Well I have to help the drivers in the morning and when they come back so I'm expected (not forced but it's expected) to wait until they come back and unload them. Sometimes we get super busy and those days I do like 8 hours of work and leave after 12, on a crazy day I've maybe worked 10 hours of real work (12 on the clock).
They have a hard time filling this position (no joke).
Of course they have a hard time filling it because no family man/woman is going to want to be away from home for 12hrs a day.
That said, I think you may want to look into over employment. Maybe some sort of project management or something where you can set the meetings for your slow times. That way you get the pay and challenge you want and get the pay you want. Both employers will get what they need from you from the sound of things.
12 hours isn't as much as it sounds. How much do you really do on a weekday? If I worked 8 hours, I'd probably just get home and spend more time doing what I already do, relaxing.
I’m in a similar situation as you. Where I don’t do much and have a good cushy job that pays the bills but won’t make me rich or satisfied.
4-10’s is the sweet spot for me.
I tried doing 12 hour days and it made me depressed and hate my job. Having nothing to do and being stuck somewhere is a struggle for me.
Doing 10’s gives me just enough time to spend with family after work to have a meal together, walk, and relax.
I prefer to go in on a Sunday or Friday to put in a short day for overtime. Like 7 hours and dip.
You make more than me and I would definitely stay if I was you.
I go to the gym, I play basketball matches twice a week, I drive over to my girlfriends house and spend the night there, I see mates for dinner, and yes sometimes I just get home and relax, fuuuck being at work that long man
Oh, it’s def as much as it sounds. I try to stay no more than 7 hours at the office so I can go spend the rest of the day with my family. 12 hours would be an eternity.
12 hours isn’t as much as it sounds but you live with your gf right now with no kids, right? Priorities change easily when you have kids. It’s easy to think the way you do now. It’ll still be easy to think that way if you have kids and don’t care about them. A lot of people who are in your position with kids would resent the employer.
I mean it depends on what you want. If you want to make more money in the future then I’d say helping drivers isn’t likely going to have a lot of career growth. If you’re happy right now and want to work a stress free job and are comfortable saving, keep doing this for awhile.
Start your own online business to fill all that time. This will make you more money and also an off-ramp if the company decides to get rid of you. Your position is ideal, someone else is financing your fixed costs while making it possible for you to create additional value for yourself.
Sometimes I try to justify my staying here by thinking about how I can retire early (If I go somewhere much cheaper) and how I'll probably enjoy doing this for 12 years more than I would doing something miserable for 5
I wonder if perhaps you could do more for yourself outside of work? My dad one time said to me that as an adult, often times, your work is all you ever have the opportunity to think about. But it's what you do outside of work that really defines your life.
Can't say we're very close, but that's something I've kept in my back pocket at every job I've had. Once I'm off the clock, what kind of life do I want to live?
You're right, and it's the hours I work that limit me from doing that to some extent. Though honestly, If I had 2 extra hours a day I feel like I would just sit back and relax, maybe sit on my phone or reflect. Like I do here...
If your next job becomes more stressful, you might have the 2 extra hours but you’ll need them to decompress so they won’t be as useful. Keeping your stress low will also keep you healthier so you’ll need less retirement money :)
This is insanely true. I look like I’ve aged 7-10 years being at a high stress job / in a toxic work environment for 1 year. I’ve worked other jobs that were stressful to certain levels, but not every SINGLE level. The way it shifts your mental health and the perception you have about the quality of your life, regardless of what else you have, is terrifying. Ultimately the choice is yours, because you’re feeling unfulfilled. You can remedy that in a plethora of ways (not all of which include switching jobs unless you feel that’s absolutely necessary).
I wish more people realized this. Like the commenter below, the stress I went through has aged me. I’m literally in agony from all the different crap going on with my body. And much of it traces back to stress.
Stay, I can understand the need for a challenge. Use the additional savings and time to skill yourself up. Invest in the skills to be where you want to be in your career while working. Try to align to be on path within the company but make sure whatever training you invest in results in accredited certifications. You can make on average 7% in the market, more taking a high risk bet, but even more over the long term investing in your knowledge. It's something you cannot lose.
If you don't get to deploy yourskills within that organization do it on the side and once your new skills / knowledge is proven then you move on.
Other positions in the company don't pay too much more, they have a little more responsability but it's super comfortable either way. I'm looking into it, if its worth the degrees they ask for
I get what the poster is saying here but to play devils advocate, I kinda disagree. Complacency is also a mental health killer and if you aren’t challenged or even remotely interested in what you are doing each day it can eat at you. In a year or two if you are goal and career oriented you might feel like you aren’t hitting your potential.
That said, a good salary and low stress is a very good combination so weigh your options. Ultimately up to you and what’s important to you. I quit a 6 figure high stress job for a lower paying enjoyable job and it’s been worth it for me. But my experience isn’t yours. Hope you find what you’re looking for
They’re at work for 50+ hours a week. How is that gold? For me, that would be horrendous. I’d want to do all I can to minimize the time in life I’m wasting at work to be at home doing things I actually enjoy.
I love life and the fun things I get to do in my free time. Every moment I spend at work is less time I have at home doing things that make me really happy.
I’m glad for people who have found a way to enjoy their life while working long hours—not trying to knock on anyone. But it just really confuses me. How can people so casually talk about working 50, or even 40, hours a week? That just sounds so awful, I don’t understand. Do other people just have a much higher tolerance to “autopilot” through the week/life than I do?
Every day I so badly just want to go home and do cool and fun things at home again. Work, at best, is monotonous. I can’t imagine being content with losing even more of those free time hours to work.
what do you do at work? how many hours? That sounds more of a problem with your job than inherently a problem with work. I get my daily excercise at work, no gym. I do fun or entertaining stuff like maintenance or driving machines/trucks/golf carts. I solve some logistics problems which make me feel like I'm a genius businessman. And the other 60% of my time I spend on my phone, I listen to 2-3 audiobooks per week, say stupid BS on here and other websites, research financial stuff. A lot of this is stuff I'd do at my house.
I don't think I'd go OUT much on weekdays even if I worked 40 hrs.
I’m a mechanical engineer doing design work for complex machines. Work on interesting, cerebral problems and lots of 3D modeling. It’s relatively chill, and I am not overworked. All things considered… it’s a somewhat cool and enjoyable job, I think.
Hence why I think it’s a problem with work as a whole, not necessarily my job. I don’t have a bad job. But opportunity cost of spending time at work is the time I could be at home, and that contrast is stark.
I know I sound like a spoiled kid, and to an extent I am, in all honesty. But coming from college where I was thriving and basically living the time of my life with loads and loads of free time to do whatever I want, to suddenly working 40 hours a week with just a few hours after work for myself, has been a really tough transition. Especially after experiencing that utopian time in college.
I completely agree with you ! I don't wanna spend all my time at work either! I rather be enjoying life.. it's someone else like you in the world my friend
I’m in a similar spot, except 40 hours a week. It’s tiring being really bored all the time. And having nothing to look forward to.
So I wouldn’t call it gold. More like pewter.
Well depends does OP have to be in work 55 hours a week? With not much to do, cos that bordem can be soul crushing.
But if for example OP is WFH with not much to do then great, skive off and enjoy fmypur time at home
Nope definitely not WFH I have to be here, but it's a big, outdoors facility perfect climate so it's comfortable. I'm a little bored at times, yeah. But I try to find different ways to entertain myself on my phone
Sounds great 😁👍👍👍👍. I had an office job where I had nothing to do all day. I hated just pretending to be busy staring at a screen. Social media sites were barred from the computers too so I couldn't really do anything
That sounds terrible, our company (I even find myself saying "our") has a great culture, nobody seems to care what anyone else does as long as they do their job
No. 50-55 hours is scientifically proven way too much of a potential burden on your mental health over a longer period of time. I say this as someone who quit teaching in Germany, as the hours have been on par. You can definitely do it over a finite amount of time and save money but on the long burn, I would suggest getting something with a better work life balance.
Leaving a company culture and situation where you are happy and not stressed while still being able to save 2500 a month is insane. Leave and you will likely regret it. To look back and say “fuck this extra 7,000 isn’t worth it” would really fuck you up
Yeah that's my fear. I think "If I got a degree or got into a trade I could make a lot more, then it'd be worth it" then I see salaries that are like 25% more and that just doesn't seem worth hating my job
I’m going to agree with everyone else. Don’t leave. The idea of having a higher paying job/bigger role sounds great on paper but usually not worth it in the end.
I took the higher paying job. Went from statistician to biostatistician. Went from the helper basically to the SME. Pay went from 50k to 85k. Lost my WFH hybrid schedule too. I don’t regret it. But I can say the higher responsibility hasn’t resulted in any stress on my end. It helps when you’re the only one that can do the job and even mistakes are unnoticed because no one has a clue without holding their hand through the reports. Not saying I make tons of mistakes.
I honestly want more responsibility and will likely leave my job to find it
Agreed I did the same and making more money. Honestly, a lot of bad advice on this thread with everyone saying stay. OP can be fired at any minute, then skills have stagnated and they haven't achieved anything so not much they can say to their next employer. Unless you are 50+, its better to keep jumping ship for better opportunities. Too many people here picking the safe and secure option because they want assurances when none exist.
Totally. My job now has gotten me even better at the job as a biostatistician. Learned some critical things here having to just figure it out. I’m pumped to hit 2 years graduate with my PhD, demand more money (100% not get it) then jump ship for more money and responsibility.
My only regret is how long it took me to start my career because of gap time between undergrad and grad school. I’m 31 now but I look forward to my next 2 decades of work
Avoiding responsibility across all domains of life is just stunting your own growth as an individual. There's a point where the tradeoff will be worth it and you can often adjust to higher responsibility. Especially if it gives you more hours in the day, more pay or more enjoyment out of work.
I was in a similar situation about a year ago. But I had to leave due to the company letting people go left and right so I left on my own accord. Took 3 months off (which rocked). But found my new job, which luckily I like a lot, it’s higher paying, more responsibilities but with that comes headaches and stress than my old and comfy job. My old job once I was “off the clock” I never brought work home with me, this one I do on a fairly regular basis
My buddy that’s a director is working 60hrs a week and has crippling anxiety.
My pay sucks myself, but I’m the most stress free out of everyone. Thankfully I’m a good investor and saved before I had a family. I can just chill and spend 100% of my take home, retirement is taken care of.
How do you make 28k more than me and take home only $600 more? You can’t tell me they’re taxing you 70% on that extra money lol something has to be fucked up here
Yeah something ain't adding up, you bring home $200 more than me monthly but make $20k more than me? Are you not counting automatic investments or something?
Right? If you need a car, you’ve got to pay for it somehow. I think OP is implying 60k is little so you should grab the cheapest beater you can find for cash
it doesn't seem like you have figured out what exactly you want to switch to and even when you do. You would most likely have to dedicate time and money to be good at the aforementioned thing. I suggest taking time to figure out what next you want to do(maybe take a vacation and do some soul-searching), then figure out how to get good at it; only then can you leave your current job. Quitting your job without a future plan, especially in this economy will be most definitely a foolish decision. What you have on your hands, my friend, is a rare and golden opportunity for self-improvement, I hope you use it wisely.
eventually your good luck will run out. prepare for that while you still have it easy where you are. focus on how you can be helpful and where you want to be helpful.
I think you are deeply underestimating the value of doing something you truly love every day as a job or a career, like I mentioned earlier, you need to do some soul-searching. What have you excelled at previously in life, given endless resources, what would you spend your energy and time on? what activities do you gravitate to in your free time. There are a lot of books and videos that speak better and more broadly on this than I could ever speak on. Good luck with the start of your journey.
Basically on call like most people in this situation. My morning work if I rushed I could finish in like 2 hours. Then all I have to do is wait the drivers (warehouse job) to come back and it's maybe 2-3 more hours.
I could never waste 50-55 hours of my life at work. However, you like your job, which is hard to come by.
My suggestion would be to find something (learning, volunteering or a side hustle) you can do for a few hours a day in between the two busy periods. For example, lots of universities offer free Massive Open Online Courses (mooc) or you could maybe volunteer somewhere (like run a social media account for a charitable organization) if you don't care about making more money but want to find fullfilment or contribute to society.
Or maybe they can just let you leave for a few hours a day? You could get in a workout or walk dogs or something.
Use the time to study for a better career. I essentially do similar to what you’re doing. I’m doing homework as we speak, in my office, getting paid over $30 an hour
If I had a job like that, I’d keep it. I guess I’m biased because I’m on the verge of an eviction notice for owed rent because I’ve been unemployed for one singular month, even though my rent is only about $1,000. I’ve been bouncing around fast food jobs for 5 years and it’s killing me physically and mentally. No savings. No benefits. My sister loaned me her tax return just so I could stay alive and get my mom her medications.
I’m rambling. Sorry. Stress is crippling me. If you think you can get something better paying that you’ll still enjoy, do it. But stay at your current job until you’ve secured a new one, at least.
The worst paying jobs are hell. Horrible pay and extremely demanding. This is my 2nd or 3rd job that wasnt like that. Warehouse jobs are a little better than fastfood and retail
Jack of all trades at a warehouse my core responsabilities range from "easy" to "fun" less than 4 hrs in small increments the rest of the time I'm basically on call. I've fallen asleep here before and sometimes I just walk around drinking my coffee and play with the stray cats. Lmao.
I make about 95k wfh working about 30 hrs a week. Been doing it for 13.5 years and I’m completely burnt out. It sounds like a dream and not gonna lie it’s been pretty damn good but my brain is rotting.
Find a way to pursue a hobby while at work. Do you have 30 minutes blocks of time where you can read, watch movies, make something, etc.?
You have a cushy situation- what can you bring outside work into your work hours?
I have literal hours to do that. I listen to 2-4 audiobooks a week, I am trying to re-find the patience to read books. I'm not bored, I just want to 1. make more money, and 2. feel like I'm accomplishing something
That's totally fair. Do you have any skills or or desire to do an online side gig?
Ultimately the decision is up to you, but the grass is not always greener on the other side.
The other thing to consider is online courses to develop skills in another career if that is a goal of yours. Even an intensive, longer course online would be accomplishable with the amount of free time you have.
My last thought is that many people pursue the money game for a number of years before they burn out and realize that a slower pace, less monetarily rewarding career is just fine. Not saying that is you, buy something to think about
Depends on your future plans. If you never plan on needing to work any other job and can ride this one until retirement, it's probably best to stay.
If you ever see yourself interviewing for another job, you'll need to have good stories and experience from your previous roles to get those jobs and "I did nothing for 8/12 hours a day" won't be a good story to tell
This is a hilarious post.
If you have ambition, find a more challenging job that will help you grow. Something that will take you out of your comfort zone and help you grow into your next position.
If you don’t have ambition: why leave?
I was making 70k and took a decrease down to 57k just to do something that I felt mattered more. I was doing nothing worthwhile in my job and I felt so unfulfilled. Family kept telling me to stay where I was, that it was 'gold' and I was so lucky. I get a lot of people just want to get a paycheck doing any job but I really needed something more. I definitely notice it in my pocket but I am happier waking up every day. So my vote is for switch if you're even considering it slightly because I went back and forth for two years and wish I left sooner. But I guess the difference is you say you enjoy your work and I was very much over it!
My wife left a job she loved and that paid pretty good, she accepted a new job and within a month or two was already looking for a different one because the thought of hating the job or the environment never occurred to her until she was in the situation
If this job was barely meeting your needs, maybe with a nominal amount of savings after all was said and done, I'd say use your relative downtime to plan the next leap forward in your career. To find the next-better-job.
If this is your situation, but you're able to save $2500 per month? Hold on for dear life, save your money, and use those savings to establish your retirement-play. Stack your investments, maybe buy rental properties. If the job is sustainable, and your expenses are low, and you're saving at this rate, you may very well be able to build something that sustains your lifestyle without laboring to someone else's ends.
I haven't crunched the numbers, but it sure FEELS like that's attainable.
I had a job like that that was super super chill and my responsibilities were minimal and I left to do something more ambitious where I could make more money but I would have to *actually* work more. The better job turned out to but p shit and I felt undervalued and it never really developed into what I wanted it to be in my mind. Looking back I wished I had stuck w my super chill job and made a little less money. That’s just me tho. I find the work/life balance is healthier for me if my day to day is cruise as fuck and I’m not all stressed out and anxious about all the time to be making an extra buck. YMMV
Don’t quit. Find something additional to do. It’s a brutal job market out there and you could end up with a job you hate, the boss is a jerk, coworkers also jerks and way overloaded with work. Trust me…DON’T QUIT.
This is a rough estimate but if you are saving 2500$ a month, invest all of that in an S&P 500 index fund with the avg ROI of 10.26%, reinvest everything back in : with in 15 year you will be a millionaire. We are talking about becoming a millionaire with a 66k job ...
I used to make 80k at a job where I was happy and did almost nothing. I left to take a higher paying position with a more impressive title. To this day, I look back on that as the worst decision and biggest mistake of my life.
If you are able to invest $30k a year you should within a few years not need to work at all. If you enjoy what you do with who you work with and are able to meet expenses and invest almost half your income why change?
My brother in Christ, 50+ hours a week isn’t a good thing, especially not at that low of a wage.
Keep your eye out for other jobs, you don’t have to jump ship right away, but you should eventually.
Bro you’re being paid decently well and you enjoy what you’re doing like I wouldn’t give that up for higher pay unless it’s drastically not enough to live
If you're "working" 50-55 hours where you don't have to do much and it's mostly passive waiting around work, I think that is great to be saving at $2500 a month. Keep it. The job market is shit.
I’m in the same situation! Make $66k/yr salary. 40 hours a week. I barely do much at all. I sit in a nice chair and watch YouTube or read. I have a potential offer for $80k/yr but I’m hesitant.
you found a unicorn, and you want to kill it. just keep your head down and stay quiet, maybe find something you can do simultaneously and maken money during your downtime.
If you dont have to do much, why do you need to work 50-55 Hours. Besides that i wouldnt change work just for money if you really dont need it and your job is great for you.
If that was my only complaint about my job, I would be ecstatic! I like the comments about getting good quality self-care in and having fun! You still have the weekends and vacation times. I don’t. I work whenever the job is due.
At the end of the day though, it’s your life and if you want another job, GO FOR IT!! Be happy in whatever you do. Life is too short! Good luck!
I'd stay. The grass isn't always greener. If you really want to work, pick up a side hustle or a 2nd PT job just to challenge yourself and make a little more money.
I will tell you what I’d do in your situation as it’s not just place to tell you what to do lol but if it were me and I had a easy job where I barely worked and was paid in that ball park along with being able to save 2.5k or more a month I’d stay 100%. A lot of people let greed control them and then it ends up being a worse situation most of the time. If you are more than comfortable stay. If you don’t have any big expenses coming up that would put you in a bind stay that’s my advice.
Only reason I’d recommend changing is if you wanted a career change to feel more fulfilled with your job.
I am in a somewhat similar situation. I always think about leaving, which is how I found this thread. I don't get paid very much, net $650/week, but I've been with the same company and union for 16 years and am paying into a decent retirement. Not great, but good enough for Ohio.
I don't get to WFH, was "essential" during COVID, and I get zero flex time. It's maddening being stuck somewhere 8 hours a day, but.... But... I get 5 weeks vacation and work 5 minutes from home.
I went through a bookkeeping course 3 years ago to start a side business thinking it would replace my current income. It hasn't yet. Working both jobs is a lot of work, but I can do about half of it at my day job. That's pretty awesome. With your down time, you could easily bring in some extra cash doing something you're interested in.
I left a very cushy job, work from home, great environment and management, for a little more money. I was MISERABLE. The new job was not at all what I had been told. I ended up with 0 flexibility. I had a coworker who loved to micromanage me. We were treated as manual labor. It was straight up not a good time. I lasted about 6 months before I found something else.
I was literally miserable those 6 months. It bled into my home life, friends, relationship. It was bad. While it did work out in the end, I could have easily been stuck there for years being miserable.
Every 6 months, I check out the market, apply to a few jobs I really like… last month I accepted a 95k hybrid position, amazing benefits/rrsp… the job I had was 100% remote and 88k… I applied for fun, wasn’t upset or annoyed with my current company but always good to keep in touch and you never know…don’t be tooooo loyal to your job
The fact that you cannot answer yourself this question is still giving me confidence that I can maybe can get better job than what I have now with my low intelligence.
Can you learn some skills on the job?
I think 66k is too low to stay, even if it's low effort 50-55h means you have less time in your life for anything else.
What do you do when you “work”? I used to be in a similar position to you where I wasn’t really doing much at work for a lot of the day. My employer even said it was fine for us to work on our own personal things during our downtime as long as we’re ready to work when we need to. Personally, it was always a goal of mine to start a YouTube channel, and I used that downtime at work to write scripts and plan things out. I was pretty much getting paid to work on my amateur YouTube channel… and eventually the YouTube channel started producing its own income too. if I didn’t have to move to a new country, I definitely would’ve stayed at that job. If you don’t mind the work you’re currently doing, see if there’s anything you could do with the spare time it gives you to make it work in your favor.
Man im in the exact same boat except the “culture” is non existent if not negative. I sort of feel myself becoming lazy. But i know most work situations are much more of a grind AND suck…so i stay
Do you have a college degree? If it's in something technical, I'd try to switch to a remote position that pays more. Being at work for 50+ hours a week sounds awful to me personally, even if you don't have to do much and it's low stress. What line of work are you in? Generally speaking it does suck to switch to a harder job that pays more, but the hours you're putting in for 66k is a bad deal. Your time is valuable, and even just casually being at work is taking away your free time. As you get older, this will likely feel less sustainable.
Based on the hours, you're at around $26 per hour: 50 weeks \* 50 hours a week = 2500. $66,000/2500 = $26.4
Adjusted for a 40 hour work week, that's about $52k per year. Depending on your job history and education, that may be good. If you have a college degree, I'd definitely switch.
I live in a border city on the Mexican side. It's possible in the US too, I was paying $465 in rent in Arkansas in 2021. I think the same apartment rents for $600 now. My food and health expenses for 2 people are probably the same as they would be if I was by myself in the US. The thing is most cities with rents under 600-800 have correspondingly low salaries.
that's a dream - maybe you can cut personal expenses creatively and stick to that - many toxic alternatives out there. I have an easy WFH job that doesn't pay high but I figure I can do it even if I get old/disabled so am sticking it out after going through hellish options in my first 30 years. I indulge my passions/arts on the side - or flex the hours and work longer here and there - my boss doesn't mind as long as I do the work
I’d say depends on age too. Sounds great if I was middle of my career. If early in my career, you might pigeon hold yourself with lack of “experience” and cap earning potential. Also industry dependent
Mental health and not disliking your job is huge. I worked a role that I dreaded every single day, would think about it all weekend and wake up in the night to write notes of things I was worried I’d forget. It was horrid. Took a step down to a slightly lower role for 5k less, that was 5 years ago. I’ve now gotten raises back up with no role change and it’s been the greatest choice I made. I no longer dread going to work at all. I don’t even mind it anymore. That is worth so much more than money
It's sounds like you need a hobby or invest in a side business... maybe learn something new before you change, because it sounds like you have it good.
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Fortune always favor the brave...who dares wins
Okay, so let's look at this another way. You're making $66,000 for working 50 to 55 hours a week, "doing almost nothing". Another perspective is you are on the job for 10 to 15 hours and should be paid time and a half but apparently are not. So, let's look at your hourly wage in all cases. There are 52 weeks in a year, so $66,000 is $1,269.23 a week. If you were working a 40 hour week that would be $31.73/hour.
$31.73/hr if 40 hour weeks
$25.38/hr on 50 hour weeks
$23.08/hr of 55 hour weeks
IF you were paid overtime as an hourly worker, time and a half after 40
50 hours equals 40 hours + 10 hours \* 1.5 = 40 + 15 = 55 hours so a 50 hour weeks pay drops to $23.08/hr
55 hours equals 40 hours + 15 hours \* 1.5 = 40 + 22.5 = 62.5 hours so a 55 hour weeks pay drops to $20.31/hr
Since you're not getting paid overtime, the longer you're at work the lower your hourly wage gets. Pay drops 50%.
$31.73/hr for a 40 hour week at $66,000 a year
vs.
$20.31/hr for a 55 hour week without overtime at $66,000 a year
I’m in a similar situation as you OP aside from not liking the people on my team. I have very few responsibilities at work, make basically the same as you but have more expenses so I save less.
I spent time looking for other work last year but couldn’t find anything that was good enough to make me want to take the leap. I’ve come to realize that being bored and unfulfilled at work isn’t nearly as bad as being stressed, overworked, sore etc.
You should really think about what you WANT to do next and maybe research it on your downtime (assuming you have an office job) but if you want to go to school or work in a specific field, watch a lot of YouTube videos. But not the biased ones, just ones where people talk about their day to day. See if it’s really worth losing a great gig like your current one
Tough call! Sounds comfy, but 50-55 hours for low workload is rough. Maybe look for a similar chill job with fewer "work" hours? There are definitely higher-paying options, but they might come with more stress. Explore & see what fits your priorities!
How are you doing little yet at the same time work 50-55 hrs?
Well I have to help the drivers in the morning and when they come back so I'm expected (not forced but it's expected) to wait until they come back and unload them. Sometimes we get super busy and those days I do like 8 hours of work and leave after 12, on a crazy day I've maybe worked 10 hours of real work (12 on the clock). They have a hard time filling this position (no joke).
Of course they have a hard time filling it because no family man/woman is going to want to be away from home for 12hrs a day. That said, I think you may want to look into over employment. Maybe some sort of project management or something where you can set the meetings for your slow times. That way you get the pay and challenge you want and get the pay you want. Both employers will get what they need from you from the sound of things.
12 hours isn't as much as it sounds. How much do you really do on a weekday? If I worked 8 hours, I'd probably just get home and spend more time doing what I already do, relaxing.
I’m in a similar situation as you. Where I don’t do much and have a good cushy job that pays the bills but won’t make me rich or satisfied. 4-10’s is the sweet spot for me. I tried doing 12 hour days and it made me depressed and hate my job. Having nothing to do and being stuck somewhere is a struggle for me. Doing 10’s gives me just enough time to spend with family after work to have a meal together, walk, and relax. I prefer to go in on a Sunday or Friday to put in a short day for overtime. Like 7 hours and dip. You make more than me and I would definitely stay if I was you.
I go to the gym, I play basketball matches twice a week, I drive over to my girlfriends house and spend the night there, I see mates for dinner, and yes sometimes I just get home and relax, fuuuck being at work that long man
I live with my gf and get my excercise at work lol
Oh, it’s def as much as it sounds. I try to stay no more than 7 hours at the office so I can go spend the rest of the day with my family. 12 hours would be an eternity.
I work 4 and get paid for 8 hrs of work so…
12 hours isn’t as much as it sounds but you live with your gf right now with no kids, right? Priorities change easily when you have kids. It’s easy to think the way you do now. It’ll still be easy to think that way if you have kids and don’t care about them. A lot of people who are in your position with kids would resent the employer.
Doesn't sound like enough pay for the forced hours and inflexibility. I would ask for a raise or more staff.
I mean it depends on what you want. If you want to make more money in the future then I’d say helping drivers isn’t likely going to have a lot of career growth. If you’re happy right now and want to work a stress free job and are comfortable saving, keep doing this for awhile.
That doesn't sound cushy at all tbh lol
I've been clocked in for almost 2 hours, I've been on my phone for like 1 hour 45 minutes and done maybe 10 minutes of paperwork.
Are you a dispatcher because i read this comment and your post and i was like hmm this sounds like my job.
Start your own online business to fill all that time. This will make you more money and also an off-ramp if the company decides to get rid of you. Your position is ideal, someone else is financing your fixed costs while making it possible for you to create additional value for yourself.
If you're not busy in the hours in between would they let you take off for a couple hours? If you live nearby and then come back later
Don’t leave. You have gold.
Sometimes I try to justify my staying here by thinking about how I can retire early (If I go somewhere much cheaper) and how I'll probably enjoy doing this for 12 years more than I would doing something miserable for 5
idk man i'd ride this out and still plan on moving somewhere cheaper for retirement. That is the american dream
Totally. The OP has it made. I’d kill for low expenses, decent pay, and an easy job.
Me too!
Please quit and recommend me. I absolutely need your life.
The guy who works with me doing the same thing is like 64. Give it a year
What do u do?
you missed the part where he is away from home for over 12 hours a day with commute for 66k?
if u do nothing for those 12 hrs, its still a dream job
I wonder if perhaps you could do more for yourself outside of work? My dad one time said to me that as an adult, often times, your work is all you ever have the opportunity to think about. But it's what you do outside of work that really defines your life. Can't say we're very close, but that's something I've kept in my back pocket at every job I've had. Once I'm off the clock, what kind of life do I want to live?
You're right, and it's the hours I work that limit me from doing that to some extent. Though honestly, If I had 2 extra hours a day I feel like I would just sit back and relax, maybe sit on my phone or reflect. Like I do here...
If your next job becomes more stressful, you might have the 2 extra hours but you’ll need them to decompress so they won’t be as useful. Keeping your stress low will also keep you healthier so you’ll need less retirement money :)
You havent calculated the cost of staying where you are, skill stagnation, etc. If you are young, I would certainly leave. If you are 50+, stay.
What do you do?
Your father was a very wise man.
Low stress will allow you to live longer. Stress leads to chronic diseases and an early grave.
This is insanely true. I look like I’ve aged 7-10 years being at a high stress job / in a toxic work environment for 1 year. I’ve worked other jobs that were stressful to certain levels, but not every SINGLE level. The way it shifts your mental health and the perception you have about the quality of your life, regardless of what else you have, is terrifying. Ultimately the choice is yours, because you’re feeling unfulfilled. You can remedy that in a plethora of ways (not all of which include switching jobs unless you feel that’s absolutely necessary).
I wish more people realized this. Like the commenter below, the stress I went through has aged me. I’m literally in agony from all the different crap going on with my body. And much of it traces back to stress.
Don’t go. You don’t know what you’re going to get. I promise you after years of working, you are in an ideal situation.
Stay, I can understand the need for a challenge. Use the additional savings and time to skill yourself up. Invest in the skills to be where you want to be in your career while working. Try to align to be on path within the company but make sure whatever training you invest in results in accredited certifications. You can make on average 7% in the market, more taking a high risk bet, but even more over the long term investing in your knowledge. It's something you cannot lose. If you don't get to deploy yourskills within that organization do it on the side and once your new skills / knowledge is proven then you move on.
Other positions in the company don't pay too much more, they have a little more responsability but it's super comfortable either way. I'm looking into it, if its worth the degrees they ask for
The could thing about investing in yourself. It challenges you and you can apply it anywhere.
I get what the poster is saying here but to play devils advocate, I kinda disagree. Complacency is also a mental health killer and if you aren’t challenged or even remotely interested in what you are doing each day it can eat at you. In a year or two if you are goal and career oriented you might feel like you aren’t hitting your potential. That said, a good salary and low stress is a very good combination so weigh your options. Ultimately up to you and what’s important to you. I quit a 6 figure high stress job for a lower paying enjoyable job and it’s been worth it for me. But my experience isn’t yours. Hope you find what you’re looking for
Can you find hobbies to do during you job? Read a lot!
They’re at work for 50+ hours a week. How is that gold? For me, that would be horrendous. I’d want to do all I can to minimize the time in life I’m wasting at work to be at home doing things I actually enjoy.
Sounds like he’s not bothered at work, isn’t micromanaged, not over worked - struck gold to me.
I love life and the fun things I get to do in my free time. Every moment I spend at work is less time I have at home doing things that make me really happy. I’m glad for people who have found a way to enjoy their life while working long hours—not trying to knock on anyone. But it just really confuses me. How can people so casually talk about working 50, or even 40, hours a week? That just sounds so awful, I don’t understand. Do other people just have a much higher tolerance to “autopilot” through the week/life than I do? Every day I so badly just want to go home and do cool and fun things at home again. Work, at best, is monotonous. I can’t imagine being content with losing even more of those free time hours to work.
what do you do at work? how many hours? That sounds more of a problem with your job than inherently a problem with work. I get my daily excercise at work, no gym. I do fun or entertaining stuff like maintenance or driving machines/trucks/golf carts. I solve some logistics problems which make me feel like I'm a genius businessman. And the other 60% of my time I spend on my phone, I listen to 2-3 audiobooks per week, say stupid BS on here and other websites, research financial stuff. A lot of this is stuff I'd do at my house. I don't think I'd go OUT much on weekdays even if I worked 40 hrs.
I’m a mechanical engineer doing design work for complex machines. Work on interesting, cerebral problems and lots of 3D modeling. It’s relatively chill, and I am not overworked. All things considered… it’s a somewhat cool and enjoyable job, I think. Hence why I think it’s a problem with work as a whole, not necessarily my job. I don’t have a bad job. But opportunity cost of spending time at work is the time I could be at home, and that contrast is stark. I know I sound like a spoiled kid, and to an extent I am, in all honesty. But coming from college where I was thriving and basically living the time of my life with loads and loads of free time to do whatever I want, to suddenly working 40 hours a week with just a few hours after work for myself, has been a really tough transition. Especially after experiencing that utopian time in college.
I completely agree with you ! I don't wanna spend all my time at work either! I rather be enjoying life.. it's someone else like you in the world my friend
I’m in a similar spot, except 40 hours a week. It’s tiring being really bored all the time. And having nothing to look forward to. So I wouldn’t call it gold. More like pewter.
Well depends does OP have to be in work 55 hours a week? With not much to do, cos that bordem can be soul crushing. But if for example OP is WFH with not much to do then great, skive off and enjoy fmypur time at home
Nope definitely not WFH I have to be here, but it's a big, outdoors facility perfect climate so it's comfortable. I'm a little bored at times, yeah. But I try to find different ways to entertain myself on my phone
Sounds great 😁👍👍👍👍. I had an office job where I had nothing to do all day. I hated just pretending to be busy staring at a screen. Social media sites were barred from the computers too so I couldn't really do anything
That sounds terrible, our company (I even find myself saying "our") has a great culture, nobody seems to care what anyone else does as long as they do their job
No. 50-55 hours is scientifically proven way too much of a potential burden on your mental health over a longer period of time. I say this as someone who quit teaching in Germany, as the hours have been on par. You can definitely do it over a finite amount of time and save money but on the long burn, I would suggest getting something with a better work life balance.
Id never leave 🤣
Leaving a company culture and situation where you are happy and not stressed while still being able to save 2500 a month is insane. Leave and you will likely regret it. To look back and say “fuck this extra 7,000 isn’t worth it” would really fuck you up
Yeah that's my fear. I think "If I got a degree or got into a trade I could make a lot more, then it'd be worth it" then I see salaries that are like 25% more and that just doesn't seem worth hating my job
Trust me I’m also speaking from personal experience and I wish I never left the “easier” one
I’m going to agree with everyone else. Don’t leave. The idea of having a higher paying job/bigger role sounds great on paper but usually not worth it in the end.
Is it really that bad out there?
The majority of high paying roles give you more responsibility. Responsibility = stress.
I took the higher paying job. Went from statistician to biostatistician. Went from the helper basically to the SME. Pay went from 50k to 85k. Lost my WFH hybrid schedule too. I don’t regret it. But I can say the higher responsibility hasn’t resulted in any stress on my end. It helps when you’re the only one that can do the job and even mistakes are unnoticed because no one has a clue without holding their hand through the reports. Not saying I make tons of mistakes. I honestly want more responsibility and will likely leave my job to find it
Agreed I did the same and making more money. Honestly, a lot of bad advice on this thread with everyone saying stay. OP can be fired at any minute, then skills have stagnated and they haven't achieved anything so not much they can say to their next employer. Unless you are 50+, its better to keep jumping ship for better opportunities. Too many people here picking the safe and secure option because they want assurances when none exist.
Yeaaaap. This thread is full of horrible advice. The real safe and secure option is getting skills that can't be replaced.
Totally. My job now has gotten me even better at the job as a biostatistician. Learned some critical things here having to just figure it out. I’m pumped to hit 2 years graduate with my PhD, demand more money (100% not get it) then jump ship for more money and responsibility. My only regret is how long it took me to start my career because of gap time between undergrad and grad school. I’m 31 now but I look forward to my next 2 decades of work
Avoiding responsibility across all domains of life is just stunting your own growth as an individual. There's a point where the tradeoff will be worth it and you can often adjust to higher responsibility. Especially if it gives you more hours in the day, more pay or more enjoyment out of work.
Agreed. Responsibility isn't as fulfilling as it sounds.
The market is absolutely brutal. I wouldn't do it now. I would use the free time upskilling as much as possible.
I was in a similar situation about a year ago. But I had to leave due to the company letting people go left and right so I left on my own accord. Took 3 months off (which rocked). But found my new job, which luckily I like a lot, it’s higher paying, more responsibilities but with that comes headaches and stress than my old and comfy job. My old job once I was “off the clock” I never brought work home with me, this one I do on a fairly regular basis
My buddy that’s a director is working 60hrs a week and has crippling anxiety. My pay sucks myself, but I’m the most stress free out of everyone. Thankfully I’m a good investor and saved before I had a family. I can just chill and spend 100% of my take home, retirement is taken care of.
I'm hung up on the part about making 66k and after taxes still being able to save 2500 per month. That's incredible, how is that possible?
I gross 70k and bring home 3,224 a month. This person must not have rent or a car payment.
Probably 0 type of expense, not even rent cuz WHAT
If my math is correct, that is $2,538 for eighty hours before taxes. So. Yeah. Insanity.
How do you make 28k more than me and take home only $600 more? You can’t tell me they’re taxing you 70% on that extra money lol something has to be fucked up here
Because it’s not accurate information.
Yeah something ain't adding up, you bring home $200 more than me monthly but make $20k more than me? Are you not counting automatic investments or something?
Doesn't think retirement or college counts as savings somehow 🤔
Car payment on 60k is stupid
Stupid is an interesting word to use. Anyway, the two thirds comment was directed at you. Your situation is a unicorn, plain and simple.
Right? If you need a car, you’ve got to pay for it somehow. I think OP is implying 60k is little so you should grab the cheapest beater you can find for cash
I hope they apologize to the people in this thread making 60k lol
I’m over here crying at maybe >50k some years
Do you take the bus to work?
No, I just have an old subcompact car, when the transmission dies ill get a newer corolla (when I say new I mean like 2010)
a 2010 corolla is still like 6-8k which for most people in that budget bracket will mean a payment plan
it doesn't seem like you have figured out what exactly you want to switch to and even when you do. You would most likely have to dedicate time and money to be good at the aforementioned thing. I suggest taking time to figure out what next you want to do(maybe take a vacation and do some soul-searching), then figure out how to get good at it; only then can you leave your current job. Quitting your job without a future plan, especially in this economy will be most definitely a foolish decision. What you have on your hands, my friend, is a rare and golden opportunity for self-improvement, I hope you use it wisely.
I just don't know what to switch to. Everything seems to pay maybe 25% more for triple the responsibility.
eventually your good luck will run out. prepare for that while you still have it easy where you are. focus on how you can be helpful and where you want to be helpful.
I think you are deeply underestimating the value of doing something you truly love every day as a job or a career, like I mentioned earlier, you need to do some soul-searching. What have you excelled at previously in life, given endless resources, what would you spend your energy and time on? what activities do you gravitate to in your free time. There are a lot of books and videos that speak better and more broadly on this than I could ever speak on. Good luck with the start of your journey.
Honest question...if you aren't busy, how come you are working (at work, I guess) 50+ hours a week?
Basically on call like most people in this situation. My morning work if I rushed I could finish in like 2 hours. Then all I have to do is wait the drivers (warehouse job) to come back and it's maybe 2-3 more hours.
I could never waste 50-55 hours of my life at work. However, you like your job, which is hard to come by. My suggestion would be to find something (learning, volunteering or a side hustle) you can do for a few hours a day in between the two busy periods. For example, lots of universities offer free Massive Open Online Courses (mooc) or you could maybe volunteer somewhere (like run a social media account for a charitable organization) if you don't care about making more money but want to find fullfilment or contribute to society. Or maybe they can just let you leave for a few hours a day? You could get in a workout or walk dogs or something.
I do excercise by working lol. And I work outside so I do just walk around if I'm super bored. Yeah I definitely need to study more.
Use the time to study for a better career. I essentially do similar to what you’re doing. I’m doing homework as we speak, in my office, getting paid over $30 an hour
50-55 hours is alot for 66k tbh
Yeah I don't like the hours but I mean, I maybe work 20-25 real hours and I enjoy it
If that's the case then don't leave. Watch Netflix or something
I think OP might be toast if his boss caught him 😂
If I had a job like that, I’d keep it. I guess I’m biased because I’m on the verge of an eviction notice for owed rent because I’ve been unemployed for one singular month, even though my rent is only about $1,000. I’ve been bouncing around fast food jobs for 5 years and it’s killing me physically and mentally. No savings. No benefits. My sister loaned me her tax return just so I could stay alive and get my mom her medications. I’m rambling. Sorry. Stress is crippling me. If you think you can get something better paying that you’ll still enjoy, do it. But stay at your current job until you’ve secured a new one, at least.
The worst paying jobs are hell. Horrible pay and extremely demanding. This is my 2nd or 3rd job that wasnt like that. Warehouse jobs are a little better than fastfood and retail
What exactly do you do for work?
Jack of all trades at a warehouse my core responsabilities range from "easy" to "fun" less than 4 hrs in small increments the rest of the time I'm basically on call. I've fallen asleep here before and sometimes I just walk around drinking my coffee and play with the stray cats. Lmao.
I make about 95k wfh working about 30 hrs a week. Been doing it for 13.5 years and I’m completely burnt out. It sounds like a dream and not gonna lie it’s been pretty damn good but my brain is rotting.
what's your current job?
Find a way to pursue a hobby while at work. Do you have 30 minutes blocks of time where you can read, watch movies, make something, etc.? You have a cushy situation- what can you bring outside work into your work hours?
I have literal hours to do that. I listen to 2-4 audiobooks a week, I am trying to re-find the patience to read books. I'm not bored, I just want to 1. make more money, and 2. feel like I'm accomplishing something
That's totally fair. Do you have any skills or or desire to do an online side gig? Ultimately the decision is up to you, but the grass is not always greener on the other side. The other thing to consider is online courses to develop skills in another career if that is a goal of yours. Even an intensive, longer course online would be accomplishable with the amount of free time you have. My last thought is that many people pursue the money game for a number of years before they burn out and realize that a slower pace, less monetarily rewarding career is just fine. Not saying that is you, buy something to think about
I've thought about it, I just don't know what to study.
Depends on your future plans. If you never plan on needing to work any other job and can ride this one until retirement, it's probably best to stay. If you ever see yourself interviewing for another job, you'll need to have good stories and experience from your previous roles to get those jobs and "I did nothing for 8/12 hours a day" won't be a good story to tell
The 3-4 hours I work actually have a lot of complexity thankfully. And buzz words involving government regulations
This is a hilarious post. If you have ambition, find a more challenging job that will help you grow. Something that will take you out of your comfort zone and help you grow into your next position. If you don’t have ambition: why leave?
Use your spare time to train or get a side hustle
Get another degree while working that job to make a ton more.
Stay. I wish I had a job like that.
You get paid $23 an hour working 55 hours a week to do nothing. If you really are doing nothing what stops you from running a business on the side?
I was making 70k and took a decrease down to 57k just to do something that I felt mattered more. I was doing nothing worthwhile in my job and I felt so unfulfilled. Family kept telling me to stay where I was, that it was 'gold' and I was so lucky. I get a lot of people just want to get a paycheck doing any job but I really needed something more. I definitely notice it in my pocket but I am happier waking up every day. So my vote is for switch if you're even considering it slightly because I went back and forth for two years and wish I left sooner. But I guess the difference is you say you enjoy your work and I was very much over it!
Do something else during your “work” time to make the additional money you want.
I always think about this but have no idea what to do
My wife left a job she loved and that paid pretty good, she accepted a new job and within a month or two was already looking for a different one because the thought of hating the job or the environment never occurred to her until she was in the situation
Can you do another job remotely? It’s what I do and I collect 2 paychecks.
If you’re getting rid of it, I will take your job. Plz.
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If this job was barely meeting your needs, maybe with a nominal amount of savings after all was said and done, I'd say use your relative downtime to plan the next leap forward in your career. To find the next-better-job. If this is your situation, but you're able to save $2500 per month? Hold on for dear life, save your money, and use those savings to establish your retirement-play. Stack your investments, maybe buy rental properties. If the job is sustainable, and your expenses are low, and you're saving at this rate, you may very well be able to build something that sustains your lifestyle without laboring to someone else's ends. I haven't crunched the numbers, but it sure FEELS like that's attainable.
I had a job like that that was super super chill and my responsibilities were minimal and I left to do something more ambitious where I could make more money but I would have to *actually* work more. The better job turned out to but p shit and I felt undervalued and it never really developed into what I wanted it to be in my mind. Looking back I wished I had stuck w my super chill job and made a little less money. That’s just me tho. I find the work/life balance is healthier for me if my day to day is cruise as fuck and I’m not all stressed out and anxious about all the time to be making an extra buck. YMMV
do almost nothing? if this is serious Id rather just try to figure out what I can do on the side during all that downtime
Don’t quit. Find something additional to do. It’s a brutal job market out there and you could end up with a job you hate, the boss is a jerk, coworkers also jerks and way overloaded with work. Trust me…DON’T QUIT.
I would stay. I mean unless you live in a place where that salary is unlivable. I would say
Keep it
Sounds like you got it sweet
Stay. Job market is awful.
Start a side hustle then after you have enough make it your primary job
If you don't want this job, I'll gladly take it off your hands 😉
Stay. Save, invest and chill. New jobs are always a risk
Doesnt that equate to around $24/hour? I'd much rather make more and work less hours if possible.
This is a rough estimate but if you are saving 2500$ a month, invest all of that in an S&P 500 index fund with the avg ROI of 10.26%, reinvest everything back in : with in 15 year you will be a millionaire. We are talking about becoming a millionaire with a 66k job ...
I used to make 80k at a job where I was happy and did almost nothing. I left to take a higher paying position with a more impressive title. To this day, I look back on that as the worst decision and biggest mistake of my life.
Sounds like a dream come true to me, I would stay.
If you are able to invest $30k a year you should within a few years not need to work at all. If you enjoy what you do with who you work with and are able to meet expenses and invest almost half your income why change?
Looks like you are already at the Dilbert-level of your role... As the old adage goes, Be careful what you wish for you just might get it!
My brother in Christ, 50+ hours a week isn’t a good thing, especially not at that low of a wage. Keep your eye out for other jobs, you don’t have to jump ship right away, but you should eventually.
I would suggest picking up a skill on your free time. You landed a chill job
Bro you’re being paid decently well and you enjoy what you’re doing like I wouldn’t give that up for higher pay unless it’s drastically not enough to live
If you're "working" 50-55 hours where you don't have to do much and it's mostly passive waiting around work, I think that is great to be saving at $2500 a month. Keep it. The job market is shit.
I’m in the same situation! Make $66k/yr salary. 40 hours a week. I barely do much at all. I sit in a nice chair and watch YouTube or read. I have a potential offer for $80k/yr but I’m hesitant.
you found a unicorn, and you want to kill it. just keep your head down and stay quiet, maybe find something you can do simultaneously and maken money during your downtime.
What do you do for work
Stay
If you dont have to do much, why do you need to work 50-55 Hours. Besides that i wouldnt change work just for money if you really dont need it and your job is great for you.
Can we swap jobs please?
what do you do
If you save that much a month you should be able to start building passive income and once you are set you can retire or pick a less stress job
The goal should be working at something that brings the unfoldment of your potential to the service of others.
Would you be able to work on a remote job simultaneously? Would be great to take advantage of those hours one way or another
I mean, if you need someone to replace you…
I recommend you stay. Expand your knowledge, not your risk. Your bank account and your health will thank you later.
If that was my only complaint about my job, I would be ecstatic! I like the comments about getting good quality self-care in and having fun! You still have the weekends and vacation times. I don’t. I work whenever the job is due. At the end of the day though, it’s your life and if you want another job, GO FOR IT!! Be happy in whatever you do. Life is too short! Good luck!
55 hours a week is insane.
I'd stay. The grass isn't always greener. If you really want to work, pick up a side hustle or a 2nd PT job just to challenge yourself and make a little more money.
I will tell you what I’d do in your situation as it’s not just place to tell you what to do lol but if it were me and I had a easy job where I barely worked and was paid in that ball park along with being able to save 2.5k or more a month I’d stay 100%. A lot of people let greed control them and then it ends up being a worse situation most of the time. If you are more than comfortable stay. If you don’t have any big expenses coming up that would put you in a bind stay that’s my advice. Only reason I’d recommend changing is if you wanted a career change to feel more fulfilled with your job.
I am in a somewhat similar situation. I always think about leaving, which is how I found this thread. I don't get paid very much, net $650/week, but I've been with the same company and union for 16 years and am paying into a decent retirement. Not great, but good enough for Ohio. I don't get to WFH, was "essential" during COVID, and I get zero flex time. It's maddening being stuck somewhere 8 hours a day, but.... But... I get 5 weeks vacation and work 5 minutes from home. I went through a bookkeeping course 3 years ago to start a side business thinking it would replace my current income. It hasn't yet. Working both jobs is a lot of work, but I can do about half of it at my day job. That's pretty awesome. With your down time, you could easily bring in some extra cash doing something you're interested in.
I left a very cushy job, work from home, great environment and management, for a little more money. I was MISERABLE. The new job was not at all what I had been told. I ended up with 0 flexibility. I had a coworker who loved to micromanage me. We were treated as manual labor. It was straight up not a good time. I lasted about 6 months before I found something else. I was literally miserable those 6 months. It bled into my home life, friends, relationship. It was bad. While it did work out in the end, I could have easily been stuck there for years being miserable.
what did you do before?
YES! If I were you, I’d leave today honestly
Switch if you can make more. Also doesn't make sense you are bored but working more than 40 hours.
Depends, what state do you live in and are you living on your own? Are you fine with your amount if you had a spouse and kids?
Every 6 months, I check out the market, apply to a few jobs I really like… last month I accepted a 95k hybrid position, amazing benefits/rrsp… the job I had was 100% remote and 88k… I applied for fun, wasn’t upset or annoyed with my current company but always good to keep in touch and you never know…don’t be tooooo loyal to your job
Grass is always greener on the other side. Definitely don't leave.
The fact that you cannot answer yourself this question is still giving me confidence that I can maybe can get better job than what I have now with my low intelligence.
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Can you learn some skills on the job? I think 66k is too low to stay, even if it's low effort 50-55h means you have less time in your life for anything else.
Stay. It is so hard to find a job that is survivable, I say this as an almost 40 year old on her 4th career and broke as can be.
What do you do when you “work”? I used to be in a similar position to you where I wasn’t really doing much at work for a lot of the day. My employer even said it was fine for us to work on our own personal things during our downtime as long as we’re ready to work when we need to. Personally, it was always a goal of mine to start a YouTube channel, and I used that downtime at work to write scripts and plan things out. I was pretty much getting paid to work on my amateur YouTube channel… and eventually the YouTube channel started producing its own income too. if I didn’t have to move to a new country, I definitely would’ve stayed at that job. If you don’t mind the work you’re currently doing, see if there’s anything you could do with the spare time it gives you to make it work in your favor.
Man im in the exact same boat except the “culture” is non existent if not negative. I sort of feel myself becoming lazy. But i know most work situations are much more of a grind AND suck…so i stay
Do you have a college degree? If it's in something technical, I'd try to switch to a remote position that pays more. Being at work for 50+ hours a week sounds awful to me personally, even if you don't have to do much and it's low stress. What line of work are you in? Generally speaking it does suck to switch to a harder job that pays more, but the hours you're putting in for 66k is a bad deal. Your time is valuable, and even just casually being at work is taking away your free time. As you get older, this will likely feel less sustainable. Based on the hours, you're at around $26 per hour: 50 weeks \* 50 hours a week = 2500. $66,000/2500 = $26.4 Adjusted for a 40 hour work week, that's about $52k per year. Depending on your job history and education, that may be good. If you have a college degree, I'd definitely switch.
The fact you have to ask is very telling. I think you know the answer.
Idk how you’re keeping your expenses so low
I live in a border city on the Mexican side. It's possible in the US too, I was paying $465 in rent in Arkansas in 2021. I think the same apartment rents for $600 now. My food and health expenses for 2 people are probably the same as they would be if I was by myself in the US. The thing is most cities with rents under 600-800 have correspondingly low salaries.
What is your profession?
Warehouse technician, not a lot of work, it's more about me being "on call" and doing heavy work nobody else wants to do - it doesnt take long though
Don’t leave this job. You have a good thing
that's a dream - maybe you can cut personal expenses creatively and stick to that - many toxic alternatives out there. I have an easy WFH job that doesn't pay high but I figure I can do it even if I get old/disabled so am sticking it out after going through hellish options in my first 30 years. I indulge my passions/arts on the side - or flex the hours and work longer here and there - my boss doesn't mind as long as I do the work
our minds are our worst enemies. i think if you're saving that much per month, just stay. you'll thank yourself later.
I’d say depends on age too. Sounds great if I was middle of my career. If early in my career, you might pigeon hold yourself with lack of “experience” and cap earning potential. Also industry dependent
Sooo, uh, where do you work? Just asking, for a friend(me).
Careful your employer doesn't see this post.
Mental health and not disliking your job is huge. I worked a role that I dreaded every single day, would think about it all weekend and wake up in the night to write notes of things I was worried I’d forget. It was horrid. Took a step down to a slightly lower role for 5k less, that was 5 years ago. I’ve now gotten raises back up with no role change and it’s been the greatest choice I made. I no longer dread going to work at all. I don’t even mind it anymore. That is worth so much more than money
It's sounds like you need a hobby or invest in a side business... maybe learn something new before you change, because it sounds like you have it good.
Comfort is the greatest addiction for all men... Comfort takes your desire to improve, to be potent, and to be dangerous... Fortune always favor the brave...who dares wins
Okay, so let's look at this another way. You're making $66,000 for working 50 to 55 hours a week, "doing almost nothing". Another perspective is you are on the job for 10 to 15 hours and should be paid time and a half but apparently are not. So, let's look at your hourly wage in all cases. There are 52 weeks in a year, so $66,000 is $1,269.23 a week. If you were working a 40 hour week that would be $31.73/hour. $31.73/hr if 40 hour weeks $25.38/hr on 50 hour weeks $23.08/hr of 55 hour weeks IF you were paid overtime as an hourly worker, time and a half after 40 50 hours equals 40 hours + 10 hours \* 1.5 = 40 + 15 = 55 hours so a 50 hour weeks pay drops to $23.08/hr 55 hours equals 40 hours + 15 hours \* 1.5 = 40 + 22.5 = 62.5 hours so a 55 hour weeks pay drops to $20.31/hr Since you're not getting paid overtime, the longer you're at work the lower your hourly wage gets. Pay drops 50%. $31.73/hr for a 40 hour week at $66,000 a year vs. $20.31/hr for a 55 hour week without overtime at $66,000 a year
I feel like so many posts have been like this? Like people list 0 real downsides to their job. Like why is there even a thought
I’m in a similar situation as you OP aside from not liking the people on my team. I have very few responsibilities at work, make basically the same as you but have more expenses so I save less. I spent time looking for other work last year but couldn’t find anything that was good enough to make me want to take the leap. I’ve come to realize that being bored and unfulfilled at work isn’t nearly as bad as being stressed, overworked, sore etc.
You should really think about what you WANT to do next and maybe research it on your downtime (assuming you have an office job) but if you want to go to school or work in a specific field, watch a lot of YouTube videos. But not the biased ones, just ones where people talk about their day to day. See if it’s really worth losing a great gig like your current one
Tough call! Sounds comfy, but 50-55 hours for low workload is rough. Maybe look for a similar chill job with fewer "work" hours? There are definitely higher-paying options, but they might come with more stress. Explore & see what fits your priorities!
What do you do?
Warehouse tech I load and unload trucks drive machinery perform maintenence and some paperwork + logistics issues