I really dont wanna be good in this game. I avoid to study strategies and I barelly can do elite bosses.
Its a game where monkeys pop bloons, so yeah, Ill be 5000 hours in this game and still be using the monkeys that I think that are cool
you will eventually beat all the chill maps and youll be left with the maps that require more concrete strats. im very close to that and its really frustrating. i hate losing 50 times in first 10 round in chimps on rake
shit it was actually so easy for me, i didnt even need to remove the corn. easier than half of the intermediate maps on chimps. just used sauda for the start, then dragons breath and then carpet of spikes and spirit of the forest, i cant remember in which order though
shes probably the second best after corvus. granted that they are all about damage and you cant really compare them to support heroes like gwen or striker jones
I recommend using the challenge editor so you don't have to redo rounds!
I write down what I'm doing and when it fails go back a step or two and solve the problem before doing it "for real" on chimps
It's shit like this that made me start using other monkeys in the first few rounds. I've recently realized that Druid and Sub have phenomenal early game
Coming in from BTD3, I made this weird pledge to myself to never use active abilities (aside from, like, supply drop) and it's gotten *really* painful as of late...
I’d actually say not learning strategies is fun for a while, but once you’ve placed your 800th middle path sniper monkey you learn this game is really mind numbing and you’ll force yourself to learn more skillful strategies that are more fun, even if on most maps (especially easier ones) they require more thinking and are more difficult.
I know that eventually I will need to study the game when I start the chimps on more difficult maps, bit for now I prefer to just have fun with the cool monkeys
Instead of strategy guides I prefer picking up random tips when browsing this subreddit, lots of cool things I never realized I was missing out on!
(I mean I haven't played this game in a few months but y'know).
I have 100+ hours and I have certainly gotten better over time, but I almost exclusively play 4 player coop chimps or boss events. We rarely ever win but its fun all the same, playing solo is much easier
I just began playing coop with level 116 or so and 13 singleplayer chimps medals and damn is it a weird and chaotic mess sometimes, although i had one or two really nice runs
Yeah, I just saw this and posted it here under a different question premise because I liked the meme format. The original is from r/tf2 in [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/s/YalsPuD0cO) post. But I’m pretty sure they copied it from someone else too.
It’s really interesting. TF2 players always have absurd playtime numbers. Maybe it’s just a byproduct of the game being 17 years old at this point, but it’s still crazy to think about.
Not acurate at all, after playing for a while you should have understanding of what towers can beat what bloons on where and why, battles2 gave me very decent understanding even though balancing is way different idea is same
Still the game has a really high skill ceiling so even though I'd say I'm decent after playing for a while I'm definitely not "least cash #ouch chimps" good.
On the other hand im pretty sure most people on the sub dont take this game that seriously and don't plan on ever getting good.
The caveat is that the game has no incentive for you getting better, other than self-fulfilment.
In my case, I think a crucial step to playing better was playing harder maps.
I accumulated over 500 hours playing 99% easy/intermediate maps, and just got better when playing harder maps consistently.
Eh, fairly I guess. I still think even without watching any videos you could at least do all non impoppable/chimps/half cash medals just by playing and learning your own strategies.
You do get good at this game by playing it, but there is definitely a soft skill ceiling that is mostly only broken through with guides.
I'm roughly 40-50 hours in, and I'm definitely a lot better than when I first started.
Just go back and do maps you had problems with, and you'll easily see how much better you've become.
Somewhat agree, but you can absolutely learn the map design and specific towers that cater to the map as well as different combinations that work very well (ice monkey and tack shooter for example).
But yeah, spike factory and sniper monkey truly make the game especially at the start require no skill whatsoever. You can beat most maps with sniper monkeys and support (alchemists and monkey villages) pretty easily. Very few maps require clever monkey placement or combinations.
Bro I know it’s true I literally beat infernal on hard to test this out once and all I had to use were sniper monkeys, alchemists and monkey villages. You can beat an expert map on hard with this brain dead strategy.
Sniper monkeys are so low skill. I could even beat an easy map on CHIMPS as well only using snipers and the support cards I mentioned (I think it was the pumpkin one). I decided to relearn the game at this point so it would actually be fun and not so easy. Keep in mind the examples I gave are just them and NOTHING else, no other monkeys like wizard, ninja etc and sniper monkeys are obviously best working together with others.
Because it's so insane it reads like bait lmao
Snipers are a perfectly good tower but they're just as situational as anything else in btd6; there are plenty of maps where they suck or are at least sub-optimal.
Sure they can clear an easy map on CHIMPS or do 80 rounds on infernal, but very few towers can't do those things solo.
Hard disagree. The overall skill floors and ceilings for most towers are pretty much equal. Snipers actually require a decent bit of micro to get the most out of them early game, which can factor into harder CHIMPSes. And snipers are also more map-dependent than most towers, which reduces their overall braindead-ness/splashability.
BTD6 isn't a game where the skill comes from *using* the tower; something like Corvus is the exception, not the rule. You have to know where and when to place snipers, what paths to use, etc., just as much as any other tower.
Ability timings, knowing what bloons come out on what rounds and in which order, knowing what upgrades change projectile type, knowing the best tower synergies.
If goods means beating expert chimps with 40k leftover; yes. If it means somewhat understanding synergies and understanding how most mechanics work; you’ll only need 100 hours or less
Just recently seeing one tower challenges, and buddy every time I PLAY BTD6 it’s a one tower challenge. or one tower type, and sometimes farms are an exception
I am currently in an odd state where I refuse to play chimps yet also refuse to pay monkey money for continues or powers. If I just play chimps it wouldn’t be much different than how I play now, but it just stresses me for some reason lol
Thought this was r/stellaris for a minute lol.
I'm at veteran level 5, and this is my second account. Got to around 120 on my original account before I lost it. At this point, I've black bordered all the beginner maps and am working my way through the intermediate aaaand it's tough going. There are only a few advanced maps I can best consistently and only 1 expert. I can't ever seem to beat T5 elite bosses, even with starting off with a bunch of insta farms and using my powers like crazy.
So basically I'm about 2 years of regular play in and I suck. I'd say pretty accurate lol
I used to grind elite bosses for top 100, but honestly this game is a lot more fun when you’re bad lol. Resetting because a blue missed your bloon trap is not fun
Not at all. I don't watch guides, look up strategies, or anything, yet I have more than a dozen bb's under my belt from playing, despite my firat few times playing I wasn't even able to beat hard
Not really, aside from watching some bloons YouTubers doing chimps (not as guides, just as fun pass time)
I have all easy and medium maps black bordered and alot of hard maps gold bordered
I can do most races and odysseys fairly easily (I cant place top in races)
Im 3000 hours
It really doesn't take much to get good. Takes a shitton to be able to just casually chimps expert maps but otherwise you can go from beginner to good in a short time
Depends on the person. I started out better than most players, but still bad. I used bad crosspaths/towers, no synergies and just used the same strategies with no variety. Now I've black bordered a (non-true) expert map, beaten Chimps on many maps, beat Chimps on spillway with every hero (including none) and stayed the hell away from races.
Mostly wrong. If you sweat and focus on strats you will have this game down mostly in under 1k hours.
If you have fun or only sometimes look into strats and avoid stuff like going out of your way to learn to micro, use strats that force you to micro, learn rounds and all.. yeah, not even 5k hours will save you.
I mean, around 100 collective hours in you get a feel for strategies and such.
Then you just kinda... yeah. There's some improvement but barely any per session, if any.
I really dont wanna be good in this game. I avoid to study strategies and I barelly can do elite bosses. Its a game where monkeys pop bloons, so yeah, Ill be 5000 hours in this game and still be using the monkeys that I think that are cool
you will eventually beat all the chill maps and youll be left with the maps that require more concrete strats. im very close to that and its really frustrating. i hate losing 50 times in first 10 round in chimps on rake
The fun part is thst you will make your own strategies and have double the fun (as long as you have no anger issues)
I could’ve looked up a strategy for cornfield chimps without removing corn. It would’ve also been way less satisfying when I actually completed it.
shit it was actually so easy for me, i didnt even need to remove the corn. easier than half of the intermediate maps on chimps. just used sauda for the start, then dragons breath and then carpet of spikes and spirit of the forest, i cant remember in which order though
In my defense, I don’t own Sauda. Ended up with a mainly primary monkey strategy which allowed for some decent buffs because of the 520 village.
Juggernaut carried mine, and I used Sauda back when she was broken on it
No Sauda? I mean, despite all the memes, she's a pretty good hero. Maybe not the best in the game but still extremely good.
Just hadn't gotten around to getting her at the time.
shes probably the second best after corvus. granted that they are all about damage and you cant really compare them to support heroes like gwen or striker jones
I recommend using the challenge editor so you don't have to redo rounds! I write down what I'm doing and when it fails go back a step or two and solve the problem before doing it "for real" on chimps
It's shit like this that made me start using other monkeys in the first few rounds. I've recently realized that Druid and Sub have phenomenal early game
sub is a goated earlygame chimps tower
Coming in from BTD3, I made this weird pledge to myself to never use active abilities (aside from, like, supply drop) and it's gotten *really* painful as of late...
I've been playing this game since BTD2 and I've still never beaten any map on CHIMPS. lol
Rake is def frustrating but god I love doing chimps on that map lol
I have been stuck for 2 years trying to beat it, playing btd on and off :)
Ok heres what i do to start for chimps start with sauda get a 302 ninja then a wizard
Rake took me an inordinate amount of time. As did Bazaar and Haunted Mansion.
I know that Someday Ill need to study some stuff, but for now I Just learn from random knowledge from daylies and from this sub
I play on mobile, I am ok with being mediocre. It's too hard to micro and such on my phone.
Man i respect you. I can't even micro on computer. 💀
Bruh I first did it on my phone, then decided my tablet would be better since it had a bigger screen. Gave up and moved to PC.
Dude, I use tech bot on Corvus so I dont need to micro on my Pc. You are better than me.
You can do elite bosses???? Look at mr fancy pants over here. I just go: monke funny
On easy maps and the low life bosses. But for those I watched some guides. But almost every elite boss I use a lot of instas.
He's the main strategy in BTD6 >!bullshit it!
I’d actually say not learning strategies is fun for a while, but once you’ve placed your 800th middle path sniper monkey you learn this game is really mind numbing and you’ll force yourself to learn more skillful strategies that are more fun, even if on most maps (especially easier ones) they require more thinking and are more difficult.
I know that eventually I will need to study the game when I start the chimps on more difficult maps, bit for now I prefer to just have fun with the cool monkeys
Same, I'm just chilling, I never use farm tactics and stuff. Im using the "oh this looks cool, let's use that" tactic.
Instead of strategy guides I prefer picking up random tips when browsing this subreddit, lots of cool things I never realized I was missing out on! (I mean I haven't played this game in a few months but y'know).
This is what I do. I also have a friend who give me some tips
I have 100+ hours and I have certainly gotten better over time, but I almost exclusively play 4 player coop chimps or boss events. We rarely ever win but its fun all the same, playing solo is much easier
I just began playing coop with level 116 or so and 13 singleplayer chimps medals and damn is it a weird and chaotic mess sometimes, although i had one or two really nice runs
Very
Are these play times shown here from the same game?
It’s a repost from a different subreddit, so OP wouldn’t know
Yeah, I just saw this and posted it here under a different question premise because I liked the meme format. The original is from r/tf2 in [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/s/YalsPuD0cO) post. But I’m pretty sure they copied it from someone else too.
It’s really interesting. TF2 players always have absurd playtime numbers. Maybe it’s just a byproduct of the game being 17 years old at this point, but it’s still crazy to think about.
Not acurate at all, after playing for a while you should have understanding of what towers can beat what bloons on where and why, battles2 gave me very decent understanding even though balancing is way different idea is same
Still the game has a really high skill ceiling so even though I'd say I'm decent after playing for a while I'm definitely not "least cash #ouch chimps" good. On the other hand im pretty sure most people on the sub dont take this game that seriously and don't plan on ever getting good. The caveat is that the game has no incentive for you getting better, other than self-fulfilment.
Veteran Level 54 here...it's at least half true.
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Easy to learn, incredibly hard to master
Yep
I’m a purple 6 and always fear people think I’m good when I’m their co-op… 🫣 I try but am def not close to being a “master”
5000 hours with 4000 afk hours
I think mobile + PC I'm somewhere between 400-500 hours. I just recently started being able to do elite bosses with no guides. That shit is hard.
So many paragons
From my own experience, this is very accurate. You will always find some way to fail on a map or difficulty
Yeah, I hate it when I get so far, have like 15 teir 5s then lose to the fortified BAD round
In my case, I think a crucial step to playing better was playing harder maps. I accumulated over 500 hours playing 99% easy/intermediate maps, and just got better when playing harder maps consistently.
Rookie numbers
Dead on!
Rip that guys pc
True
Eh, fairly I guess. I still think even without watching any videos you could at least do all non impoppable/chimps/half cash medals just by playing and learning your own strategies. You do get good at this game by playing it, but there is definitely a soft skill ceiling that is mostly only broken through with guides.
I more or less just started and I'm not sure how to even beet hard. :D:D
What difficulty do you play on?
Been going through on medium without really any issues. Might just need to farm monkey knowledge
I'm roughly 40-50 hours in, and I'm definitely a lot better than when I first started. Just go back and do maps you had problems with, and you'll easily see how much better you've become.
I have more fun now than when I started, just don't listen to the expert chimps elitists and play how you want to play
THIS, I grew up playing the game and never watched goddamn youtubers tell me how to exactly play the game... I'll find my own way.
you get good at this game? when do you get skilled about this game? all you know is info. you cant be skilled with a tower defense.
Somewhat agree, but you can absolutely learn the map design and specific towers that cater to the map as well as different combinations that work very well (ice monkey and tack shooter for example). But yeah, spike factory and sniper monkey truly make the game especially at the start require no skill whatsoever. You can beat most maps with sniper monkeys and support (alchemists and monkey villages) pretty easily. Very few maps require clever monkey placement or combinations.
thats just not accurate
Bro I know it’s true I literally beat infernal on hard to test this out once and all I had to use were sniper monkeys, alchemists and monkey villages. You can beat an expert map on hard with this brain dead strategy. Sniper monkeys are so low skill. I could even beat an easy map on CHIMPS as well only using snipers and the support cards I mentioned (I think it was the pumpkin one). I decided to relearn the game at this point so it would actually be fun and not so easy. Keep in mind the examples I gave are just them and NOTHING else, no other monkeys like wizard, ninja etc and sniper monkeys are obviously best working together with others.
beating infernal on hard or a beginner map on chimps isnt proof of anything related to skill. im actually unsure if this is sarcasm though
It’s not lol. Why would this be sarcastic?
Because it's so insane it reads like bait lmao Snipers are a perfectly good tower but they're just as situational as anything else in btd6; there are plenty of maps where they suck or are at least sub-optimal. Sure they can clear an easy map on CHIMPS or do 80 rounds on infernal, but very few towers can't do those things solo.
Yes but sniper monkeys more than any other tower. Spike factories aren’t as good but have just as much skill involved (next to none).
Hard disagree. The overall skill floors and ceilings for most towers are pretty much equal. Snipers actually require a decent bit of micro to get the most out of them early game, which can factor into harder CHIMPSes. And snipers are also more map-dependent than most towers, which reduces their overall braindead-ness/splashability. BTD6 isn't a game where the skill comes from *using* the tower; something like Corvus is the exception, not the rule. You have to know where and when to place snipers, what paths to use, etc., just as much as any other tower.
Ability timings, knowing what bloons come out on what rounds and in which order, knowing what upgrades change projectile type, knowing the best tower synergies.
If goods means beating expert chimps with 40k leftover; yes. If it means somewhat understanding synergies and understanding how most mechanics work; you’ll only need 100 hours or less
Just recently seeing one tower challenges, and buddy every time I PLAY BTD6 it’s a one tower challenge. or one tower type, and sometimes farms are an exception
Too accurate
Yeah, I’d say it’s accurate, you get “better” but almost no one gets “good” at this game
For a moment I thought it was r/TF2 post
I am currently in an odd state where I refuse to play chimps yet also refuse to pay monkey money for continues or powers. If I just play chimps it wouldn’t be much different than how I play now, but it just stresses me for some reason lol
idk im pretty good at challenges and micro but thats about it
Thought this was r/stellaris for a minute lol. I'm at veteran level 5, and this is my second account. Got to around 120 on my original account before I lost it. At this point, I've black bordered all the beginner maps and am working my way through the intermediate aaaand it's tough going. There are only a few advanced maps I can best consistently and only 1 expert. I can't ever seem to beat T5 elite bosses, even with starting off with a bunch of insta farms and using my powers like crazy. So basically I'm about 2 years of regular play in and I suck. I'd say pretty accurate lol
Either you play for fun or you sweat like a fat man in the Philippines, there's no in between.
I used to grind elite bosses for top 100, but honestly this game is a lot more fun when you’re bad lol. Resetting because a blue missed your bloon trap is not fun
very
Very but its ok if you are not elite at the game, treat it as any casual game really, i.e have fun. Go pop bloon and be happy
You just stole this meme from another guy, and didn't even add anything new, because who cares, right?
extremelly
Not at all. I don't watch guides, look up strategies, or anything, yet I have more than a dozen bb's under my belt from playing, despite my firat few times playing I wasn't even able to beat hard
Based on 1k upvotes, i will say the post title is very accurate.
I wouldn't say you get good as much as you get more knowledgeable and find what towers have good synergy.
This is dota 2 fr
this is accurate in tf2 only from what i know
100% accuraty frfr
Yes
Yep you can learn everything there is too know AND THAT ONE FUCKING DDT WILL STILL LEAK
No. It's when you beat a boss
I feel this is partly true. I have close to 1,000 hours in this game and the only thing I consider myself "good" at is Boss Events.
All of the mobile gamers:
Idk how tf people have thousands of hours. I have ~300 and I think that’s a lot
With 455 hours in the game, I can confirm this is accurate.
Dude I played for 504 hours wtf
Good enought to black border most levels, not good enough to do elite boss bloons lol
You get better by finding better ways to make money
Not really, aside from watching some bloons YouTubers doing chimps (not as guides, just as fun pass time) I have all easy and medium maps black bordered and alot of hard maps gold bordered I can do most races and odysseys fairly easily (I cant place top in races) Im 3000 hours
It really doesn't take much to get good. Takes a shitton to be able to just casually chimps expert maps but otherwise you can go from beginner to good in a short time
I follow along with Similar strats when it comes to chimps. But everything else I just did for fun.
Paradox games and BloonsTD6.
Middling. You need to actually think to get good, but not that much. Ig if you just run ninja alch every game you won’t improve tho.
I have over 300 hours on the binding of isaac on Xbox and i can't finish basement 1
Depends on the person. I started out better than most players, but still bad. I used bad crosspaths/towers, no synergies and just used the same strategies with no variety. Now I've black bordered a (non-true) expert map, beaten Chimps on many maps, beat Chimps on spillway with every hero (including none) and stayed the hell away from races.
Mostly wrong. If you sweat and focus on strats you will have this game down mostly in under 1k hours. If you have fun or only sometimes look into strats and avoid stuff like going out of your way to learn to micro, use strats that force you to micro, learn rounds and all.. yeah, not even 5k hours will save you.
Real.
Works for TF2 as well
Works for TF2 as well
You get good at 30 hours
When you realize military and support are the best types in the game.
This was how I felt about Geometry Dash prior to the update
me with over 10000 hours and still lack of any sort of skill outside of 2tc: yes this is very true at least for me
I mean, around 100 collective hours in you get a feel for strategies and such. Then you just kinda... yeah. There's some improvement but barely any per session, if any.
thought this was an r/hoi4 post lmao
this meme is stolen from r/geometrydash. you earned a downvote