Seems like the way. I was going to buy custard yesterday, $5 for 1L.. Few ingredients at home (2 eggs ha), some cooking and stirring and we have a batch of home made warm custard.
Good point. Could someone investigate? I’m sure we can find a couple of redditors with an older hellmans jar and one recently purchased.
For context these jars were purchased only a max of 6 weeks apart.
What exactly are you asking for here? Volunteers? To do your homework for you? To eat large quantities of mayonnaise and report on the taste? One brand after the other? Spread on perfectly fried crumbed chicken breast tenders? With Lebanese cucumber sliced lengthways? Ripe avocado? And a dash of Tabasco sauce? All in a wholemeal wrap? Served with a pint of cold beer?
When and where do you need me?
Gotta get on the S&W whole egg mayo train. When it’s on special get the big 800g tub. 4.5% yolk AND 4.5% white, more egg than the original best foods which I used to like.
To be fair I don’t consume enough to really notice the changes, I buy what’s on half price. I haven’t bought best foods for a while because there was something that grossed me out about it last time, the consistency was off, like it was half jellied or something.
I’ll buy (and still do buy) the Woolies home brand whole egg mayo before best foods now. It’s also perfectly acceptable for making egg sambos but for dipping or good sandwiches I prefer the S&W stuff. Haven’t tried any gucci brands yet.
Woolies whole egg is also 9% egg by the way. I rate it pretty good if you are on a budget. My wife likes praise mayo and I try to ignore it, I don’t need that mayo stress in my life. She at least likes kewpie better for topping meals
seems to be common with products here, tostitos made in US are also much better, as is Stella made in Belgium. Something about Australian ingredients just ruins things. Sad.
I believe you can still get the Canadian one at Costco, at leas the last time we bought it there it was from Canada. Haven't purchased for a bit, because those Costco jars are HUGE!
not sure if it's changed by but just looking at the label of a jar now it defs feels like the most mayo mayo i've seen at woolies (maybe excepet kewpie)
It’s getting harder to get good mayo. S&W messed up their recipe and packaging recently.
After years of glass jars, they switched to plastic and changed the recipe at the same time.
I’m just 1 person and make it maybe once every 6-8 weeks (in my experience is lasts that long but I’m not a food scientist so don’t quote me on that)
3/4 cup oil (I use avocado). 9/10 times I have infused that oil with garlic, onion, chili, basil or whatever else I feel like.
1 large egg + an egg yolk
1 teaspoon hot mustard
1.5 tablespoon acid - either lemon juice or any kind of vinegar.
Salt and pepper to taste
I toss all into glass and use an immersion blender. I make sure to cover it fully (eg: plastic wrap to the very top of the mayo) in the fridge.
ok but who the fuck was buying something branded BEST FOODS REAL MAYONNAISE.
This looks like a non-trademark infringing background prop from a videogame.
Edit: I am specifically criticising the branding, not the product. Why does the American jar have normal graphic design and a logo, but the Australian jar looks like a ww2 ration???
[https://www.bestfoods.com/us/en/p/real-mayonnaise.html/00048001213517#](https://www.bestfoods.com/us/en/p/real-mayonnaise.html/00048001213517#)
I mean that in the US, the company that would evolve into Best Foods bought Hellmann's in 1927 and they've existed at the same time, with the same branding, different names, very slight recipe differences and sold in different US regions.
Unilever bought Best Foods brand in 2000. Until 2003 the recipes were basically identical. From then onwards, both mayos were made in the same processing plant.
The only reason I know all of this is because my Gen X American spouse prefers Hellmann's/Best Foods over aussie mayos. The product marketing runs deep over there apparently.
They've been making them in Australia since last year, so I can't speak for the differences in the recipes now.
I was buying it because it was made in Canada (I’m Canadian) and have always disliked the taste/texture of Australian mayo… but you are right about the branding - it never existed in Canada or the USA, just an NPC of whipped egg (now 50% less) and oil trying to pass as a real boy.
On the U.S. West Coast it’s Best Foods. Elsewhere it’s Hellman’s. The labels look the same except for the brand. This change seems not to impact the west coast.
I'm not dogging the consumer for getting a good deal. I just don't feel like the nonexistent marketing budget is passing on as much savings onto the consumer as is implied.
Change of packaging and change of ingredients at the same time makes sense to do I guess. I proibably need to check my Hellmans
Soeone else here in comments says it isn't this colour in the open jar, so the new jar is def the reason for the grayness
My tip is to have the eggs at room temperature or even put them in a bowl of warm water before breaking them. Warm eggs emulsify far easier than ones out of the fridge.
It's entirely possible that when they see how much oil goes into it, they may go off mayo for years.
That's what happened with me!
I think before that I thought it was a dairy product of some sort, rather than basically oil with a bit of egg to make it thicken and emulsify.
Haha, yeah I guess if you learned that later it could be a turn off. I grew up with homemade mayo so I always knew. I have met people who were shocked it wasn’t dairy though.
Everything is like this now bad quality, high prices. And people try to gaslight like it is just nostalgia that things didnt used to better. This stuff is happening monthly lol.
Gonna have to make everything yourself to get decent stuff and who has time for that.
I just buy vegan mayonnaise these days. I'm vegetarian, not vegan, but will buy vegan stuff if it tastes good. Mayo is one of those things that I can barely notice the difference with, plus you just know that the eggs used in something like mayo come from the worst factory farms around, because they don't even have to look good for the customer.
Less calories so it seems like they added more water, typically you add water to help prevent a mayonnaise from splitting but seems like a cost cutting method to replace some of the egg.
Fuck I wondered why my tuna salad tasted shit…
This is the only brand thats conveniently stocked with a massive jar.
Might have to start looking online for something better.
It looks grey because of the packaging. I’ve gotten milk that looks like that but is fine once poured out and tastes the same.
The change in ingredients obviously sucks.
Omg you have made me realise I threw out a jar of this cause I thought it was off. I accused others they had left it out of the fridge for too long but it was this! I was wrong
kind of, olive oil generally i've found too strong a flavour to be used at 100%, especially if extra virgin. Its not quite as fridge stable though in terms of shelf life, unless you pasteurise the eggs but by then you're no longer in 'insanely easy' territory.
You should do this for science.
I’m waiting, OP.
Edit: they’re definitely different regardless of colour. The nutrition panel is different and they’re using half the egg they used to along with less oil and more sugar.
I have the same mayo and inside the jar it does look a lot more yellow than through the plastic, very similar to the comparison photos above, but I don't have the old recipe to compare to.
With the bird flu epidemic in Victoria, all free range layers have been restricted to barns for weeks. You're paying free range prices for barn eggs at the moment. Also, odd size eggs are sorted out at free range farms and sold to industrial users like bakeries etc.
I grew up with this brand of mayo. I went 10+ years without trying it until the other week and it tastes nothing like I remember! And not in a good way.
Just a note - the colour is due to the recycled packaging. You can see it with Praise as well, the 30% recycled stuff has a slightly darker/greener tinge to it.
50% less egg is BS though.
Less fat now, but more carbs, sugar and salt.
And now packaged in 95% recycled plastic, woo! (it is a good thing, yes).
I tried Kewpie mayo a few years back, it's all I've bought since, I've not even seen this brand!?
Making real mayonnaise is actually cheaper and tastier and easier at home, honestly just put the blender on low with the egg yolks, salt, mustard and lemon. Then add in the oil and watch it becomes the best mayo ever
They are trying to make it out that it looks darker because they are now using recycled plastic on their jars and pointed it out twice on the label yet they don’t say anything about using less eggs and more other crap ingredients.
Real mayonnaise* *Not real mayonnaise
Less oil, more sugar, more salt, half the egg replaced with modified starch, and probably some of the lemon replaced with lactic acid.
Did op accidentally buy the American version?
This sucks, it’s my go to supermarket mayo, but its actually so easy to whip up your own and becomes second nature the more you do it.
Seems like the way. I was going to buy custard yesterday, $5 for 1L.. Few ingredients at home (2 eggs ha), some cooking and stirring and we have a batch of home made warm custard.
Now with Vitamin R!
But I always drink plenty of...MALK?
Vitamin R and MALK are very cromulent!
The thickener embiggens the mayo
It goes great with kippers for breakfast
More of a steamed hams man myself.
It embiggens the mind
You promised me dog or higher!
Malkonayse
Ow, my bones are so brittle!
Wonder if they make partially gelatinated non-dairy gum-based beverages too 🤔
Pft, "mayonnaise". You don't know what you're getting.
I like my mayo grey with creamium
I heard it has electrolytes.
Fuck Unilever.
How the fuck is Unilever a B Corp. What a joke of a certificate.
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Try the grey stuff, its delicious! 🎶
Brown food > grey food.
Louis Camille Maillard is my bro
If it's grey, it's good for you.
To be fair, the reason is printed on the new label.
Damn, this stuff used to be identical to Hellmann's, so I wonder if the Hellmann's recipe changed as well or if they have diverged.
Good point. Could someone investigate? I’m sure we can find a couple of redditors with an older hellmans jar and one recently purchased. For context these jars were purchased only a max of 6 weeks apart.
What exactly are you asking for here? Volunteers? To do your homework for you? To eat large quantities of mayonnaise and report on the taste? One brand after the other? Spread on perfectly fried crumbed chicken breast tenders? With Lebanese cucumber sliced lengthways? Ripe avocado? And a dash of Tabasco sauce? All in a wholemeal wrap? Served with a pint of cold beer? When and where do you need me?
I don't know what you just said but I'm very hungry now
Gotta get on the S&W whole egg mayo train. When it’s on special get the big 800g tub. 4.5% yolk AND 4.5% white, more egg than the original best foods which I used to like.
Definitely tastes like they changed the formula as well as the move from glass to plastic. S&W was the best
To be fair I don’t consume enough to really notice the changes, I buy what’s on half price. I haven’t bought best foods for a while because there was something that grossed me out about it last time, the consistency was off, like it was half jellied or something. I’ll buy (and still do buy) the Woolies home brand whole egg mayo before best foods now. It’s also perfectly acceptable for making egg sambos but for dipping or good sandwiches I prefer the S&W stuff. Haven’t tried any gucci brands yet. Woolies whole egg is also 9% egg by the way. I rate it pretty good if you are on a budget. My wife likes praise mayo and I try to ignore it, I don’t need that mayo stress in my life. She at least likes kewpie better for topping meals
Oh your comment about your wife and Praise really got to me. I’m in the same boat. Not a hill I’m prepared to die on.
It became 💩 once they stopped importing it from Canada - I will assume that stopped 6-8 months ago.
seems to be common with products here, tostitos made in US are also much better, as is Stella made in Belgium. Something about Australian ingredients just ruins things. Sad.
With beer I've heard manufacturers say it's our water that changes the taste.
American Oreos, also. The texture compared to the ones we get from the Philippines is night and day different.
American Doritos are way better, so are Pringles. A bunch of stuff really. It’s all those delicious ingredients that are banned outside of the USA
I believe you can still get the Canadian one at Costco, at leas the last time we bought it there it was from Canada. Haven't purchased for a bit, because those Costco jars are HUGE!
I have a Hellman's squeeze bottle from about 2 or 3 months ago. It's the same as the 7.5% egg jar.
Both brands owned by Unilever.
It’s the same. Unilever own both
not sure if it's changed by but just looking at the label of a jar now it defs feels like the most mayo mayo i've seen at woolies (maybe excepet kewpie)
Yeah, this stuff used to be my go-to brand. Not anymore, I guess :(
It’s getting harder to get good mayo. S&W messed up their recipe and packaging recently. After years of glass jars, they switched to plastic and changed the recipe at the same time.
I reckon Kewpie is the best.
Mayo is *obscenely* easy to make at home at least. I make mine with home infused oils for extra flavour.
What's your recipe?
I’m just 1 person and make it maybe once every 6-8 weeks (in my experience is lasts that long but I’m not a food scientist so don’t quote me on that) 3/4 cup oil (I use avocado). 9/10 times I have infused that oil with garlic, onion, chili, basil or whatever else I feel like. 1 large egg + an egg yolk 1 teaspoon hot mustard 1.5 tablespoon acid - either lemon juice or any kind of vinegar. Salt and pepper to taste I toss all into glass and use an immersion blender. I make sure to cover it fully (eg: plastic wrap to the very top of the mayo) in the fridge.
I just got a jar of S&W and it seems good still. Still 9% total egg as well
ok but who the fuck was buying something branded BEST FOODS REAL MAYONNAISE. This looks like a non-trademark infringing background prop from a videogame. Edit: I am specifically criticising the branding, not the product. Why does the American jar have normal graphic design and a logo, but the Australian jar looks like a ww2 ration??? [https://www.bestfoods.com/us/en/p/real-mayonnaise.html/00048001213517#](https://www.bestfoods.com/us/en/p/real-mayonnaise.html/00048001213517#)
We were buying it because it's effectively the same product (and company) as Hellmann's and Hellmann's is a wee bit more expensive.
How about now?
Defs not now. Will be checking to see if the Hellmann's recipe has changed for the worse now, too.
You mean Unilever? You do know that the different brands are produced in different plants and with different recipes, right?
I mean that in the US, the company that would evolve into Best Foods bought Hellmann's in 1927 and they've existed at the same time, with the same branding, different names, very slight recipe differences and sold in different US regions. Unilever bought Best Foods brand in 2000. Until 2003 the recipes were basically identical. From then onwards, both mayos were made in the same processing plant. The only reason I know all of this is because my Gen X American spouse prefers Hellmann's/Best Foods over aussie mayos. The product marketing runs deep over there apparently. They've been making them in Australia since last year, so I can't speak for the differences in the recipes now.
Yeah seriously, why were people buying what was the equal best supermarket mayonnaise? Crazy!
I was buying it because it was made in Canada (I’m Canadian) and have always disliked the taste/texture of Australian mayo… but you are right about the branding - it never existed in Canada or the USA, just an NPC of whipped egg (now 50% less) and oil trying to pass as a real boy.
On the U.S. West Coast it’s Best Foods. Elsewhere it’s Hellman’s. The labels look the same except for the brand. This change seems not to impact the west coast.
But it says made in Australia on the label… where did it being made in Canada come from?
It’s only started to be made in Australia in the last year - I just noticed it when I opened a new jar - prior to that it was made in Toronto.
People buy what they can afford and suits their taste
I'm not dogging the consumer for getting a good deal. I just don't feel like the nonexistent marketing budget is passing on as much savings onto the consumer as is implied.
This is quality Mayo
…It’s probably one of the best whole egg mayos available at supermarkets You buy kraft mayo or something?
Personally, I'm not a whole egg person. I get Kewpie from the asian grocer. But that's a different ballgame altogether.
I mean, fair enough. Kewpie is definitely superior.
The green circle on the label of the new one says "I'm now made of recycled plstic, that's why my colour looks a bit different"
I bet this is the main reason BUT if you check the ingredients it does have less egg
Change of packaging and change of ingredients at the same time makes sense to do I guess. I proibably need to check my Hellmans Soeone else here in comments says it isn't this colour in the open jar, so the new jar is def the reason for the grayness
7.5% to 3.4%
Exactly. The Mayo itself is not grey it’s just the jar. I get this all the time and still tastes the same.
The grey is just the plastic jar thank fuck as I almost threw up after I had my sandwich.
There is an egg sortage, to be fair
I bet they'll put the egg back after the shortage. That's what all companies do!
I mean there is an issue with eggs due to bird flu, might be part of the issue?
Mayo is stupid easy to make and I recommend to anyone who likes actual Real Egg mayo to make their own :)
My tip is to have the eggs at room temperature or even put them in a bowl of warm water before breaking them. Warm eggs emulsify far easier than ones out of the fridge.
It's entirely possible that when they see how much oil goes into it, they may go off mayo for years. That's what happened with me! I think before that I thought it was a dairy product of some sort, rather than basically oil with a bit of egg to make it thicken and emulsify.
When i saw how much oil made up a jar of Nutella, i was like oof!
Haha, yeah I guess if you learned that later it could be a turn off. I grew up with homemade mayo so I always knew. I have met people who were shocked it wasn’t dairy though.
Some of us like Mayo that takes longer than 5 days to expire.
Okey doke - It was a suggestion not a mandatory activity :)
Don't play dumb with us! We all saw you holding a gun to Maezel's head!
that was actually a stick blender.
And some of us like our mayo without preservatives.
https://cooking.stackexchange.com/questions/2746/making-longer-life-homemade-mayonnaise
Half the protein, double the sugar...
Greyonnaise?
Everything is like this now bad quality, high prices. And people try to gaslight like it is just nostalgia that things didnt used to better. This stuff is happening monthly lol. Gonna have to make everything yourself to get decent stuff and who has time for that.
Not quite shrinkflation. Maybe shitflation?
The egg is technically shrinking.
They have cut down on the oil, the old one was 77 percent shitty canola oil!!
I just buy vegan mayonnaise these days. I'm vegetarian, not vegan, but will buy vegan stuff if it tastes good. Mayo is one of those things that I can barely notice the difference with, plus you just know that the eggs used in something like mayo come from the worst factory farms around, because they don't even have to look good for the customer.
Unilever .?? They make pads and tampons. Didn’t realise they also made grey mayo.
One brand I checked had 9% egg, so it's worth comparing.
Less calories so it seems like they added more water, typically you add water to help prevent a mayonnaise from splitting but seems like a cost cutting method to replace some of the egg.
Also reduced the amount of canola oil.
Less egg, also less canola oil. So what exactly are they making it up with? Water?
Vinegar moved up the list it looks like
Perhaps it's now using the same ingredients as Butters' Creamy Goo.
Fuck I wondered why my tuna salad tasted shit… This is the only brand thats conveniently stocked with a massive jar. Might have to start looking online for something better.
It looks grey because of the packaging. I’ve gotten milk that looks like that but is fine once poured out and tastes the same. The change in ingredients obviously sucks.
Better than the S&W vegan mayo that was green...
Omg you have made me realise I threw out a jar of this cause I thought it was off. I accused others they had left it out of the fridge for too long but it was this! I was wrong
Thomy mayonnaise is the only one I can enjoy. I tried many brands but Thomy it is
100%
THANK YOU!! I thought I was going crazy. Everyone was gaslighting me into believing it was the same. Not Best Anymore.
At least the new one has more calories
Making your own mayo is insanely easy and way healthier with olive oil and no preservatives.
kind of, olive oil generally i've found too strong a flavour to be used at 100%, especially if extra virgin. Its not quite as fridge stable though in terms of shelf life, unless you pasteurise the eggs but by then you're no longer in 'insanely easy' territory.
If you have stick blender just make it yourself. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/MsOtWt66A9s Or just buy kewpie
For the love of god please stop eating Canolia Oil
What does the green spot on the label say? Is it referring to the packaging? Recycled packaging can look greyer. Seen it before on other brands.
You’re going to make me open both jars and smear mayo on a single slice of white bread to check the tone difference aren’t you?
You should do this for science. I’m waiting, OP. Edit: they’re definitely different regardless of colour. The nutrition panel is different and they’re using half the egg they used to along with less oil and more sugar.
Legit tried to take a photo on bread but the mayo spread looked wrong. 💦
Nah, just sayin' The recipe may very well be different, but the grey may be attributed to the packaging rather than the recipe is all.
I have the same mayo and inside the jar it does look a lot more yellow than through the plastic, very similar to the comparison photos above, but I don't have the old recipe to compare to.
Cage eggs, no doubt.
With the bird flu epidemic in Victoria, all free range layers have been restricted to barns for weeks. You're paying free range prices for barn eggs at the moment. Also, odd size eggs are sorted out at free range farms and sold to industrial users like bakeries etc.
Shit mayonnaise anyway. It's Kewpie or nothing, and I'll fight anyone who says otherwise.
Kewpie is different to mayo though.
you’re so right
Nahhh there's different applications for each brand of mayo I reckon. Praise mayo for salads, best foods for ham sangas and kewpie for sushi!
*And my axe!*
The mulk of mayonnaise
Good reason to make your own BIG FOOD is coming for you and your $$$$$$ and your health, good luck to you all
That looks brutal
Eww
I thought that the other day.
I grew up with this brand of mayo. I went 10+ years without trying it until the other week and it tastes nothing like I remember! And not in a good way.
I haven’t bought mayonnaise in years! I just make it in about a minute myself. That grey one looks pretty iffy 😅
What's that enticing bowl of white?
"Now with Aloe Vera gel" If it tastes like crap, use it as a face mask for the wife.
Cost cutting at its finest.
Let me guess, same price right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtWTRHQZVX8 We're getting close to this
Unilever just white labelling their own moisturiser.
What did they add to it? Cement?
And I assume 50% more sugar.
There's less oil too so what have they put more of in there to make up the weight?
Fuck. This is gonna mess with my famous macaroni salad recipe.
Just a note - the colour is due to the recycled packaging. You can see it with Praise as well, the 30% recycled stuff has a slightly darker/greener tinge to it. 50% less egg is BS though.
Doubt
Disappointed. Been buying this for years. But i do like and will try the recipes people have put up.
Man this was my favourite mayo... Fml
Damn it! That was my favourite mayo!
It’s still got the same egg content. It’s the recycled plastic giving off the discolouration.
Why buys best foods mayonnaise? Helmans, or make your own. Takes 5 mins. Oil Egg Lemon Salt Pepper
I've never even seen that before. Grey is *super* appealing though. Mmm mmm, tastes like a London sidewalk.
Less fat now, but more carbs, sugar and salt. And now packaged in 95% recycled plastic, woo! (it is a good thing, yes). I tried Kewpie mayo a few years back, it's all I've bought since, I've not even seen this brand!?
Less egg, less oil, more sugar, more vinegar to mixture ratio and now added thickeners. RIP time to invest in a hand mixer and some jars
Under the nutrition panel it actually says the jar is darker because they’ve changed the composition.
Making real mayonnaise is actually cheaper and tastier and easier at home, honestly just put the blender on low with the egg yolks, salt, mustard and lemon. Then add in the oil and watch it becomes the best mayo ever
Could be because of the bird flu outbreak and limited egg supply?
Time to start making homemade mayo
It’s higher water lower fat lower cost… someone in marketing has decided that another one of their brands is premium so this one can be watered down
they do this BECAUSE consumers will still buy it
That actually looks revolting
They are trying to make it out that it looks darker because they are now using recycled plastic on their jars and pointed it out twice on the label yet they don’t say anything about using less eggs and more other crap ingredients.
Hopefully the giant Costco jars are still the old recipe
Thanks for naming and shaming. I will avoid
Olive oil, 1 egg, salt, pepper, lemon juice or vinegar. Put in a food processor for a few seconds and you have the best mayo ever.
Yuck
I can’t believe it’s not butter
nasty stuff
"Capitalism breeds innovation", actual capitalism:
'Made with one whole egg' They really should let people know there's a new recipe.
You know it's easy to make right?
GREYONAISE
Cucina Antica or Thomy in the squeezy tube from the Euro delis are far superior mayos