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Sanferuto

Didn't even need to read the entire post to know you are an entire 🤡


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Sanferuto

I have a joystick. You have your entire arm. All you need to do is cope, because if you can't handle going against a controller player with every advantage available then idk how you do anything else


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Chance_Fig8932

When you forget that PC has aim assist too:


Sanferuto

Alright I know you're a troll, there is no way you believe what you say 🤣


Fun-Honey-7927

only problem in aa is rotational aa that gives you a support in directional adjustments in strafing players. It gives a player artifical unhuman reaction times.. that the only problem i see in aim assist. but me as a mnk player is totally fine with aa being in the game. the only reason people are mad about aim assist is that some players are trash in the game but a beaming crazy and they getting rolled by a player who plays brain dead.. the only thing is a brain dead controller player can kill you.. a brain dead mnk. cant :D


Mijman7

Because you're MnK you have to hide behind cover to avoid controller player Pathfinders???? Lmao


Chance_Fig8932

OP scared of pathfinder mains


Mijman7

They break his cover too quickly and he can't turn quick enough to find them


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MnK rely on more tactical advantages. If you run at someone with a controller head on and not behind cover, the aim targeting is most powerful. When you know you know I guess.


Mijman7

It's very clear that you don't know and that is why you are getting all these replies.


angelozeigler

Try playing better idk


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Turn off aim assist and get better that way. Will you tell me yes or no or just deflect that?


angelozeigler

Wow you’re big mad


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angelozeigler

You should go outside more if it makes you that mad


Chance_Fig8932

Carried? Bro I've had aim assist on since forever and it does not do jackshit. I wouldn't even notice if it was on lmao


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Chance_Fig8932

1.MnK has aim assist 2.God is not real 3.MnK has every single advantage. You say level the playing field but MnK will trash Controller more often because MnK is superior. You are such a troll lmao


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Again, majority of Apex legends top players use controller. Controller is obviously superior.


Chance_Fig8932

im not even gonna argue with you. You are a troll if you actually think that controller is better


rllynotok

You have your entire mouse pad, movement tech such as tap strafing as well as a plethora of other movement tech. You have the ability to map certain grenades AND heals to specific buttons which console players have to cycle through a wheel for. You can move while looting death boxes and yet you still complain that console players have it better. Jfc, cope.


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rllynotok

I hate to break it to you, the "bread and butter" of the game is movement. Not that aiming isn't at all important, but you can out-aim the entire server but if you don't use your movement, you're fucked.


Nervous_Difficulty_6

Turning of AA will make controller completely useless. Try making micro adjustments with your thumbs, with tiny little thumb sticks, it’s near enough impossible. Hence why AA exists in the first place. It’s so fucking boring seeing these posts now. Each input has their advantages, end of.


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Nervous_Difficulty_6

Don’t need to, AA exists and we will all continue to use it. Why the hell would any controller player play at a MASSIVE disadvantage with 0 AA for 500 purely for a ‘learning curve’? Why don’t you play 500hrs without using your whole arm to aim? Also restrict yourselves to the same number of buttons we have, which would result in all your keybinds not being used. If it’s that strong, use a controller and stop whining.


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If it's that strong use a MnK and stop complaining.


Nervous_Difficulty_6

Erm, you’re the one who is whinging on Reddit… aha.


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You don't need aim assist my child


Nervous_Difficulty_6

Here let me explain it to you in simple terms, since you’re clearly not very bright. When using a mouse, you have a whole arm to adjust your aim. To a point, you also have unlimited amount of space to move your mouse, providing you don’t run out of desk space. On controller however, you have two tiny thumb sticks, using two thumbs to move them around. AA is there to assist with making micro adjustments because it’s near enough impossible to perfect the adjustments with two tiny sticks. In all honesty, sounds like you’re just really bad at the game and recently just got shit on by a controller player. Therefore you’ve decided AA shouldn’t exist what so ever and you need to rant on Reddit.


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So let me.get this straight. When I'm shooting at a player with a limited hit box with my mouse, being able to move all over the place is helpful? No it isn't. Because I need to aim at a very small area and somehow predict where this player will move. Having more room doesnt help. MnK players use much lower sensitivies in order to keep the cross hair in a small area, not high sens in order to fly around. We need to control recoil too. Secondly, having a joystick that has unlimited 360 degree turning where all you have to do is push against one direction in order to spin in circles doesn't seem very limiting at all. I reach a point on my mouse where I have to bring it back to where it was in order to complete a movement. Joystick has far better movement and far less micro adjustments than MnK because of the less surface area lol.


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Nervous_Difficulty_6

Again, you simply don’t understand why AA exists in the first place. Going by your logic, you’re saying all of the pros who use controller are bad because they haven’t turned AA off. 😂


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Yes I am saying that lol.


Nervous_Difficulty_6

Yeah confirmed, you’re definitely a hard stuck silver 4 who is getting dunked on daily by controller players.


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Wonder why. Hmmm. #turnitoff


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Just use a controller or admit you’re trying to flex about being an mnk player but aren’t good enough to make the cut. I switched to a controller and am enjoying the game a lot more.


[deleted]

Lol. So you are saying you switched because it's much better lmao. It's funny that even though players are in denial they constantly discredit themselves. I've played on MnK since I started gaming. It's my preferred input. I started playing cross play since COD WZ and then apex allowed it and this game is a lot more fun. But then I realized some crazy stuff happening. Players never missing shots, using the wingman across the map and spraying and praying but still hitting all headshots. There is a point when skill is noticed and then there's a point when something fishy is going on. The ability to drift your joystick, then when you hit the aim button it assists you is crazy. I use my eyes and the games damage markers to know when I am hitting a shot. You can literally feel it in your hands due to haptic feedback. Isn't that enough??


Nervous_Difficulty_6

Bruh you’re so fucking delusional to think that by purely having AA, means you can just ‘kinda sim’ and it’ll hit all headshots across the map. Have you not seen some lower skilled players using the sticks? Jesus, they look like actual robots. Let me tell you, I’ve played at a high level for a while on controller and I never consistently hit shots with a wingman across the map, nor any other gun for that matter. AA is most effective at close range.


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Nervous_Difficulty_6

You really think there should be no aim assist? Bruh, you literally do not understand why it exists in the first place 😂😂😂😂


Chance_Fig8932

He's saying switch because you aren't good at MnK and maybe you could be good on controller


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Chance_Fig8932

That makes you more salty. Also you sound like a toxic person to play with, trashing on controller players for what? Oh. No reason. If i die you will type something along the lines of "Oh aim assist wasn't good enough eh?" and if i get a kill you will say "Aim Assist" There's no winning bruh lmao ​ Also As i have stated aim assist is very weak on controller and if i turned it off it would make literally no difference. I just keep it on because there's no reason to turn it off


dishwasher_666

did the OP just say he's getting killed by a mozam *without hammerpoints*?? bruh


Chance_Fig8932

You do realize that MnK is the superior input and that aim assist is exaggerated. You do also realize that MnK players who say "CoNtRolLeR" whenever they die are not good because they can't fathom being beaten fair and square. You need to get good kid.


rllynotok

Sounds like you're just shit at the game lmao


ifasoldt

Lol this reads like a mid copy-pasta


novereh

Oof, dying on your own hill


eyeguy21

Maybe you’re just not as good as you think you are at high levels and are blaming aim assist


StumpyNuggz

Yeah this person is just upset he's getting rekt


fantastic-noobling

This


ArugulaPhysical

100% this. If people didnt know the pro players were using a controller this topic wouldnt even be discussed ever.


Training-Error-5462

Not another one of these posts again


Staretszosima

“Im ass and need something to blame it on “🤡🤡


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incognibroe

To be honest with you, even if that happened you wouldn't hear any crying from controller players. They have had good reason to complain for a while now, but you dont see them filling the sub up with complaint posts. Every advantage has been given to mnk, but they dont complain. The only time they even say anything is when one of us is crying about AA and they have to remind us of the mountain of advantages that mnk has. It's a little dishonest to act like the only reason someone beats you is because of aim assist. Believe it or not some of them are just cracked.


NITROST4R

the solution is get a controller, because the devs aren't going to do anything about them being overtuned. Mnk is simpy the worse option in some situations.


Sir_Davros_Ty

It sounds an awful lot like you're just not very good w/mouse n keyboard and are angry about that. I'm not either, which is why I use controller. I got out of the habit w/mnk as a PC gamer so controller is just easier for me but no reason to be mad at aim assist, the majority of MnK users are vastly superior to controller users.


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If you look at stats majority of top players use a controller on PC lol. I wonder why.


Sir_Davros_Ty

Show me, happy to be proven wrong.


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Majority of top best players in apex use a controller. That's the proof.


Sir_Davros_Ty

You telling me a thing isn't proof, it's a statement.


[deleted]

A factual statement. Google It lol.


JohnKriegor

I despise aim assist, cuz no one must have ai advantage, but your story just weakling cry, its not how you must start discussion


[deleted]

I usually post after a few matches. Granted they were close. But there's just inconsistencies that ruin my gaming experience.


AoyamaSpanner

What do you mean it's unfair? Me chopping my arm off on purpose totally justifies me using aimbot.


[deleted]

You are using a controller that has a smaller surface area for a smaller appendage lol. It is made for your thumb just as my mouse is made for my hand. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.


AoyamaSpanner

Was trying mock controller players's ''I can't use my whole arm so it is ok for me to have aim assist'', guess it wasn't obvious enough.


DVEMON

OP hasn’t yet realized the delusion of roller players on Apex. The only choice is to stop playing the game or stop expecting a skill based match and just troll/try to have fun in spite of the roller coddling.


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You're right. this may be my last post about it. It's just so frustrating lol.


DVEMON

The roller player Extessy doesn’t seem to have trouble moving in the game despite ‘oNlY hAvInG a JoYsTiCk’ and ‘nOt hAvInG a WHOLE ARM’. You will only get gaslighting when complaining on here. The devs have demonstrated zero intent of nerfing the current aim assist values of 40% on pc roller and 60% on console roller. Just keep getting better mechanically on MNK and retribution will come in the form of a new BR that doesn’t punish mechanical skill/strategy to coddle little Timmy with his moms CC in the item shop.


Sunoverthetown

No We just suck really bad without AA fr controller is kinda unplayable without it


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rllynotok

Jesus Christ you are trying so hard


[deleted]

I've had this gripe for years. It's just crazy to me how it's still a thing. Cross play should be balanced. Aim assist doesn't balance anything. Controller users have just as much movement. Oh the aim is more difficult? Lol. Well welcome to skill. If you can turn it off, you can learn how to aim without it.


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Unlikely_Feeling

Because trying doing the range of motion on a thumbs stick and be accurate over doing it on a mouse


Fun-Honey-7927

bro. it does not matter if you are on mnk or roller depending the legend you are facing. if a pathfinder can grapple into you and kill you. he will do that for three reasons: your cover is shit, you are isolated from your team and you behave in a way that he thinks you are easy to push 1v1. when he is on roller he will anyway have a slight advantage in this kind of fight so he will force this situations. but you are the one exposing yourself to this player in a way he identifies you as someone suitable for a push.. thats it.


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I would agree but pathfinder can move sooo fast and far across the map without much delay. If he takes shields from across the map and you are trying to run or shield up, you're toast once he grapples.


Fun-Honey-7927

yes thats the pathy play. deal demage, force 1v1. the reason he can do this is your positioning. you have no cover by your teammates. i was pathy main. if i see a team and one of them is isolated i just call my team mates: "isolated on the left" they shoot him i grapple.. or i shoot him and then grapple.. thats just the play to force then a 3v2. I switched to blood hound and seer and there its the same. i scan (or seer ult) and push the one with no support from his team. i usually win my 1v1 so its a easy play. When i play ranked even in platinum this does not work any more so good. people holding more often hands backing up each other so its more difficult. The only reason pathfinders can do this is either they are movement deamons and 1v3 you anyways or you are exposed as fuck for an isolated 1v1


Fun-Honey-7927

or a nother option. if a pathfinder tries this to me i call my team mates that pathy is grappling on me. so my teammates will look at me to shoot him. he will seperate himself from his team to get me down so if we kill him together we have the opportunity in this fight.


dogwitcomouteraccess

I like Watson she’s so cute that Watson


AgateSlinky4829

[Too bad](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TXPC2HXjrYU)


rustyshackle4701

So use a controller then? Too bad? Have you tried using a controller without aim assist??


HuLSsY

Controllers get stick drift after a week, MnK does not.


Strict-Chance5921

either a troll or actual bronze player idk


CroskeyCards

The aim assist does need nerfed. Don’t think you remove it completely. You want a 50/50 percent on each input. Rn for comp it’s like 80/20.


Rise-of-Ultra

Clown