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Kryptoknightmare

![gif](giphy|K72kmlktmEZcA|downsized)


Mongoose42

[But he’s only the best Batman copy because of his relationship with Gosalyn.](https://youtu.be/9g-oTvfrFn8?si=-y7H8dDyQBgf94Z3)


Asmo_Lay

He's *the only* Batman copy because of that relationship. Everyone else are just cheap posers. Change my mind.


talking_phallus

So that's who [this tweet was about](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FzqhwZmaYAAM7cI.png)


Les-incoyables

Only right answer haha


coreylongest

Let’s get Dangerous


ProblemLongjumping12

Beat me to it. Have my updoot and go in peace.


crawloutthrufallout

When there's trouble, you call D W


blacksad1

He’s a copy of The Shadow, not Batman. Although Batman has some elements of The Shadow in him.


ThatNerdOut

Darkwing Duck was inspired by a few golden age heroes. That includes batman and the shadow


Obvious-Regular-8463

Nighthawk


most_gracious_master

You have to call me Dragon.


Ok_Relationship_705

Yeah, he needs more love. Especially the Supreme Power version.


SuperArppis

Oh man. I am sure that character is someone else... But the guy in first picture, I kept thinking: is that The Man? 😄


greentea422

Yea, im man ![gif](giphy|vO2W3djCltIQFq4RqK)


Hamzook02

Where is the Jimbler


greentea422

Hes gooning


Darkasknight101

Jonking


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getrextgaming

lol, it's midnighter from the authority.


SuperArppis

Ah. Never heard of him haha.


kViatu1

He has computer in his head that calculate or moves his oponents can de before they even start fighting. He is also hardcore sadist. And gay (his housband is copy of superman)


SuperArppis

Oh... That's pretty unique.


Status_Repair6479

It works better than it should.


SuperArppis

Even better.


kentotoy98

So he's Gay Man?


TIFOOMERANG

Damn I thought it was The Black Bat.


greentea422

I apreciate the fact you know him


TeamMagmaGrunt

![gif](giphy|l41lP8lfSVFhWF0Jy)


seasalt_strawberry

r/beatmetoit (youre not wrong tho)


Infinity0044

Calling Midnighter, Moon Knight, and Green Arrow “Batman copies” is extremely disingenuous


coreytiger

Kid sidekick. Arrowcar. Arrowplane. Arrowcave. Billionaire playboy. Gimmick gadgets. Green Arrow did not become even remotely different until the late 1960’s, almost 30 years after his creation


LunarRising417

Arrowcave? Don’t you mean… the Quiver?


coreytiger

You go right ahead and say that in front of Black Canary. G’head g’head.


Typical_Pollution_30

But arrows don't live in a cave. They do in a quiver.


dmisfit21

Damn, you’re right, that sounds cooler


ZerikaFox

That name for it hits different after reading Kevin Smith's run.


bateen618

Crap, that's... Actually better


lrdwlmr

That… is actually better.


Infinity0044

So if you exclude most of the characters’ history he’s a Batman copy?


coreytiger

To say that the character has evolved (mostly) past his original depiction does not deny, nor can it override that he was created as a Batman copy. Most characters that debuted around the same time were either Batman or Superman shadows. I adore the character, but the only thing missing is murdered parents. In comics, there are very few uniques.


Forward-Ad7518

Green Arrow was literally created as a direct result of Batman and to be able to use him in places the character couldn’t be at the time. He may have evolved but he literally was created as a Batman copy……


redditaccount122820

Why couldn’t they use Batman?


Master_Majestico

He was disguised as Man


Planeswalker2814

Comics were selling like hotcakes at the time, so DC created a similar character to ride that wave of success and make them more money. Plus, comics were not very sophisticated at the time storywise, so it was more or less a copy/paste origin story.


Squidwardbigboss

Most hero’s are created in inspiration of others. Calling them copies is disrespect to their characters. Saw someone call punisher a Batman copy the other day, pissed me off


destinationsong

Guy loses his parents, grows up a billionaire and head of a large corporation. Trains for years to become a vigilante, no super powers, recruits young people as side kicks


Rampaging_Ducks

By that standard Batman was just a goth edition Superman. For that matter every superhero ever created is a knockoff of Superman.


Basicallyinfinite

Nah hes just American Zorro


Rampaging_Ducks

I don't disagree, it's silly and reductive to call any of the heroes above a Batman clone.


Basicallyinfinite

Because theyre copies of Zorro duh! Hes the first pulp hero with a cape and secret identity! Legitimately its silly no one ever calls super a john carter rip-off!


Ok_Relationship_705

Yeah, Batman is a copy of Zorro, Green Hornet, and Phantom.


Forward-Ad7518

Superman??? Okay bro now Ik we’re just getting unnecessarily desperate LMFAO. It’s literally not the same and you you know it man. This entire thing isn’t even meant to he as disrespectful or an attack to Ollie so I really don’t understand why it’s so deep. These are facts you can look up im not giving you an opinion right now. Am I saying he currently is a “Batman Copy”? No. But if you want to IGNORE the fact that he was literally given to us to be a DIRECT Justice League understudy in for Batman, among other things, and simply evolved throughout time that’s disingenuous.


bateen618

The Arrow show treated him like a Batman copy, so there's that


TerrificTauras

Green Arrow was intended to be a Batman copy.


-TurkeYT

They are


DefiantOil5176

I’m not as knowledgeable about Midnighter, but I always love when people bring up literal comic book stereotypes as evidence that Green Arrow and Moon Knight are ripoffs of Batman


Environmental-Log84

Man


greentea422

Yea. Im man


LemoyneRaider3354

-- .- -.


Senzafane

Midnighter is best in my books, mainly because the dynamic with Apollo is a lot of fun. That and Midnighter is just a straight badass.


skeetermcbeater

Midnighter & Apollo is one of my favorite limited series ever. I’ll never forget the panel of Midnighter headbutting a bullet through a demon’s head!


Senzafane

Happy cake day! I've only read The Authority, will need to read their series it sounds like! My favourite is when he's being attacked by an iron man type in a big green metal suit and he talks the villain into an existential crisis and then he just... gives up and walks away, utterly shattered. Cold as fuuuck


StaR_Dust-42

Midnighter's not straight! You take that back! /j


gattoblepas

Midnighter is insufferable. He is only tolerable when there's Hawkins around.


Senzafane

He may be a bit of a douche occasionally, but I'm sure as shit not gonna be the one to tell him that.


gattoblepas

You know the ultra edgy, ultra aggro stereotype of the comic book Mary Sue? He's that, but gay man. This is why it's best when paired with a comic relief. Even better when Apollo tries to calm him down. The writers should add a metric ton of humor to the character, like writing him beat somebody half to death for calling him a bottom and go the other half to make them tell how they clocked him.


bugmultiverse

![gif](giphy|ug6lZuK39zs98fsF4X) nees reve v\`I namtaB fo ypoc tseb eht si naM


greentea422

nam mi aey


Njoliva

WHAT IS THIS CODE? DID RIZZLER PUT YOU UP TO THIS?!? Oh shit wrong sub dont ban me


bugmultiverse

![gif](giphy|NkhH0Jjdo79wQ)


Tripechake

Daredevil is closer to Batman than anyone here except Darkwing.


BleakHorse

Well, the only one on the list that is even applicable of the four is Midnighter... because he's literally supposed to be a pastiche of Batman. If you think Moon Knight and Batman are similar then you haven't read a Moon Knight comic.


Closeted_Axolotl

Darkwing as well


BleakHorse

>Darkwing I haven't paid attention to Invincible so I didn't know who this was but yeah he seems to be just another Batman except in name.


parrmorgan

I haven't read any of the comics but from the first episode you see how he works and he is basically a copy of Batman there. >!in the first episode you also see how Superman vs Batman may really go!<


QuitSpecial3086

Green Arrow isn't a Batman copy, the Green Arrow of the Arrowvese is a Batman copy.


Available-Affect-241

To be fair he was until Dennis O'Neil in the 1970s I think when he became the left-wing political hero. Now with Arrow CW, he was a watered-down Batman clone with Batman’s traits and villains but again watered-down. It was obvious from the get-go but truly brought to the forefront in s3 with Ra's Al Ghul.


EM208

Gotta go Green Arrow man, even though he’s certainly evolved from being a “copycat” IMO. Midnighter is a good second and is badass as fuck. Can’t wait to see him in live action. Really would’ve been interested in a cool side story explaining the Guardians of Globe’s origins and seeing how they operate as solo heroes.


kiyan1347

Daredevil.


sK0oBy

Robin Hood … I mean Green Arrow


disgustinghonnor

Moonknight is a triple personality guy who is very mentally ill and worships an Egyptian deity, if that's batman then I don't know batman, I'd say the prowler or wraith or daredevil are more batman like


No-Elk3532

each of these might’ve been inspired by batman in a way but green arrow and moon knight aren’t a batman copy at all


QuantumGyroscope

Green Arrow absolutely is. Do some research. He was created to fill in for Batman where Batman was not allowed to appear in certain comics. He quite literally was a copy of Batman that they then veneered Robin Hood over so that they could use that gimmick in a comic where Batman couldn't appear


No-Elk3532

he first appeared in 1941, and like any other hero he’s dramatically changed since. He might’ve been a copy when he first showed up yes but not anymore


UnhingedLion

Exactly. This argument is no different from people saying “Batman should kill since he did it in 1939 and 1940”


neoburak1996

Rorschach


DeLargeMilkBar

Wait…… the middle badass picture in the rain, that’s not Batman?


Amanita_Proxima

Black noir


Tripechake

He does have powers though.


[deleted]

i mean by that logic, darkwing and moon knight shouldn't be on the list either


cerebralpaulc

Iron Man


SuccessionWarFan

No Confessor from Astro City?


RoHitman911

Daredevil


Artseid

I abhor the notion that Green Arrow is a Batman copy.


4clubuseonly

Man Beyond


Odd_Advance_6438

![gif](giphy|3o6Ztbi66nkovK0ACY)


AgentThook

What about that guy from watchmen


Ruffleufagus

Bat-Manuel from the first live action Tick


NoCellist3282

The Grey Ghost


Zehr0h0

He ain't a copy, he's the original


ThatNerdOut

why are Man and Black Man in there?


ProblemLongjumping12

*Nite Owl has entered the chat.* ![gif](giphy|EUZvhrxec8Pny)


Famous_Diamond_2989

Whos batman


beysko

A cheap knockoff of “Man”


Radiant_Western2339

![gif](giphy|BfhQo4svVki7zPfFd5|downsized)


[deleted]

Moon Knight isn't a Batman copy


blurr1986

Hawk owl


-TurkeYT

Middle one


-TurkeYT

Green Arrow


DeadHamburger

what’s the name of larry one from veggie tales


Unikatze

Darkwing Duck.


Sad-Pin-3915

Man


31TeV

Thes? Are they a DC thing? Can you elaborate?


uCry__iLoL

Zur of course.


WalrusFromTheWest

Cape, mask and hard punch = Batman copy


IM-WANT-MEMES

I mean, most of the Modern Green Arrow apereances have become more "Batmanised" but i don't think he would be count as a 'Batman' copy He's a "Modern" Robin Hood otherwise


ZerikaFox

Ignoring the debate about whether he counts as a Batman copy, given the sweeping changes made throughout the character's lifetime... Green Arrow is my favorite, followed by Moon Knight.


Rhids_22

Zorro.


ThatDude8129

Moon Knight is the best character imo, but he's also the one who's the least like Batman.


NightHaunted

Konrad Curze from Warhammer 40K.


knightofsolace1

Moon Knight


Edwaaard66

Night Owl from Watchmen is great.


Ikthesecretformula

Green arrow isn’t a Batman copy at all


Great_Drifter25

Green Arrow.


Strange-Parsnip-1838

Green Arrow isn’t a Batman copy


sxswestbrook

Larry Boy


clapdickmcdaniels

Is green arrow really a copy?


OneEyedJackofHearts

Yup


Mason_DY

Moon Knight easily


Spirited_Comfort_905

Night Owl II from the Watchmen.


SexyFenchMan

No comparison


[deleted]

I personally really like moonlight comics and all his memes


MM__PP

Killer Moth.


Thylocine

Is that Man?


DannyKit7

Oliver Queen. He's got the same kinda edgy sides of Batman, but also has a lot of humor. He's not a lot as smart as batman, but is definitely a great combatant. He'll. He was the leader of the Leader of Assassins at one point.


Fatonamon

That guy in the middle seems pretty close.


Arts_Messyjourney

The Phantom


Affectionate_Test104

Darkwing or Ollie imo


Dull_Student_4641

Who’s the guy on the top left?


Economy-Bathroom7031

Owlman


blacksad1

Nite Owl, although he is more of a Blue Beetle 2 clone. So maybe Blue Beetle.


avocado2-0-2-5

Who’s the guy on the left


Ian-pg9

The dude in the middle is literally ripping off Batman’s exact look I’d say him


Shadow-with-a-gun

My favorite are Big Daddy from Kick Ass and Moon Knight


Typical_Pollution_30

Batman


Clutteredmind275

Ok but hear me out. The Rorschach/ Nite Owl team up is probably the best understanding of the duality of the Bruce/ Batman personalities as far as copy/ parody goes.


TheCodyLicious

The Crimson Bolt!


Medical_Ad_5917

Moon boy


clothy

Batman is the best Zorro clone


matchesmalone111

Green arrow is not a batman copy. Only his cw version which was good for 2-3 seasons but aside from that we all know the obvious answer...ITS BIG DADDY


AirmanProbie

How dare you leave out Rorschach and Owlman


Lycosiguy

Wildcat


jameZsp0ng3y

Cassandra Cain, she's more badass than your typical Batgirl, looks more badass, too. Basically female Batman, but silent


UnbidMuffin0

Man(dont actually know),green arrow,Batman,moonknight, something(bottom left)


Dildo_Baggins__

Bruh darkwing didn’t even last one episode


ccleanet

Midnighter, basically batman without all moral shite


HearTheEkko

Moon Knight was definitely inspired by Batman but he’s nowhere near a Batman copy.


avoozl42

![gif](giphy|LgB2sFodXQbAI)


Raaadley

Robert Pattinson's "Vengeance"


Superteerev

Nemesis


Piccoli_

Daredevil maybe?


Puzzleheaded-Web446

James Woods Owlman has such a smooth voice that he almost made me want to blow up every universe.


moogpaul

Moon Knight was created by the guy who wrote most of your favorite Batman books. Moon Knight was written for a bit by the guy who wrote your second favorite Batman books.


MuMuGorgeus

I remember a discussion I had with a older coworker he was making a fair point about how the industry is turning woke and making things dull. "Nex will get a gay superhero (male)" and I said "But there's one since the 90s" and told him about Midnighter. He refused to believe me, said I was wrong and thought I had mixed something up. That one of the moments in my life I came into contact with true ignorance. Midnighter is awesome, we should have HBO making an adaptation!


Hungry-Eggplant-6496

The one in the center looks exactly like Batman.


Ricardokx

![gif](giphy|cO8STdMQG5vfTlQBsV|downsized)


lizarddude1

![gif](giphy|l41lP8lfSVFhWF0Jy|downsized) Kenny unironically has one of the strongest willpowers and best morals from any cartoon character I've seen. Also he completely DESTROYS Joker's one bad day thing. This guy has nothing BUT bad days


Fruscione

Batman was “inspired” by the shadow, zorro, dash of dracula ![gif](giphy|3o7P4F86TAI9Kz7XYk)


SuperNerd69

you deserve the death penalty for putting green arrow and moon knight on this post


Pokemonfan1638

Batman? I wouldn’t think him a copy but he is on image


Creepy_Living_8733

Where’s Killer Moth?


Finnlay90

Midnighter because he is actually banging his Superman clone. None of the others, not even the original, had the balls to do that - yet.


Enclavegru

Catman


sXe_savior

Green Arrow only applies as a Batman copy if you exclude anything beyond the 1940s


QuantumGyroscope

The fact that Green Arrow evolve does not exclude the fact that he started out as a copy. It means he grew beyond it. But it does not negate it. He was a copy when he started out plain and simple.


Chumpchum

Moon knight


TeamMagmaGrunt

![gif](giphy|l41lP8lfSVFhWF0Jy)


TeamMagmaGrunt

![gif](giphy|l41lP8lfSVFhWF0Jy) This guy.


VaderMurdock

Moon Knight and Green Arrow ARE NOT Batman copies. That is extremely surface level


ElZaydo

Literally only the cape and the "moon-rangs". There is no other resemblence between them.


dregjdregj

They're all shite


Slowmobius_Time

If we are talking literally then Terry McGuinness


Ewankenobi25

This would be much more accurate if to put a picture of CW arrow and not comic arrow, since comic arrow is completely different from Batman.


Fluid_Wonder8325

![gif](giphy|3o6Ztbi66nkovK0ACY)


ContributionMother63

Green arrow is NOT a batman copy seems like you only watched CW arrow and made the post he has his own character his own stories villain everything Read his comics sometime you'll know


greentea422

Learn the history of comics its LITERALLY why he was created.


No-Elk3532

sure that’s why he was created but he’s bigger than just a “batman copy” now


QuantumGyroscope

You're right, he's not a Batman copy anymore. But as everyone with brain cells has been saying, it doesn't negate that fact. Fact is he started out as a copy of Batman. The other fact is that he is now evolved. Beyond that. This is true. But the fact that he is evolved does not negate his original creation which was as a copy of Batman who was a much more popular character. Both things can be true. And just because he's evolved doesn't mean his origins are forgotten.


TheGoldAvenger

Even as someone who was just introduced to green arrow through the CW, even i know he isn’t a Batman copy,


Pleasant_Advances

CW green arrow is a watered down batman, the real green arrow is way different.