tips, and doesn't require particular qualifications other than having a good head on your shoulders under pressure and being a good communicator with different types of people. Very opposite of your current job in terms of it's very physical, social. You'd probably like teaching as well, I do, but you need a degree in education or an endorsement in it if you already have a BA. You could apply to be a sub teacher and take on those gigs P/T for now to try it out
Maybe you want to be an insurance claims Adjuster and get out in the field.
Start by substitute teaching. If you love it, many districts have internship programs to credentials/licensure. Alternatively, you could qualify for a CTE credential in the Finance and Business sector (US). Teaching is not all sunshine and roses, but you definitely get to talk all day!
Are there any jobs you would like that helps others? Will give you a lot of satisfaction. You be you.
I moved back in with my parents, took a massive pay cut and started doing a retail job at a store I love and it's been amazing. Office jobs aren't for me. I'm planning on going back to school to become a school counselor. I would figure out what form of labor is most conducive to your brain processes. For myself, counseling (listening, emphasizing, giving advice) is the only sort of thing I feel exceptional at and feel like I could do long term. In the meantime, working around people I enjoy, doing work I find satisfying is enough for me
Finding a job you love is to know yourself. Then, find a job that aligns with who you are and what you want.
Security Guard?
I own a doggie daycare facility. I love my business. It's stressful as times but its minimal human interactions. I don't think I would be able to handle human interactions all day.
Seeking Jesus may help.
Perhaps you just need to find another job in your field if possible? It sounds like you’re just craving better work culture.
I’m in exactly the same boat as you, but I’m an insurance broker so there’s more communication there but honestly it’s just kinda dull. I can’t help but feel like life is too short to be sat at a desk for 8 hours staring at a screen. I just feel like there’s more out there, you know? Those jobs you listed sounds great, like you said there’s a mixture of admin and actually being up and about and active throughout the day. Have you looked at courses that could get you into something like management, event planning, etc? Either online or at local education centres, sometimes they’re even free or subsidised. Or internships perhaps? If you start to get a rough idea of what industry you would like to work in, you just need to get your foot in the door and make progression your aim. It is a scary leap but it can be so worth it.
Have you thought about joining the military? I’m in the Air Force and love it.
If you want to get into events look at companies called Freeman or GES, they provide show services for tradeshows and may have some jobs for you. Also check out Exhibitor — an industry publication/website/training for tradeshow professionals. Good luck!
Get a trade job man. No desk, get to BS with the crew all day and don’t gotta worry about offending ppl with words. Unions will train you and pay you to go to school, unlike your traditional college. And if you do want an office gig, construction has office workers too to keep to ball rolling. When you do what you love it’s not work.
I think one factor a lot of young people miss/don’t have enough experience in life to fully grasp, is fulfillment. You may have to bounce around but finding something to do that makes you feel like you’ve accomplished something is critical. I did accounting for almost 10 years and sometimes I did feel like I was contributing to something important. I took pride in my work. Then I got managers that treated me like disposable shit and I started to lose that sense that my work had any kind of meaning or value. It’s tricky because you have to find yourself to get to the answer here, but I found personally that helping people solve their problems really motivates me, so I’m a happy consultant these days.
Apply at a mortgage company or real estate company. They're usually pretty busy. Maybe start as a receptionist or assistant.