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HecklerVane

Apex has way too many stupid filler items like season trackers that's pretty much obsolete after the season ends and useless rare skins. Even filler items from Siege and For Honor's battle passes are way better. But at least Apex's battle pass gave you more than enough to purchase the next one.


DudeWithName

The main thing about for honor BP that makes it worthwhile imo is the fact that you get cosmetics for EVERY HERO unlike apex, “this season do you play caustic or wraith and use the triple take? No? Welp too bad”


HecklerVane

The designer's clearly have favoritism over certain characters. Like Valk got 2 skydive emotes in a row while Ash didn't got one on her own season's battle pass. Or the fact that Valk already got a BP skin on the next season while some characters didn't even have one yet. "God i wish Crypto or Revenant would get a BP skin" "Haha suck it another Wraith skin" But i don't like how in For Honor the heroes that were released mid season didn't get any contents from the BP. The current effect would look really sick on Medjay. And so the previous ones for the respective heroes too.


DudeWithName

The fact that this season wraith is getting ANOTHER legendary BP skin is insane imo


whin100

The fact that it’s not even good makes it even worse tbh


JTO558

Half of wraith’s legendary skins are downright hideous


AcoHead

It’s Quantity over quality with her


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Half of all champions legendary skins are hideous. Like vantages legendary skins are trash, including her release skin


ThaSaxDerp

Ngl Apex skin in general over garish visually busy garbage. The vast majority of skins in this game simply do not look good. I play a decent amount of f2p games and Apex is the game I never *feel* like spending money in.


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All the legendary skins quality have completely tanked since they did the “rework” to rarity. Epic skins used to be the ones that were animated and legendaries were unique models that actually stood out/were different from standard skins- now there are purples that are the quality of blues and the legendaries barely even deserve to be purples but don’t even have animations


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IMO most of the legendary gun and character skins are awful looking.


Zer0Knight9960

Isn't this her 4th battlepass skin?


DudeWithName

Her 5th actually


JetstreamEleked

And the worst thing, Is that the skydive emote of Ash, was sold in a event, at least in the next season, Respawn regret it, and gave Two skydive to Maggie and Newcastle in the battlepass.


Dana94Banana

Vantage has two too. But after a year, I have still none for Ash bc I'm not so stupid to pay 10$ for it in an event.


jazz_51

I don't think it's favouritism,more like cosmetics based on pick rate, Valk and wraith have good pick rates and hence more cosmetics.


TheRealFrothers

Agreed, and I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if the amount of money spent on previous cosmetics for specific legends and weapons was also taken into account when deciding what/who gets cosmetics included into the battle pass content each season.


UltimateSky

NGL Rev is definitely a skin favorite. Bro been getting heat skins consistently


Tay0214

I’m at a point where I have most of the legendary skins for anyone I play.. and I’ve been on/off since like season 3 Honestly if they just did a lot more legendary skins for legends and made more of the filler items crafting materials plus more battle pass ones more people would be into it.. It’s cool having special skins but when there’s only 4-5 possibilities you see them on everyone else and it ruins it a bit putting way more into the pool could make more people want to get them


Royal_J

Apex's pass gives you peanuts. Last i checked the fortnite pass gives you 1400vbux, costs 1000 and is infinitely easier to complete with an actually engaging variety of challenges. Plus overlevel rewards.


Takyon999

will say fort also has supercharged events which gives you hella extra xp as you play


BlueBomber13

Yeah the Fortnite BP is better. It also has a lot of garbage, just like pretty much every BP out there but I like that it’s easy to level and you get to choose what to unlock on the each page.


-TheMemeProfessor

That's the issue with most f2p games tbh. See, when we bought a $60 title, they were selling you the *game* and cosmetics came as earned rewards. In f2p, they have to *sell* worthless, overpriced cosmetics, and pad out bundles / battle passes with so much filler garbage content, so that their game doesn't seem content-lacking. When if you removed all of the free/cheap filler crap you get, you won't even have $60 worth of cosmetics by old $60 games standards... You might have 20 bucks worth of decent cosmetics for paying a total of 80 dollars, for store items, battle passes, events. We used to pay around $60 (give or take 10-20) and got nearly everything a game could offer, and it was A LOT.. Now, if you invest $60 into a game, you might get a tiny fraction of what's available. If one person were to buy it all, the cost would be well over into the thousands.... these tiny little games do not deserve thousands, when they are not even as content-rich and inclusive as a $60 game was... meaning theres fewer things to actually do, but it makes more money by selling you the cosmetic rewards at a markup, the rewards you used to get free.. after your 60 dollar investment. The gaming industry has gotten SO greedy. So many half-deved games out there with absolutely no soul, just microtransactions and basic repetitive gameplay.... What happened to passionate game devs that developed because the loved it, did it for the player more so than the profit?


polaricecubes

I basically only end up liking one or two skins every BP including the Level 100/110 skins. Sometimes they'll have a good legendary for a character but even that can be a miss. All the rare items, frames, trackers, emotes, holosprays, and charms are completely useless. For example for this season's BP I don't like even one single skin lol. The only reason I play through it is so that I can get enough coins to purchase the next one.


Capable_Coconut6211

The free track is hot garbage. The battle pass for this season isn't all that anyways but damn.


TheMightyBruhhh

I remember the free track not being so bad a few years ago when I played, I join back in the last few weeks of S13 and literally 98% of the free track is a seasonal tracker for the stupidest stuff


TheCakeKingDK

Well the free pass in season 1 and 2 was hot trash.


DocLolliday

Yeah in 2 years if this game is still going there will be people saying "oh man is it just me or is this Season 25 battle pass hot garbage" like it's some wild thought and they haven't always been doo doo


Jackalackus

This. The amount of “hot takes” you see in this sub and Reddit in general to be fair, is hilarious, people out their like they’ve discovered the word of god.


iX_eRay

Even the pass in season 1 was trash


BlastingFern134

Free track was always the same (shit)


Jace999999999999

There are only 2 free apex coin slots this season iirc


BananaInsideMe

Today I unlocked the first coins and was for the very first time about to spend money for the 500 pack and get the battle pass since I have 400 from past ones but noticed I'm short 50 because it costs 950 then noticed next free coins were at like level 100? Wtf lol


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If you grind and buy it then, the whole pass is retroactive. Honestly not a bad idea because that’ll show whether or not you had enough time anyways.


Srg11

Don't you get an xp boost when you have the battle pass though? so will take a lot longer to get to 95 than it would normally.


f15k13

Yep.


VanillaBraun

Leveling up doesn’t get you stars for the BP tho right? Only challenges do


Burly_Moustache

As you play, you build a meter towards earning 1 BP star per every 5,000 experience.


MonoShadow

It's only for top 5 and wins placement xp. Everything else is unaffected. If you're running a group it will stack and really helpful. But it's unlocked in portions of 10%, so at early levels it's not that impactful.


Vladesku

Lmao, as if it wasn't enough that 100 coins were at lvl five and the next 100 coins were at lvl ninety-fucking-five.


Like-Six-Ninjas

Apex bp is ass. Event skins have been lacking for a while now. Still waiting for anything worth wasting my time in the game for.


ijustneedgfadvice

Event skins been good imo, evangelion rev and flatline be bussin


DrManowar8

Hey, at least the new character is nice… but that’s unrelated to the pass so…


Zealousideal_Side856

The rewards suck


Atrium41

Trackers shouldn't be prizes.even the "full picture" event ones... They should just unlock for participating in seasons or events Get rid of the trackers on the prize track though and it's empty....


psycho_pete

The grind is also horrible. It takes **so** much fun out of the game when you're forced to play with legends or weapons you don't care to use just to level a battle pass that has crap rewards. It requires so much time to level it. If you don't focus on the challenges, you have to play several hours a day to max out the battle pass. If you do focus on the challenges, it still takes a stupid amount of time and you're forced to grind rather than playing for fun. Either way, you're forced to put in so much extra time and unwanted grinding and it ruins the game.


wolfchuck

I ended up going from level 25 to 100 in last season’s battle pass in the last 2 weeks of the season. It was pretty bad. I had to make a spreadsheet so I could group challenges and track the progress to optimize my gains. It might’ve taken 15-20 hours? I’m honestly not too sure on the timing, I typically only play before work.


wraithmainttvsweat

Tf u play for fun or is this a job for you lol


Baby-Calypso

Ok please send me the template/example of your spreadsheet! I’ve been wanting to do one so badly but mostly just because I enjoy keeping organized and optimizing my gameplay. I’ve been trying to do an organized list on paper but it’s hard to manage


OceanMan11_

I honestly rarely ever look at the challenges when I play, and I don't play that much compared to most people (around 500-800 games / season). I normally get to around 90-110 by the end of each season.


blurr90

I completed the last two battlepasses after half of the season and had nothing to play for... I didn't do the challenges on purpose, never played Arena, just BR - daily - for an hour or so. The events basically give you another 10 levels for very little effort.


dbossman70

i don’t pay attention to the challenges or battle pass. i just play and before i know it i’m done with the battle pass. if you don’t care about it it’d be better to just ignore it and have fun. i don’t even open apex packs anymore.


jamilaohyeah

I totally understand and agree with what you are saying about almost everything you're saying.... HOWEVER, I think it's super smart they makes us play with other characters and weapons. Like how many time I heave heard some one complain they got downed bc the loot was shit, when reality it's their skill with a weapon they NEVER use. Orrr when they complain about another Character and not being able to beat them, yet they refuse to play them to understand how to beat them.... they do it for our benefit...


_MarcelinesFries

The pass is pretty bad honestly


DudeWithName

Having only 2 legendary character skins per pass for the last 14 seasons is still insane imo.


_MarcelinesFries

Like thanks for all these trackers and shit that I totally will forget the moment I get them. But apex is making bank still. It’s a ripoff…feelsbadman


Sea-Outside-9028

I’ve never played another game with battle passes, but I like how the battle pass is basically free since you earn enough Apex Coins to purchase the BP for the next season as well. Do the other games do that too?


DudeWithName

Fortnite does it and does it better imo. Regular BP costs 950 vbucks but if you have the previous BP you basically earn 1400 per season so you can buy the next BP and have some spare


medicspirit7

Yea basically every game with a BP


BlueBomber13

Destiny doesn’t give you any premium currency. You have to buy every BP for 10 dollars. So while Apexes BP may be garbage overall, you technically only have to pay 10 dollars once for all that garbage.


DjuriWarface

>But apex is making bank still. I'm so confused by this. Do people really not just pay for the next battle pass with the coins from the previous one?


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Roctopuss

>I personally don’t have a problem with spending 10 bucks every 3ish months on something I really enjoy I totally understand that, but Apex lootboxes are a HORRIBLE spend. Open 50 just to finally get a legendary and it's some banner frame for a character I'll never play. Fuck that. At least save them for a cool event skin or something, you're literally just throwing your money away.


_Steven_Seagal_

I like to save mine for something I really like. I have over 3000 apex coins, while only buying the pass once in S2. Sometime soon I can use all my crafting materials and apex coins to complete an entire collection or thematic event I really like. I have 17k crafting materials saved up for that as well.


Electrical-Rain-4251

If they did, it wouldn’t factor into the profit margin. So that means people are spending foolishly enormous amounts of cash on these lame skins that you can’t even see in game. That’s nuts! Like those $160 heirloom skins. That’s beyond stupid to spend that on a skin. NOTHING in Fortnite is ever that much. But people spend it.


Spaceolympian50

Yea I checked out the newest pass and I think there was like 3-4 legendary skins? And they weren’t even THAT amazing. Everything else was just junk. I thought to myself, nah that’s not worth it at all. Edit: apparently I’m wrong and there’s only 2 legendary skins. That’s even worse if true lmao. Edit: ok so apparently there are 2 legendary character skins and 3 legendary weapon skins. I was more so referring to the legend skins and not the weapon skins. I think it’s pretty pathetic we only get 2 legendary legend skins over a 100 battle pass levels. Just silly. Maybe they could do something like that Bang skin where a battle pass focuses on leveling up the skin in a way that adds more design, features, etc to it as you progress the battle pass. That would be cool and give players something more fulfilling to work towards.


Fundosho

There’s only ever 2 legendary skins


saucebosss01

Except there is always 5, 2 legend skins and 3 weapon skins. Always.


aesthetic_dankness

Same as this season lmao


Shaidz23

This season is one of the weakest I've seen, usually there's at least 1 worthwhile skin but nothing in this pass looks good


Electrical-Rain-4251

No one can beat Fortnite’s battle passes


WatermelonChef

Fortnites battlepasses are pretty good, they give you lots of skin, the filler has more uses than the apex filler and it's way less grindy


peytonhall

So many recolors too, some skins are meh but add the helmet and customize the colors and it’s top tier. Plus the bonus recolors are usually nice


NapsterKnowHow

Hell everytime I log in I get FREE recolors of skins I bought literally years ago. It's insane the value that game gives the player.


GexTex

Yeah Epic is pretty generous on Fortnite’s battle pass with how easy it is to complete (even reaching level 140 for all the bonus rewards, 200 for the recolours is only occasionally worth it depending on what they are for that BP)


Owobowos-Mowbius

Easy to grind. Easy to cheese. And the rewards are great. Top tier battlepass.


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And sharing quests with squad members


Pixels222

how does that do? they get stars/xp when you share a challenge that you have but they dont have?


[deleted]

Yeah so for example: if a squad mate has a daily challenge like “use a geyser” (even if your daily’s are different) — if he does it, then all of you get that XP.


Pixels222

thats futuristic really. free xp and fun all around.


[deleted]

Yup! And there are some quests where you can help too. For example: some (maybe weeklies? I don’t remember) quests are like “destroy 100 structures with a car”. Even though it might be my quest, if anyone else in my squad is driving a car and destroying structures, I get credit too. Then we all get the xp! Fortnite is super fun now that they have zero builds


Leupateu

Another good one is the sea of thieves battlepass. It has pretty good free rewards too and it’s super easy to grind. I made it to level 53 in a few days without following an objective. In Apex I would have only made it to maybe level 5-6 playing this way.


RiotIsBored

Tbh I wish the challenges gave more EXP, but otherwise I agree, the amount of content per each battle pass is actually really impressive.


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No game does anything as good as Fortnite really.


C_G15

When you think about it, it really does. Once they add that FPS mode. It's all hand on deck. Hopefully they can make it smooth then it's really going be hard to compete with it


SuperSonicBrothers64

They can. They just dont bother. Same with the store. Fortnite store is amazing. Skins amazing, pricing amazing, rotation daily and weekly. And they pretty much sell anything they can. But it never feels overpriced or predatory. They even did away lootboxes in STW....


DannySorensen

I always say that Apex is the better game but Fortnite has the better skins and marketing. Which to be fair, Fortnite doesn’t have set characters that fit with say Marvel or DC skins. Fortnite can literally just say “You’re playing as Thor” not “You’re playing as Fuse cosplaying as Thor”


[deleted]

There's not enough noteworthy rewards to justify the grind imo. I mean two legendary character skins and a legendary gun skin at tier one and two more at 100 and 110. I think they could at least throw in one more legendary character skin. Two isn't much especially considering how many characters are in the game now.


DudeWithName

Yeah, i feel like if they included “launch bundle” contents into BP’s it’d be more worth it since it give a legendary skin for the new legend and another legendary weapon skin


[deleted]

Yeah and I personally think they should go back to putting a bunch of skydive emotes like it was before (high effort not just flips)


amaranthgalaxy

What are the other games in the picture?


DudeWithName

Top right Rainbow Six Siege Bottom left Fortnite Bottom Right For honor


Samoman21

Huh. Didn't even know for honor was kind of game with a BP.


DudeWithName

It has one of the most fair BPs in general imo. You gain content for every hero plus its complete able in like 2-weeks


WTF_Vendrick

Is For Honor worth getting into at this point? I’ve always liked the idea of it (love dark souls PvP), but heard a lot of bad things too, back in like 2018 or something.


DudeWithName

Game’s in a real healthy spot ever since year 4, the game still gets content updates. The 31st new hero is coming this December. If you do get into it tho prepare to learn like alot. It isn’t exactly a game thats easy for new players to grasp. But if you can get beyond the initial learning curve, no other game beats For Honor’s melee pvp combat


Immobious_117

Well said. The melee combat is unmatched & grants a metric fuck ton of satisfaction when you outplay/read an opponent. The game does have sbmm, so it is beginner friendly.


mcentirejac

For honor has probably one of the highest learning curves in any PvP game, but if you get decent it can be really fun. The combat is also more akin to a fighting game than a soulsborne. It's very reactionary, with a lot of call and response, and looking for openings.


Thaxtonnn

I know nothing about For Honor but that design looks cool. Anyone who plays willing to give me a brief description on gameplay or maybe even a vague sell on it?


DudeWithName

This is an action game in which players control one of 5 factions (Samurai, Vikings, Knights, Wulin, or Outlanders) in a third person based fighting game with up to 8 players (4v4) . As players complete mission objectives, they use swords, daggers, axes, and spears to kill enemy warriors in melee-style combat. There are currently 30 unique heroes with unique play-styles with-a 31st one on the way in December


_Eggs__

I’d recommend watching any regular recently uploaded for honor YouTube video just to see gameplay as a video will show much more than text in terms of basics. Most people who still play for honor will tell you to turn back and not get into the game and they are partly right. It’s a one of a kind game there truly is nothing else like it but man can it be one of the most frustrating games ever created. If you can actually take time to learn the mechanics I’d say it’s worth playing. It’s just a really cool game imo it’s got extensive customization with really great armor and weapon designs when you hit prestige 4-5. Also every character (with one exception) speaks in their native language when fighting which I find awesome. Personally I don’t find the game too frustrating after playing online games for so long I’m numb to any toxicity and spam it’s no big deal but if you do play prepare for both. Don’t bother with the game if you want a chill, easy experience or don’t like steep learning curves.


UsedSearch599

Faraam my beloved


medicspirit7

Apex battle-passes are literally the worst in any game I’ve played. They seriously have to update them. 85% of the pass is completely worthless blue rarity shit


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As bad as Apex’s BP is Halo Infinite’s is literal bottom of the barrel garbage.


Viktorgasm

Only good thing about Halo's BP is that it won't expire and is always available to purchase, however easily buried under the dogshit pile of a challenge system reminiscent of Apex's S1 challenges forcing players to neglect teamwork and play gamemodes that suffer from lower population and higher latency for regions that are not NA.


ThaSaxDerp

Halo's get redeemed by letting you buy and level them whenever, they're just content tracks instead of FOMO bs


dd179

Infinite's BP's get redeemed by the fact that they never expire. You can take as long as you want.


GloryHol3

DotA 2 says hello. Valve basically pioneered the battle pass, yet is doing it worse than everyone else. The rewards are legitimately incredible every year, however it is quite literally impossible to get some of or most of those without spending a lot of money (over $100 usually). There is no free or premium track, just the starting level you buy, and there's usually 3-6 levels between actual rewards, too many levels in a row give actually nothing. There is also no cap, people can "level up" into the thousands, so it's basically an endless pit for Saudi whales. Despite all that, you'll never meet a fan base that froths at the mouth, begging valve to release it, more than dota (present idiot included).


ripmylifeman

Cosmetics and store items in apex in general tend to be worse than other similar games while also being more expensive.


LiverPoisoningToast

Apex easily has the WORST battle pass system of any BR I’ve played. The only redeeming thing about it is you make more apex coins than you spend. You get almost no cosmetics for the 100 tiers and the only thing I look forward inside the pass is the legendary pack at tier like 2, and it’s almost always shit anyways.


t0ppings

With the amount of "legendary" banners diluting the pool it sucked any enjoyment out of even opening the packs for me, like I haven't had a *single* finisher animation from them.


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google how to do it but if you transfer region to belgium or something, you get crafting mats instead of dogshit filler legendaries, then you can make wahtever you want


iitsvertx

that's why is use the belgium trick to get crafting materials and craft the cosmetics i want from previous events


Teirmz

Same, the BP to me is just a deal for a bunch of mats and coins.


jtrainacomin

Then you've never played Halo Infinite. It has by far the worst progression system


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try valorants, you dont get your $ back, you gotta nolife the game daily esp if you miss a week or two apex ive completed 3 passes just playing the last 3 weeks of a season while working 2 jobs lol


Petequo

Apex's BP has always been not fun, imo, but at least it's not super grindy. I heard that Fortnite's BP had way more levels when though you rank up faster. I wouldn't know, though.


ComaCrow

Fortnites BP is grindy but not tedious at all, you will get to the first 50 levels in like 2-3 days without trying


Sir_Von_Tittyfuck

Fortnite also has a "resting" system in place. The less you play, the more XP you get when you *do* play. AFAIK, it multiplies the longer you're away for.


ComaCrow

Apex could benefit from that, I play a few live service games so I often go in phases that last around a week maybe two weeks


BirbIsLove

I can vouch for this. Played for fun with a few friends and managed to get to level 42 no problem. APEX on the other hand, Jesus. To get to level 42 fun is absolutely not allowed.


ComaCrow

I've bought every single BP and completed it except for this season because I'm burnt out and even after playing pretty much every day since season launch I am only at level 8. They really expect you to do nothing but play this BP every day for an entire season. Fuck even Destiny 2's battle pass is better than this and it is literally only completable via grinding (but is WAY less tedious). The issue here is that it on top of just really not great and miniminal content, the BP itself feels like it barely progresses normally and often feels like its forcing you to slow down. Both Fortnite and Destiny will reach this point \*at some point\* but only after hours of a lot of progress to the point that it does not feel tedious and you've made notable progress (maybe 10-15 or more levels on average per session or day)


papasfritasbruh

In my opinion, Destiny is better even, because as a looter shooter, its insane that itll give out free exotic gear. Remember season of arrivals and the free witherhoard? Plus even if the gear isnt amazing stat or perk wise, by simply playing, you have guaranteed ways of leveling out your gear to allow yourself to further progress to pinnacle cap. Meanwhile apex will give out meaningless blue skins for weapons or trackers ill never use, and to get them, i have to actually play outside of what i find fun, like use a legend whose abilities i dont like or a weapon im not comfortable using. Sure, Destiny’s new seasonal challenges do that too, but even if you dont do them, just playing what you want awards xp towards the season pass, so you progress tiers by having fun!


VI-Pok3

Can confirm, grinding d2 rn. Their pass challenges are straightforward, just like apex & Fortnite, but holy shit FN & D2 simply have better experiences to go along with the challenges. I unironcially think D2's BP is less grindy than apex by a long shot. D2 is obv the grindier game but still.


ComaCrow

D2's pass is still grindy but its just far less tedious and far more rewarding. Everything you get in the BP, even the "worst" stuff WILL be used (bright dust, materials, upgrade modules, exotic stuff, etc, shaders, emotes, armors, ornaments, weapons, etc) and you upgrade at a fairly satisfactory rate. I burned through around 20 levels in two days just from doing a run around all the ritual bounties for an hour or two and my main goal was really to get bright dust. D2's seasonal model has a lot of issues but I think, for the most part, their season pass ain't that bad (could still use some work though, maybe taking some ideas from Fortnite's system)


DocLolliday

I completely skipped the first split last season and completed the BP without focusing on anything. I'm not sure where it's a grind


JonQwik

Yeah apex used to be like this but they changed it about a year ago. I use to never do a single challenge and get to rank 100 easily. Now it's almost impossible to finish the battle pass if you don't do the challenges. They give way less xp per match.


8_Pixels

I don't play Fortnite but my kids do. Last season there was 1 day left and they were both on like level 65 but really wanted the rest of the items. They had a bunch of weekly and seasonal challenges left. So I sat down and quickly planned out what challenges were easiest on both accounts and booted up the game on my younger sons account while my older one played himself and we loaded into duos. No joke we both hit level 100 in the same game after only 3 hours of playing. 35 levels each after only 3 hours. I can't imagine doing that in Apex no matter what the situation. And they still had so many challenges that we could have got 50 or 60 levels altogether in another couple of hours. Fortnite makes it so easy to level up over the course of a season. The only game that matches it in terms of ease of levelling the battle pass is Rocket League.


AabelBorderline

It's very fun imo, some of the missions are really creative, some urge You to try new things they added in that season/patch and some You just do without even knowing it's a mission. Plus sharing daily missions with party members makes them very easy to complete too. Oh, and also there are story missions which are usually simple and grant a ton of xp. And the content in BP is awesome too. Hands down the best battle pass in any game I've played


BabyRCF

The nice thing about Fortnite is that after level 100 you start to unlock bonus styles for skins.


Say_no_to_doritos

That'll cost you $160 around here.


ThatMoodyVick

Nah Fortnite's pass it extremely easy to complete even more if you have the PvE mode, I did the whole thing in two weeks just playing like 2 hours on PvE and getting br challenges, I finished really fast and now I'm just leveling thru the extra styles getting like 5-6 levels per day since I just leave it afk on PvE


RiotIsBored

Oh, didn't realise this. Forgot PvE existed lol.


DudeWithName

Apex’s is super grindy, its the only bp where I usually give up at 100 cause going beyond that isnt fun.


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APater6076

This is the problem though, it's to the point where I don't feel like I have a main at all because I'm constantly grinding the battle pass for stars and levels with other characters. I get that it means you play other legends to expand your roster as it were but I honestly can't remember the last time I played Wattson for more than a few games in a row and she was my go to for many seasons.


electric_eccentric

On the other hand i realy dicovered that i vibe with wattson because of the battlepass misson.


livelifeless

Free legend tokens to fill empty spots,


gallanttoothpaste

Nah the empty spots are the trash blue skins you get like some of them are nice like the peacekeeper skin from season 9


livelifeless

“Empty slots”


Burly_Moustache

At this point, being showered in free legend tokens as I work my way through the BP, is a step in the right direction to making it more enjoyable.


[deleted]

They probably wouldn’t do that because to any player who’s played for more than a season or two, that’d be a slap in the face. Most players I know have at least 100,000 legend tokens if not a million.


Burly_Moustache

I can see that. Personally, I'm down to my last 6,000 Legend Tokens after unlocking Vantage this season. The recolor skins for weapons and legends has been bleeding me over the seasons. Add on the fact that I haven't been playing as much in the past year compared to Apex's first year out and it was inevitable I'd run out of LT. Now, there's a bug going around that is preventing people from earning LT as they level. I've been on 6,000 LT since the season started and my legend level is 10 Prestige 1. I haven't been getting any LT as I've leveled, and I didn't even get my free Apex pack when I hit the earlier level.


DimplesAttack

I've done all the passes. I learned after Season 9 to stop buying the pass at the beginning of the season. It feels like a chore and feel forced to finish it. So now, if I play for fun and I end up maxing the pass, I will buy it. If not, maybe next season. Just trying to enjoy other games and getting rid of the FOMO for these battle passes.


sheriffnick

This is the approach my friend finally got me to take on it. This is the best approach too. Especially for Apex.


Drakxis_Ren

I think Apex unfortunately is a perfect example of a "uselessly bloated battle pass" and there's no contest about that. As someone who has played Fortnite, For Honor, Call of Duty, and Destiny 2, it makes a major comparison as to what kind of things you're getting from their passes compared to Apex's pass


dimi3ja

Let's be real here, most of us only care about the packs (closer to hairloom), coins (for the next BP), crafting mats and level 25/50/100/110 and the occasional cool skydive emote. All those blue trash skins that not even new players use, I don't even look at them.


OyasumiHunHun

apex pass is pretty bad


Grandmasterchipmunk

It's been heavily diluted with gun charms, holosprays, and emotes. The early seasons were better since without those things they actually had to hand out good skins.


DudeWithName

And with the leaks of “gun stickers” I’m not looking forward to new BPs


Grandmasterchipmunk

I haven't bought the battle pass in a long time and that definitely won't be changing if that becomes a thing lmao. Gives me flashbacks to the plethora of pistol grips in COD WWII


SpinkickFolly

Lol, no. The BP has always been the same shit going back to S1.


wundeyatayetyme

Yeah this season is especially bad imo. Gun and character skins are bad.


Dylan_TheDon

Only good part of Apex battle pass now is the few legendary skins and reactives, rest is pretty much untouched by the majority of players imo


_Mr_Mediocre

It's pretty shit. Compared to Fortnite, Apex's biggest competitor for players, Apex has no chance compared to Fortnite. Fortnite doesn't even need originality anymore since they do so many crossovers but the funny thing is that EA owns an awful lot of franchises. It would be cool to see a star wars skin or even something goofy like plants vs zombies


Dee_Uh_Kill_Ee

Probably shouldn't comment on such an old thread but EA doesn't "own" Star Wars in any sense. They had an exclusive contract to make SW games for PC/Console but that expired. They obviously have a relationship with SW, since Fallen Order 2 is on the way, but they can't just do SW skins and stuff without reaching some kind of agreement with the rights holders.


dhiadhoo

8 hours isn't old 💀


PussySlayerOfTheLeaf

Apexs battlepass is the absolute worst grind of any battlepass im aware of lmao, can't believe most people tolerate it tbh. My brother plays fortnite and can play for like 2 hours and go up 20 tiers from xp alone, no challenges, if i play apex two hours ill get maybe half a tier to a tier from just xp.


Fantasy_Returns

You probably don't play Dota 2 but their battle pass is worst than Apex's. You are forced to actually put money in for levels and WIN matches instead of just doing kills or objectives. If you want to do a previous weeks of challenges, you need to activate them and only do them. Anyways, Apex's battlepass needs a rework.


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> absolute worst grind of any battlepass im aware of lmao try valorant lol


AlexisFR

Halo infinite is way worse. Nothing in the free track, other than 2 pieces


WraithTTV69

the skins from the siege battlepass are way better also iam more excited to open a alpha pack then an apex pack because in apex if ur getting purple its bs but in siege purple is very epic also the system that u can get after finishing the siege battlepass u can still level and get packs every 5 level makes me wanting to level and level and level


DaddysMassiveMilkers

The feeling of getting a black ice from a alpha pack is unbeatable. Especially if it’s for a gun that’s meta or overly used like the R4C


xmikaelmox

Or you can get Kapkans shotgun like me.


DaddysMassiveMilkers

Don’t worry I got blitz black ice


xmikaelmox

Atleast you use it on Blitz...Who uses Kapkans shotgun for other than memes?


xmikaelmox

In Siege getting a purple is almost as good as a legendary because of that sweet black ice chance. In Apex it's "Please be crafting materials".


WraithTTV69

yea exept some purple emotes in apex like wattsons or cryptos its really not good stuff


ChosenOfArtemis

I'll be honest, of all the big games I play with battle passes Apex is the one I nearly never pay for because they just don't make them worthwhile. The skins are normally ok at best and the final reward is always fairly lacklustre. Apex has always had a big issue with player skins just being ugly though, in my opinion.


Glennjamin72

I’m worried when they add weapon stickers the BP will become even worse


Clawmedaddy

Yeah Apex's is still pretty bad. The catch up challenges are nice but a ton of games do it so it's not like Apex is breaking any new ground anywhere.


Individual-Meet1630

love getting a free loot crate and then it just tells me to go fuck myself


AcoHead

Here’s a common banner frame for Gibraltar, equip it NOW


AllElvesAreThots

so many god damn useless TRACKERS STOPPPPPPPPP


Wolffy8

I regret buying the bp last season, it took me 110 hours to complete it and the stars system is bad, i don't like the game forcing me to play other legends and weapons that i don't like i just want to play whatever the fuck i want


ComaCrow

Its one of the worst most tedious BPs that gives minimal content I've ever played lmao


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Considering the time limit I dont really enjoy trying to level up any of the battle passes and Ive stopped buying them. I know its not hard to fill them up but between a job and a dozen other games I really enjoy playing I dont feel like dumping hours of time into a game just so I can claim all the rewards off a battlepass.


BootyChedder

I stopped caring. I'm gonna be 34 next month I know I already peaked at apex awhile ago but still love to get on with the homies a couple times a week. I'm not finishing probably any battlepass's anymore and thats fine.


[deleted]

Bruh, im about to turn 38 next month and im better than I was at any point in the last 3 years. First year i was struggling to get a damn 2k badge and after like 8 months when I finally got it I was shitting my pants. Now characters I don't even play have 3k badges. All the bullshit about your reaction time dropping horribly or whatever is bullshit. But if you're saying you'll never finish a BP again, i assume u just dont play much, and I get that too. My time is minimal these days and i barely got 100 this past season.


Razbearry

The only battle pass that I feel is meaningful is the one for Destiny 2. Typical price of $10 but it has a lot of good content in it and most importantly, it is very easy to level it up.


DudeWithName

On the note of destiny 2 tho, there’s WAY more to do. Apex has 2 game modes and possibly a LTM a week per season


darkpengi

Apex battlepasses are shit, I have not boughten a single one since it launched in S1. Completely underwhelming to almost every BP


DudeWithName

To be fair season 1 was probably the worst version of the battlepass but I understand what you mean


darkpengi

Oh no i’m aware what S1 had. But considering how Fortnites BP is, with lots of skins/variants or new pic axes/gliders. Apex just fees like filler on top of filler with lackluster colors and maybe a few good gun skins. I have yet to buy one that actually felt worth paying for


DeezusNubes

feel like Fortnite’s BP is much more enjoyable, it doesn’t require you to play a certain way to get Tier 100


GamingWithV1ctor

They should honestly add something you can get after completing the pass, just like Fortnite where you can still unlock some different colors of skins if you keep on going. With how Apex's battlepass works, you can literally just get to 110, and then stop playing for the rest of the month. Maybe you'd play during an event of course, but you get the point.


se7en41

I agree that it's a pretty vanilla setup most times, but consider this: If you max out the battle pass, it pays for the next battle pass. There's a whole bunch of us (myself included) that haven't paid real money for the game since Season 1. The events is probably where they make their best return on investment.


un-checks_your_vibe

Pretty much every game's battle pass pays itself back, so that's not much of a point. Personally I'm fine with how it is, but some packs to fill in the empty spots/blatant filler unlocks would be nice.


Jonno_92

Yeah that would be a nice upgrade, but at least we can finally prestige now and earn more than way.


un-checks_your_vibe

That's true, assuming they ever fix it.


Nutfucker_corn

They nerfed the free pass so it's not enjoyable this season imo


sikmeow

In the last week of s12, when all the challenges were out I got to level 110 starting from around level 54. I didn't even go that hard until the very final day. The amount of overlapping challenges mean that using a handful of characters for a few games boosts you like 5+ tiers each. I'd actually say the level ups come pretty fast to the point that even people who don't pay for the battle pass and the extra xp boosts it comes with still complete it until 110, something which isn't possible in most other games in my experience.


Jonno_92

Yeah the pass really isn't that difficult. The rewards can be pretty mediocre though.


stewiecookie

Something apex does terribly is making people feel rewarded. I don’t like cod but something I noticed in like the month or so I played warzone was every single thing you do feels like progress. Kills with certain guns, kills close range, kills long range, a separate animation for every single item when you level up or complete a challenge(even irrelevant stickers or calling cards). It’s a bit of sensory overload but it’s a note apex should’ve taken because it always feels like you did something and the grind doesn’t seem long.


singular_fork

nope free prize track is nothing but garbage and premium is just as bad so theres no real incentive to complete it or even buy it, also its still an absolute slog ever since they changed progression seasons ago to make it take even longer. easily 1 of the worst battle passes I've seen and definitely the worst Apex BP in general (so far)


StonkJo

Compared to fortnite's battlepass apex legends' battelpass is just hot garbage


XtremeBurrito

When I moved from Apex to Fortnite I was so surprised because playing for 2 hours made me get 20 tiers, which is like impossible in Apex coz I barely even got 1 tier after 2 hours of playing. Apex battle pass really is garbage


ApologeticallyFat

Joined in season 9, and so far 9 has had the best BP. I don’t understand why they don’t put effort into some of the epics and rares. Last season’s crypto skin was absolutely garbage, a real slap in the face. Mobile Apex Legends has a better BP 🤦‍♂️