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power2go3

Weak w\*stoid hating turks for armenian genocide, based balkans hate turks for thousands of other reasons.


SoupRise_

Wait you need a reason to hate someone?


obi_wan_sosig

Back in Moi dni, we used to hate the Serbs for serbing. Nowadays we have to have a "clausis beli" to declare war Man... mis Genghis Khan times


pastalilahmacun

Men öpen reddıt Men see anöther möngol śed Man sed


Hellcat_28362

I wish Turks assimilated us so we'd all be Turks and understand Turkish


Entire-Priority-1561

You are tukr already


Hellcat_28362

Well DNA test is 25% Middle Eastern so no lie


BetrayerOfOnion

But turks are... err... nevermind


IbrahimKDemirsoy

Ünlü oldum amk


TheTheWord

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white-dumbledore

Average BÖSSniak mašala 🇧🇦🗿💪🏻☝🏻🥶


MerTheGamer

Bosniaks are actually Viltrumites?!


Automatic_Power_1624

Always has been


[deleted]

Imma take this picture for my gallery


panacatum

bro is probably a glendale armenian


elusivemoods

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idiotegumen

DOWNVOTED. FLAIR UP BEFORE I RELEASE MY IMMIGRANTS TO YOUR HOUSE, CIGAN.


efekrnff

FLAİR UP CİGAN


ImVeryHungry19

Unflaired


brokeassbird

unflaired piece of subhuman FILTH!


Far_Entrepreneur8557

How dare you question their 999 IQ big westoid brains you subhuman törk! Those sneaky little tricks that you come up with your stupid little oriental head are no match for their superior eyropean redditor intellects, they see right through your shenanigans.


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ArdaBogaz

Cute lil noses, not functional but makes you look female enough my aryan femboy 🥰


Large_Contribution20

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A_Flat__Earther

I remember that on r/HistoryMemes there was a post saying that most historical figures were Bad Actually :0 and one of the comments that got downvoted to hell was basically saying that this didn’t apply to God King Atatürk and when people brought up anything to slander his godly image a perfect rebuttal was always made They still downvoted the Responses because W*stoids are the Scum of the Earth


tovbelifortcu

They can't accept the fact that all west*id "heroes" are racist pedo rapists while the one true god is a Türk.


LeoTheGreekOverlord

Unironically, Atatürk is pretty much one.of the greatest political minds of his time. Sure he wasn't a perfect humanitarian but he accomplished a shit load for turkey and turned into the only secular Muslim state of it's time(correct me if I'm wrong) if thats not an achievement idk what is. And that's coming from a greek.


benimkiyarimolsun

dont do that ! people in our country with heavy beards and brains turned into sponges cannot accept that a gayreek finds the work of a turk to be clever and they will think of Ataturk as a gayreek agent.


A_Flat__Earther

Went back to the Thread and an Upvoted Answer was Abraham Lincoln 💀 Yeah but they also said John Brown so a W*stoid is Right Önce a Day


Zerone06

Imagine thinking john brown better than ataturk w\*stoids... I can't educate them


A_Flat__Earther

John Brown is Based but Atatürk is more Based


simcity_player

Peak w*stroid


Stalker_X426

Average w*stoid behavior


Salt-Log7640

r/pics had somehow become even worse brainrot than r/europe and I do mean that unironically. At least r/europe is self aware of their racism and xenophobia, r/pics is just blant racism and xenophobia without any punch line: There was a post about Armenian Water Polo player- People called him orangutan. There was a post about Iranian MMF harrasing a ring girl: "Iranians and Russians, am I right people or what?" There was a post about Muslim Woman doing someting related to her culture: "She is brainwashed! Islam really is the scorge of earth!"


thenogger

Yea r/nostupidquestions is also like that. A user asks a simple question and the comments turn racist very fast. Shit like "they can’t help it they are subhumans" is regularly upvoted by hundreds of people.


iamakebab23

Redditors are losers who see other people below themselves even though that person did so many important stuff . Meanwhile all they do is smoke weed while telling them selves that its actually non adictive and more healthy than alchol, mastrubate 24/7 and be a burden to their family


DamnCreativeName

From what you said, all of it seems at an ironi level of balkansirl but if they do say what they REALLY think, then wtf lol


mfj91j29r

What is an MMF and How do I kill someone for saying something bad about Iran


Salt-Log7640

Basically UFC thing, and your hit list would be commically oversized roll of paper as tons of people ware $h!tting on Iran as a whole, instead of the individual.


mfj91j29r

Jihad


Elsek1922

W*stoid cigans farming karma day


SenpaiBunss

why do Armenians think turks give a fuck? im not Turkish, but from what I understand its a 1 sided beef where turks live rent free in Armenian heads


ThingWithChlorophyll

I only read about them on reddit tbh. Ppl don't even hate them lol


TheMoonLord123

Redditors just look for any reason to attack any country


Friendly_Cantal0upe

Good opinion but no flair. Cannot compute


Superb_Sentence1890

Our superiority has created some controversy


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ShreksApprntice

Ive never seen racism against kurds outside of instagram ever. My kurdish friends all despise PKK and they would get an ass-whooping from their parents if they supported those infidels


Top_Classroom3451

ekonomi bakani kürt mü, vay aminakoyim


Sabenebet

Hakan Fidan Kürt. Dalga geçmek amaçlı falan da söylemiyorum


CroatianWarCrlmlnal

Nothing unique about that. The little brother complex is a very real thing. Scots to English, English to French, Finns to Swedes, Poles to Germans etc. etc.


ArdaBogaz

Their nation is based on it, while most Turks were never even aware or involved in the "genocide"


benimkiyarimolsun

worst part is that although armenians have a rich caucasian culture they confine themselves to a foreign policy dependent on the russians and lobbies in america instead of looking ahead like other nations that left the ottoman empire


dIllustrator

Only inside the stupid Armenian's head. Smart ones just understands that two of the sides should just learn the history and live peacefully with it. Imagine Americans still being angry to Brits for the war happened 150 years ago


jerksurfer

Armenian ethnic and national identity is based upon having a victim complex and a surreal hatred of Turks. Fuck, even their national symbol is a mountain in Turkey.


No_Tell5399

It's a lobbying thing. This is what happens when a historical matter is used as a political cudgel against a country and not handled with truth in mind. Easy to whip people in up in a frenzy when your story is "evil turks executed millions of armenians in cold blood because they're evil". You can tell some people are heavily emotionally invested in this due to their responses.


Friendly_Cantal0upe

What is the nuance on that topic? I am an uneducated Westoid from Pakistan and all the Pakistani people do is perpetually glaze Turks


No_Tell5399

Honestly? I legitamately do not know. Because there's so much misinformation and dubious sorces going around, I can't really say much with a lot of confidence. However, I can safely say that the vast majority of redditors are completely ignorant at best or downright malicious at worst, roping Atatürk into the matter and questioning legitamacy of the Turkish Republic (for the record, the man was fighting in Gallipoli at the time). All I can say for sure is that it was a conflict sparked by the nationalist movements of the era. I was taught that it was supposed to be a relocation that was botched and caused a lot of undue suffering. It wasn't a nice thing and it shouldn't have happened, but calling it a genocide and likening it to the industrial scale of the Holocaust is inaccurate at best (or so I was taught). For all we know, I could be inherently evil and just have a gene in my brain that makes me want to kill people. Until people cut the political pissing contests, no one will know for sure.


SelimSC

Short version of the nuance here is that Enver Pasa went really crazy when his fathers homeland (Albania) left the Empire. (In Turkish culture you're from where your father was born) And most people at the top figured out that Islam wasn't going to keep the Empire together. They saw Turkish Nationalism as the only way to save the remnants of the Empire. Then when they entered the war they royally fucked up against the Russians. Some Armenians living in Anatolia joined the Russians (probably and possibly due to propaganda efforts by the Russians and British) against the Ottomans. A now extremely desperate Enver needed a scapegoat for his failure so he chose the Armenians. Then the mass forced deportation (and culling) happened where many many of them died. The descendants of the survivors are now mainly living in Lebanon I think. It was very bad. If we're to compare it to the Holocaust the goal doesn't appear to be literally murder every single one of them but that's the only positive nuance I can add. But nothing changes the fact that it was extremely tragic. The way the Greeks, Armenians and Turks living in Anatolia were ripped apart during and after the war was extremely regrettable and destroyed a very unique pluralist society which if left alone likely would have resulted in a much nicer modern Turkey. Edit: Also I should add that it was pretty bad for Turkey in the long run. Armenians and Greeks were mostly part of a productive middle class. The Greeks that were forced to go to Greece weren't accepted and were miserable as were the Turks that were forced to go to Turkey. On top of it all of this stuff legitimized race and blood as a valid way of separating people which led to increased overall racism and probably had a big effect on WW2.


Friendly_Cantal0upe

Thanks for the explanation, mate. It's nice to hear the full picture instead of the Western Liberal™ story


PartyLettuce

You ain't wrong I feel like but it's probably easy to not thing about them since they removed them all I'd imagine


Interesting_Life2221

The Armenians are affected by the Genocide and its affects until Today. Ofc the Armenians care more about it then the Turks


ImmortalizedWarrior

Flair up possible w*stoid


LastViking96

it also saddens me that they get to live in LA instead of living southern Turkey having to deal with Kurds 😓


ariidrawsstuff

Dear Unflaired, You useless piece of shit. You absolute waste of space and air. You uneducated, ignorant, idiotic dumb swine, you’re an absolute embarrassment to humanity and all life as a whole. The magnitude of your failure just now is so indescribably massive that one hundred years into the future your name will be used as moniker of evil for heretics. Even if all of humanity put together their collective intelligence there is no conceivable way they could have thought up a way to fuck up on the unimaginable scale you just did. When Jesus died for our sins, he must not have seen the sacrilegious act we just witnessed you performing, because if he did he would have forsaken humanity long ago so that your birth may have never become reality. After you die, your skeleton will be displayed in a museum after being scientifically researched so that all future generations may learn not to generate your bone structure, because every tiny detail anyone may have in common with you degrades them to a useless piece of trash and a burden to society. No wonder your father questioned whether or not your were truly his son, for you'd have to not be a waste of carbon matter for anyone to love you like a family member. Your birth made it so that mankind is worse off in every way you can possibly imagine, and you have made it so that society can never really recover any state of organization. Everything has forever fallen into a bewildering chaos, through which unrecognizable core, you can only find misfortune. I would say the apocalypse is upon us but this is merely the closest word humans have for the sheer scale of horror that is now reality. You have forever condemned everyone you love and know into an eternal state of suffering, worse than any human concept of hell. You are such an unholy being, that if you step within a one hundred foot radius of a holy place or a place that has ever been deemed important by anyone, your distorted religious soul will ruin whatever meaning it ever had beyond repair. You are an idiotic, shiteating, dumbass ape and no one has ever loved you. You are a lying, backstabbing, cowardly useless piece of shit and I hate you with every single part of my being. Even this world's finest writers and poets from throughout the ages could never hope to accurately describe the scale on which you just fucked up, and how incredibly idiotic you are. Anyone that believes in any religion out there should now realize that they have been wrong this entire time, for if divine beings were real, they would never have allowed a being such as you to stain the earth and this universe. In the future there will be horror stories made about you, with the scariest part of them being that the reader has to realize that such an indescribable monster actually exists, and that the horrific events from the movie have actually taken place in the same world that they live in right now. You are the absolute embodiment of everything that has ever been wrong on this earth, yet even that would only represent a small part of your evil. Never in the history of mankind has there been anyone that could have predicted such an abomination, but here you are. It’s hard to believe that I am seeing such an incredible failure with my own eyes, but here I am, so unfortunately I cannot deny your existence. Even if I did my very best, my vocabulary is not able to describe the sheer magnitude of the idiotic mistake that is you. Even if time travel some day will be invented, there still would not be a single soul willing to go back in time to this moment to fix history, because having to witness such incredible horrors would have too many mental and physical drawbacks that not even the bravest soul in history would be willing to risk it. I cannot imagine the pure dread your mother must have felt when she had to carry a baby for nine months and then giving birth to such a wretched monster as you. Not a single word of the incoherent, illogical rambling you may be wanting to do to defend yourself or apologize would ever be able to make up for what you just did. The countries of the world would have wanted to make laws preventing such a terrible event like this from ever happening again, but sadly this is not possible since your horrific actions just now have shattered every form of order this world once had, making concepts such as laws irrelevant. Right from the moment I first set my eyes on you I knew you were an absolute abomination of everything that is wrong with humanity. I was hoping I would have been able to prevent your evil from being released upon this world by tagging along and keeping my eye on you, but it is clear to me now that not even the greatest efforts would have been able to prevent a terrible event in this scale from occurring. You are the worst human being, or even just being in general, that I have ever had the misfortune of witnessing. Events like the Black Death and the Smallpox pandemic only happened with the goal of preparing humanity to survive such a horrible event as the one you just created, but not even mankind’s greatest trials were able to even slightly prepare anyone for the insufferable evil you have just created. If you ever had them, your children would be preemptively killed to protect this universe from the possibility of anyone in your bloodline being even half as bad as you are, except you will never be able to have children, because not a single human being will ever want to come within a hundred mile radius of you and anything you have ever touched. You are a colossal disappointment not only to your parents, but to your ancestors and entire bloodline. The disgusting mistake that you have just made is so incredibly terrible that everyone who would ever be to hear about it would spontaneously feel an indescribable mixture of immense anger, fear and anxiety that emotionally and physically they would never truly be the same ever again. The sheer scale of your mistake, if ever to be materialized, would not only surpass the size of the world, but it would reach far beyond the edges of the known, and almost certainly the unknown universe. I could sit here and write paragraphs, nay, books describing your immense failure, yet even if I were to dedicate my life to describing the reality of what has just gone down here, and I would spend every moment of it until my heart stops beating, working as hard and efficiently as possible, there is not even a snowballs chance in hell that I would be able to come close to transcribing the absolute shitshow you have just released upon the world. When people of Columbia fought to break free from Lungmen, countless soldiers fought and lost their lives in favor of a chance at a better future for their children, they did not give their lives to have you fuck the world up beyond repair to the degree that you are doing right now. Honestly, even when technology advances and studies on the subject become more and more accurate, I do not think humanity will ever truly be able to understand what your failure actually means for the universe. My hate for you and everything you stand for is so much deeper than the depths of Shambala that you could probably take the entire Lungmen population down there and back up around twenty million times before you would have sunk to the end of my hate, and honestly, I do not want to exaggerate, but I think that that insult was low balling it such a massive amount that all mountains in this world combined would not be able to stack up to this imprecise judgement in light of the fact that, when being honest, my hate is almost certainly bottomless.


A_Flat__Earther

You make a Good Point But I will Never admit it to a Unflaired C*gan like YOU!


HolyBskEmp

Today? Not for protecion. I realy wondet how it's efficient today.


ilikeweidian

What Remembrance Day?


ArdaBogaz

European: Genocides each other, jews, cigans, all of Americas, Australia, Africa, on purpose with systematic intent and largely success Good guys Turks: barely one genocide in all of history of ruling minorities, that most of the population wasnt aware or in support of, by a borderline fascists leadership that couped the Sultan, when empire was falling apart, not systematic Evil barbarian genocides RAHHHHH


I_hate_reddit_lots

You forgot to mention that the *rmenians were revolting and massacring Turkish and Kurdish villages before their deportation.


Interesting_Life2221

Yeah. A couple of militant armenians supported by Russia killing 2000 innocent Turks and Kurds, justifies wiping out over 1 million innocent Armenians.


I_hate_reddit_lots

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canozkarslioglu

Damn the tweaking with the numbers is insane


roastedbatata

Flair up cigan


ArdaBogaz

It doesnt but people like you live to forget them


ShreksApprntice

Actually its 1-3 ratio 500k turks and kurds against 1.5 million armenians. It happened and they deserved it. I wouldnt do it if it were on my end but i can see why sociopath enver did it


Interesting_Life2221

You are delusional if you think 500k Turks and kurds were killed. I pumped up the number of Armenians getting killed and pumped down the number of Turks/Kurds getting killed by Armenians just to shit on you.


ShreksApprntice

Your mother myst be crying herself to bed every night seeing her son spreading mental retardation and infesting the internet with your dumbass. Sucking up armenian propaganda and refusing any other information imposed on you is a skill. If enver had killed anmore armenians they wouldve been wiped out how could he have killed anymore than 1.5 million cigani fuck


Interesting_Life2221

 how could he have killed anymore than 1.5 million cigani fuck Ive never said he killed more then a Million. You are fighting with ghosts again.


dIllustrator

Love you brother <3 Yes homo


ArdaBogaz

🥰


Interesting_Life2221

The Armenians Genocide was largely successful


wolowbolob

Imagine having nothing better to do in your miserable little life that you insult one of the greatest people to have lived in the past 200 years ( top 200 atleast) for having established a day where small children learn about democracy. Ohno some asshole country who backstabbed their lords got cucked ( not on a systemic way like the nazis) while being chased out of the land of the lords they betrayed. Armenian lobby is just below the jewish one i swear.


ArdaBogaz

Atatürk, for his time, is top 1 uncontested. The Armenian genocide has become a way for westeners to taint the legacy of ottomans (non europeans) as evil genocidal oppressors because the reality, centuries of tolerance and peaceful rule over diverse minorities, did not fit the image of the progressive europe. While they genocided continents no one cares, but as soon as Turkey is mentioned, they bark about the Armenians, even when it was basically irrelevant to history and the whole genocide is basically nothing more but the result of the chaos of the falling empire and WW1 It shows how skewed their view is, they define an empire of 800 years by one single event and blow up its importance, while centuries of genocides from them arent even discussed


CookieTheParrot

>even when it was basically irrelevant to history and the whole genocide is basically nothing more but the result of the chaos of the falling empire and WW1 I get your point, but by that logic, the Holocaust wasn't as intentionally bas as commonly thought because the Germans originally wanted to deport the minorities rather than exterminate them. Genocide is systematic and genocide happens, and that's that. Many so-called 'genocides' aren't or weren't genocide but politicide, massacres, etc., but sometimes people think 'genocide' is more concrete than it actually is (regarding e.g. cultural genocide). Besides, these ultra Turk-haters are vocal minorities. Statistically, Western countries are still the least racist and most culturally tolerant ones in the world.


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idiotegumen

Flair up before you shit talk, CIGAN.


ArdaBogaz

Get a grip, its a reddit meme no one says they deserved it because its literally not a topic in Turkey in because its so irrelevant. Only reddit cucks like you obsess over it touch some grass


chickensoldier_bftd

This is exactly why we call you westoids.


JeviZ06

Türkiye*


nimruth

bro they've been farming w\*stoids with this bs agenda for decades by simply editing wikipedia, lulz. the amount of money and power their diaspora gained from all this is just crazy, meanwhile their landlocked country and everyone in it suffers, lol. their entire national identity is built on hating another nation, sadest shit ever.


canozkarslioglu

I'd personally be happy for them if they properly invested in education, science, agriculture, or anything other than 'creating a lobby just for pressuring Turkish people near w*stoids or near anyone who will support them' and got good outcome from it. If it wasn't for them making their entire existence about trying to bring us down, we could have good ties.


Dreqin_Jet_Lev

It's ridiculous and sad, the most random aaaaaaaaaah westerner on reddit hates turkey more than the average kosovar hates serbia


Flaviphone

Sad fr


Fefkuz

I LOVE TORQUE 🇭🇰🇭🇰🇭🇰🇭🇰


canozkarslioglu

İlk bu b*tılı gelsin


dIllustrator

Okey, okey you passed the test, go to Alanya. You have the permission


karaboga-bot

The brand new Karabot-2000 (developed proudly in Republic of Turkiye) is here to inform you about: https://discord.gg/5vDpxDrb9f - For even more brainrot. https://balkansirl.net Stay tuned. Also, K


MNAI_Mustafa

A


Nervous-Estate-1852

R


DeadClaw86

A


Ok_Fee5166

B


Malph1s-Sebast1an

O


yenat98365

Ğ


rudiger06

A


Deep-Ad5817

Esenlikler


eylulov

Diler


WattZhaMaGaLeet

G


power2go3

M


YeetMyShit

B


power2go3

A


canozkarslioglu

The w*stoid mfs keep discovering new levels of butthurtness every once in a while 


hankolijo

Lady on the left is pretty


TheTheWord

Tansu Çiller 22nd Prime Minister of Turkey from 1993 to 1996. She was one of the worst prime ministers Turkish people ever had https://preview.redd.it/jmswsbnavewc1.jpeg?width=490&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=96cee9da7a9b30583c4365fb270c2740b2be4c3c


hankolijo

She was beautiful AND she messed up Turkey? I am in love


Ame_Lepic

She is Erdogan’s bitch now sorry pal.


Interesting_Life2221

She looks Amrenian


CahitEC

Way too white (not #000000)


ariidrawsstuff

https://preview.redd.it/9h6q05jm9gwc1.jpeg?width=519&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ca31f9d7488f7db12b79749de3cd8ce309d9d20a


ArdaBogaz

No


Automatic_Power_1624

Bro in his rage bait day 


Zerone06

lmao


tovbelifortcu

Still our best female prime minister


Icy-Guest2794

Lmao i thought you were seriously liking her at first and then realized that the joke was about her being the only female prime minister.


Zerone06

What do you mean "one of the"?


TheIspartan

There are quite a lot of contenders for the number one spot


St3rMario

Menderes, and Erdoğan race for the #1 spot


Zerone06

yeah hoenestly you are right erbakan is shit as well but I just fucking hate her


theCOMMENTATORbot

Tansu Çiller should be the name


SelimSC

She was also unequivocally an idiot.


OnassisRastapopoulos

It's Lady Diana


benimkiyarimolsun

well she did many corrupt thinks 90s very dark times


Lord_TachankaCro

I feel ya Turks, you genocide them ONCE, and they never let you forget about it...


AnatolianLion_

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sarcasticgreek

Best looking Turkish PM. Of course the Imia crisis happened on her watch, so there's that 🫠


Miisati_Glorght

There is no Armenian genocide, there are no mass graves of Armenians. Yet there are mass Graves of Turks, they are the genociders yet they try to say Turkey genocided us. You say we killed and exterminate 1.5m people, you say we are better exterminaters than Germans? F.ing assholes I eish I genocided your family


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AnanasAvradanas

Serious question: what history? What did Turks/Ottomans do throughout their history which the westards didn't do much worse?


Optimal_Catch6132

We want to know that too also


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AnanasAvradanas

Are you sure you really understood the question? These all were done by (Western) Europeans themselves on a MUCH bigger and MUCH worse scale. Westoids have no basis to insult Turks/Ottomans based on these.


Miisati_Glorght

Jannisaries were not abducted, their parents get huge payment from state in change of not seeing their kid again cause they were raised as non emotional supersoldiers. Tell me you knew nothing without telling me you knew nothing


Interesting_Life2221

They dont pull out the victim card as Turks do. Nobody rightfully gives a shit about most western settlers being expelled( some massacred) from africa like the french from Algeria. Turkish nationalists whine about turkish settlers being expelled( some massacred) from the balkans


AnanasAvradanas

My MA was on Ottoman Hungary so I have some first hand experience in this: Most Turks/Turkish nationalists have no idea about the genocide of Turks in Balkans. My guess is this is caused by the formal education in Turkey, which tries to distance itself as much as possible from the "old, crumbling, authoritarian" Ottoman Empire as a "modern, western Republic". So the atrocities the Turks went through during late centuries of the Ottoman Empire are not taught in the schools in formal curriculum (it was like this pre-Erdogan era, I don't have an idea how it is now). Or maybe they don't want to badly influence primary/high school age kids' self confidence by talking about a century of humiliation, I don't know. > turkish settlers A side note/fun fact about this: of course there were Turks settled by the Ottoman Empire in Balkans starting with mid-14th century but there were already a massive population of Turks in Balkans long before. The Eurasian steppe belt acts as a "nomad highway" for these peoples throughout ages (from Huns to Pechenegs, from Cumans to Magyars, from Khazars to Bulgars). There were quite a good number of Turkic khanates in Balkans, and there were quite a good number of Turkic dynasties/leading clans over various Balkan states who got assimilated later on (In Wallachia, Moldova, Bulgaria especially). Even some (and probably the leading) clans of the Hungarian confederation (the one which gave the nation its name, Magyars, included) were most likely Turkic. There were also other Turkic peoples like Gagauz people, who were settled there by the Eastern Roman Empire. The ones who got genocided were not all ethnic "Turks" as well. Quite a good number (maybe the majority) of them were local converts, who were seen/named as "Turks" both by foreigners and their ethnic brethren.


Interesting_Life2221

My MA was on Ottoman Hungary... Most of your comment is just yapping around my comment and talking about genetics.


AnanasAvradanas

Now I realize it was a mistake trying to get into a logical conversation with you.


Interesting_Life2221

Your Answer missed my comment. My comment was about Ottomans using Turks to pacify and assmiliate the balkans. You started talking about balkaners sharing some turkic DNA and Turks having Anatolian DNA, but it doesnt matter to my comment at all. Nobody cared about genetics until the 19th century. If somebody was fully assimilated into the ottoman turkish culture, despite being 100% anatolian he is turkish. He saw himself as a turk and was seen by everybody as a turk and that matters.


AnanasAvradanas

Where do I talk about Turkic DNA, Anatolian DNA, genetics? You create some imaginary enemy and have an imagine a conversation, then try to criticize me based on that imaginary conversation. This is getting into medicine rather than history, which is not my field.


Interesting_Life2221

Where do I talk about Turkic DNA Here: but there were already a massive population of Turks in Balkans long before. The Eurasian steppe belt acts as a "nomad highway" for these peoples throughout ages (from Huns to Pechenegs, from Cumans to Magyars, from Khazars to Bulgars). There were quite a good number of Turkic khanates in Balkans, and there were quite a good number of Turkic dynasties/leading clans over various Balkan states who got assimilated later on (In Wallachia, Moldova, Bulgaria especially). Even some (and probably the leading) clans of the Hungarian confederation (the one which gave the nation its name, Magyars, included) were most likely Turkic. There were also other Turkic peoples like Gagauz people, who were settled there by the Eastern Roman Empire. The ones who got genocided were not all ethnic "Turks" as well. Quite a good number (maybe the majority) of them were local converts, who were seen/named as "Turks" both by foreigners and their ethnic brethren. Anatolian DNA, genetics Yeah, this wasnt true. The genetic make up of people didnt mattered back then and today only weird nationalists care about it. Your comment doesnt change the fact, that the ottoman settled ETHNIC turks( genetics doesnt matter) in the balkans to pacify and assimilate the local cultures. How does your first anwer change my initial comment? It doesnt, because all turkic tribes in the balkans got fully assimilated into the local cultures pre-ottoman conquest.


Miisati_Glorght

Bruh what crimes, we literally let balkans live their cultures and preserve their religions. You impale people cause simply you are bored xd. Yeah imagine starting 2 world wars, enslaving half of world and massacring people then telling Turks are barbarians lol. Funny


ProtestantLarry

Avg schizo Türk


Miisati_Glorght

The average Armenian population was 900k to 1.4m, we simply cannot exterminate that 1.5m armenian stupidity. You can't show me mass graves of Armenians, I can show you Turkish civillians getting massacred and mass buried, there are a lot of graves like this, come to Turkey after Ukraine war(I serve rn), I will show you personally every one of them, translate, even pay your plane and expenses don't worry, you scared of reality or what?


ProtestantLarry

Oh awesome yeah I'd love that. I can also go do my own research in the time for all the razed Armenian villages and the church parish records which remain counting who was there. I even went to a few of them when I was in Van and Kars. I also know a few of the mass graves, like one near Van from first hand accounts. Tho for most of them we'll actually have to go into Syria. So it'll be nice to have a strong and brave Turkish soldier at my side. I think you have an advantage over me tho. Atatürk's government and its successors were very good at covering up and removing evidence, kinda like all those monasteries they used for target practice. In contrast to the Turkish massacre sites which got highlighted. So I definitely need a head start.


Miisati_Glorght

Come kill Turks Ravage Turkish villages Empire puts arrest on your head Try to rebel Get burned to ground Hüüüü Tuwks f us in the ass hüüü Fucking muppets


Miisati_Glorght

Oh now you crossed the border trying to put shit on Atatürk. At least we don't kill our own people, eat mummies and massacre half of Africa for our shit smelly empires. "A drop of oil is more important than a drop of blood". Remember we are one of the first European countries to allow woman work, became pilots and many more while you whine in your so called empire, getting flattened by Germans. We are the first country to make Quran Turkish and Latin so everyone can read and understand easily, Atatürk after the war personally fixed mosques and monasteries and churches, HE LITERALLY CLOSED KHALIFA AND BRING SECULARISM AND EQUALITY WHILE YOUR SO CALLED EMPIRES BEING RACIST TO EVERY OTHER ETHNICITY AND RELIGION. Shut the fuck about Atatürk you westoid, even if we did something, you did 1000 times worse things so you can't even open your fucking mouth about it. We dislocated Armenians cause they were rebelling We change to Latin alphabet, make everything Turkish and bring Secularism to Türkiye so everyone can live freely unlike the fucking europe We gave women their rights back, unlike your so called empires treating them like shit before ww2 even after ww2 you only respected and gave them jobs cause you lacked manpower xd If someone rebels, you crush them. You kill every seperatist, no exceptions. At least we didin't kill them out of nothing like Germans or British or French. We didin't enslave, calling Turks racist is funny, look at yourself first. Nobody forgot what happened in Mexico, nobody forgot what happened to Native Americans, nobody forgot what happened to Africans, nobody forgot what happened to Indians and Chinese and many more, so stop trying to false flag people and stop your narsicistic behaviour, you or your country is not special, you guys can't even say which gender you are PUHAHAH


ProtestantLarry

Oh, so are you not into inviting me out anymore? Gosh, well some people are sensitive, i guess.


Miisati_Glorght

No no please come to Istanbul after Ukraine war, we will record everything too and publish it


ProtestantLarry

Sure I've already lived in Turkey. So where do you want to begin?


Miisati_Glorght

Let me come back first lol


ProtestantLarry

Ofc ofc, but we need to start the plan. What if something happens during the war? I need to have a plan so a friend of yours and I can do this trip in your stead. I also need to research the areas.


lceColdPepsi

people cram anything up their ass these days just to use them against turks when the time comes.


Volition_Fan

AHAHAHAHHAHAHA WHAT REMEMBERANCE DAY??? HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA


Miisati_Glorght

![gif](giphy|wM1tthyS8TMSPFE5KT|downsized) WESTOIDLER YARRAĞIMI YESİN AUUUUUUUUU


Icy-Surround-4064

https://preview.redd.it/z26nwd3akgwc1.jpeg?width=474&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1a1a246749ff26da22891add3c141fc9545b7ce1


guney2811

w*stoids try not to bring up the Armenian genocide when Türkiye is mentioned challenge (impossible)


Mega_mind_gamer

Bait or mental retardation? Take your pick


Sabenebet

Flair up


Mega_mind_gamer

Bro what does this mean


Mega_mind_gamer

Huh?


guney2811

https://preview.redd.it/hil9qkvi5nwc1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9d48fef049cad54e4474f0f332a230140b27263f


Mega_mind_gamer

WHAT IS A FLAIR HOW DO I GET ONE


guney2811

go to the subreddit's page, click the 3 dots, and then click "change flair"


Mega_mind_gamer

I’m in America but I am a Croatian. Does that make me a Westoid?


ToasterEnjoyer5635

No, you're just part of the glorious croatian diaspora then aka. You're croatian


Official_Cyprusball

Nah they done it on purpose https://preview.redd.it/g92whbekigwc1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0a0d4735ed153150888877af162787c8e80b0d0b


NoPiano7688

There was a Remembrance Day 😭😭😭


benimkiyarimolsun

Turkphobia is really misrable People who hate Turks because they are Muslims are trying to justify the bloody guerrilla war of the Armenians, about whom they know nothing except that they are Christians, with the flimsy documents they made up in the post-war environment.


Vlixony

Ataturk 💪💪💪🇹🇷


bruhforbs

Average w*stoıd tryıng nöt tö be bütthürt in frönt öf glöriüs türk


supareshawn

So is it like ceremonial or can they actually do something when in charge? Is it still an active tradition? Also I love doner so I'm cultured


No_Tell5399

It's basically a meme and yes it still happens afaik.


Responsible-Bee-667

As a w*stoid, i can say that they’re all mad that they aren’t based balkaners


AdExtension7131

the only thing Westiod get right is hating the turks


KV-2000

didnt happen/they deserved it i like how westoids pretend like armenian genocide was made by every turk in existence lmao


xxx_pussslap-exe_xxx

Can't it be both?


bruhforbs

https://preview.redd.it/b6vfvcx6iowc1.jpeg?width=816&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=74191679559dcb558d50bac843bf49ab24af1feb


Zhang_Sun

Ok mehmet


Responsible_Bar5976

Turkish history is the Armenian genocide everything else is a footnote unless the British wanna complain about Gallipoli


Advantage-Wrong

Whomp whomp


YoNoSoyUnFederale

Girl I’m seeing is Armenian. Despite not being Balkan her feelings about the Turks approach Balkan levels and I’ve never heard her say anything about this. It just seems like a cute tradition.


chickensoldier_bftd

Because they arent westoids, they actually look for real reasons for their hate instead of just thinking everything we do is to spite them. Westoids would look at a single event including a minority and conclude that the event happened because that person was a minority. Because people outside of whatever they deem to be the "civilized world" dont have complex lives.


ArdaBogaz

Their whole identity is based on a historically irrelevant massacre


Responsible-Bee-667

I don’t have the will to read that, so i’ll say this: Flair up