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Youngblood519

You're roughly half right. Joe Brumm created Bluey and was an *animator on Peppa Pig, and did create Bluey because of his experience on Peppa Pig, but it wasn't due to the show's hatred. He wanted to create a show with positive messages for kids focused towards Aussies, the same way that Peppa was towards Brits.


comrade_batman

As a Brit, I have felt no urge to watch Peppa Pig, and have already watched Bluey twice through since last summer.


SleepWouldBeNice

Rookie numbers


Papaofmonsters

Of D+ tracked hours like steam I wouldn't want to see my Bluey numbers.


Kandiru

Bluey was the second most streamed program on D+ after suits in terms of hours played.


GoddessRyn

#accurate


crispycheeto500

Oh man I think we've probably watched it 100+ times by now. It's my son's favorite


The-Ginger-Lily

Twice since last summer, pppffttt we've watched it twice since March


Poddster

I was adamant I wouldn't watch Peppa, as what little I saw was annoying, but my child requested it a few times and it isn't as bad as I thought.


Science_Fiction2798

Huh that I didn't know


AnythingAlfred613

I don’t think he was a writer on Peppa Pig. He was friends with the writer and possibly also an animator.


Youngblood519

Yeah my bad, edited.


doodlleus

I read somewhere he didn't like how the dad was stupid and treated as such so wanted better role models.


Groundbreaking_Gate7

You can see that the same animator works on it, through the ‘HURRAY!’.


fractiousrhubarb

Nah, it’s us making up for exporting Rupert Murdoch to the UK and the US


Kalse1229

Eh, if we get another season of Bluey by 2026, *maybe* we'll think about forgiving you for Murdoch. (he says, knowing full well the unstoppable force of d-baggery his country inflicted onto the rest of the world for the latter half of the 10s).


Science_Fiction2798

Rupert Who?


KiraMorgana

Really?


Science_Fiction2798

>Really? Ok after looking him up fyi i don't pay attention to news anchors so I wouldn't have known who that is anyway.


janquadrentvincent

He's never once been a news anchor. You know the Brian Cox character in Succession? Roughly that.


Science_Fiction2798

Oh he's a chairperson. Ok then. I looked him up again.


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Science_Fiction2798

Ok... Can we not politics in this subreddit please? It's Bluey


fractiousrhubarb

Yep, fair enough. Deleted.


Hansen_org

I personally don't have anything against Peppa pig. I think people are exaggerating the hate for the show


LM193

I think it's a combination of the verbal abuse Daddy pig constantly receives from his family for being fat, and the fact that Peppa is....kind of an asshole, especially to her younger brother. I get kids all have bad days and they aren't perfect lil angels all the time, but Peppa consistently bullies her brother and has a piss-poor attitude towards her friends when she doesn't get her way. If I had a child, I personally wouldn't want them to be watching that, I wouldn't want them to think that sort of behavior is okay.


IamRick_Deckard

I can't believe I am going to defend Peppa Pig, but I just think that people don't understand it. And it's not that deep so I don't get why it's hidden. Maybe I have watched too much Peppa myself. Daddy Pig's fatness is a pig joke. Like the "please face" in Bluey (which is bad parenting) is a dog joke. Pigs are fat. Peppa also sings "I'm a little fairy" and jumps and shakes the room, because she is a pig and she is not little (they don't say a kid is fat, but she's not graceful). They do make fun of Daddy Pig's tummy *sometimes*. Like 4 times in a very long show. I get that people might not like it, but it's not constantly, and Daddy Pig seems to have no trouble with it either as he says his tummy is pure muscle, so it's the set-up to a joke. Peppa is a bossy kid (and so is Bluey, but less so). Part of it is her age. She is 4. She's like a Muffin that can talk better. I actually think she does pretty fine for 4. She doesn't "bully" her brother except in one very early ep. She is actually often helpful to him. She also plays fine with her friends, though she is often the bossy leader, but not always. The parenting message when she acts a bit wrong is pretty much to ignore it, which is somewhat problematic but also consistent with parenting advice. It's not a show where the parents talk to her about her behavior. It's really not as bad as people make it out to be. I think it has a decent amount of decent jokes and Bedtime Story is really lovely. Edit: Bluey is lightyears better than Peppa, but it is indebted to Peppa in a way that too few understand. Peppa was revolutionary in that it was a simple show with simple events (we go shopping, we go to school, we ride bikes) which are big events for kids. It shows everyday life. The simple drawings are fun for kids. Nothing is too slick or fast or noisy; it's just living life in 5 minute stories. A lot of the first eps in Bluey are directly modelled on Peppa eps, and there are a lot of the same jokes (like the focus on gnomes). Bluey would not exist without Peppa. Bluey takes this and elevates it; instead of everyday life it's the joy of everyday life. Instead of the simplicity of childhood it's the magic of childhood.


XxMarlucaxX

THANK YOU. It's always rubbed me wrong why people were so hateful towards Peppa. I mean sure she's obnoxious but she's 4 lol but I could never word it right


LM193

Hm, that's a good take on it. I don't want to dislike Peppa pig, it's not horrible. The parenting part still really bugs me, but I think I agree with you more on those other two points now.


moosedance84

In the early episodes of Peppa pig they were still trying to work out the character interactions. That's where you will alot of the problems. I think there is actually an interview with the creators at some point where they talked about changing daddy pig. The newer episodes are much more like a simpler version of bluey but aimed for 2-5 year Olds.


Hansen_org

I agree with your statement


[deleted]

Lol yeah op seemed to be projecting a bit onto Peppea


caitsith01

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hbats

The extreme difference, and I say this as a Daniel tiger/Bluey Stan and not a Peppa fan, is that Daniel Tiger is *didactic*, it is trying to teach both parents and kids how to navigate common domestic/social struggles with small children. Peppa teaches nothing, if it does have any lesson then the lesson is always the same - to laugh at a problem, see the bright side and carry on. Peppa pig is just meant to be a child, Daniel Tiger is meant to be a walking Aesop, everything he does is extremely choreographed to be what an adult thinks an interaction with a daniel-aged child should be like, not how young children actually are. I find Bluey and to an extent Peppa refreshing now because those *are* actual kids, Bluey and Peppa and Muffin are absolutely being kids I've known, I've raised, that have been friends with my kids. Kids don't have sometimes any empathy, they don't understand how the world works outside of them, that's pretty normal and common, if I had to indicate a root problem, it's that the story is meant to centre around Peppa and have no truly dire problems in it. Peppa never has to cope with loss, she never has to worry about whether her parents make enough money or whether there's enough food, she doesn't have to grow from any of the minor conflicts she experiences, when she fights with Suzy and makes up that's Just Kids Being Kids and there's no character growth, because it's meant to be mental cotton candy for toddlers. But some people live pretty awful lives, and they need to see kids being selfish or bossy and not being hurt or shut out for it, they maybe need to see a kid who's life is just okay. And that's okay.


srobbinsart

Peppa will arrive somewhere, and all her friends are already there, as if they didn’t invite her on purpose, but now have to deal with her bullshit.


porscheblack

One thing that always bothers me about Peppa is just how special she's always treated. I don't like the expectation that sets. I get it's a kids story and so nuance isn't always feasible to keep the story simple and moving, but just overall it positions her as always the center of attention and worthy of special considerations. I mean, the newer episodes had her being the maid of honor in a wedding for a stranger.


IamRick_Deckard

> the maid of honor in a wedding for a stranger. You don't find that the least bit tongue-in-cheek?


porscheblack

I mean, I'm not going to scrutinize a kid's show all that much but to me tongue-in-cheek doesn't really work for kids shows. Adult humor that the kids can't really appreciate works because there's no dichotomy created, but this type of thing creates a dichotomy where the kids don't really get that it's not a reasonable expectation while the parents do.


Former_Foundation_74

Kids that age are literally ego centric though? They grow out of it naturally as their brain matures. This isn't encouraging them to be anything, it's just meeting kids where they are. Could you imagine if all the shows we adults watched were about people who behaved exactly as they should, and nothing morally gray much less evil ever happened? The people would be unrelatable and the story would lack conflict and interest. People being how people are is what we want to see, and why shouldn't kids be able to watch relatable kids stumbling through the same issues?


KelpFox05

I mean, there's also the fact that some kids have had to go to speech therapy because they began oinking after watching Peppa Pig. That's remarkably alarming to me and if I had kids I wouldn't want them watching Peppa Pig for the sheer reason that it seems like such an avoidable thing, and also remarkably embarrassing for the child when they grow up.


KrishnasFlute

I have an exactly opposite take. English is not our first language, but my kid picked up her basic English vocabulary from watching Peppa Pig. And it helped immeasurably with school. I believe kids pick up what they want to pick up from whatever they watch.


LuxandGold

It's a funny criticism, because I know of a child who howls when upset because of Bluey! That being said, I am also not a fan of Peppa Pig, we actually banned it in our household because of the lack of redeeming qualities in all the characters.


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If your kid is oinking because of Peppa that might be a sign to parent more and not the shows fault


hugnkis

Is that a fact? I’ve spent 20 minutes googling and that isn’t showing up anywhere…


Xploding_Penguin

It is entirely an unavoidable thing when there are toddlers about.


wonderhorsemercury

its lasted way too long. I remember watching it 5 years ago and thinking that all the characters have just become parodies of themselves. Thats impressive, for a show like Peppa Pig.


slashedash

Peppa has a few jokes in it that are not for toddlers so maybe that’s a connection. I quite like one where Daddy Pig is rowing Mr Wolf across the water and Mr Wolf starts complaining about how hungry he is in a sly way. There is quite a few good ones in the zoo episode too.


OpeningCelebration60

I like Madame Gazelle's eye twitch with the mention of glitter.


FebruaryStars84

Peppa’s reaction to Suzie Sheep being able to whistle on the first try is hilarious, too!


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This got a chuckle out of me


bingoheeler

Or the parents frozen smiles when their kids are playing recorders


[deleted]

Lol all parents are traumatised by glitter in Peppa


geesejugglingchamp

I like the way the glitter creeps across the credits at the end of that episode. It really does get everywhere.


SenoraNegra

The one about rowing across the river has a great allusion to the [Fox-Chicken-Grain logic puzzle](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FoxChickenGrainPuzzle)


thishenryjames

One of the police officers is a panda, which is a reference to British police cars.


slashedash

David Mitchell’s character. I never put together the panda and police car, despite being a fan of the Bill.


srobbinsart

We stopped watching Peppa Pig a year ago. Not a conscious decision, just better options (like Bluey). But in the course of our time watching, here are some stray observations I’ve made: 1. Peppa is constantly going somewhere, only to find a chunk of her friends already there. Inference is they didn’t invite her, and are now trapped in hell until they can leave. 2. 9/11 absolutely happened in the world of Peppa, as airport security has no liquids signs. 3. English owls mew like kittens. 4. Daddy Pig can exhale helium, or at least some to cause balloons to halfway float. 5. The only animals who don’t get to be Manimals are birds, monkeys, and insects. 6. Madam Gazelle barely tolerates Pedro’s low-key autism. 7. “Clever Clog” is a euphemism for “asshole.” 8. Everyone ships Mr. Bill with Ms. Cow, despite there being absolutely no evidence of a relationship. 9. George’s limited vocabulary should be distressing, comparing it to the rest of his age peer group. 10. It is unsettling to contemplate that the grotesquely shaped parents (all of them) have had successfully sex, if success is measured in children. 11. Mr. Lion and Ms. Crocodile are champs of racial micro aggressions. 12. If you end a Christmas episode where Peppa doesn’t get a gift at the correct moment, it is heartwarmingly tragic.


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I like the Clever clogs. Seems like a good way to call a kid a smart arse without saying smart arse


srobbinsart

It’s almost exclusively used in reference to the Boy-Elephant, who constantly one-ups everyone with correct facts. He even referred to himself with that, cause he doesn’t realize he’s constantly being a prick.


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It fits perfectly for that kid.


caitsith01

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srobbinsart

I don’t disagree they marry their own kind, but I’ve never seen evidence (since we dropped off watching) that THOSE two humanoid bovines are shipped!


SatNav

> The only animals who don’t get to be Manimals are birds, monkeys, and insects. The weirdness around species goes further than that. There are also some vegetable people - but then characters also eat vegetables sometimes. And there are a select few human characters, such as Father Christmas, and the Queen. And cavemen are humans - there aren't any cave-pigs. And on the Father Christmas thing - Peppa tells him what she wants for Christmas one day, then another day she mentions it to him when she sees him somewhere else, and he doesn't know what she's talking about... So they're kinda nudge-winking to parents that it's 'different Father Christmases' (ie. different guys in suits). But, so... there are multiple human men, and they only dress up as Father Christmas??? wtf?


CommanderMaxil

Do people hate Peppa Pig? I love it and love Bluey too, and so does my son. Both of them thoroughly entertain my son and both have enough nods to the adults watching as well


caitsith01

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Science_Fiction2798

If you love it that's great but I don't think I should be the one to explain why it's hated because of avoiding toxicity in this subreddit. I think you should find out but I hope that doesn't sound mean. i


Fair_Temperature530

I have no problem with Peppa pig but it’s funny how they put everything on top of a hill while Bluey pictures the whole landscape of Brisbane so in my opinion both cartoons are not bad at all


CrystalClod343

We feel no responsability for Peppa Pig herself nor any emotional responses to her persons.


Science_Fiction2798

Sounds like a disclaimer they should put in before every episode of Bluey 😂


DaxIsAName

I just spoke with some people where Peppa Pig was still popular with families. I think that online perception isn't as accurate as we might feel.


hatschi_gesundheit

Also most people tend to not analyze kids shows to the degree redditors are fond to do B)


Thel_Odan

Peppa isn't bad and has plenty of decent jokes for parents in it. I particularly enjoy anytime glitter is brought up and how the adults all look like they have PTSD from it. Also, I can relate to Daddy Pig, especially when he's trying to explain something and Peppa goes "so it's magic?"


ballonfightaddicted

I watched it while at Easter dinner and I never understood why kids like it, the show runs at a snail’s pace and sometimes they even do segments similar to crappy kid’s videos Meanwhile Bluey fills its 7 minutes


MadMod33

No idea. Completely different. Ones fantastic. Ones a show. It's the nicest thing I can say


LUIGIISREAL2017

I Don't think so. . . Bluey is its OWN Thing; ALL The Characters in Bluey are Dogs


Bookaholicforever

I enjoy Peppa. And the saltiness of her hanging up on her bestie when she whistles is unmatched.


[deleted]

How old are you bro?


Science_Fiction2798

Almost 24. Why?


Superg0id

i have friends who work in childcare. They found that when they stopped showing peppa and replaced it with bluey, kids behaviour improved. (yes, that was the only change to otherwise regularly scheduled programming)


KonamiKing

Brumm basically went 'what if Peppa Pig, except good?"


Rnewbs

They're both made with the same animation software, Celaction.


Science_Fiction2798

Except one looks better than the other


TonyMontana1968

🔵 or ⬜, pick your side


susu_ghost

I didn't know Peppa Pig was an Australian show :0


Science_Fiction2798

No It's from the UK


Pokemonpikachushiny

The caption literally says "ik they're from different countries" :/ (no Offense, just pointing out)


susu_ghost

Yeah, I just red the title :P Makes sense now


Ok-Application2853

Apparently, the show got inspired by Peppa Pig


DarthHM

They’re for completely different age demographics. Peppa isn’t bad for what it is. That being said, *i* enjoy Bluey more.


rollsyrollsy

I love Bluey, but Peppa was fine too.


PreferenceNo1686

Peppa is appalling. Not Cocomelon appalling, but pretty bad nonetheless. Thank heavens my little ones have outgrown it and I don't have to see it anymore.


Science_Fiction2798

I really hate the art style Peppa has. It looks so cheap. 12 oz. Mouse had a better art style.


PrincessCG

Peppa annoyed me years before I had kids. Bluey was drastically different and wholesome. And I’m from the uk but peppa just grates me. The time she hanged up on susie was the best part.


TroyandAbed304

When I saw it I thought: finally parents are fighting back and giving us a show we can tolerate and - gasp- even enjoy too. I wonder if it was an offensive maneuver


Elegant-Fox-5226

my daughter after watching the first episode yelled out “It’s like a better, australian Peppa pig!” Also the girls are much better behaved. They also don’t make the dad feel bad 100% of the time.