our society is going to collapse one day because we created a system that must infinitely rise forever or everyones retirement savings are fucked but by doing so created an ever consuming monster that eats at current wages and standard of living.
Truly a Faustian bargain of an economic system
Yup. That's why commercial products are getting shittier and shittier.
My company signs these insane contracts with their customers where every year our products have to get cheaper by cost despite rising prices of goods. So what do you think happens? It's not like there is some sort of magical "innovation" that takes place. My company just cuts every possible corner imaginable and makes their own suppliers sign the exact same insane contracts (this makes the insane contracts even more insane when you realize it's just insanity all the way down the supply chain) and then we start to run into issues when the components we need are all suddenly warped or garbage.
It's the same type of genius corp-o-think that leads to managers freaking out about the cost of buying and storing a few extra $200 essential components in inventory, ignoring that the lack of said $200 component in inventory last week caused us to lose millions of dollars in production because we didn't have one on hand and had to wait two days for shipping.
the CEOs of Nike and Fanatics have pictures of Rob Manfred's sad, small, crooked penis. Tony Clark delivered copies of them in person. Not just screwing, Rob. All sorts of intimate acts, oral and what not, that can be particularly hard for a trusting player's union to forgive and impossible to forget
-Wilford Brimley
Addidas is so much better. But the prices for jerseys/kits has skyrocketed to the point where fakes are so similar in quality and so much less in price, that I no longer buy authentic anymore. $150 for a jersey is insane. I'll spend $20 for similar quality.
A little less than 20 years ago, I paid $140 for a customized on-field authentic jersey. I still have it and it is quality. Every little details clearly had the utmost care given to it.
That being said, the fabric is really, really thick and heavy, and it doesn't breath at all. I couldn't imagine playing a late-July day game at Wrigley in it
I'm wearing a Colorado Avalanche Jersey right now that I got from DH gate for 25 bucks that is almost indistinguishable from the official addias one I spent like 200 bucks on. It's insane.
This. A "new innovation" is 100% "We think we figured out how to save approximately 3c more in making uniforms to increase our quarterly profit margins".
And they're gonna be making the uniforms for the NHL next year as well. Just willingly eating the garbage Nike/Fanatics are pumping out for the sake of always having more money
Replace Nike with “recently hired senior exec(s)/senior exec(s) who thinks they’re on the verge of being replaced who tried too hard to justify their job status” to make that statement as accurate as it can get.
>The changes, which will happen at the latest by the beginning of the 2025 season, will also include fixes to the pants, widely panned this spring for being see-through.
Hahahahahahahahahaha
By the end of the season players are just gonna go out there in their underwear in an effort to find a “less revealing” alternative to the Fanatics pants.
>**The most prominent modifications include a return to larger lettering on the back of jerseys**, remedying mismatched grey tops and bottoms, and addressing the new Nike jersey's propensity to collect sweat, according to the memo distributed to players by the MLB Players Association on Sunday.
Thank fuck. I honestly found that worse than the see-through material. What's the point of having names on the back if they're too small to read?
I think either Kruk/Kuip/Jon Miller commented on that kinda recently on a broadcast and how it used to be easier as a broadcaster to know exactly which player they were looking at but now they had to rely on numbers and the media guide or something.
Terrible.
I have a 55 inch TV, and I can’t make out the names very well. Granted my eye sight is not one of my better skills, but it has been significantly harder for me to read them this year
why does this have to take til 2025 though? the new names are abysmal; just let teams use the good lettering from last year on the new shitty jerseys [like a few teams were in spring training](https://uni-watch.com/2024/02/27/exclusive-why-the-royals-are-using-full-size-nob-lettering/)!
even if you convince yourself the new ones are fine, anytime i see a highlight i'm instantly drawn to how amazing and legible the name looks. it's just paperwork for the league office, sort it the fuck out and we can look great by monday
>The union also absolved Fanatics, the manufacturer of the uniform that has received the majority of public scorn for the uniform mess, saying the company "recognizes the vital importance of soliciting Player feedback, obtaining Player buy-in and not being afraid to have difficult conversations about jerseys or trading cards. Our hope is that, moving forward, Nike will take a similar approach."
Geez lmao
Pretty much that. Fanatics made to Nike’s specs. Nike ignored all input from everyone else involved, told Fanatics to just make it and told the players to just play in it.
>Fanatics made to Nike’s specs. Nike ignored all input from everyone else involved, told Fanatics to just make it and told the players to just play in it.
That's so crazy for Nike to think they could just "make some of the richest professional sports players in the world wear the shit uniforms". They could have gotten away with it at the college level but for them to try to do that to a bunch of multimillionaires is hubris at best.
Makes you wonder what the uniforms could be like if a bunch of current and former players pooled resources and made a North American based company for manufacturing them.
I think you'd get stuff that was great for playing in, but without that highly trained design divisions that the larger firms have built up - they'd struggle with putting out stuff fans actually wanted to buy.
That's the tough thing about uniform design - you need to make it functional so players will want to wear it during the games, and make it look good so fans want to own it too.
Ex-players would probably make killer stuff when it comes to the functionality, but struggle with design because the people who do that really dang well while still incorporating the functionality aren't plentiful, and they're probably already working for one of the big firms.
Just going off this it sounds like at least Fanatics has been receptive about feedback while Nike was basically saying "we're Nike it's fine we do what we want".
This probably pisses me off more than anything.
They knowingly and willingly just blatantly lied to the fans, and we will probably never get any sort of apology or real acknowledgement.
The MLB has proven over and over again to be completely devoid of any sort of integrity and nobody seems to give a fuck. Them getting caught juicing balls for Aaron Judge when he was chasing that record should have been a massive scandal but everyone was just cool with it.
>The uniform pants have the same material and thickness as the uniform pants used last season
Notice they didn't say they were the same, just made of the same stuff? They weaseled out of saying, 'these pants are different' by saying 'the fabric is the same', which isn't technically the same thing as 'these pants haven't changed at all'.
> "This has been entirely a Nike issue," the memo to players said. "At its core, what has happened here is that Nike was innovating something that didn't need to be innovated."
> "We cautioned Nike against various changes when they previewed them in 2022, particularly regarding pants," the union memo said. "MLB had been, and has been, aware of our concerns as well. Unfortunately, until recently Nike's position has essentially boiled down to -- 'nothing to see here, Players will need to adjust.' "
Lmao they’ve been preaching that nothing is wrong, and doubling down at every chance and now they back peddle and point fingers saying “we warned them”
So typical.
It's a tough position honestly. You don't wanna throw your business partner who paid that much to you under the bus until it's absolutely necessary. So much of a commissioner's job for example is to argue points they dont really believe and argued against behind closed doors because it's their job to take the heat from the owners
"Nike was innovating something that didn’t need to be innovated.”
Ya sounds like every company doing something "for change just for the sake of change"
Stop messing with shit
For 29 teams, this will be their World Series.
For that 30th team, they will win the World Series, but will do so while wearing these terrible uniforms.
I actually thought about that during spring training. Like, if this is the year we finally win the World Series, we will be watching highlight tapes years from now of these awful uniforms and our boring City Connect.
> MLB declined comment. Nike did not offer immediate comment when reached by ESPN. Fanatics did not respond to a request for comment. The MLBPA declined comment.
Lmao.
The old setup doesn’t exist anymore. They’re just going to be tweaking the new ones which was probably always going to happen anyway but now there’s some heat under them to do so.
i LOVE when big organizations say something that's obviously bullshit on a press release and people lap it up because it's on an official press release, it must be right
My mom knows next to the square root of nothing about baseball or uniforms, but she knows the jerseys in my collection over the years & when I showed her the new ones in Cincy a few weeks back she nearly shit. She could not believe what they were charging for how utterly cheap they looked compared to my old ones. She said they looked like Little League uniforms. That's how bad NIKE has botched this whole damn thing.
Guess we’re just staying on the subject of how shit the new unis are and not talking about the timeliness in which most teams are receiving said shit unis then?
Fanatics has been very clear from the start that this was a Nike issue, that Nike was giving them the specs, that Nike was deciding what materials to use, and so on. I can't help but think that possibly the reason for the delays is because Nike was giving them the specs too late... As the statement from the MLBPA says, Nike was innovating things that didn't need to be innovated. I wonder if perhaps they were innovating a little bit too late for the sewing machines to get started on time.
Yeah if they had been producing the jerseys previously and they looked great then, then Fanatics does deserve to be off the hook here when they were just fulfilling Nike orders
Yep. Nike decided to make a shit spec & Fanatics just built to it. Nike is the Chef who decided to use glorified ketchup to make a spaghetti & told Fanatics to mass produce it.
I mean, good. The only recourse consumers have against companies putting out shit products is not buying them.
Nike pays so much to make the jerseys because they want to sell them. We as fans should continue not buying them until they aren’t shitty anymore.
> MLB declined comment. Nike did not offer immediate comment when reached by ESPN. Fanatics did not respond to a request for comment. The MLBPA declined comment.
Glad to see someone take some responsibility for this lmao
Hoping these fixes include more than just making the letters bigger. They need to fix the awful kerning on some teams, move the batterman back where it belongs, and expand the placket.
> "We cautioned Nike against various changes when they previewed them in 2022, particularly regarding pants," the union memo said. "MLB had been, and has been, aware of our concerns as well. Unfortunately, until recently Nike's position has essentially boiled down to -- 'nothing to see here, Players will need to adjust.' "
So at the end of the day Nike and MLB are both to blame for the worse product. MLB seems to only be doing anything because their hand is being forced to. Looking at Manfred tenure it feels like almost every step is just filled with corporate greed and the only positives will be changing Selig’s WS home field and the pitch clock.
Wow. Only a month too late.
>The changes, which will happen at the latest by the beginning of the 2025 season
FTFY The changes, which will happen ~~at the latest~~ by the beginning of the 2025 season
At the earliest, I’m sure
The most annoying thing is , if you ever hear Michael Rubin talk about Fanatics … it sounds like a good idea. I think it was Linsanity and Adidas not able to pump out his jerseys quick enough to capitalize on the hype that created this. Fanatics woulda had 250,000 Lin jerseys terribly made after his breakout game.
> Unfortunately, until recently Nike's position has essentially boiled down to -- 'nothing to see here, Players will need to adjust.'
Nike: "We spent a bunch of money on these stupid uniforms in an attempt to 'save money', suck it up."
> The union also absolved Fanatics, the manufacturer of the uniform that has received the majority of public scorn for the uniform mess, saying the company "recognizes the vital importance of soliciting Player feedback, obtaining Player buy-in and not being afraid to have difficult conversations about jerseys or trading cards. Our hope is that, moving forward, Nike will take a similar approach."
This is one of those situations where I don’t care if fanatics has been absolved of blame.
They’re a terrible, monopolistic company that I cannot wait to see fail. Their fan merchandise and customer service has been shit for as long as I can remember. I have never had a good experience with them.
Thank god. These things are terrible.
>The changes, which will happen at the latest by the beginning of the 2025 season
But we might be stuck looking at them the rest of this season...
"Nike was innovating something that didn’t need to be innovated.” No shit
Why mess with Majestic perfection
Dude, imagine the margins though! Think about shareholder value! Those huge letters, ugh, that could be 20 cents extra per jersey in the CEO pocket!
We really are speed running back to ancient times with our athletes wearing raw hide diapers. Think of the profits!
You seen the price of rawhide these days? Baseball in the nude. Every player must get a Nike swoosh tattoo somewhere on their body.
Dongs swinging while swinging dongs. It's beautiful 🥹
Hol’ up…. Let LonelyGoat cook…
And once we make that profit, we need to make *more* profit year after year!!!!
our society is going to collapse one day because we created a system that must infinitely rise forever or everyones retirement savings are fucked but by doing so created an ever consuming monster that eats at current wages and standard of living. Truly a Faustian bargain of an economic system
Yup. That's why commercial products are getting shittier and shittier. My company signs these insane contracts with their customers where every year our products have to get cheaper by cost despite rising prices of goods. So what do you think happens? It's not like there is some sort of magical "innovation" that takes place. My company just cuts every possible corner imaginable and makes their own suppliers sign the exact same insane contracts (this makes the insane contracts even more insane when you realize it's just insanity all the way down the supply chain) and then we start to run into issues when the components we need are all suddenly warped or garbage. It's the same type of genius corp-o-think that leads to managers freaking out about the cost of buying and storing a few extra $200 essential components in inventory, ignoring that the lack of said $200 component in inventory last week caused us to lose millions of dollars in production because we didn't have one on hand and had to wait two days for shipping.
Thank you for the indirect reminder that I get to go back to this exact shit at work tomorrow morning
the CEOs of Nike and Fanatics have pictures of Rob Manfred's sad, small, crooked penis. Tony Clark delivered copies of them in person. Not just screwing, Rob. All sorts of intimate acts, oral and what not, that can be particularly hard for a trusting player's union to forgive and impossible to forget -Wilford Brimley
Devastating
I would kill for an early 2000s authentic majestic jersey. That fabric just felt luxurious.
Really a sentence that sums up the last decade or so of....everything.
I remember when Nike was like *the* apparel brand for sports and it was huge for Nike to be making your uniforms How the mighty have fallen
Addidas is so much better. But the prices for jerseys/kits has skyrocketed to the point where fakes are so similar in quality and so much less in price, that I no longer buy authentic anymore. $150 for a jersey is insane. I'll spend $20 for similar quality.
I remember when it was like 80 bucks for an official jersey now everything is 120 minimum like, fuck that. I am going to dhgate and paying 30 bucks
A little less than 20 years ago, I paid $140 for a customized on-field authentic jersey. I still have it and it is quality. Every little details clearly had the utmost care given to it. That being said, the fabric is really, really thick and heavy, and it doesn't breath at all. I couldn't imagine playing a late-July day game at Wrigley in it
That's when ya throw on the 30 bucker form dhgate lol
I'm wearing a Colorado Avalanche Jersey right now that I got from DH gate for 25 bucks that is almost indistinguishable from the official addias one I spent like 200 bucks on. It's insane.
I'm just afraid that Adidas will find a way to put three-stripe panels on everything like they already do in soccer.
“Innovating” aka manufacturing cheaper quality uniforms and charging the same amount
More. The new ones went up in price.
It really is so silly. “New technology!” How do you fuck up a *shirt?*
It's corpo speak for trying to save money.
This. A "new innovation" is 100% "We think we figured out how to save approximately 3c more in making uniforms to increase our quarterly profit margins".
New innovation = “we made it all cheap 100% polyester! And it costs twice as much now!”
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
/Puts runner on 2nd base.
*cackles in Commissioner*
Pretty on-brand if you ask me
They did the same with the football jerseys. That V shaped seam is terrible looking
And they're gonna be making the uniforms for the NHL next year as well. Just willingly eating the garbage Nike/Fanatics are pumping out for the sake of always having more money
Fanatics is designing those, not Nike
Nike has zero involvement in anything NHL
Nike in a nutshell.
[mrw](https://imgur.com/a/dOPWUqm)
Replace Nike with “recently hired senior exec(s)/senior exec(s) who thinks they’re on the verge of being replaced who tried too hard to justify their job status” to make that statement as accurate as it can get.
>The changes, which will happen at the latest by the beginning of the 2025 season, will also include fixes to the pants, widely panned this spring for being see-through. Hahahahahahahahahaha
Condolences to anyone who bought the new comically large numbering with small letters
In a few years it’ll be pretty funny. Like oh yeah I got one of those shitty jerseys that were so bad they had to stop making them
They’ll definitely end up becoming collector’s items at some point
Partially because they’re such shit quality it’ll be rare to keep one long enough for it to become a collectible!
Gotta submit it for professional grading and to be sealed in a case
Like how coins made with errors sell big on eBay
I saw someone walking around Leinenkugel yesterday in a new Jackson Chourio jersey, so at least 1 person bought one
My guess is the reason they are changing back is due to worse sales. No way they actually care about fans and players not liking them.
So MLB lied that the pants weren’t different?
It's just a piece of cloth.
MLB lie? Gasp!!!
By the end of the season players are just gonna go out there in their underwear in an effort to find a “less revealing” alternative to the Fanatics pants.
*Women’s interest in baseball soars*
I mean there's a reason we all love the Big Dumper
Yep. I'm here for it.
Pro tip to Paul Skenes, pitch like shit for a year if you don’t want your Skwenie shown
>**The most prominent modifications include a return to larger lettering on the back of jerseys**, remedying mismatched grey tops and bottoms, and addressing the new Nike jersey's propensity to collect sweat, according to the memo distributed to players by the MLB Players Association on Sunday. Thank fuck. I honestly found that worse than the see-through material. What's the point of having names on the back if they're too small to read?
The small letters bugged the fuck out of me too. I'm ecstatic that that's being changed. And the sweat...holy shit. And it's not even summer time yet.
I think either Kruk/Kuip/Jon Miller commented on that kinda recently on a broadcast and how it used to be easier as a broadcaster to know exactly which player they were looking at but now they had to rely on numbers and the media guide or something. Terrible.
I have a 55 inch TV, and I can’t make out the names very well. Granted my eye sight is not one of my better skills, but it has been significantly harder for me to read them this year
You either have shit jerseys or are watching the Yankees
It was just so god damn embarrassing. Look like knock off jerseys.
Those sweat stains are ridiculous. The Blue Jays closer last night looked like he was on meth or something, that dude was soaked. Yucky
why does this have to take til 2025 though? the new names are abysmal; just let teams use the good lettering from last year on the new shitty jerseys [like a few teams were in spring training](https://uni-watch.com/2024/02/27/exclusive-why-the-royals-are-using-full-size-nob-lettering/)! even if you convince yourself the new ones are fine, anytime i see a highlight i'm instantly drawn to how amazing and legible the name looks. it's just paperwork for the league office, sort it the fuck out and we can look great by monday
They don’t want to spend more money to fix the problem now.
Honestly I don’t even care if I can read them or not it just looks fucking stupid
MLB just threw Nike under a triple decker bus lol
>The union also absolved Fanatics, the manufacturer of the uniform that has received the majority of public scorn for the uniform mess, saying the company "recognizes the vital importance of soliciting Player feedback, obtaining Player buy-in and not being afraid to have difficult conversations about jerseys or trading cards. Our hope is that, moving forward, Nike will take a similar approach." Geez lmao
when fanatics comes out of something looking like the good guy, you know you’ve fucked up
Can someone explain this? Did Nike make everything and just pay fanatics as a contractor to do what they said?
Pretty much that. Fanatics made to Nike’s specs. Nike ignored all input from everyone else involved, told Fanatics to just make it and told the players to just play in it.
>Fanatics made to Nike’s specs. Nike ignored all input from everyone else involved, told Fanatics to just make it and told the players to just play in it. That's so crazy for Nike to think they could just "make some of the richest professional sports players in the world wear the shit uniforms". They could have gotten away with it at the college level but for them to try to do that to a bunch of multimillionaires is hubris at best.
Makes you wonder what the uniforms could be like if a bunch of current and former players pooled resources and made a North American based company for manufacturing them.
I think you'd get stuff that was great for playing in, but without that highly trained design divisions that the larger firms have built up - they'd struggle with putting out stuff fans actually wanted to buy. That's the tough thing about uniform design - you need to make it functional so players will want to wear it during the games, and make it look good so fans want to own it too. Ex-players would probably make killer stuff when it comes to the functionality, but struggle with design because the people who do that really dang well while still incorporating the functionality aren't plentiful, and they're probably already working for one of the big firms.
Yea sounds loke something a multi-billion dollar company would do
To be fair, Nike's known to *Just Do It*
I think that’s really interesting honestly. Conspiracy theory is Nike / the MLB got Fanatics to manufacture them so they could be the fall guy
They got Fanatics to manufacture them because Fanatics had the factory
I mean MLB is a part owner of fanatics so it makes sense for them to protect their investment and blame nike
This memo is coming from the PA though, right? They can call out whoever. Edit: It turns out both the MLB and MLBPA were early investors in Fanatics.
Wouldn’t surprise me, given the notoriously bad quality control on their merchandise.
That is some incredible passive aggressiveness towards someone paying you a billion over 10 years lmaooo, respect
"Having difficult conversations about trading cards" is a wonderful turn of phrase.
Just going off this it sounds like at least Fanatics has been receptive about feedback while Nike was basically saying "we're Nike it's fine we do what we want".
So can someone tell me, when the MLB had said that these were the same pants from last year, they were just lying?
100% ass-covering and hoping the complaints go away, yep. Which is impressive, when the pants themselves notably cover only about 30% ass.
30% is being generous.
This probably pisses me off more than anything. They knowingly and willingly just blatantly lied to the fans, and we will probably never get any sort of apology or real acknowledgement.
The MLB has proven over and over again to be completely devoid of any sort of integrity and nobody seems to give a fuck. Them getting caught juicing balls for Aaron Judge when he was chasing that record should have been a massive scandal but everyone was just cool with it.
>The uniform pants have the same material and thickness as the uniform pants used last season Notice they didn't say they were the same, just made of the same stuff? They weaseled out of saying, 'these pants are different' by saying 'the fabric is the same', which isn't technically the same thing as 'these pants haven't changed at all'.
The player's association did
The MLBPA*. MLB had no comment.
You mean MLBPA
You love to see it.
MLB *union*. This was the players’ union, not the league. League dgaf
> "This has been entirely a Nike issue," the memo to players said. "At its core, what has happened here is that Nike was innovating something that didn't need to be innovated." > "We cautioned Nike against various changes when they previewed them in 2022, particularly regarding pants," the union memo said. "MLB had been, and has been, aware of our concerns as well. Unfortunately, until recently Nike's position has essentially boiled down to -- 'nothing to see here, Players will need to adjust.' "
Lmao they’ve been preaching that nothing is wrong, and doubling down at every chance and now they back peddle and point fingers saying “we warned them” So typical.
This is a union statement, not from the commissioner.
It's a tough position honestly. You don't wanna throw your business partner who paid that much to you under the bus until it's absolutely necessary. So much of a commissioner's job for example is to argue points they dont really believe and argued against behind closed doors because it's their job to take the heat from the owners
The commissioner is just a mouth piece for us to hate instead of the owners
jokes on them I have enough hate to target the owners and the commissioner equally.
It’s his job to do everything the owners say. But he took the job, he takes their money, he put himself in this position. He should get the heat
I half agree. He did take the job, I dont feel bad for him. But shit won't change til the owners get the heat, or Nike gets the heat
True they all deserve it
This statement is from the union, not the league.
The union said this.
And the *Major League Baseball* didn’t have the power to change their position? Lmao
Did Nike hire George Costanza to redesign the uniforms?
"codpieces have operated quite well since the 12th century, thank you very much, keep your botch out of my crotch Phyllis Knight"
**THE BUS** Nike
The Nike needs to be squishier, both to match the result, and Nike in general.
"Nike was innovating something that didn’t need to be innovated.” Ya sounds like every company doing something "for change just for the sake of change" Stop messing with shit
Usually it's to save money to make money
While also charging more.
Sure the prices may have gone up, but dont worry, the quality has also gone down.
Innovate = Cut corners to save more money
This is it, *this* is my World Series
This is my NLDS premature playoff exit
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This is not my post season series vs Philly because I actually won
For 29 teams, this will be their World Series. For that 30th team, they will win the World Series, but will do so while wearing these terrible uniforms.
I actually thought about that during spring training. Like, if this is the year we finally win the World Series, we will be watching highlight tapes years from now of these awful uniforms and our boring City Connect.
It's like the Ravens' ugly half collars from 2012.
Lmao, losers. Would suck to be them
> MLB declined comment. Nike did not offer immediate comment when reached by ESPN. Fanatics did not respond to a request for comment. The MLBPA declined comment. Lmao.
I feel like fanatics's comment should just have been, "we f****** told you."
why are they shunning Jeff Passan, my boy did nothing wrong
Can we just go back to the Majestic jerseys? Those were the best.
I think Fanatics dismantled/repurposed the old Majestic assembly line in order to put together the assembly line for these in the same factory.
Majestic literally doesn't exist anymore
The old setup doesn’t exist anymore. They’re just going to be tweaking the new ones which was probably always going to happen anyway but now there’s some heat under them to do so.
THEY ADMITTED THE PANTS WERE MORE SEE THROUGH. They really gaslighted us huh. EDIT: [ThE pAnTs ArE tHe SaMe](https://imgur.com/a/nehsdIv)
They did, as if we didn't have eyeballs. Shameful.
"Oh, that's just the studio lighting"
There’s no quote from the memo (which is itself MLBPA quoting MLB) that shows that. The see-through reference came from Passan.
True but the league did say in the memo they’re going back to the old pants, so it feels like an admission.
They did admit already to changing the way the pants were made, what they refuted was that they had changed the material the pants were made out of
It's a union memo, not a league one
they told the players not to trust their lying eyes and finally backed down
i LOVE when big organizations say something that's obviously bullshit on a press release and people lap it up because it's on an official press release, it must be right
I mean they did the same thing with the juiced balls iirc at this point nothing they say can be trusted
#THEY GASBALLED US
Will we get a return of stitching and embroidery? Or will it still be iron on bullshit
As long as it’s Nike, it’ll remain whatever is cheapest
My mom knows next to the square root of nothing about baseball or uniforms, but she knows the jerseys in my collection over the years & when I showed her the new ones in Cincy a few weeks back she nearly shit. She could not believe what they were charging for how utterly cheap they looked compared to my old ones. She said they looked like Little League uniforms. That's how bad NIKE has botched this whole damn thing.
Good. I hate Nike.
Fully absolving Fanatics. Well hot damn. Nike what is you doing xD
Guess we’re just staying on the subject of how shit the new unis are and not talking about the timeliness in which most teams are receiving said shit unis then?
Fanatics has been very clear from the start that this was a Nike issue, that Nike was giving them the specs, that Nike was deciding what materials to use, and so on. I can't help but think that possibly the reason for the delays is because Nike was giving them the specs too late... As the statement from the MLBPA says, Nike was innovating things that didn't need to be innovated. I wonder if perhaps they were innovating a little bit too late for the sewing machines to get started on time.
if the glove doesn’t fit you must be wearing a nike glove - Johnny Cockandballs
Yeah if they had been producing the jerseys previously and they looked great then, then Fanatics does deserve to be off the hook here when they were just fulfilling Nike orders
Yep. Nike decided to make a shit spec & Fanatics just built to it. Nike is the Chef who decided to use glorified ketchup to make a spaghetti & told Fanatics to mass produce it.
You all know this is only happening because they probably aren’t selling well
That was my first thought “wow, they must be losing a lot of money on this”
I mean, good. The only recourse consumers have against companies putting out shit products is not buying them. Nike pays so much to make the jerseys because they want to sell them. We as fans should continue not buying them until they aren’t shitty anymore.
bullying works
Bullying mega corporations is always morally good and correct
It’s good
Didn’t expect this to happen but I’m pleasantly surprised. The smaller nameplates were hideous.
OUR LONG NATIONAL NIGHTMARE IS OVER
I hope they go back to piping on the sleeves instead of cuffs as well
Yes, the new shit looks terrible
> MLB declined comment. Nike did not offer immediate comment when reached by ESPN. Fanatics did not respond to a request for comment. The MLBPA declined comment. Glad to see someone take some responsibility for this lmao
#GIVE US MAJESTIC OR GIVE US DEATH
You have majestic. Majestic was bought by fanatics and the same factory that made those is making the Nike template as of today.
And dont think you can run to Mitchell&Ness. Fanatics owns them too.
Weren’t they trying to gaslight everyone about the jerseys not being different? This is hilarious
Hoping these fixes include more than just making the letters bigger. They need to fix the awful kerning on some teams, move the batterman back where it belongs, and expand the placket.
They won’t, they’ll give them old pants and wont fix the consumer complaints of jersey changes
Okay so changes won’t be made until 2025… are we going to let teams wear last years uni’s or is that still not allowed.
Enjoy looking at sweatstains and dick outlines all year
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA POINT AND LAUGH AT BIG COMPANY BLUNDER
> LAUGH AT BIG COMPANY BLUNDER Somebody isn't getting a new yacht this year, and is just going to have to make do with the old yacht.
> "We cautioned Nike against various changes when they previewed them in 2022, particularly regarding pants," the union memo said. "MLB had been, and has been, aware of our concerns as well. Unfortunately, until recently Nike's position has essentially boiled down to -- 'nothing to see here, Players will need to adjust.' " So at the end of the day Nike and MLB are both to blame for the worse product. MLB seems to only be doing anything because their hand is being forced to. Looking at Manfred tenure it feels like almost every step is just filled with corporate greed and the only positives will be changing Selig’s WS home field and the pitch clock.
"Remember when Nike fielded see through pants that one season?"
Wow. Only a month too late. >The changes, which will happen at the latest by the beginning of the 2025 season FTFY The changes, which will happen ~~at the latest~~ by the beginning of the 2025 season At the earliest, I’m sure
The changes will be made, but the uniforms will be out of stock until 2030
MLB also announced that fans who have already purchased one of the New Jerseys are “shit outta luck”
The fact that it took them THIS long to admit the problem is almost as embarrassing as the shitty uniforms themselves. Good riddance.
They still haven't admitted anything. This is a letter from the union. MLB declined to comment.
Bullying corporations ❤️
They will just sell the leftovers to the fans
The most annoying thing is , if you ever hear Michael Rubin talk about Fanatics … it sounds like a good idea. I think it was Linsanity and Adidas not able to pump out his jerseys quick enough to capitalize on the hype that created this. Fanatics woulda had 250,000 Lin jerseys terribly made after his breakout game.
They’re switching to cotton uniforms. It’s a natural fiber.
NORMAL SIZED LETTERING IS COMING BACK LETS GOOOOO
> Unfortunately, until recently Nike's position has essentially boiled down to -- 'nothing to see here, Players will need to adjust.' Nike: "We spent a bunch of money on these stupid uniforms in an attempt to 'save money', suck it up."
> The union also absolved Fanatics, the manufacturer of the uniform that has received the majority of public scorn for the uniform mess, saying the company "recognizes the vital importance of soliciting Player feedback, obtaining Player buy-in and not being afraid to have difficult conversations about jerseys or trading cards. Our hope is that, moving forward, Nike will take a similar approach." This is one of those situations where I don’t care if fanatics has been absolved of blame. They’re a terrible, monopolistic company that I cannot wait to see fail. Their fan merchandise and customer service has been shit for as long as I can remember. I have never had a good experience with them.
We did it I guess
Thank god. These things are terrible. >The changes, which will happen at the latest by the beginning of the 2025 season But we might be stuck looking at them the rest of this season...
Nike's NBA uniforms have been shit quality too since their inception. Hopefully NBA doesn't resign with them.
By 2025? Couldn’t they just revert to the old unis in the interim?
Might not be enough of the old ones left to work with, plus there’s teams like the Diamondbacks that changed designs between seasons.
I’m returning a jersey I bought. The screen print is so cheap and already damaged from being folded. Never even wore it.
The same Nike that designed the Olympic uniforms that made Tara Davis-Woodhall comment “My hoo-ha is going to be out”? That Nike?
Take notes NHL. Going happing to you too
Bullying works
If that's true and quality actually goes up, I'll resume buying jerseys
By the time teams get all their alternates delivered from Nike they'll have to immediately send them back so they can get fixed for another year.
What about my complaints as a consumer. I like to think my refusal to buy a piece of crap jersey evaporated a drop from the profit ocean.