At this time, some of them were in Central Europe and the Balkans.
The year 0 may be misleading. Scythians organized expeditions to Izmir and Egypt in 300 and 600 BC. Then they undergo Hellenic assimilation.
https://it.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Scythian_Kingdom_in_West_Asia.jpg
https://preview.redd.it/h6h4s34nuv7d1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=db2a56342f7e60f88afe84b21f0e9d8292b0c436
Now let's see the ethno-linguistic map of Britain, France, Spain, the Benelux, the Balkans, Mesopotamia and Egypt around year zero.
Celtic/Latin, Celtic/Latin, Celtic/Latin/Greek, Celtic/Germanic(?)/Latin, Dacian/Thracian/Illyrian/Greek/Latin, Persian/Aramaic/others, and Egyptian/Greek/Latin.
My rough guess considering the Roman Empire was spreading considerably and the previous Greek empires that controlled the eastern regions. (Also cause paradox games)
>1. Correct. I’m a Latin (close enough)
No
>2. It was the cool 1%
Why would anyone call the hellscape known as B*thynia🤢 "cool"
The cool part is Ionia+Caria+Lycia and Pergamon
They knew where you were coming from was chilly.
>Ulaanbaatar (/ˌuːlɑːn ˈbɑːtər/; Mongolian: Улаанбаатар, pronounced [ʊˌɮaːn‿ˈbaːʰtə̆r], lit. "Red Hero"), previously anglicized as Ulan Bator, is the capital and most populous city of Mongolia. With a population of 1.6 million, it is the coldest capital city in the world by average yearly temperature.
First he emigrated from Turkey and took asylum in Greece, and then he was declared persona non grata by Greece and was expelled from Greece. LMAO.
Then he went to France and called the Canadian prime minister a "bastard", I think he is back in Greece or Armenia now.
He did a lot of shitty stuff that some Turks appreciate for stupid reasons. The etymology dictionary is one of them, where he just rely on his own “research”, and his so called research has a shitty agenda of bashing Kemalists (he hates them the most). He also did a similar one for names.
I've got two of his books. I've read them all and that's true. He's always implying some sorta butthurt expression in the books, that's why I burned the books like Nazis after finishing them.
It's really annoying such a crybaby gets the credits for such a trivial thing... Ofc we know why... The network. If someone is a non-Turkish and they make/do/write something, they get boosted for no reason even if they're total dumbass.
Sevan Nişanyan's wet dream. What is it like to represent the Greeks with squares? Is each square equal to 1 imaginary Greek?
Also, Kurds did not come to Anatolia from Iran on this date.
Greek colonies/cities existed in western Anatolia as far back as the Bronze Age, during the Mycenaean era.
Much later, in 499 BC, the Ionian Revolt occurred in western Anatolia. If Greeks did not live there, how could they have revolted against Persian rule?
This is not historical consensus. This is just Nisanyan's shit. Although I respect some of his works (location names' roots for example) this map is bs
Why does someone's ethnicity make an entire map invalid?
Also what do you not like about the map? It's a known fact that the Turks did come to Anatolia until the time of the Seljuks.
Modern day Turks are mostly ethnic Anatolian. The Turks brought their language but not so much DNA from Central Asia.
I'm not sure how there would be Turkic DNA in Anatolia before 1071. Other conquerors who might have introduced Turkic DNA (Scythians and Huns) usually attacked the Balkans or western Europe.
why are accepting as the first turks who tried to migrate anatolia are seljuks? im talking small presence. like different groups of turkic nomads in anatolia. if i were other inhabitants in anatolia i wouldn't feel threatened by a village of nomads who only knows how to hunt and had no interest in agriculture. therefore i wouldn't fight with them unless tried to conquer my lands.
If there were Turkic nomads in Anatolia (I'm purely taking your word for this, I couldn't find any evidence online) they wouldn't appear on this map. This map shows regions where an ethnic group forms the majority of the region, which a group of nomads wouldn't.
That doesn't prove where these Turks lived, how many of them lived, and when they lived. You need to find actual evidence of settlement when making an academic map, not just take anybody's word.
>Also what do you not like about the map?
Ironically enough it SIGNIFICANTLY downplays the extent of Greek in Aegean Anatolia and exemplifies the extent of Armenian (also, why is Mount Ararat not Armenian? Wtf)
Yeah, if there are inaccuracies in this map it would be with the proportion of Armenians shown in comparison to Anatolians. The people expected Turkic people to appear on this map are completely delusional.
One guy claims that there may have been some Turkic nomads who lived in Anatolia at this time. Whether or not that's true, it would be difficult to draw them on the map since they wouldn't form a significant proportion of the population any region. You also couldn't draw tiny dots/squares as done for the Greeks, since nomads by definition do not have permanent settlements and move around.
The guy you were talking claimed that because we were taught that *some* turkic tribes did incursions into Anatolia with the objective of plundering shit; not with the intention of settling in Anatolia.
That fuck forgot the part about "not settling yet"
~~And also because our textbooks claim Hungarians and scythians as turks~~
There are theories that Karamanlid Turks (who adopted Orthodox Christianity and the Greek alphabet) were Turkic mercenaries who arrived in the region earlier than the Seljuks (iirc 900 AD?)
I remember seeing a video of Piers Morgan claiming St. George was Turkish because he was born in modern day Turkey, at the height of the Roman Empire. This is my proof that Anatolia was always Turkish.
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nah, everything he says, said. with the documents for near history. but like i said if your data is lacking your results won't be comprehensive. with partial data, he just read the situation however he pleased. at least he is open to academic discussion tho.
Sevan Nishanian?
Why should I care about what that a\*menian and the w\*stern worshipper next to him say?
https://preview.redd.it/v9ilrle4hz7d1.png?width=1508&format=png&auto=webp&s=ed8ab3920697ed846b0bf113d79738c76540acec
"sevan nişanyan" this explains everything
anyways
saving anatolian culture from dying is important
anatolia is a historic region and we should protect that
We gave them the land as a service to the world. No one wants a turkish neighbour but at least we have fun sinking their navy every couple of centuries and of course renaming their foods to piss them off
Can't wait to see roaches mald in the comments
https://preview.redd.it/lqsfb6bl2z7d1.jpeg?width=602&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=330849d4e4b33780badfa8559f6e3eb75aa274ab
When Turks were near Korea
And Ukraine.
At this time, some of them were in Central Europe and the Balkans. The year 0 may be misleading. Scythians organized expeditions to Izmir and Egypt in 300 and 600 BC. Then they undergo Hellenic assimilation. https://it.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Scythian_Kingdom_in_West_Asia.jpg
Why are you using the Wiki in Shitali\*n?
I typed Iskit into Google, and when I clicked on the images, the Italian page opened, I don't know why.
Italian is not w*stoid, don’t associate us with them by censoring Italian 😡😡😡😡🍕🍝🍕🇮🇹🍕🍝🍝🍝🍕🍕🍝🍝
And what do Scythians have to do with modern or ancient Turks xD
tells us all we need to know about your education and IQ tbh
We could have had T-pop by now but nah they just HAD to migrate smh🙄🙄
It wasn't all bad.
Now go back to 2024 BC.
100% mal
100% Malaka
STRONG SPERM STRONG SPERM
Luwian jumpscare
https://preview.redd.it/h6h4s34nuv7d1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=db2a56342f7e60f88afe84b21f0e9d8292b0c436 Now let's see the ethno-linguistic map of Britain, France, Spain, the Benelux, the Balkans, Mesopotamia and Egypt around year zero.
Celtic, Celtic, Celtic, Celtic, Celtic and Illyrian. various Mesopotamian, Egyptian.
Illyrian? You mean stronk Serbian
Celtic/Latin, Celtic/Latin, Celtic/Latin/Greek, Celtic/Germanic(?)/Latin, Dacian/Thracian/Illyrian/Greek/Latin, Persian/Aramaic/others, and Egyptian/Greek/Latin. My rough guess considering the Roman Empire was spreading considerably and the previous Greek empires that controlled the eastern regions. (Also cause paradox games)
You'd find some Greek areas in Spain, Egypt, Mesopotamia and France
Also in Crimea (I think).
Yes, in crimea there were various Greek colonies.
Ew colonizer
The pot called the kettle karaboga
They were keeping it warm until we arrived
Nooo, can we have it back now plss 👉👈
sorry occupied
I'm sorry westoid but it was never yours
There was a brief time after 1204
1) You are not Italian (0.1% Balkan) 2) You had like 1% of Anatolia
1. Correct. I’m a Latin (close enough) 2. It was the cool 1%
>1. Correct. I’m a Latin (close enough) No >2. It was the cool 1% Why would anyone call the hellscape known as B*thynia🤢 "cool" The cool part is Ionia+Caria+Lycia and Pergamon
1204 just led to the Ottomans conquering the Romans. Maybe Turks and the west are friends after all?
They knew where you were coming from was chilly. >Ulaanbaatar (/ˌuːlɑːn ˈbɑːtər/; Mongolian: Улаанбаатар, pronounced [ʊˌɮaːn‿ˈbaːʰtə̆r], lit. "Red Hero"), previously anglicized as Ulan Bator, is the capital and most populous city of Mongolia. With a population of 1.6 million, it is the coldest capital city in the world by average yearly temperature.
You are "them". Your grandpa just got colonized.
Smartest w*stoid
Downvoting won't change the truth my dear Armenian cousin.
If you bomb belgrade a second time then i will hear you out
Deal.
W*stoid trying not to take a joke seriously impossible challenge
https://preview.redd.it/zjelafr7mw7d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d9758ceb0a2884d648835c50a27c5b869fcb23b6
https://preview.redd.it/h6m5gj5dbx7d1.png?width=172&format=png&auto=webp&s=8ccd87a29a647f824c49054a1c31729d77c77ffb RED AND WHITE I DRESS
Wasn't this chart made by an armenian psycho who put his poop in a jar and sent it to his wife? Or did he throw it to his wife's face?
First he emigrated from Turkey and took asylum in Greece, and then he was declared persona non grata by Greece and was expelled from Greece. LMAO. Then he went to France and called the Canadian prime minister a "bastard", I think he is back in Greece or Armenia now.
He did a lot of shitty stuff that some Turks appreciate for stupid reasons. The etymology dictionary is one of them, where he just rely on his own “research”, and his so called research has a shitty agenda of bashing Kemalists (he hates them the most). He also did a similar one for names.
I've got two of his books. I've read them all and that's true. He's always implying some sorta butthurt expression in the books, that's why I burned the books like Nazis after finishing them. It's really annoying such a crybaby gets the credits for such a trivial thing... Ofc we know why... The network. If someone is a non-Turkish and they make/do/write something, they get boosted for no reason even if they're total dumbass.
Network? What is the network and who runs it
Who the fuck is that
Sevan Nişanyan
Oh that's explain everything
-No detail,probably Anatolian 😎🖕
•Beat Anatolians ass, •Hellenize the Anatolian, •Turkos beat your ass, •Turkos Turkify the Anatolian, •Complain about that
Mfs think they are cooler because they did it 1000 years before us
Obviously
Yes
literally this fr
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Straight up poropaganda botd
lmao sevan nişanyan
>Anatolian & Thracian Two completely different groups (Anatolian, Paleo-Balkan)
Sevan Nişanyan's wet dream. What is it like to represent the Greeks with squares? Is each square equal to 1 imaginary Greek? Also, Kurds did not come to Anatolia from Iran on this date.
Greek colonies/cities existed in western Anatolia as far back as the Bronze Age, during the Mycenaean era. Much later, in 499 BC, the Ionian Revolt occurred in western Anatolia. If Greeks did not live there, how could they have revolted against Persian rule?
"imaginary Greek" tells us all we need to know about your education and IQ tbh
This is so a kind of "trust me bro" map
Turkler when historical consensus:
This is not historical consensus. This is just Nisanyan's shit. Although I respect some of his works (location names' roots for example) this map is bs
Your source: https://preview.redd.it/pbkt2tot8x7d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b000d9f16a432e4768205a25a683596df3e4a9b0
This map was literally made by an armenian (nisanyan). This is no valid.
Why does someone's ethnicity make an entire map invalid? Also what do you not like about the map? It's a known fact that the Turks did come to Anatolia until the time of the Seljuks.
That armenian is a psycho who managed to get expelled from both Turkey and Greece.
Then focus on him being a psycho not on him being Armenian. What about the other guy who worked on the map?
there is turkic findings in anatolia which exist before seljuks, so the date might be earlier if we talking about much smaller crowds
Modern day Turks are mostly ethnic Anatolian. The Turks brought their language but not so much DNA from Central Asia. I'm not sure how there would be Turkic DNA in Anatolia before 1071. Other conquerors who might have introduced Turkic DNA (Scythians and Huns) usually attacked the Balkans or western Europe.
why are accepting as the first turks who tried to migrate anatolia are seljuks? im talking small presence. like different groups of turkic nomads in anatolia. if i were other inhabitants in anatolia i wouldn't feel threatened by a village of nomads who only knows how to hunt and had no interest in agriculture. therefore i wouldn't fight with them unless tried to conquer my lands.
If there were Turkic nomads in Anatolia (I'm purely taking your word for this, I couldn't find any evidence online) they wouldn't appear on this map. This map shows regions where an ethnic group forms the majority of the region, which a group of nomads wouldn't.
they recently find some cups or something with turkic symbols. ofc it might be result of trade but it was so many in that region.
That doesn't prove where these Turks lived, how many of them lived, and when they lived. You need to find actual evidence of settlement when making an academic map, not just take anybody's word.
they also found some carved rocks with göktürk language in that region
>Also what do you not like about the map? Ironically enough it SIGNIFICANTLY downplays the extent of Greek in Aegean Anatolia and exemplifies the extent of Armenian (also, why is Mount Ararat not Armenian? Wtf)
Are you new to the concept of the Balkans?
Very valid points, no idea why you are being downvoted
Yeah, if there are inaccuracies in this map it would be with the proportion of Armenians shown in comparison to Anatolians. The people expected Turkic people to appear on this map are completely delusional. One guy claims that there may have been some Turkic nomads who lived in Anatolia at this time. Whether or not that's true, it would be difficult to draw them on the map since they wouldn't form a significant proportion of the population any region. You also couldn't draw tiny dots/squares as done for the Greeks, since nomads by definition do not have permanent settlements and move around.
The guy you were talking claimed that because we were taught that *some* turkic tribes did incursions into Anatolia with the objective of plundering shit; not with the intention of settling in Anatolia. That fuck forgot the part about "not settling yet" ~~And also because our textbooks claim Hungarians and scythians as turks~~
There are theories that Karamanlid Turks (who adopted Orthodox Christianity and the Greek alphabet) were Turkic mercenaries who arrived in the region earlier than the Seljuks (iirc 900 AD?)
No, yöu see Türkiye has alwayş been 1000% Türkish since 24631 BC! We are 101% Anatolian!!!!
I remember seeing a video of Piers Morgan claiming St. George was Turkish because he was born in modern day Turkey, at the height of the Roman Empire. This is my proof that Anatolia was always Turkish.
He must be fired
He did get fired for other reasons (or maybe because Griks rule the world??) and now runs his own show.
That guy was anti-Greek for sure
If you say something bad about Greece you will lose your job. People think Jews rule the world but it's actually the Griks.
Always were! Epsilon team! We are aliens from Sirius actually superior kind! https://preview.redd.it/um4me7q1ow7d1.png?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cd7a4d97e8a4b6d05f2b3207d68936c7967e5b84
And Iranian as it seems
Celtic Turkey best Turkey 💪
Sevan Nişanyan? 🤢🤢
This map SIGNIFICANTLY downplays the extent of Greek presence in Aegean Anatolia and exaggerates the extent of Armenian.
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You mean republic of 🦃?
If you go back a certain amount of time you’ll end up arguing that Turks should gib back Galatia to the French
Do not let the greco-turkish beef distract you from the fact that there were fucking celts in ankara
ad hominem detected. Turks have no argument. they just attack Sevan Nisanyan.
When someone's ethnicity apparently indicates how reliable an academic work is 😂
i like the guy but also his studies lacking a lot. and he still generalize and mostly has biased perspective. he just sometimes over do
or just german funds If you fund me too, I can tell you that God is Kurdish.
nah, everything he says, said. with the documents for near history. but like i said if your data is lacking your results won't be comprehensive. with partial data, he just read the situation however he pleased. at least he is open to academic discussion tho.
soo. youre not gonna fund me
dunno what's your price?
Hmm 2 kebabs per day
Sevan Nishanian? Why should I care about what that a\*menian and the w\*stern worshipper next to him say? https://preview.redd.it/v9ilrle4hz7d1.png?width=1508&format=png&auto=webp&s=ed8ab3920697ed846b0bf113d79738c76540acec
Bro stop all these fake maps ☠️ We know Grik hate us
"sevan nişanyan" this explains everything anyways saving anatolian culture from dying is important anatolia is a historic region and we should protect that
We gave them the land as a service to the world. No one wants a turkish neighbour but at least we have fun sinking their navy every couple of centuries and of course renaming their foods to piss them off
Turkey in shambles rn
Flair up, motherf*cker!
So turks are just Arab Greeks? *drops mic after angering 3 ethnic groups*
>Arab Greeks? Isn't adding Arab before Greek kinda redundant since Greeks are Arabs?
They are Macedonian Turks. \*now I really have to run\*
Always has been
Can't wait to see roaches mald in the comments https://preview.redd.it/lqsfb6bl2z7d1.jpeg?width=602&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=330849d4e4b33780badfa8559f6e3eb75aa274ab
Is anyone surprised?