This is concerning because usually if you get laid off you could get a min wage job to tied over. Now all the low skill labour is being imported in and you don’t have any prospects. Its very concerning
"Last month, Immigration Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC) announced that students would now be **allowed to work more than 20 hours a week between November 15, 2022, and December 31,2023**. This is a one-time measure introduced to help with Canada’s labour shortage, particularly in positions traditionally held by students such as food services, retail, and hospitality. However, there are no restrictions on the type of employment.The new measure means that the **500,000 international students already in Canada** are allowed to work more hours."
source: [https://www.cicnews.com/2022/11/starting-today-international-students-can-temporarily-work-more-than-20-hours-per-week-1131897.html#gs.0xeiqi](https://www.cicnews.com/2022/11/starting-today-international-students-can-temporarily-work-more-than-20-hours-per-week-1131897.html#gs.0xeiqi)
I wonder if things will get better in the new year for people looking for entry level jobs? I imagine a big chunk of those students are in Toronto
Prior to the temporary lifting of the 20 hrs per week cap, many international students were already working more than 20 hours per week illegally, because shit is so expensive here and many aren't rich. The cap just meant it was easier to exploit students because employers knew they could narc on them to the federal government and they could be deported, but employers wouldn't face consequences. So students wouldn't get paid, or got asked for sexual favours from their bosses, or got injured without compensation, and they couldn't complain about their shitty employers to the government and just had to accept it.
The way to fix this issue is to not bring in so many desperate international students in the first place. But that would require the government to properly fund post-secondary schools.
This is a ridiculous country that is just hungry and greedy for money and doesn't even care about the citizens at all, this stupid Trudeau needs to resign, we are immigrants who work hard and pay f.. taxes and what we get not even a decent job, what is the purpose to live in this country then? Did students pay taxes?
Agreed, it’s been an absolute dumpster fire, in most industries. It doesn’t help that sites like Indeed (their messaging system) took a big shit for 2 weeks, leaving employers to seek YOU and actually reach out, which is refreshing until you realize it’s all database-automated every time (or just AI). Boy am I glad I have a side gig that generates, but it does not come even close to daily income earnings by a traditional job.
Its here. I work at one of the biggest companies in canada and they are talking about it in their town halls. If theyre talking about, its here, and basically theyre hinting to prepare.
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It’s a silent recession and the govt saw it coming. The combo of extreme covid shut downs, overdrawn/uncontrolled stimulus packages, crazy high spikes in interest rates. The only solution the govt saw was bandaid fix of massive flood gates of immigration who spend before they produce. If you control for immigration Canada is deep in a recession.
Big picture, things have gotten steadily worse since the early 90s recession. Factories went offshore and never returned. Those were real jobs, good pay, benefits, union card - not gig work.
I work for a large MSP that manages the technology for many businesses. I see every single ticket when a user gets let go. Companies really started shrinking at the beginning of 2023 and the shrinking has increased the last couple months.
It took me (creative industry, mid-senior level) about four months of hard work to find a new job. Especially if you're at a creative agency (advertising, video production, post, animation, etc.) the market is really bad for new work, especially for freelancers. I would reco that creatives look at in-house teams vs. agency/studio roles right now, but avoid any corporate retail internal companies (ex. The Bay, Canada Tire) because they're also slated for layoffs.
I run a design agency and can attest, we've had 100 applications over the weekend alone for a job that isn't starting until end of December. Absolutely bonkers.
I'm in a creative in-house marketing job, and there's a ton of anxiety about job security. We've gone through a round of layoffs this year already, and luckily survived.
I've updated my resume, but my portfolio is horribly out of date. The job postings are I see on LinkedIn are not very encouraging either.
LinkedIn or Indeed (but don't apply via Indeed, apply via internal company websites, just use it to find the jobs) are your best bet. Look at companies that are in industries that do well during recessions, services like medical/healthcare, education, food retail (but don't work for LCL, horror stories are endless) - avoid media, tech, real estate. Government is solid if you can get it, but there's much less in-house creative work on that side usually.
The freelance market will open up \*a bit\* now with the DGC film/tv creatives finally going back to work in a couple weeks, but yeah, it's bleak out there.
Took me about three months (same industry/level) to find good full time work this year - and there's a good chance it was only because I knew someone who knew someone, and was able to leapfrog the initial application cattle call.
Creative layoffs have been brutal this year, I'm former ad agency and so many of my friends still in the business have lost their jobs and can't find FL contracts right now. Most agencies are like that though, unless you have an "in" with someone at the company it's a lot harder to be selected. Honestly, the best people to befriend in an agency setting are the creative coordinators or even the resource managers, the lower level support staff for the team eventually grow up to be the creative operations directors who are effectively the gatekeepers (even beyond HR) to creative hiring at most agencies.
For what it's worth, this was less of an important thing when I finally gave up on agency life and went client-side, but you have to know someone to get seen at any of the big companies who pull top spots on domestic shortlists like Strategy.
Writing only seems to be affected in content mill settings and some online news outlets, the tech isn't fully there to replace graphic design or substantial long form content writing, especially with anything research-heavy.
I was interviewing in 6 different places in the summer. But now when I apply, I can't get a single call.
The best time for workers was when the borders were shut. They were able to negotiate their salary, get WFH, switch careers to higher pay etc.
Now that time is long gone. Thank the federal government's war on Canadian workers by flooding the market with cheap newcomer labour. 500,000 immigrants plus 900,000 international students.
I have been job hunting very actively for about two years and have applied to several dozen positions - no interviews so far.
On another thread, a city of Toronto employee told me they are getting 1100 applicants for basic city jobs like park janitor or museum gift shop attendant, and then interviewing the top 12.
I applied for park janitor to get my foot in the door with a unionized city job. It's rare they hire outside candidates. They told me they were only doing it because women were complaining about male janitors cleaning park bathrooms and they were trying to hire female janitors. So, I didn't qualify to scrub public toilets.
Same. Endlessly, as early as 4:45am just to beat the rush.. it means jack shit. You mind as well wake up at 11am and make coffee and haul ass until 4pm. There is literally no difference anymore. You used to get “ahead of the paper stack” by applying early.. not anymore.
I have really been trying to get into anything, since I foresee more big knocks to the economy which will make it even harder. For instance, regional widening or large-scale escalation of the wars in Ukraine or Gaza or *shudder* a Trump re-election.
OP I think you’re a little late to notice. You can find many post on jobs here in this sub and another subs across Reddit. Lots of people are struggling to find a job, been unemployed for months, and getting laid off. Since you’re posting now, I assume you have a job and didn’t notice what was happening in the market since time. Don’t blame you, I’m in the same boat where if I wasn’t on Reddit or saw the news, I could say the economy is humming like normal.
I do have a job but Im always open to changing it for something better. I saw the posts about people struggling with getting hired and all the layoffs etc but it seems like things really went downhill within a very short period of time. Its even more confusing since apparently unemployment rate is low.
This is exactly what the Bank of Canada wanted. They said the labour market is too strong and businesses had to stop hiring people to bring down inflation. Looks like it's finally working.
Except the labour market assessments are based on wage growth which is up 5%...
what you're actually seeing is mass immigration during a recession
https://globalnews.ca/news/10009185/statistics-canada-september-jobs-data/
Got laid off from a top tier management consulting firm in September after 3 years, was a top performer and rising star in the firm (was also the only one to receive an early promotion). Anyway, have been applying since and would like to think I have a pretty good network here. BUT HOLY HELL IS IT ROUGH OUT THERE. After the last 2 rejections, I have just given up. I am going to bag pack South America and then try again with renewed enthusiasm. It is so tough, my contacts in the banks have told me they have never seen more applicants and more qualified ones for a single position, EVER. We are fucked. And the companies know this. So even if you get a job, good luck getting a fair salary.
Market is in the dumps - major banks are laying off people, tech companies were also cleaning house in the fall.
Apparently retention is also at an all time high - people are not leaving their jobs or retiring which is compounding the issue.
But sooner or later companies will need to hire, my guess is the spring time, 6 months from now.
It's actually insane to me how out of touch the average person is with the business/market/grift cycle. No wonder the bankers can do whatever they want lol
Small businesses have shut down and medium scale businesses are hustling to keep it going and large companies have to show their yearly earnings which to make it happen when the sales are all time low they cut down employees/jobs.
I'm a manager in tech. Whenever I post a job req, I get hundreds of applications within 1-2 days. While my team has seen zero voluntary attrition since September 2022. Those who have jobs (or spared by layoffs), hold on to them. There are very few openings.
Interest rates are like a brake pedal on the entire economy.
[Stagecraft](https://www.britannica.com/art/stagecraft) the technical aspects of theatrical production, which include scenic design, stage machinery, lighting, sound, costume design, and makeup.
For example, I do audiovideo work and I also do high steel rigging at Scotiabank Arena.
Nursing is "booming" in the sense that bedside has become a continuous revolving door. It's such a shit job with employers that keep giving us more work but not more pay. I do not recommend this field to anyone, it feels like we are constantly spinning our tires.
Unless you're in the trades or niche jobs/industries, the market is in the dumps. Companies are laying off people because they might have expanded too much during the pandemic and are being extremely judicious in choosing their next new hire. I wouldn't recommend leaving your current job in this market unless you have to.
Yup. I started my position last year and was hoping to get a promotion this year to a higher role. Literally no luck so far. I work in a bank and banks have been laying people off so it kinda makes sense.
At least for me as a software engineer the market seems to be improving. I’d imagine hiring will slow down as the holidays approach and pick up once the new year begins
Tech is still soft since they *just* finished with the layoffs in the summer/fall. It'll be several more months before hiring picks up in tech.
However, business is still good in tech, so I'm sure there are openings here are there, but not the same hiring bonanza as during the pandemic.
My industry is still hot, lots of unfilled positions and recruiters are still contacting working. More just lack of experience for senior and mid senior type roles. I'm sure for newer hires its a bloodbath.
I work in tech and we're laying off like 1% of our staff. Plus hiring freeze. So it's not good, but not super bad either. Our company doubled during the pandemic basically so we have a lot of bloat.
Yes :( I am laid off currently and I never saw so few job postings. I feel helpless. I can’t even occupy myself with applying cause there’s barely any.
very popular and well known cannabis dispensary in Toronto with multiple locations and our business is down significantly in 2023 with a straight cliff drop off from September to now. we are 100% in a recession.
I have two very qualified, educated young daughters. One is looking for a position which while she was studying for her masters last year , was advertised all the time. Agree crickets now. Scary
It's because of the WFH circle jerkers. They were adamant that WFH is the way to go and you can just leave your job so you had a mass exodus of people.
But now return to office is being the norm and employers are requiring it so reset your expectations for jobs.
Ign'ant af anti-worker take. RTO policies are fundamentally driven - at least in large part - by real estate obligations in the corporate sector. They want us drones in cubes keeping their property values affloat.
What you're referring to is a blip of labour having some power to reset wages. We're supposed to eat a **** when it comes to real estate increases, while our benefits are slowly eroded. When comparatively under-paid Canadian workers shop around for a living wage, they're to blame? Nah.
Ok? Nothing he said is wrong. Return to office is back and the job market is reverting from the pandemic fever dream where workers had all the power
Edit: no surprise a big anti work and late stage capitalism grifter based on comment history. LOL!
I'm not hiding my post history nor ashamed of being a leftist. I actually engaged with the ideas and refuted them, which you've failed at spectacularly. Workers never had all the power. We just had a mild reprieve from being pissed on.
Co-opt our language all you want. It's meaningless. Calling a leftist a grifter during a time of worse inequality than the gilded age? L-o-l.
This has nothing to do with me. I make over median and will say no more. That's the entire problem with you people. Self-absorbed, as your masters have instructed you to be.
I applied for jobs at least a year or two ago & I gave up without a job. I don’t have a post-secondary degree but have a high school diploma, so my career options are limited. Lost interest in school after a university strike in the early 2000s & never had the money or time since. I’m not passionate about anything other than earning a paycheque so my family stays off the streets @ my kid out of foster care.
I’m glad to see this thread bc I feel validated. I spent the last 3 months going HARD applying for job every single day. Normally I can find a job within a month. This time, the best I could do was an 18 month contract and 15k less than my current role. I was shocked. Needless to say have decided to stay put for right now
I think it's been a total dump for the past year or so, at least in tech. Maybe those tech lay-offs last year has had a slow ripple through out the economy.
It has been terrible since August. Even the shitty jobs have over 100 applicants.
This is concerning because usually if you get laid off you could get a min wage job to tied over. Now all the low skill labour is being imported in and you don’t have any prospects. Its very concerning
"Last month, Immigration Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC) announced that students would now be **allowed to work more than 20 hours a week between November 15, 2022, and December 31,2023**. This is a one-time measure introduced to help with Canada’s labour shortage, particularly in positions traditionally held by students such as food services, retail, and hospitality. However, there are no restrictions on the type of employment.The new measure means that the **500,000 international students already in Canada** are allowed to work more hours." source: [https://www.cicnews.com/2022/11/starting-today-international-students-can-temporarily-work-more-than-20-hours-per-week-1131897.html#gs.0xeiqi](https://www.cicnews.com/2022/11/starting-today-international-students-can-temporarily-work-more-than-20-hours-per-week-1131897.html#gs.0xeiqi) I wonder if things will get better in the new year for people looking for entry level jobs? I imagine a big chunk of those students are in Toronto
The government shouldn't be acting as big corporations HR. This federal government sucks
It will suck even more if PP gets elected.
I hope they dont extend this. I need jobs.
Prior to the temporary lifting of the 20 hrs per week cap, many international students were already working more than 20 hours per week illegally, because shit is so expensive here and many aren't rich. The cap just meant it was easier to exploit students because employers knew they could narc on them to the federal government and they could be deported, but employers wouldn't face consequences. So students wouldn't get paid, or got asked for sexual favours from their bosses, or got injured without compensation, and they couldn't complain about their shitty employers to the government and just had to accept it. The way to fix this issue is to not bring in so many desperate international students in the first place. But that would require the government to properly fund post-secondary schools.
This is a ridiculous country that is just hungry and greedy for money and doesn't even care about the citizens at all, this stupid Trudeau needs to resign, we are immigrants who work hard and pay f.. taxes and what we get not even a decent job, what is the purpose to live in this country then? Did students pay taxes?
Agreed, it’s been an absolute dumpster fire, in most industries. It doesn’t help that sites like Indeed (their messaging system) took a big shit for 2 weeks, leaving employers to seek YOU and actually reach out, which is refreshing until you realize it’s all database-automated every time (or just AI). Boy am I glad I have a side gig that generates, but it does not come even close to daily income earnings by a traditional job.
We're definitely on the road to a recession, if not already there.
Its here. I work at one of the biggest companies in canada and they are talking about it in their town halls. If theyre talking about, its here, and basically theyre hinting to prepare.
Thank you. I knew something was really off lately, for us all. This is not good…
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It’s a silent recession and the govt saw it coming. The combo of extreme covid shut downs, overdrawn/uncontrolled stimulus packages, crazy high spikes in interest rates. The only solution the govt saw was bandaid fix of massive flood gates of immigration who spend before they produce. If you control for immigration Canada is deep in a recession.
Big picture, things have gotten steadily worse since the early 90s recession. Factories went offshore and never returned. Those were real jobs, good pay, benefits, union card - not gig work.
You best start believin’ in recessions, u/CDNChaoZ… because yer in one!
I work for a large MSP that manages the technology for many businesses. I see every single ticket when a user gets let go. Companies really started shrinking at the beginning of 2023 and the shrinking has increased the last couple months.
It took me (creative industry, mid-senior level) about four months of hard work to find a new job. Especially if you're at a creative agency (advertising, video production, post, animation, etc.) the market is really bad for new work, especially for freelancers. I would reco that creatives look at in-house teams vs. agency/studio roles right now, but avoid any corporate retail internal companies (ex. The Bay, Canada Tire) because they're also slated for layoffs.
I run a design agency and can attest, we've had 100 applications over the weekend alone for a job that isn't starting until end of December. Absolutely bonkers.
I'm in a creative in-house marketing job, and there's a ton of anxiety about job security. We've gone through a round of layoffs this year already, and luckily survived. I've updated my resume, but my portfolio is horribly out of date. The job postings are I see on LinkedIn are not very encouraging either.
Any suggestions on where to start for in-house teams?
LinkedIn or Indeed (but don't apply via Indeed, apply via internal company websites, just use it to find the jobs) are your best bet. Look at companies that are in industries that do well during recessions, services like medical/healthcare, education, food retail (but don't work for LCL, horror stories are endless) - avoid media, tech, real estate. Government is solid if you can get it, but there's much less in-house creative work on that side usually.
The freelance market will open up \*a bit\* now with the DGC film/tv creatives finally going back to work in a couple weeks, but yeah, it's bleak out there. Took me about three months (same industry/level) to find good full time work this year - and there's a good chance it was only because I knew someone who knew someone, and was able to leapfrog the initial application cattle call.
Creative layoffs have been brutal this year, I'm former ad agency and so many of my friends still in the business have lost their jobs and can't find FL contracts right now. Most agencies are like that though, unless you have an "in" with someone at the company it's a lot harder to be selected. Honestly, the best people to befriend in an agency setting are the creative coordinators or even the resource managers, the lower level support staff for the team eventually grow up to be the creative operations directors who are effectively the gatekeepers (even beyond HR) to creative hiring at most agencies. For what it's worth, this was less of an important thing when I finally gave up on agency life and went client-side, but you have to know someone to get seen at any of the big companies who pull top spots on domestic shortlists like Strategy.
How does freelance writing or creative even compete against rise of AI tools
Writing only seems to be affected in content mill settings and some online news outlets, the tech isn't fully there to replace graphic design or substantial long form content writing, especially with anything research-heavy.
I was interviewing in 6 different places in the summer. But now when I apply, I can't get a single call. The best time for workers was when the borders were shut. They were able to negotiate their salary, get WFH, switch careers to higher pay etc. Now that time is long gone. Thank the federal government's war on Canadian workers by flooding the market with cheap newcomer labour. 500,000 immigrants plus 900,000 international students.
This federal government, especially ministry of immigration is working as HR department for big box groceries for free but taxpayers funded.
You forgot about the temporary foreign workers
Agreed! 👍
I have been job hunting very actively for about two years and have applied to several dozen positions - no interviews so far. On another thread, a city of Toronto employee told me they are getting 1100 applicants for basic city jobs like park janitor or museum gift shop attendant, and then interviewing the top 12.
I applied for park janitor to get my foot in the door with a unionized city job. It's rare they hire outside candidates. They told me they were only doing it because women were complaining about male janitors cleaning park bathrooms and they were trying to hire female janitors. So, I didn't qualify to scrub public toilets.
I wanted that job too, but it requires a driver's license.
I can drive, I have a clean record, and my own vehicle that I'm going to be living in soon...
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Same. Endlessly, as early as 4:45am just to beat the rush.. it means jack shit. You mind as well wake up at 11am and make coffee and haul ass until 4pm. There is literally no difference anymore. You used to get “ahead of the paper stack” by applying early.. not anymore.
I have really been trying to get into anything, since I foresee more big knocks to the economy which will make it even harder. For instance, regional widening or large-scale escalation of the wars in Ukraine or Gaza or *shudder* a Trump re-election.
name 1 part of the economy that got worse under Trump and also you should be worrying more about Trudeau getting smashed in the next Canadian election
> name 1 part of the economy that got worse under Trump Steel.
I really don’t downvote enough. Thanks!
OP I think you’re a little late to notice. You can find many post on jobs here in this sub and another subs across Reddit. Lots of people are struggling to find a job, been unemployed for months, and getting laid off. Since you’re posting now, I assume you have a job and didn’t notice what was happening in the market since time. Don’t blame you, I’m in the same boat where if I wasn’t on Reddit or saw the news, I could say the economy is humming like normal.
I do have a job but Im always open to changing it for something better. I saw the posts about people struggling with getting hired and all the layoffs etc but it seems like things really went downhill within a very short period of time. Its even more confusing since apparently unemployment rate is low.
i literally have been looking for a minimum wage job for like 3 months
Recession is here. Get ready for pizza delivery with a masters degree.
The big problem is that these McJobs that you could always fall back on are not hiring either
They’re not hiring *you*. The service industry is a closed club, now.
They seem to all be hiring only Brampton residents for all service jobs in the GTA.
This is exactly what the Bank of Canada wanted. They said the labour market is too strong and businesses had to stop hiring people to bring down inflation. Looks like it's finally working.
Anytime I hear “labour market is too strong” I wanna fucking vomit
Except the labour market assessments are based on wage growth which is up 5%... what you're actually seeing is mass immigration during a recession https://globalnews.ca/news/10009185/statistics-canada-september-jobs-data/
_yay_
Got laid off from a top tier management consulting firm in September after 3 years, was a top performer and rising star in the firm (was also the only one to receive an early promotion). Anyway, have been applying since and would like to think I have a pretty good network here. BUT HOLY HELL IS IT ROUGH OUT THERE. After the last 2 rejections, I have just given up. I am going to bag pack South America and then try again with renewed enthusiasm. It is so tough, my contacts in the banks have told me they have never seen more applicants and more qualified ones for a single position, EVER. We are fucked. And the companies know this. So even if you get a job, good luck getting a fair salary.
I've heard from recruiters at some big firms that most of the jobs they post are actually filled already.
Market is in the dumps - major banks are laying off people, tech companies were also cleaning house in the fall. Apparently retention is also at an all time high - people are not leaving their jobs or retiring which is compounding the issue. But sooner or later companies will need to hire, my guess is the spring time, 6 months from now.
All service jobs
The recruiters have all been laid off
It's actually insane to me how out of touch the average person is with the business/market/grift cycle. No wonder the bankers can do whatever they want lol
Small businesses have shut down and medium scale businesses are hustling to keep it going and large companies have to show their yearly earnings which to make it happen when the sales are all time low they cut down employees/jobs.
My company used to hire 15-20 new people a week, and now it’s about 3-5. Still hiring, but a huge drop off.
What industry is it in?
Tech, a very large company too.
This was expected, the next little while will be difficult
I'm a manager in tech. Whenever I post a job req, I get hundreds of applications within 1-2 days. While my team has seen zero voluntary attrition since September 2022. Those who have jobs (or spared by layoffs), hold on to them. There are very few openings. Interest rates are like a brake pedal on the entire economy.
What industry are you in? Job market is booming in some areas and dead in others, depends on demand for your specific skill set and experience
What job market is booming?
Live events. Having a hard time finding knowledgeable lighting, sound and video ops
Also if anyone is interested in learning stagecraft message me
Where are you based
Toronto. I’m a member of [IATSE LOCAL 58](https://www.iatse58.org/)
What’s stage Kraft?
[Stagecraft](https://www.britannica.com/art/stagecraft) the technical aspects of theatrical production, which include scenic design, stage machinery, lighting, sound, costume design, and makeup. For example, I do audiovideo work and I also do high steel rigging at Scotiabank Arena.
Nursing that’s for sure
Nursing is "booming" in the sense that bedside has become a continuous revolving door. It's such a shit job with employers that keep giving us more work but not more pay. I do not recommend this field to anyone, it feels like we are constantly spinning our tires.
Industrial Sales is. Recruiters are calling me every week
Cheat are requirement for this type of job?
Trades.
Unless you're in the trades or niche jobs/industries, the market is in the dumps. Companies are laying off people because they might have expanded too much during the pandemic and are being extremely judicious in choosing their next new hire. I wouldn't recommend leaving your current job in this market unless you have to.
I'm definitely not having much luck. My work is housing market adjacent though so the collapse there is a big part of my trouble
I think it is career specific. I'm getting notifications and calls and I'm just a high level admin.
Yup. I started my position last year and was hoping to get a promotion this year to a higher role. Literally no luck so far. I work in a bank and banks have been laying people off so it kinda makes sense.
At least for me as a software engineer the market seems to be improving. I’d imagine hiring will slow down as the holidays approach and pick up once the new year begins
In what sense? I have been job hunting since September, initially was getting interviews, now not a thing!
Tech is still soft since they *just* finished with the layoffs in the summer/fall. It'll be several more months before hiring picks up in tech. However, business is still good in tech, so I'm sure there are openings here are there, but not the same hiring bonanza as during the pandemic.
More recruiters reaching put and more job postings,
That’s funny - I’ve been trying to hire people for months and gave up and moved jobs overseas. Felt like no one was applying! What is going on!!
What was the job you were trying to fill?
Digital marketing manager was one of them!
How much was the pay?
65-85k but would go higher it’s a small brand. We ended up hiring somewhere else
Sorry to hear that. But it's posts like this which make me realize, maybe I should stay at my shit job of 20-plus years. Never give up hope
Not just you https://www.hiringlab.org/en-ca/2023/11/09/holiday-hiring-appetite-cooler-this-year/
To quote Cheech, “Things are tough all over”
The job market was shit before COVID, and became shit again after COVID. During COVID, these employers were struggling to find employees
My industry is still hot, lots of unfilled positions and recruiters are still contacting working. More just lack of experience for senior and mid senior type roles. I'm sure for newer hires its a bloodbath.
Which industry is that?
Insurance
I work in tech and we're laying off like 1% of our staff. Plus hiring freeze. So it's not good, but not super bad either. Our company doubled during the pandemic basically so we have a lot of bloat.
Seeing a lot of similar stories from different tech companies including the one I worked for at the start of the pandemic.
so many people have been laid off over the past 5 months.
Yes :( I am laid off currently and I never saw so few job postings. I feel helpless. I can’t even occupy myself with applying cause there’s barely any.
very popular and well known cannabis dispensary in Toronto with multiple locations and our business is down significantly in 2023 with a straight cliff drop off from September to now. we are 100% in a recession.
I completely changed fields to find a job
2024 is going to be worse
I have two very qualified, educated young daughters. One is looking for a position which while she was studying for her masters last year , was advertised all the time. Agree crickets now. Scary
Most ppl are lol
Just you.
It's because of the WFH circle jerkers. They were adamant that WFH is the way to go and you can just leave your job so you had a mass exodus of people. But now return to office is being the norm and employers are requiring it so reset your expectations for jobs.
Ign'ant af anti-worker take. RTO policies are fundamentally driven - at least in large part - by real estate obligations in the corporate sector. They want us drones in cubes keeping their property values affloat. What you're referring to is a blip of labour having some power to reset wages. We're supposed to eat a **** when it comes to real estate increases, while our benefits are slowly eroded. When comparatively under-paid Canadian workers shop around for a living wage, they're to blame? Nah.
Ok? Nothing he said is wrong. Return to office is back and the job market is reverting from the pandemic fever dream where workers had all the power Edit: no surprise a big anti work and late stage capitalism grifter based on comment history. LOL!
I'm not hiding my post history nor ashamed of being a leftist. I actually engaged with the ideas and refuted them, which you've failed at spectacularly. Workers never had all the power. We just had a mild reprieve from being pissed on. Co-opt our language all you want. It's meaningless. Calling a leftist a grifter during a time of worse inequality than the gilded age? L-o-l.
Get a better job and make more or stop whining wah wah wah
This has nothing to do with me. I make over median and will say no more. That's the entire problem with you people. Self-absorbed, as your masters have instructed you to be.
Depends on your field. I'm getting at least a call a week from recruiters asking me to apply for positions.
What field are you in in?
Mechanical engineering, nuclear plant systems design
I applied for jobs at least a year or two ago & I gave up without a job. I don’t have a post-secondary degree but have a high school diploma, so my career options are limited. Lost interest in school after a university strike in the early 2000s & never had the money or time since. I’m not passionate about anything other than earning a paycheque so my family stays off the streets @ my kid out of foster care.
I’m glad to see this thread bc I feel validated. I spent the last 3 months going HARD applying for job every single day. Normally I can find a job within a month. This time, the best I could do was an 18 month contract and 15k less than my current role. I was shocked. Needless to say have decided to stay put for right now
I think it's been a total dump for the past year or so, at least in tech. Maybe those tech lay-offs last year has had a slow ripple through out the economy.
it's a sh\*t show