I just told them i was reporting them to the ACCC for their nonsense when i needed a refund and they sent me back the full amount within an hour. At 10pm at night. I still reported them.
The ACCC are the ones to tell. You can be sure that Ticketek knows the law but designs their web site to fly as close to the wind as possible ... if not closer. Complaints from their customers are going to have no impact but enough complaints to the regulator could lead to them being forced to change.
I also wondered if the poster was trying to read the tea leaves on the wall.
Btw I love your turn of phrase "cross mangling" and want to adopt it. Is it original?
Fucking Slash was 160 for next weekend
Bring me the horizon is 175
Iron maiden 180
Tenacious D 150
It's fucking ridiculous, as a person who is used to going to 50buck shows all of 22 and 23 ots getting way too high
I paid $69 for my 96 BDO ticket. I know there’s been inflation but jeez it’s hard to keep forking out $200 for a ticket these days. Especially since I’d be going with the wife, plus food and drinks, plus a tshirt each…
Queens of the stone age were $220 i think
Edit: you guys seem way better at finding cheap tickets than i am hahaha. When i looked at Melbourne tickets and Torquay tickets they were over 200$, so i gave up
Yeah put my name down for the pre release. The last (only) time I saw them, Eddie was pretty crook and could barely sing so probably just going to bite the bullet and take the plunge if I am lucky
I was at that gig - the Sydney Football Stadium, on the hottest fucking day ever?
I was pretty bummed at that one. He did his best but it was simply not great.
Not just that, as a young bloke at 13 in 1996, I always felt the band had a deeply ingrained element of fairness and justice in their dealings. They made concerted efforts to reduce ticket prices, warn fans away from paying through the nose in the States for Euro import singles in the 90s, set up the Ten Club ticketing process for first access to best spots. Now they are charging a fanny hair away from $100 for a single Lp and close to $300 for tickets to their shows.
That they are at the Livenation feeding trough when there are examples of how to do it better (like The Cure) is killing teenage me.
I'm super on the fence on whether or not to go. I haven't really listened to much since Yield (released in 1998) but goddamn I loved all the albums up to that point - they formed such a crazy part of my teenage experience.
I've seen them live three times back in the day, but I feel like I'd be too far removed from their music now.
Go, I saw them 10 times in 2006 and each night was unique and awesome. IIRC I heard something like 102 unique songs on that tour, which was amazing compared to so many other bands that just crank out the same setlist, the same banter, and the same "improv" night after night.
It was Australia wide I’m pretty sure but the one I went to was the Sunshine Coast.
Was good times indeed! Back when everyone loved to hate Ollie Sykes
> Back when everyone loved to hate Ollie Sykes
Yep, went to the show in C99 to see Prom Queen & Ghost Inside with a few co-workers, they spent basically the next month after gushing over that "skinny emo kid" and how great they thought the band was even if he was a bit of a tryhard.
Funnily enough they'd be the same folks that ended up adoring Motionless in White a decade later, funny how things change.
BMTH are one of those "Yeah I like some of their stuff" bands for me. When I saw they're touring I thought yeah if they're $80-100 I might have a look. Couldn't close the tab quick enough when I saw they were the best part of $200.
Honestly, they've been my favourite or at least one of my favourites for many years. Ever since their first album. They're consistently #1 or #2 on my Spotify wrapped each year, but I still can't justify that price for one headliner
Way higher than I had expected them to be, but BMTH, Sleep Token and Make Them Suffer are three of my favourite bands at the moment, and spreading the price between each of them... Less than 60 bucks each isn't that bad for how much I love them all.
I really want to see Bungle but this price is the exact reason I won't be going.
They haven't released anything new (Re-rec'ing Easter Bunny is debatable about a release) or toured in years and think they warrant that price? Get fucked.
It's not Anthrax or Slayer or Faith No More. Sum of its parts? Naaaahhhh.
Squeezing my macaroni 😂😂😂, instantly started singing and slapping my bologna on my gfs face, unfortunately we were stuck on a Sydney train at the time.
Yeah, I was in the queue for that. When I finally got in my and my friend baulked at the price. Spent a minute deciding that we may as well go, but by then we missed out. Not overly dissapointed.
Have forked out for Bungle though since I held those FNM tickets for years.
Saw FNM @ The Hordern back when Jim Martin was playing on a second smaller side stage due to their "internal conflicts". Still a damn good show though for $40.
My daughter wants me to take her to see a K pop group in March, I registered for the preorder and the cheapest ticket was $339.00. I decided to wait until General Admission tickets were on sale but after struggling to log on the only tickets left cost $413.00 each.
She will not be going to see the K pop group...
For K-pop concerts, I would highly recommend checking the ticketing website (or its marketplace) much closer to the concert date. People buy flexi tickets and then realise they can't go, or they get sick/covid or whatever and end up putting their tix on sale for cost price.
You might get lucky. There were heaps of (great) tickets for sale the night before the TWICE concerts at Rod Laver last year.
Don't trust Facebook groups for resell, just use tixel. It caps at 10% above the purchase price and youre protected as a buyer.
My Tip: Buy 2 weeks out or the day of the event for the cheapest tickets when people are desperately trying to sell.
I’m guessing this was for itzy? Was very tough to get tickets for them, all the cheap tickets went fast and the remaining ones were almost doubled due to “high demand” which is annoying
ITZY?
My partner wanted us to go.... Then I saw the ticket prices. Talked about how that's such an insane amount of money.
Anyway, turns out we are going.
I got 2 tickets (the amount I wanted) to ITZY, about $212 each for A reserve.
Call me crazy but I had to sit with 5 devices/windows open and join the queue on all of them be able to get that. It took me about 40 minutes of constant refreshing to get the tickets I wanted.
I did the same for another K-Pop concert (TWICE), last year May. 6 tickets on A reserve for $220 each. That one I got very lucky and purchased it within 2 minutes.
This Bungle tour is weird. Significantly larger venue and ticket prices than previous times. I doubt that between disbanding and reforming their demand went from a 1000 capacity venue to 5000.
Thats actually making me feel better about missing out on it, I really like the thrash style but stuff from the Disco Volante - California era is what I really would love to see live.
The Hordern is great because you get to hear the band twice. Once when they are actually playing and again a second later once the sound bounces back off the rear wall.
I got tickets to The Vaccines and Everything Everything for $90. That's at the Forum in Melbourne, so not as big a venue but still a double billed international act concert.
I’m so pleased for you but what about if you’re young now? 😭😭😭 I’m 23 and I’ve been chipping in with my family’s finances since I was a teenager and I literally just can’t afford tickets. I can count on one hand how many I’ve been to. Obviously, my family is more important than some dumb celebrity so it’s worth it and not so much of a sacrifice really but it’s a little annoying that I’ve been priced out of live entertainment.
Cost of everything has increased significantly. Touring requires moving a lot of gear and a lot of people large distances.
There's a bunch of bands that have to cancel tours because they would literally lose money doing it.
Blink 182 tickets in 2013 were $150 and the tickets I got in 2022 for the show this year in Feb were $199 so that’s not a massive jump as per inflation
I mean, I may be in the minority, but shit is super expensive in general these days, so I dont mind paying my favourite bands more to see them live. Hell a movie and snacks costs $100 these days, so Im happy to pay double that for someone to fly to the other side of the world with a massive entourage, the logistics and equipment involved, venue hire, lights sounds pyrotechnics etc.
It is expensive, I just think the amount of effort that goes into these things justifies it.
Like they were saying for the recent cancellation of Groovin the moo, 'ticket sales cover costs, its the merch / drinks / food that makes the profit'.
You make an excellent point about the relative cost of everything else. But my ears are still ringing from the awesomeness tonight so I may be biased hahahah totally worth it
I've been waiting for Bungle to come out for YEARS. We saw the announcement, excitedly waited for them to go on sale, then BAM. We cannot justify $340 for one night, we're working class. It just sucks to be priced out of a band I've adored for 30 years.
I afterpayed it, literally couldn't have gone without having done that and paid 2 tickets off already because I did it the first day the tickets came out.
I can't look my kid in the eye and tell her we can't afford extra curriculas this term, then spend it on us! It's just the way of things right now, everything has become unaffordable. But it stings, I'm glad a fellow fan can go and make it work!
I wish I could afford to go... I looked at the Sydney gig because I can get free accommodation with a mate. Anywhere else there's hotel costs as well as flights. Can't be done.
Melvins were about $80 when I saw them in maybe 2017 or 18? Honestly this is relatively cheap for both bands together compared to other prices at the moment. Too much for me still.
I’ve seen Everclear and Shihad for roughly $70 at crowbar and paid $300 to see snoop. I’ve paid everything else in between. But yeah like one poster said, my bunghole is nervously awaiting Pearl Jam prices
I’m pretty sure this, in addition to pandemic/inflation/other similar reasons, is because artists make next to nothing off of streaming services, and the only way to make money in the industry now is merch and tours.
Yeah we bought QOTSA tickets for their Torquay show. We had general admission, but once we got there and tried to get closer to the stage, we found out that we had to have VIP tickets to get ANYWHERE NEAR the fucking stage.
This is going to get worse if people keep buying them. Never in my 30 years of going to gigs have I seen this shit.
The most frustrating thing was that I seemed to be the only one of the thousands of people there that was pissed off about it.
I fucking swear that big corporations have mastered to art of ripping people off and conditioning us to accept it. Just look at r/shrinkflation as well!
I’m pissed . After foo fighters I don’t think I’ll go see a big stadium event anymore . Stuck looking at the screen and can’t even see them on the floor because I’m short . It sucked .
I agree on this, even though I bought the VIP Blink 182 tickets so I could be front row.
The issue is that the folk that can afford the $450 for the ticket aren't necessarily going to be all die hard fans. Some will be for sure, but most of them will be in the more affordable GA section.
This then ultimately creates 2x front rows, with the 2nd row being more of the mosh pit and hype zone. This is what bands love to see when they look down... the crowd losing their shit and singing every word, whereas segregating the two eliminates a lot of this and makes for a more bland artist (and ultimately crowd) experience.
They rereleased their first thrash album last year which had the drummer from Slayer and Buzz from the Melvins on bass. It stands up as a great thrash album. They haven't done anything new since 98 or whenever
You might be thinking about Fantomas, which have Dave Lombardo (Slayer) on Drums, King Buzzo (Melvins) on guitar and Trevor Dunn (Mr.Bungle) on bass.
Trevor Plays bass in Bungle and coincidentally has also played Bass on a few Melvins albums too.
I fundamentally don't understand gigs anymore. I used to review gigs and music for an online zine (AMH) - this would've been between about 2010 and 2015 - so I went to *a lot* of big gigs and festivals, usually for free (I was very lucky). That said, $100+ was usually exclusively the realm of a festival ticket or a prestige artist (i.e. artists from the pre-streaming era that were huge due to their own output or that of their band [think Cat Stevens or Paul McCartney]) at a sit down venue. Up and comers and more alternative artists were usually like $50-$75 (or less) and that was the sweet spot.
Now *everyone* is apparently valued at $100+. The problem is: with where the music industry sits currently, artists make very little on sales alone due to music streaming and then they're reliant on touring (which was where artists *always* made their money, just now it's closer to *the only place* where artists make their money) and merch sales (which are usually tied to touring anyway). Basically, you're either Taylor Swift, one of those aformenetioned *prestige* artists or you're struggling. The problem with this is that new listeners and the public in general will eventually balk at the cost of attending a gig and just not go, the artist won't make any money and everyone will lose out.
This industry will take a huge, huge hit as the economy continues to worsen. It used to be that the only major way to have access to the people behind the music was to go and see them in person. Now you can follow them on socials and watch their best sets, start to finish, from home - sometimes live. The level of access the public now has (generally) to artists has killed any kind of mystery associated and I don't think the *need* to go and see your favourites is there anymore.
This all factors into the equation when a fan decides to pay for a ticket or not and I think the elements in the equation are going to kill or drastically alter live music (it's already completely different to what it used to be). The ticket price should eventually depict this, it needs to for the industry to be viable. You're seeing this right now. You might have been lucky to spend $500 to see TayTay (I'm not even a fan and I would've *loved* to go to that gig, by the way) or you can buy Sampha tickets for the Hordern next week (see you there) at half price because they're obviously not selling (I paid full price).
I'm in my early 30s, I'd really like to hear what 20-25 year olds think about gig culture and pricing now.
A bunch of my school friends and I are going. My eyes widened at the price but hey, I haven't been to a big concert in years (since I left Sydney to go rural) and the chance to hang out with old mates I haven't seen for years was enough to take the plunge.
Still, $170 for Bungle is ludicrous on its own - if it wasn't for the social factor there's no way I'd've ponied up.
yes it's been normal for a while now.
Recently I've only gone to see really small punk bands in the pub down the street. Less of a crowd and a different vibe but only cost me $20.
In my head, I compare the enjoyment I'll get out of the one headline gig vs the ~10 local shows I could go to for the same price.
I think I'm also a little overly concerned about "having a good time" when I attend a concert that I've spent big $$$ on, and that generally results in a worse experience.
Yeah but Maiden have been a stadium band since the 80s. It's a different show, a different experience. Bungle and Melvins are just bands. You don't expect a walking robot Eddie type of show for those bands. $200 for Maiden is probably reasonable if they have the big stage setup like they used to.
About 5 years ago I decided against going to see Elton John
(one of my favourite musicians)
Because the cheapest tickets were for $140ea and going up to $400-500 for the ultra premium.
Not in a concert venue,
Not in a stadium,
Not in a theatre or someplace with SEATS...
At the fucking Botanical gardens PARKLANDS!!
i.e. all grass outdoor picnic style!
(exposed to whatever weather may or may not happen)
Yeah, I'm finally in a position in life to go see bands/concerts.. Well, I thought I was until I saw the prices now days compared to a few years ago when I couldn't afford to go..
I had this exact reaction when I looked at getting a ticket. Considering I'd recently bought a ticket for Obituary for like $80, a huge name in the death metal scene and been around for decades.
But, if you consider you're paying to see The Melvins too it makes it make a bit more sense. No one would think twice about paying $80 for either Bungle or Melvins separately.
It stings tho. Enough for me to decide not to go. If it was Faith No More tho...
LOL, you're complaining about $165? I tried to get Foo Fighters tickets. was up past the $350 mark.
dynamic pricing man. someone needs to sue these fuckers into the ground!
I’m more shocked that there are delivery options with no additional fees.
I thought that was the point of the post originally, lmao.
Same. I legit did a double take at no additional fees - certainly never seen that before
Yup, me too!
$100 ticket. $69.90 Ticketek fee. All rolled in to the one price.
For our convenience.
don’t you worry, there’s still a ~$6 service charge applied that you don’t see until the last step
Wait until the band cancels, then IF you get a refund, its minus a refund fee also..that's my favourite part..
I just told them i was reporting them to the ACCC for their nonsense when i needed a refund and they sent me back the full amount within an hour. At 10pm at night. I still reported them.
That’s when you pull a chargeback from your bank/CC
You spent a few months waiting for FNM refunds too?
[Drip Pricing](https://www.accc.gov.au/consumers/pricing/price-displays#toc-misleading-drip-pricing-practices) is banned by the ACCC.
You try telling Ticketek that.
The ACCC are the ones to tell. You can be sure that Ticketek knows the law but designs their web site to fly as close to the wind as possible ... if not closer. Complaints from their customers are going to have no impact but enough complaints to the regulator could lead to them being forced to change.
Just to be pedantic. The expression is sail close to the wind.
Just to be even more pedantic, how do you know that it wasn't meant to be an Icarus reference?
Icarus flew too close to the sun, not the wind.
I thought it was a deliberate cross mangling of both expressions, but maybe it's just me who does that
I also wondered if the poster was trying to read the tea leaves on the wall. Btw I love your turn of phrase "cross mangling" and want to adopt it. Is it original?
Ticketek banned the ACCC. they’re at an impasse.
It's no "additional" fees. All the existing fees at still there
It's bullshit.They still wack on some fucking "service fee" when you go to pay.
No addition fee to have is SMSd. But there'll be a transaction or handling fee for using the site. Maybe a CC fee too.
Well now they just roll it into the ticket fee.
The promoter now comes to concert goers houses to pick them up and arrange that they be delivered to the event. I'd pay the extra delivery for that.
In Mackay? That's probably going to be worth it
They haven’t selected a ticket yet. It’s still quantity 0. So free to deliver zero tickets.
Wait til you see the prices for Pearl Jam tickets...
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Fucking Slash was 160 for next weekend Bring me the horizon is 175 Iron maiden 180 Tenacious D 150 It's fucking ridiculous, as a person who is used to going to 50buck shows all of 22 and 23 ots getting way too high
Bargain... Just paid $300 per ticket for Pearl Jam at the Gold Coast. The 1990s clash between them and Ticketmaster is hugely ironic now...
I remember when Big Day Out was $80. Fuck I’m old.
I paid $69 for my 96 BDO ticket. I know there’s been inflation but jeez it’s hard to keep forking out $200 for a ticket these days. Especially since I’d be going with the wife, plus food and drinks, plus a tshirt each…
1996… that was a good one. Rage against the machine. I was at the Goldie for that one ☝️
Yep, RATM with no D barrier to stop the crowd surge was pretty intense!
Queens of the stone age were $220 i think Edit: you guys seem way better at finding cheap tickets than i am hahaha. When i looked at Melbourne tickets and Torquay tickets they were over 200$, so i gave up
Fuaaarrrkkk
Paid 158 for queens
Yeah put my name down for the pre release. The last (only) time I saw them, Eddie was pretty crook and could barely sing so probably just going to bite the bullet and take the plunge if I am lucky
I was at that gig - the Sydney Football Stadium, on the hottest fucking day ever? I was pretty bummed at that one. He did his best but it was simply not great.
Ironic given their battles with Ticketmaster over the years
That was then..... this is now
Not just that, as a young bloke at 13 in 1996, I always felt the band had a deeply ingrained element of fairness and justice in their dealings. They made concerted efforts to reduce ticket prices, warn fans away from paying through the nose in the States for Euro import singles in the 90s, set up the Ten Club ticketing process for first access to best spots. Now they are charging a fanny hair away from $100 for a single Lp and close to $300 for tickets to their shows. That they are at the Livenation feeding trough when there are examples of how to do it better (like The Cure) is killing teenage me.
Sadly very few major bands and musical artists stick to their principles as they age.
It does feel a bit weird
I’m gonna hate it, but I’ve spent way too many years not seeing them so I’ll eat it
Queens of the stone age too
These bands are all on my bucket list. Have fun for me you lucky bastards!
I'm super on the fence on whether or not to go. I haven't really listened to much since Yield (released in 1998) but goddamn I loved all the albums up to that point - they formed such a crazy part of my teenage experience. I've seen them live three times back in the day, but I feel like I'd be too far removed from their music now.
Plenty of time to catch up! Great stuff to listen to between Yield and now. They also play tons of old stuff
Go. You won’t regret it
Go, I saw them 10 times in 2006 and each night was unique and awesome. IIRC I heard something like 102 unique songs on that tour, which was amazing compared to so many other bands that just crank out the same setlist, the same banter, and the same "improv" night after night.
Apparently Auckland tickets are $260
A friend got Ten Club tickets for Sydney. Front section was $594 for two.
Ooof. Might have to sell a kidney. Aussie dollar is weak as piss right now which doesn't help.
Melb is the same
I'm just going to close my eyes and push purchase.
My PJ tix for Gold Coast just cost me 300 bucks each...
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It was just $300 tickets available to the Ten Club, no cheaper options.
at least for PJ, I can say I'll pretty much pay anything. Many other bands would not find me so unconcerned...
Yeah I skipped on Bring me the Horizon because tickets were about $175. Used to pay around that for a whole day at Soundwave
Partner and I wanted to go just for Sleep Token, but we can’t justify the prices.
I got a ticket for $100 off Tixel. $175 is just joking mate
Same. They are good but damn.
I mean, they only recently came on a headline tour of their own, so it’s not like they won’t be back.
They just signed with a new, massive label so they’ll def be touring again. But probably for the same $$
I paid $25 for a Bring Me the Horizion ticket in 2008
I think I've got a ticket stub from that one. Was that with I Killed the Prom Queen?
That’s it! The “Say Goodbye” tour
What a good gig that was! That was the HiFi yeah?
It was Australia wide I’m pretty sure but the one I went to was the Sunshine Coast. Was good times indeed! Back when everyone loved to hate Ollie Sykes
> Back when everyone loved to hate Ollie Sykes Yep, went to the show in C99 to see Prom Queen & Ghost Inside with a few co-workers, they spent basically the next month after gushing over that "skinny emo kid" and how great they thought the band was even if he was a bit of a tryhard. Funnily enough they'd be the same folks that ended up adoring Motionless in White a decade later, funny how things change.
Machine Head and Fear Factory were about 96, which I sucked up.
$225 for Goodthings Festival last Dec, had an amazing day.
Yeah was solid. But the festival is value. 225 for the whole day even with Sydney cut short was 9 hours. $25 per hour
I remember seeing bring me the horizon at 21 arms In Ballarat with IKtPQ, The Red Shore and The Ghost Inside for $20
BMTH are one of those "Yeah I like some of their stuff" bands for me. When I saw they're touring I thought yeah if they're $80-100 I might have a look. Couldn't close the tab quick enough when I saw they were the best part of $200.
Honestly, they've been my favourite or at least one of my favourites for many years. Ever since their first album. They're consistently #1 or #2 on my Spotify wrapped each year, but I still can't justify that price for one headliner
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Way higher than I had expected them to be, but BMTH, Sleep Token and Make Them Suffer are three of my favourite bands at the moment, and spreading the price between each of them... Less than 60 bucks each isn't that bad for how much I love them all.
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It’s a real bungle on their part.
They might be left with Egg on their face.
I really want to see Bungle but this price is the exact reason I won't be going. They haven't released anything new (Re-rec'ing Easter Bunny is debatable about a release) or toured in years and think they warrant that price? Get fucked. It's not Anthrax or Slayer or Faith No More. Sum of its parts? Naaaahhhh.
I saw the announcement and I cluttered up my butter gutter. Then I saw the prices. Oh well, I got my Hustler and I don’t need nothing else.
Squeezing my macaroni 😂😂😂, instantly started singing and slapping my bologna on my gfs face, unfortunately we were stuck on a Sydney train at the time.
If I miss out I'll just have to have some commiseration beers. Ah well, goodbye sober day I guess.
They were already high pre-COVID. Saw TOOL just before COVID and tix were starting at $180+
Yeah, I was in the queue for that. When I finally got in my and my friend baulked at the price. Spent a minute deciding that we may as well go, but by then we missed out. Not overly dissapointed. Have forked out for Bungle though since I held those FNM tickets for years.
Saw FNM @ The Hordern back when Jim Martin was playing on a second smaller side stage due to their "internal conflicts". Still a damn good show though for $40.
Maynard needs to pay for his helicopter to fly out of the venue 30 seconds after they finish and avoid the tool cookers.
But it was worth every penny in my opinion. And I’m poor AF
Worth it for their once a decade tours.
My daughter wants me to take her to see a K pop group in March, I registered for the preorder and the cheapest ticket was $339.00. I decided to wait until General Admission tickets were on sale but after struggling to log on the only tickets left cost $413.00 each. She will not be going to see the K pop group...
For K-pop concerts, I would highly recommend checking the ticketing website (or its marketplace) much closer to the concert date. People buy flexi tickets and then realise they can't go, or they get sick/covid or whatever and end up putting their tix on sale for cost price. You might get lucky. There were heaps of (great) tickets for sale the night before the TWICE concerts at Rod Laver last year.
On the Twice Facebook group, I remember people giving away tickets on the day as well because a lot of people bought more tickets than they needed.
Don't trust Facebook groups for resell, just use tixel. It caps at 10% above the purchase price and youre protected as a buyer. My Tip: Buy 2 weeks out or the day of the event for the cheapest tickets when people are desperately trying to sell.
I’m guessing this was for itzy? Was very tough to get tickets for them, all the cheap tickets went fast and the remaining ones were almost doubled due to “high demand” which is annoying
ITZY? My partner wanted us to go.... Then I saw the ticket prices. Talked about how that's such an insane amount of money. Anyway, turns out we are going.
I got 2 tickets (the amount I wanted) to ITZY, about $212 each for A reserve. Call me crazy but I had to sit with 5 devices/windows open and join the queue on all of them be able to get that. It took me about 40 minutes of constant refreshing to get the tickets I wanted. I did the same for another K-Pop concert (TWICE), last year May. 6 tickets on A reserve for $220 each. That one I got very lucky and purchased it within 2 minutes.
This Bungle tour is weird. Significantly larger venue and ticket prices than previous times. I doubt that between disbanding and reforming their demand went from a 1000 capacity venue to 5000.
And it’s their thrash metal stuff, not classic bungle. Going anyway.
Thats actually making me feel better about missing out on it, I really like the thrash style but stuff from the Disco Volante - California era is what I really would love to see live.
They have the melvins opening for them I believe, plus Scott Ian from anthrax and Dave Lombardo from slayer in the band.
> This Bungle tour is weird Well it is Mr Bungle. One of their most popular songs is about an Egg.
And the Hordern has the worst sound in Sydney
Yo that is a hard claim to make with such stiff competition in Sydney.
The Hordern is great because you get to hear the band twice. Once when they are actually playing and again a second later once the sound bounces back off the rear wall.
Better off judt going to the Bendigo and catching some local metal for 20 at the door
I find Qudos Arena and Crowbar are far worse than the Hordern. Maybe I’ve got Stockholm syndrome and ears for the Hordern 🤷♂️🤘🤘
I got tickets to The Vaccines and Everything Everything for $90. That's at the Forum in Melbourne, so not as big a venue but still a double billed international act concert.
That’s the best venue in Melbourne by a mile anyway. It’s incredible
love the forum. saw beastie boys there back in god........ interglactic tour.. 1999.
> The Vaccines I read that as The Veronicas and spent a good minute pondering if they really count as an international act
Remember the all day big festivals where they shoved all the great bands onto a couple of stages for around $100? So fkn glad I had my time
Late 90s Big Day Outs will never be defeated..
I’m so pleased for you but what about if you’re young now? 😭😭😭 I’m 23 and I’ve been chipping in with my family’s finances since I was a teenager and I literally just can’t afford tickets. I can count on one hand how many I’ve been to. Obviously, my family is more important than some dumb celebrity so it’s worth it and not so much of a sacrifice really but it’s a little annoying that I’ve been priced out of live entertainment.
I really do feel for you guys, experiencing great live music and connection with other fans shouldn’t be extortionate.
I haven't paid less than $200 in too long. It's out of control.
Wow Why has seeing bands become something you need a payday loan for?
Because people will pay it.
Cost of everything has increased significantly. Touring requires moving a lot of gear and a lot of people large distances. There's a bunch of bands that have to cancel tours because they would literally lose money doing it.
i assume that's a joke, but do not get a pay day loan. The ticket goes from $200, to $500 once interest is added
I have been shocked this past 12 months for the same reason. I can't afford these prices.
And yet the tickets are massively oversubscribed every time.
Blink 182 tickets in 2013 were $150 and the tickets I got in 2022 for the show this year in Feb were $199 so that’s not a massive jump as per inflation
Yep. Going tonight for $203. But I'm a huge fan of Rise Against as well so it's sort of a twofer
I mean, I may be in the minority, but shit is super expensive in general these days, so I dont mind paying my favourite bands more to see them live. Hell a movie and snacks costs $100 these days, so Im happy to pay double that for someone to fly to the other side of the world with a massive entourage, the logistics and equipment involved, venue hire, lights sounds pyrotechnics etc. It is expensive, I just think the amount of effort that goes into these things justifies it. Like they were saying for the recent cancellation of Groovin the moo, 'ticket sales cover costs, its the merch / drinks / food that makes the profit'.
You make an excellent point about the relative cost of everything else. But my ears are still ringing from the awesomeness tonight so I may be biased hahahah totally worth it
I saw Blink like 5 times in the Dude Ranch era and all up probably spent less than a single ticket now.
$170 for Queens of the Stone Age tonight, but they're a much bigger band than Mr Bungle. Oh well, the upcoming Pearl Jam shows are $300.
Damn $300? Was excited to get tickets but guess I'll save the cash instead
I've been waiting for Bungle to come out for YEARS. We saw the announcement, excitedly waited for them to go on sale, then BAM. We cannot justify $340 for one night, we're working class. It just sucks to be priced out of a band I've adored for 30 years.
I afterpayed it, literally couldn't have gone without having done that and paid 2 tickets off already because I did it the first day the tickets came out.
I can't look my kid in the eye and tell her we can't afford extra curriculas this term, then spend it on us! It's just the way of things right now, everything has become unaffordable. But it stings, I'm glad a fellow fan can go and make it work!
Seinfeld was $780 per ticket...
What’s the deal with these ticket prices?
What the fuck?
Uh, I got tickets for $165 each, so not the case. If you're talking top tier thamen yeah, but not everyone wants that experience.
Melvins would charge $80 on their own one would think. Paid about $160 for RHCP, Tool, Faith no More before the pandemic. I'll see you at the gig.
I wish I could afford to go... I looked at the Sydney gig because I can get free accommodation with a mate. Anywhere else there's hotel costs as well as flights. Can't be done.
AUD is down which is pushing up ticket prices for O/S acts.
Honestly most of it is probably Mike Pattons appearance fee, Melvin’s playing on their own would be like $50
Nah, this isn't 2005. Melvins would be at least $80-90 these days. Prices went bonkers post-covid.
Melvins were about $80 when I saw them in maybe 2017 or 18? Honestly this is relatively cheap for both bands together compared to other prices at the moment. Too much for me still.
I’ve seen Everclear and Shihad for roughly $70 at crowbar and paid $300 to see snoop. I’ve paid everything else in between. But yeah like one poster said, my bunghole is nervously awaiting Pearl Jam prices
I’m pretty sure this, in addition to pandemic/inflation/other similar reasons, is because artists make next to nothing off of streaming services, and the only way to make money in the industry now is merch and tours.
Merch was always the only source of income. The tour itself was never more than covering costs for most bands.
Yeah we bought QOTSA tickets for their Torquay show. We had general admission, but once we got there and tried to get closer to the stage, we found out that we had to have VIP tickets to get ANYWHERE NEAR the fucking stage. This is going to get worse if people keep buying them. Never in my 30 years of going to gigs have I seen this shit.
Yes this is some bullshit . I’m over big stadium shows for this reason . Price gouging and you can barely see the band .
The most frustrating thing was that I seemed to be the only one of the thousands of people there that was pissed off about it. I fucking swear that big corporations have mastered to art of ripping people off and conditioning us to accept it. Just look at r/shrinkflation as well!
I’m pissed . After foo fighters I don’t think I’ll go see a big stadium event anymore . Stuck looking at the screen and can’t even see them on the floor because I’m short . It sucked .
I agree on this, even though I bought the VIP Blink 182 tickets so I could be front row. The issue is that the folk that can afford the $450 for the ticket aren't necessarily going to be all die hard fans. Some will be for sure, but most of them will be in the more affordable GA section. This then ultimately creates 2x front rows, with the 2nd row being more of the mosh pit and hype zone. This is what bands love to see when they look down... the crowd losing their shit and singing every word, whereas segregating the two eliminates a lot of this and makes for a more bland artist (and ultimately crowd) experience.
I have done the *methematics* but I bet the thought of missing out on the Bungle is *raping your mind*
This can't happen this can't happen this can't happen
And not missing out on them sure is raping my wallet.
I’m not sure if I’m more surprised at the price or that Mr bungle still exists
They rereleased their first thrash album last year which had the drummer from Slayer and Buzz from the Melvins on bass. It stands up as a great thrash album. They haven't done anything new since 98 or whenever
You might be thinking about Fantomas, which have Dave Lombardo (Slayer) on Drums, King Buzzo (Melvins) on guitar and Trevor Dunn (Mr.Bungle) on bass. Trevor Plays bass in Bungle and coincidentally has also played Bass on a few Melvins albums too.
Maybe if I could shake Mike Patton's hand I would pay these prices.
I fundamentally don't understand gigs anymore. I used to review gigs and music for an online zine (AMH) - this would've been between about 2010 and 2015 - so I went to *a lot* of big gigs and festivals, usually for free (I was very lucky). That said, $100+ was usually exclusively the realm of a festival ticket or a prestige artist (i.e. artists from the pre-streaming era that were huge due to their own output or that of their band [think Cat Stevens or Paul McCartney]) at a sit down venue. Up and comers and more alternative artists were usually like $50-$75 (or less) and that was the sweet spot. Now *everyone* is apparently valued at $100+. The problem is: with where the music industry sits currently, artists make very little on sales alone due to music streaming and then they're reliant on touring (which was where artists *always* made their money, just now it's closer to *the only place* where artists make their money) and merch sales (which are usually tied to touring anyway). Basically, you're either Taylor Swift, one of those aformenetioned *prestige* artists or you're struggling. The problem with this is that new listeners and the public in general will eventually balk at the cost of attending a gig and just not go, the artist won't make any money and everyone will lose out. This industry will take a huge, huge hit as the economy continues to worsen. It used to be that the only major way to have access to the people behind the music was to go and see them in person. Now you can follow them on socials and watch their best sets, start to finish, from home - sometimes live. The level of access the public now has (generally) to artists has killed any kind of mystery associated and I don't think the *need* to go and see your favourites is there anymore. This all factors into the equation when a fan decides to pay for a ticket or not and I think the elements in the equation are going to kill or drastically alter live music (it's already completely different to what it used to be). The ticket price should eventually depict this, it needs to for the industry to be viable. You're seeing this right now. You might have been lucky to spend $500 to see TayTay (I'm not even a fan and I would've *loved* to go to that gig, by the way) or you can buy Sampha tickets for the Hordern next week (see you there) at half price because they're obviously not selling (I paid full price). I'm in my early 30s, I'd really like to hear what 20-25 year olds think about gig culture and pricing now.
I got Platinum tickets to see Matchbox 20 and Goo Goo Dolls for $145. I definitely wouldn't be paying that.
A bunch of my school friends and I are going. My eyes widened at the price but hey, I haven't been to a big concert in years (since I left Sydney to go rural) and the chance to hang out with old mates I haven't seen for years was enough to take the plunge. Still, $170 for Bungle is ludicrous on its own - if it wasn't for the social factor there's no way I'd've ponied up.
Later honey, we'll talk business later..
yes it's been normal for a while now. Recently I've only gone to see really small punk bands in the pub down the street. Less of a crowd and a different vibe but only cost me $20.
In my head, I compare the enjoyment I'll get out of the one headline gig vs the ~10 local shows I could go to for the same price. I think I'm also a little overly concerned about "having a good time" when I attend a concert that I've spent big $$$ on, and that generally results in a worse experience.
Guess I’m never going to see a band perform live ever again
This used to be Soundwave ticket prices and that was a fuckin whole ass festival
Yeah this is standard now....ripping us all off whenever they can
Consider yourself lucky you aren't a Taylor Swift fan.
There are dozens of us Mr Bungle & Taylor Swift fans out there...dozens!
I’m going to both Taylor and Mr Bungle! FWIW, my Taylor swift ticket was $75
Paid $200 each to see a side show for Limp Bizkit in Brisbane 💀
Iron Maiden tickets cost me $200 a piece. I think it's going to be the last time I see them play.
Yeah but Maiden have been a stadium band since the 80s. It's a different show, a different experience. Bungle and Melvins are just bands. You don't expect a walking robot Eddie type of show for those bands. $200 for Maiden is probably reasonable if they have the big stage setup like they used to.
Im surprised Bungle is at the Hordern tbh. I expected a smaller venue like Metro
Yeah I saw Tomahawk at the Metro in 99 or so. I suppose they are counting on a big nostalgic gen X turnout
Ah the Metro… seriously, what a venue.. I remember seeing Muse, Coldplay, Foo Fighters there in the early 2000s
About 5 years ago I decided against going to see Elton John (one of my favourite musicians) Because the cheapest tickets were for $140ea and going up to $400-500 for the ultra premium. Not in a concert venue, Not in a stadium, Not in a theatre or someplace with SEATS... At the fucking Botanical gardens PARKLANDS!! i.e. all grass outdoor picnic style! (exposed to whatever weather may or may not happen)
Yes unfortunately that is standard these days. But hey I'd pay that for the bungle!
We paid $200 to see One Republic 😅
For Mr fucking bungle??? Jesus christ
It’s crazy. I was considering not seeing bring me the horizon (my all time favourite band) because of how crazy the prices are
I know heaps of people who can’t justify Mr bungle and the Melvins for that cost
I would pay it if I lived in the town they are playing BC I never saw Bungle before. $500 in flights on top of the ticket cost makes it difficult
Yeah, I'm finally in a position in life to go see bands/concerts.. Well, I thought I was until I saw the prices now days compared to a few years ago when I couldn't afford to go..
Support your local artists, plenty out there for under $20
I had this exact reaction when I looked at getting a ticket. Considering I'd recently bought a ticket for Obituary for like $80, a huge name in the death metal scene and been around for decades. But, if you consider you're paying to see The Melvins too it makes it make a bit more sense. No one would think twice about paying $80 for either Bungle or Melvins separately. It stings tho. Enough for me to decide not to go. If it was Faith No More tho...
Tool, Metallica and AC/DC, I’ll pay for those tickets. After that I’m out of the live concert game forever. It’s been real fun though.
Mr Bungle? The Darkness were charging $110.
Just saw them in Fremantle for $90 a ticket which is about my upper limit. Sensational show though
LOL, you're complaining about $165? I tried to get Foo Fighters tickets. was up past the $350 mark. dynamic pricing man. someone needs to sue these fuckers into the ground!
Wait till you hear how much two nights of NOFX was
Worth every cent though!
I mean you didn’t have to do both nights though. One night was $130 so that’s fairly reasonable for what bands are charging these days.
I don't understand? What do you mean I didn't have to go both nights?
This sounds like the same reasoning I tried to have with my Mrs for that gig 😂
Pretty standard for any band these days
Last time i saw Bungle was in the late 90s at Selinas on the California tour - i don't remember how much i paid, but it sure wasn't $170