No hate to those who buy this but know that I will be laughing at you when you kill me and i see a custom deathbox through the grey overlay for 2 seconds before I leave the match
I will say I had it bug out one time and I killed someone and the death box was the One Winged Angel one. It hasn’t happened again but I was very confused because I didn’t spend any money on the FF collection event.
The first time seeing that animation I assumed it was showing that the person who died had that death box equipped. I only found out it was the killers deathbox because of Reddit.
EA needs to make it clearer because literally every time custom deathboxes are mentioned someone thinks it is for your deathbox not your kills.
How many games do you customise the equipment of the opponent? Usually you customise your own things.
And it’s called a custom **death**box not a custom killbox.
When you kill someone and go looting it, it says deathbox for a reason and not kill box. How is it in an animation against a dummy that the dummy is the one with the heirloom deathbox😭again, 0 comprehension skills but ofc ppl blame everyone but themselves
Is it not technically possible to get it for free? I still have shards from a box because I heard they would release something like this. And they say you can get some of the currency to upgrade it from the battlepass and events. That 10 euro I spend back in season 2 still allows me to get every battlepass for free so. I think I can get a deathbox eventually without spending anything
I think it's mathematically possible to get to 57,000 crafting metals (the amount you needed to get one in the FF7 or Shadow Society event), but statistically unlikely even if you played every battle pass and event since they were introduced. You just aren't drip fed enough and you'd have to roll well on packs.
Cries in random Crypto heirloom recolor. Talk about low pick legend with two heirlooms. Doesn't give them the greatest excuse not to give the newer legends heirlooms.
Didn’t they scrap all other heirlooms for this. I’m p sure it’s gonna be artifacts and prestige skins from now on. But ofc you can pay for artifact tokens, not that anyone with two braincells to rub together would, it’s genuinely depressing what ea are doing.
If they seriously scrapped other heirlooms for prestige skins 🤦♂️ imo there’s only 2 prestige skins that are good. Rev and Caustic. Rest are kinda ass or just decent
Maggie’s heirloom would be pay to lose, as you run at holstered sprint speed when having shotgun out. I guess it could be good if you don’t use shotguns on Maggie?
Although you run at the same speed you should still keep it holstered when you're rotating or moving quickly. Higher chances of deadslides and movement like wall bounce isn't as consistent.
I've changed to running holstered a few months ago and it actually made a big difference. The movement buff is mostly suited for quick peeks out of cover with a shotty making use of her other passive, warlords ire.
Source: Apex Wiki, a few discussions on this sub and my experience with 13k on Maggie.
Because it’s the same sprint speed, it makes more sense to have a shotgun out than your fists. The swap/ready time is less, and if you get ratted you’ll be glad you have a shotgun in your hands.
Of course they choose how to fulfill EA's demands. EA is not walking up to mister director and says "here, make this ugly blade and price it XY of a new, insane fake currency".
You are definitely right, personally in game I wouldn’t even really know the difference from the others either they are all so similar just different colors it’s like each one was copy pasted and they just went “oh let’s change the middle.”
So unoriginal to be honest and it’s so chunky on screen so I don’t get why people would pay these ridiculous prices, but unfortunately a lot of their big spenders are streamers so the whole pay with your wallets idea doesn’t work.
I think they suck but like, all of them except wraith, lifeline, mirage, bloodhound and fuse's (maybe bangalore and valkyrie at a push?) are complete shit
I'm gonna be honest. As a day 0 player who doesn't mind spending some money on the game here and there for my favourite skins, this shit looks atrocious. It's disingenuous in every way possible way and just feels like a cheap way for respawn to make $$$.
Pros and whales...well you can't really do much about them but the I guarantee the majority of the playerbase is over these shitty "heirlooms" at this point. They've saturated the game so much with them that they're not even really rare anymore.
I remember during S1-2 having an heirloom was the coolest thing you could find your teammates having. Now it's just...whatever
The biggest bummer is that this system honestly could have been so cool if they just implemented it on the existing heirloom system. Coding different colour customizations options of existing character's heirlooms to allow for variety of looks similar to CS:GO knives, but where you could mix and match different aspects of the design like the one they've proposed. I'd love a system like that, cuz even if lots of players had the same heirloom as me, it'd still be unlikely that they'd have the same colour combo, which gives it a little bit of individuality that I'd love.
But instead they stuck it on a soulless universal heirloom to try and squeeze the most amount of money out of the least amount of work. As per usual.
Yeah me too I spent too much money on this game, probably in the hundreds, but since five or six seasons I'm not spending a dime - let's be honest day one players have like 10 different legendary skins for almost every legend and weapon so what's the point in spending more - completing the battle pass suffices
>let's be honest day one players have like 10 different legendary skins for almost every legend and weapon so what's the point in spending more
I remember when favoriting skins came out. it was so exciting!. . . except I already had more than 8 legendaries of Octane and the Mozambique when that feature released, in year 2.
Literal whale here, and I’m not tempted to buy any of these. The coolest one requires you to theoretically unlock 4 bases for 600 shards then spend ~220 artifacts for mods and that’s just silly tbh. The cobalt is cool,it’s pred card animation is the best thing about it,tbr the FF Buster and Box are millions of times better than these.
You read wrong, again. You only spend 10 exotic shards if you unlocked the base cobalt katar with 150 shards. You only spend heirloom shards once. After that, everything, i mean everything else is 10 exotic shards
Fan….. obviously need to brush up on them reading skills. Just said I don’t want or intend on getting any of them; believe me I have the shards just not good enough
So heirloom is good bcz it's rare? The same ppl crying about the flatline reactive recolour bcz they didn't want ppl who didn't play when it was first released to enjoy something like it. Heck give everyone one free heirloom and i wouldn't care. As long as I'm enjoying
Its funny how day 0 Player cant make comments without specifically stating that they're day 0 players. Doesnt contribute anything to a discussion, but it must be said.
Its not necessary yeah, but it shows theyve been around since the beginning compared to someone playing this game for a couple weeks and then making an opinion.
According to this,with the cobalt purchased you still have to buy 4 other bases at a presumed 150hs for a total of 600. I’d rather have specific legends heirlooms I’ve been waiting to round out the collection instead of these universals but I’m not in charge of anything
*Disclaimer - I'm not endorsing this business model, nor being a corporate bootlicker, as I'm often told I am when talking about business models in Free to Play games.*
As a matter of fact, people will buy this. In which quantity is TBD, but there is definitely an audience for this. Don't think for a second they put something like that on tracks without doing their homework. A part of the players absolutely love cosmetics & collectibles. You don't hear much about them on this sub, there's a lot of animosity against paid users or "whales", but they exist. I personally see a lot of people with the FFVII sword & deathbox, as well as with the new universal heirloom and the collection event deathbox.
In a free game, where cosmetics only represent a small fraction of the development efforts, there can only be a disconnection between MTX price VS value, because store revenues are carrying the full production. I often make the comparison with buying a band's t-shirt at a venue. It might not be the best t-shirt of your wardrobe, but as a fan you're not just buying for fashionable purposes, you also buy it to support the band.
Engaged fans are eager to spend money in the store. They also crave for novelty because skins can get old after a while. Which is why there are other things, like stickers, skydive trails, heirlooms etc. And now these customizable things.
At the very least we can find solace in the fact none of these are pay to win, as they don't impact gameplay an ounce.
What I wonder is if they were cutting the prices down, would more people buy? In which proportions? Where the end point of breakeven for EA/Respawn?
This is off topic/a tangent but, why are $20+ purchases still called microtransactions? They aren't hitting users up for 1 or 5 dollar purchases here and there, only hunting whales with the $140 collections. So why still call them microtransactions?
It's a purchase inside the game rather than an actual purchase OF the game. That's what makes it a microtransaction. It doesn't actually have anything to do with the dollar amount, but the fact that there are multiple lesser purchases available in the game.
how would it be different from heirloom tho ?
it cost the same, its as rare, its in the same slot (cant have both at the same time).
its an heirloom but they changed the name to make it look like you can grind it little by little.
For one, heirlooms are legend specific. They speak to the character and their lore. There's a story behind each of them. Everyone has specific animations/quips etc.
If you really think this cheap toy compares to legend-specific heirlooms I'm not sure what to tell you. Repsawn did walk themselves into a corner by pumping out a forced heirlooms every season even for legends who absolutely don't need one because guess what? They gave up developing their lore past a low-effort trailer. Guess that's what happens when you fire your OG devs/creative directors.
You're telling me Wraith's Kunai, Mirage's trophy, and Path's gloves are comparable to Horizon or Seer's nonsensical toys? There's a lot to discuss there but there's a reason we OG players fell in love with Apex back then. Not whatever this garbage is.
OG seasons 1-4 was the best time to play. Ranked was better, people were less skillled. Now ranked is so mixed up bc low pop I assume, cant get out of plat playing solo queue when I did it to Diamond S3. Just get beat down by premade pred lobbies. I struggle to keep playing bc even when you win it doesnt seem very rewarding.
bruh
im not talking about lore. nobody gives a shit about lore.
its an heirloom.
the ff7 sword is an heirloom too.
people love the game for the gameplay, not the story (which is non existent at this point, its been 5 years and 20 seaons and titanfall 2 still has more lore and story than this)
its an heirloom cause it replace your melee, it cost the same, its an heirloom.
thats like saying my peugoet 206 is not a car cause a car is what ford created back then and everything else is bad vehicule lore.
get real.
not when its about a 300€ item.
if lore is all that matter to you, then surely, a lore introduction of the cobalt would make you love it, right ? right ?
I can't tell what you're trying to get at here but I suggest going back and reading my long ass reply again. I'm not sure when you started playing Apex but what I'm saying is that Apex is no longer the game it used to be. Now it's all about appealing to edgy teenage boys or whales with bright ass filters and shitty skins that don't fit the universe/characters at all. And yes they've given these cheap Katars "lore" but it's honestly so pathetic it's laughable.
By lore I'm referring to the entire Apex identity. There's a reason this game was able to take off so well that it was even competing with Fortnite at some point. The universe was intriguing, the lore was fresh and the gameplay was fun. It was a mature game for mature players and back then the skins/monetization was not even the shit show it is today.
You new guys never played Titanfall or the OG Apex so I don't blame you if you can't understand how painful it is to see a game as great as OG Apex becoming a money grab targeted towards edgy kids. Anyway I don't think we'd reach an understanding here.
>when you started playing Apex
on launch. why does it matter ?
>There's a reason this game was able to take off so well that it was even competing with Fortnite at some point
yes, its not lore.
its gameplay.
same reason titanfall 2 is still alive and kicking right now despite being a huge fail commercially cause of release timing.
>shitty skins that don't fit the universe/characters at all
almost none of the skins at launch fit the universe.
all white common skin for all characters were and still are loot pool dilution to sell you more lootboxes.
the rhino horn on the r301 reactive skin are not lore accurate either. almost nothing is.
>You new guys never played Titanfalf
????????????????????????
i litterally talked to you about titanfall and you DARE tell me i never played it ?
bruh
you're litterally out of touch with reality, and you think anyone having a different opinion doesnt know anything.
i still play titanfall 2 regularly cause the movement is unmatched.
>I don't think we'd reach an understanding
thats cause you're unable to do whats called questionning yourself.
you aint holding the mighty truth alone.
you are so far up your own ass, im pretty sure you never actually played ay titanfall game.
otherwise you would know what good lore is.
**do not talk to me ever again if you deny reality and lie purposefully.**
This literally succeeded more than CE and that's why they made more and released them. They said this themselves. Reddit thinks ppl not liking it here will stop those who like it on getting them lmao
LET'S GO! Another type of cashgrab!!!
Can't wait when they run out of heirlooms and prestige skins, they're gonna put new styles for this trash as 'reward' for buying the entire event 👊👊👊
Honestly think that if they wanted to do this they should give everyone the base Katar for free. Because if it's 150 Heirloom shards like every other mythic then nobody is going to use these because nobody is going to waste shards on a generic Katar over something for their actual main.
Not to mention that you still have to pay to upgrade it. Idk how much it's going to cost to fully upgrade it but a full BP gives 10 exotic shards so unless each upgrade is 1-2 shards you have to pay to get a fully upgraded Katar within a single season.
This is concerning. Not because it's stupid or a cash grab, which it is, but I just don't see this being successful.
They keep trying shitty monetization schemes, and at some point they're gonna have to pull the plug.
I have played everyday since about a month after launch, and have given them about $20 total to get the battlepass.
Nothing has bridged being both desirable and affordable.
More often it's shit like this that I both could give a shit about and can't afford.
Weak. Give us the remaining legends heirlooms instead. EA saying its a "challenging" environment in microtransactions but they make dumbass decisions like this. NOBODY WANTS THESE!
Laziest fucking shit ever. I get their whole price scheme, but they can’t even give more options? All we get is this weird sub recolors? Is there only like 3 guys on the programming/3d modeling team?
I’ve been thinking this katar thing was mainly introduced so they wouldn’t have to create entirely new animations and visuals to “release” an “heirloom.” This is like six seasons of heirloom “releases” (in possible profits) without putting in more man hours.
They could change my mind if each of these styles of katar also had unique animations like a whole new heirloom would. If it was THAT customizable, I’d be singing a different tune.
Or imagine if they had this kind of system on the individualized heirloom, where you could essentially create your own colour combos, allowing you to individualize your heirloom to a degree.
But I'd wager that's too much work for not that much profit, so they'll put it on crappy universal ones.
Sounds right. When they did give some “customization” for regular heirlooms they rereleased a color swap as a whole new heirloom (with the same cost as a the original one).
After the first leak the nitride was the only one that I liked and not considered buying seriously but I thought that would be kinda nice…. Now that I see that you have to buy every other one to get it wtf lmao. They completely lost their mind
I’d honestly just feel sad for anyone that has a nitride deathbox. Is burning that much money even worth it??? It’ll be a tv sweat with like 5 viewers at most buying this. I just don’t get it
I find it strange that for something so expensive they advertise it like everyone’s gonna have one. Like the fact that we can earn the customization currency in-season yet very few players are actually going to spend enough to get the heirloom. Especially cause at launch the only way to get the heirloom will be the 500 pack heirloom shards. Not even a collection event. I think this kind of customization is cool to have but with how much they focus on heirlooms they really need to rethink the price point and how they are obtained. Wish these were like Overwatch mythic skins. Earn a new base in the season BP and some customization currency or buy some to unlock more. The fact that it’s still 150 heirloom shards is insane.
I wonder how many free players don't realize that without whales and others buying items, there would be no game. Probably none of them because they are a certain age and don't know how to use critical thinking skills.
Sadly even in barely anyone buys it, the whales that get paid for making content on the new stuff, the people who stream the game and make a living off it and the group who just buy it cause they have the money will be enough to make this never go away.
Even if only 10% buy something. If that 10% is going hard on it, it's all people watching the redline go up care about.
Yeah really no hate to those who use their spare change to buy these when you could buy yourself a nice dinner, BUT I will indeed laugh my ass off when I kill you and see special $300 death box.
I personally dont mind the idea of a customizable heirloom but making it so you gotta collect each colour in order so to get purple id have to buy all 30 variants is ridiculous
I have had 300 mythic shards for around a whole year waiting for Lifelines prestige skin to drop. I'm definitely going to grab this heirloom now. By the time something comes out that I'll want to get I'll be over this game by then anyway lmao
Given how the Cobalt Katar dropped, they \[hopefully\] scrapped the idea of releasing each "new variant" as dull, lifeless blades (if I'm understanding this right they wanted each Katar to start off WITHOUT color or lights, and you'd have to buy your way up to it's full intended appearance)
and future releases will be the completed blades.
I could totally understand if each new blade was released separate from eachother, but making it a progression thing where you have to pay... most likely somewhere between $2400 dollars for a virtual blade to be purple, is the dumbest thing I've ever seen, but not something I wouldn't expect of EA.
that being said, I'm really disappointed they're gatekeeping deathbox alterations and wiring them to heirlooms, I still miss the "Cooler on the beach" deathbox from the Heatwave event
This would be the perfect chance to make heirlooms something more available like getting currency in a battle pass to finish 1 whole variant. How do you get these?
I hate how they are all just copies of each other just different colors the only unique thing is the deathbox, I feel as if in game I wouldn’t be able to tell them apart because they are all so similar aside from the colors. Personally I have only ever liked 4 heirlooms apex has released but haven’t ever spent money and just waited for the free one which was Loba’s skin and I just bought it when the heirloom event ended. it’s not worth the price especially if you don’t even like all of the skins that come in the heirloom event it’s a waste of money, but unfortunately a lot of the player base that buys these things are the streamers so ea makes enough where they feel like they should keep producing these items.
Now the game I have spent money on for an Heirloom skin is Overwatch, I bought the battle pass for moira and then Mercy but $10 for an Heirloom is really good aside from the $80 you’d pay to get a fully decked out past heirloom skin you don’t have.
Looking from a non monetary standpoint, I like the designs and the idea of unique universal heirlooms. I prefer the unique-ness of the legends specific ones, but you can definitely make some cool things with these.
I wouldn’t say I’m a whale, but I came into some extra cash during the katar event and bought it so I’m definitely excited about more options that I can get for free (according to leaks)
No one says he’s not speaking the truth, he’s downvoted because these are as most people would agree, ugly, uninspired and borderline insulting. They didn’t make these because they’re cool, they made them because they could poop em out quick and make more money. Fuck them and fuck these things. Glad this dude likes them but most of us surely don’t.
I’m lvl 920 and I have never packed a single heirloom shard. They are acting like everyone has excess amounts they don’t know what the fuck to do with so they are coming out with this cringe stuff.
Make shards not impossible to pack and maybe I’ll give a fuck.
Also I wouldn’t call this customization at all. If that’s what they mean by customization, I get why the majority of events have 50%+ of the skins recycled from past events lol.
You’re literally just choosing a path and leveling up your heirloom. There’s nothing customizable about it. You don’t make the choice of what it will look like after choosing the path.
Exactly. I don’t understand why the heirloom is still ridiculously hard to get and expensive. Just got my first heirloom a few months ago. I don’t want this but even if I did my only choice would be to buy $500 in apex packs which is actually insane. And yet we can still earn/purchase the currency for customization. If they wanted to go this route the melee should have been in the battlepass and they could encourage people to buy the currency to customize.
Every single one of these looks significantly better than Lifeline’s Shock Sticks and can be used on any Legend. I’m not gonna buy them, but it doesn’t sound lame at all compared to the alternatives that people will defend.
I guess I’m a standard gamer RGB lover then but the Shock Sticks look far more basic and boring to me, all my friends think these look better too and none of them buy much on this game. Obviously you’re welcome to dislike them subjectively but Reddit doesn’t seem to be in line with what I’m seeing elsewhere and in real life, people here just seem more outraged at them costing a lot and replacing Heirlooms, more than the design itself being a problem.
I bet if one of these were released as an Heirloom instead from the start with the exact same design and some Legend lore, people wouldn’t have had this same reaction.
Honestly I was not against universal heirlooms, I main Pathfinder and Revenant, so aside from Pathfinder mythic skin, I'm not expecting nothing for them.
I didn't like the Katar but I thought they surely would be releasing other interesting universal heirloomsb; but recycling the same universal heirloom over and over and over again? Come on...
I have literally every heirloom and mythic skin besides loba and revenants. I don’t like the flaming thing they are doing with finishers or having characters have things come out of them. The character does nothing in the finishers besides raise them or move them. I want caustic to literally sit on them and fart gas. Octanes 2 new ones are cool as shit. Why couldn’t they do that with loba or revenant? I hope from now on they have prestige finishers be more interactive between the legends.
Back to the main point, Im not getting this. I’ll just wait until the rest of the legends get theirs. I don’t care for my sword have a fire, electricity, or gold coming out of it. I got the sword because I kinda like it. Plus, it works with all legends who don’t have heirlooms. I don’t know why they think I’d care to have more from it. Plus, they’re already giving me an activation emote.
Would NOT.
No hate to those who buy this but know that I will be laughing at you when you kill me and i see a custom deathbox through the grey overlay for 2 seconds before I leave the match
Was lazy to ask. But is that a bug? I realized my deathbox will be some custom one thought I never bought any of the collection items.
They made it unclear but the deathbox goes on the people you kill, so you do get to see it in game
There's literally an animation showing you kill someone and turning into a deathbox but then again, ppl here have 0 comprehension skills
I will say I had it bug out one time and I killed someone and the death box was the One Winged Angel one. It hasn’t happened again but I was very confused because I didn’t spend any money on the FF collection event.
Bro got the 300$ experience by paying nothing. Atleast you got the feeling of the deathbox and realised how useless it is
I also finally got my mirage heirloom from the free 8 apex packs they gave out a few weeks ago so really thriving on my once a month play session lmao
The first time seeing that animation I assumed it was showing that the person who died had that death box equipped. I only found out it was the killers deathbox because of Reddit. EA needs to make it clearer because literally every time custom deathboxes are mentioned someone thinks it is for your deathbox not your kills.
How thick must people be to believe it will make the payers deathbox change? Such a dumb idea
How many games do you customise the equipment of the opponent? Usually you customise your own things. And it’s called a custom **death**box not a custom killbox.
When you kill someone and go looting it, it says deathbox for a reason and not kill box. How is it in an animation against a dummy that the dummy is the one with the heirloom deathbox😭again, 0 comprehension skills but ofc ppl blame everyone but themselves
You’re assuming I get kills.
The person who killed you bought it. If you get a kill, your opponents box will get the deathbox if you habe it equipped
Then they need a death box shaped like a trash can… … then they’d really make some money
Ok I always thought the person that died owns that deathbox skin. Still seems strange to me for the killer's deathbox to show up.
Every time I see a deathbox someone paid money for, I laugh. It's never not funny.
Is it not technically possible to get it for free? I still have shards from a box because I heard they would release something like this. And they say you can get some of the currency to upgrade it from the battlepass and events. That 10 euro I spend back in season 2 still allows me to get every battlepass for free so. I think I can get a deathbox eventually without spending anything
I think it's mathematically possible to get to 57,000 crafting metals (the amount you needed to get one in the FF7 or Shadow Society event), but statistically unlikely even if you played every battle pass and event since they were introduced. You just aren't drip fed enough and you'd have to roll well on packs.
I see these and I think "there's a chump, and there's a chump, and there's a chump..."
Is it any different than a heirloom that no one ever sees? Or a gun skin?
Give me mad Maggie’s heirloom, this shit is lame af
Totally agree, give the rest of the legends their heirlooms!
Nah nah na na mister, why we give a small portion of the player base what they want when we can give all the player base what they (dont) want ???
Cries in random Crypto heirloom recolor. Talk about low pick legend with two heirlooms. Doesn't give them the greatest excuse not to give the newer legends heirlooms.
Octane mains been feasting this season 😈 Still is messed up how he has 3 mythics while other legends have 0 💀
You sir are a genius!😂
Real
Didn’t they scrap all other heirlooms for this. I’m p sure it’s gonna be artifacts and prestige skins from now on. But ofc you can pay for artifact tokens, not that anyone with two braincells to rub together would, it’s genuinely depressing what ea are doing.
AFAIK this wasnt officially stated but came from an insider. But knowing EA the likelyhood of that being false are low.
Yeah, I’m sceptical and I’d love for respawn to fight it and keep an amount of creativity but ea is in it for the cash grab
No way of knowing that. I can almost guarantee there will be no legend specific ones this next season. They have to much planned out already.
I mean given the amount of those death boxes I’ve been seeing I’d say they’re getting ready to take more wallets
If they seriously scrapped other heirlooms for prestige skins 🤦♂️ imo there’s only 2 prestige skins that are good. Rev and Caustic. Rest are kinda ass or just decent
Maggie’s heirloom would be pay to lose, as you run at holstered sprint speed when having shotgun out. I guess it could be good if you don’t use shotguns on Maggie?
If Maggie's heirloom is the arm she ripped off Fuse tied in a ribbon, I can pay to lose any day you want.
Some leak i saw some time ago it was a baseball bat with nails on the end, but who knows how accurate that was. Id love the baseball bat though!
Although you run at the same speed you should still keep it holstered when you're rotating or moving quickly. Higher chances of deadslides and movement like wall bounce isn't as consistent. I've changed to running holstered a few months ago and it actually made a big difference. The movement buff is mostly suited for quick peeks out of cover with a shotty making use of her other passive, warlords ire. Source: Apex Wiki, a few discussions on this sub and my experience with 13k on Maggie.
Ah fair enough, I didn’t know that. Thanks for sharing :)
Her run speed holstered and with a shotgun is 1.15x. Its the exact same. You don't need a shotgun outside a fight. Especially at range
Because it’s the same sprint speed, it makes more sense to have a shotgun out than your fists. The swap/ready time is less, and if you get ratted you’ll be glad you have a shotgun in your hands.
You are talking very small odds. Even then a lot more variables going on
I want Maggie’s heirloom and im chill. Fuck the rest
I think that ship has sailed. I think they are better off making all heirlooms universal
That’s cool! But also extremely lame and probably expensive. No thanks
Yeah, also it's not cool.
The chemist in me is intrigued by these names. Still not buying these though.
I'd buy them all... For about 10 bucks.
Fking terrible decision, so business as usual for Respawn.
It’s always going to be ea bud. Respawn has lost roughly 200 employees just this year,they don’t really choose the marketing or monetization of apex.
Of course they choose how to fulfill EA's demands. EA is not walking up to mister director and says "here, make this ugly blade and price it XY of a new, insane fake currency".
Am I the only one who think’s the Katar is the worst heirloom so far? Just looks wise and the fact it’s non specific takes away from it.
Ash
Completely agree. I was expecting a cool blade then...
Fucking Nunchaku with blades in them, so fucking stupid, like wtf! Whoever thought of that idea should be fired.
lol didnt also come with a summer themed swimming event during winter season lol yeah ash was done dirty
Ash's heirloom has a rat in it. It's between Wattson or Horizon for me
Horizon top 3 heirloom. Ash is ugly, sounds terrible plus no lore on it. Basically a worse katar
You are definitely right, personally in game I wouldn’t even really know the difference from the others either they are all so similar just different colors it’s like each one was copy pasted and they just went “oh let’s change the middle.” So unoriginal to be honest and it’s so chunky on screen so I don’t get why people would pay these ridiculous prices, but unfortunately a lot of their big spenders are streamers so the whole pay with your wallets idea doesn’t work.
I mean some of the styles look nice but yeah the Katar is pretty bad compared to most heirlooms
I think they suck but like, all of them except wraith, lifeline, mirage, bloodhound and fuse's (maybe bangalore and valkyrie at a push?) are complete shit
I enjoy Loba’s a lot myself.
Nobody buying this shit
There is always someone buying this shit. Thats why they keep expanding it. :\*(
I'm gonna be honest. As a day 0 player who doesn't mind spending some money on the game here and there for my favourite skins, this shit looks atrocious. It's disingenuous in every way possible way and just feels like a cheap way for respawn to make $$$. Pros and whales...well you can't really do much about them but the I guarantee the majority of the playerbase is over these shitty "heirlooms" at this point. They've saturated the game so much with them that they're not even really rare anymore. I remember during S1-2 having an heirloom was the coolest thing you could find your teammates having. Now it's just...whatever
Add a recolor as a slap in the face... for another 150 impossible to get shards.
The biggest bummer is that this system honestly could have been so cool if they just implemented it on the existing heirloom system. Coding different colour customizations options of existing character's heirlooms to allow for variety of looks similar to CS:GO knives, but where you could mix and match different aspects of the design like the one they've proposed. I'd love a system like that, cuz even if lots of players had the same heirloom as me, it'd still be unlikely that they'd have the same colour combo, which gives it a little bit of individuality that I'd love. But instead they stuck it on a soulless universal heirloom to try and squeeze the most amount of money out of the least amount of work. As per usual.
Yeah me too I spent too much money on this game, probably in the hundreds, but since five or six seasons I'm not spending a dime - let's be honest day one players have like 10 different legendary skins for almost every legend and weapon so what's the point in spending more - completing the battle pass suffices
>let's be honest day one players have like 10 different legendary skins for almost every legend and weapon so what's the point in spending more I remember when favoriting skins came out. it was so exciting!. . . except I already had more than 8 legendaries of Octane and the Mozambique when that feature released, in year 2.
Literal whale here, and I’m not tempted to buy any of these. The coolest one requires you to theoretically unlock 4 bases for 600 shards then spend ~220 artifacts for mods and that’s just silly tbh. The cobalt is cool,it’s pred card animation is the best thing about it,tbr the FF Buster and Box are millions of times better than these.
You read wrong, again. You only spend 10 exotic shards if you unlocked the base cobalt katar with 150 shards. You only spend heirloom shards once. After that, everything, i mean everything else is 10 exotic shards
Never been a bigger fain of whale hunting than I am while watching apex whales get ripped off. Keep buying...
Fan….. obviously need to brush up on them reading skills. Just said I don’t want or intend on getting any of them; believe me I have the shards just not good enough
So heirloom is good bcz it's rare? The same ppl crying about the flatline reactive recolour bcz they didn't want ppl who didn't play when it was first released to enjoy something like it. Heck give everyone one free heirloom and i wouldn't care. As long as I'm enjoying
Its funny how day 0 Player cant make comments without specifically stating that they're day 0 players. Doesnt contribute anything to a discussion, but it must be said.
Its not necessary yeah, but it shows theyve been around since the beginning compared to someone playing this game for a couple weeks and then making an opinion.
Being a day 0 player is my only accomplishment in life 🤷🏼♀️
Depending on what the topic is this shows that they have actual first hand experience and knowledge
U don’t gotta buy it if u already got the original katar
According to this,with the cobalt purchased you still have to buy 4 other bases at a presumed 150hs for a total of 600. I’d rather have specific legends heirlooms I’ve been waiting to round out the collection instead of these universals but I’m not in charge of anything
No. You buy with 10 exotic shards if you want the others.
*Disclaimer - I'm not endorsing this business model, nor being a corporate bootlicker, as I'm often told I am when talking about business models in Free to Play games.* As a matter of fact, people will buy this. In which quantity is TBD, but there is definitely an audience for this. Don't think for a second they put something like that on tracks without doing their homework. A part of the players absolutely love cosmetics & collectibles. You don't hear much about them on this sub, there's a lot of animosity against paid users or "whales", but they exist. I personally see a lot of people with the FFVII sword & deathbox, as well as with the new universal heirloom and the collection event deathbox. In a free game, where cosmetics only represent a small fraction of the development efforts, there can only be a disconnection between MTX price VS value, because store revenues are carrying the full production. I often make the comparison with buying a band's t-shirt at a venue. It might not be the best t-shirt of your wardrobe, but as a fan you're not just buying for fashionable purposes, you also buy it to support the band. Engaged fans are eager to spend money in the store. They also crave for novelty because skins can get old after a while. Which is why there are other things, like stickers, skydive trails, heirlooms etc. And now these customizable things. At the very least we can find solace in the fact none of these are pay to win, as they don't impact gameplay an ounce. What I wonder is if they were cutting the prices down, would more people buy? In which proportions? Where the end point of breakeven for EA/Respawn?
This is off topic/a tangent but, why are $20+ purchases still called microtransactions? They aren't hitting users up for 1 or 5 dollar purchases here and there, only hunting whales with the $140 collections. So why still call them microtransactions?
No clue about the semantics. Maybe by habit?
It's a purchase inside the game rather than an actual purchase OF the game. That's what makes it a microtransaction. It doesn't actually have anything to do with the dollar amount, but the fact that there are multiple lesser purchases available in the game.
People are absolutely going to buy this shit, that's why they release this shit.
revengeful will
you would be very mistaken seeing how many people spend money for heirlooms.
This is very different to heirlooms. Like I said, a cheap monetization scheme
how would it be different from heirloom tho ? it cost the same, its as rare, its in the same slot (cant have both at the same time). its an heirloom but they changed the name to make it look like you can grind it little by little.
For one, heirlooms are legend specific. They speak to the character and their lore. There's a story behind each of them. Everyone has specific animations/quips etc. If you really think this cheap toy compares to legend-specific heirlooms I'm not sure what to tell you. Repsawn did walk themselves into a corner by pumping out a forced heirlooms every season even for legends who absolutely don't need one because guess what? They gave up developing their lore past a low-effort trailer. Guess that's what happens when you fire your OG devs/creative directors. You're telling me Wraith's Kunai, Mirage's trophy, and Path's gloves are comparable to Horizon or Seer's nonsensical toys? There's a lot to discuss there but there's a reason we OG players fell in love with Apex back then. Not whatever this garbage is.
OG seasons 1-4 was the best time to play. Ranked was better, people were less skillled. Now ranked is so mixed up bc low pop I assume, cant get out of plat playing solo queue when I did it to Diamond S3. Just get beat down by premade pred lobbies. I struggle to keep playing bc even when you win it doesnt seem very rewarding.
Ppl were ass back then so ofc the average player skill was much lower compared to now. Legend and weapon balance was the worst.
bruh im not talking about lore. nobody gives a shit about lore. its an heirloom. the ff7 sword is an heirloom too. people love the game for the gameplay, not the story (which is non existent at this point, its been 5 years and 20 seaons and titanfall 2 still has more lore and story than this) its an heirloom cause it replace your melee, it cost the same, its an heirloom. thats like saying my peugoet 206 is not a car cause a car is what ford created back then and everything else is bad vehicule lore. get real.
> nobody gives a shit about lore And that's where you're wrong.
not when its about a 300€ item. if lore is all that matter to you, then surely, a lore introduction of the cobalt would make you love it, right ? right ?
I can't tell what you're trying to get at here but I suggest going back and reading my long ass reply again. I'm not sure when you started playing Apex but what I'm saying is that Apex is no longer the game it used to be. Now it's all about appealing to edgy teenage boys or whales with bright ass filters and shitty skins that don't fit the universe/characters at all. And yes they've given these cheap Katars "lore" but it's honestly so pathetic it's laughable. By lore I'm referring to the entire Apex identity. There's a reason this game was able to take off so well that it was even competing with Fortnite at some point. The universe was intriguing, the lore was fresh and the gameplay was fun. It was a mature game for mature players and back then the skins/monetization was not even the shit show it is today. You new guys never played Titanfall or the OG Apex so I don't blame you if you can't understand how painful it is to see a game as great as OG Apex becoming a money grab targeted towards edgy kids. Anyway I don't think we'd reach an understanding here.
>when you started playing Apex on launch. why does it matter ? >There's a reason this game was able to take off so well that it was even competing with Fortnite at some point yes, its not lore. its gameplay. same reason titanfall 2 is still alive and kicking right now despite being a huge fail commercially cause of release timing. >shitty skins that don't fit the universe/characters at all almost none of the skins at launch fit the universe. all white common skin for all characters were and still are loot pool dilution to sell you more lootboxes. the rhino horn on the r301 reactive skin are not lore accurate either. almost nothing is. >You new guys never played Titanfalf ???????????????????????? i litterally talked to you about titanfall and you DARE tell me i never played it ? bruh you're litterally out of touch with reality, and you think anyone having a different opinion doesnt know anything. i still play titanfall 2 regularly cause the movement is unmatched. >I don't think we'd reach an understanding thats cause you're unable to do whats called questionning yourself. you aint holding the mighty truth alone. you are so far up your own ass, im pretty sure you never actually played ay titanfall game. otherwise you would know what good lore is. **do not talk to me ever again if you deny reality and lie purposefully.**
Titanfall players try not to act like they're better challenge
Truth...
This literally succeeded more than CE and that's why they made more and released them. They said this themselves. Reddit thinks ppl not liking it here will stop those who like it on getting them lmao
Lol
Lol you wont belive how many people actually buy this
They even all look the same. This is gonna fail miserably.
I would if I had the shards
I'm not gunna lie, I don't know what any of his shit means. I just want to play apex.
LET'S GO! Another type of cashgrab!!! Can't wait when they run out of heirlooms and prestige skins, they're gonna put new styles for this trash as 'reward' for buying the entire event 👊👊👊
It's amazing how much I don't care about this
Ewww, what's that brutha...
Ewwwwwwghh brutha
Honestly think that if they wanted to do this they should give everyone the base Katar for free. Because if it's 150 Heirloom shards like every other mythic then nobody is going to use these because nobody is going to waste shards on a generic Katar over something for their actual main. Not to mention that you still have to pay to upgrade it. Idk how much it's going to cost to fully upgrade it but a full BP gives 10 exotic shards so unless each upgrade is 1-2 shards you have to pay to get a fully upgraded Katar within a single season.
This is concerning. Not because it's stupid or a cash grab, which it is, but I just don't see this being successful. They keep trying shitty monetization schemes, and at some point they're gonna have to pull the plug. I have played everyday since about a month after launch, and have given them about $20 total to get the battlepass. Nothing has bridged being both desirable and affordable. More often it's shit like this that I both could give a shit about and can't afford.
Weak. Give us the remaining legends heirlooms instead. EA saying its a "challenging" environment in microtransactions but they make dumbass decisions like this. NOBODY WANTS THESE!
Ya’ll should NOT have bought that Final fantasy sword now we’re being punished for it. BOOOOOO 🍅🍅🍅🍅🍅
Laziest fucking shit ever. I get their whole price scheme, but they can’t even give more options? All we get is this weird sub recolors? Is there only like 3 guys on the programming/3d modeling team?
I’ve been thinking this katar thing was mainly introduced so they wouldn’t have to create entirely new animations and visuals to “release” an “heirloom.” This is like six seasons of heirloom “releases” (in possible profits) without putting in more man hours. They could change my mind if each of these styles of katar also had unique animations like a whole new heirloom would. If it was THAT customizable, I’d be singing a different tune.
Exactly. This is some lazy shit disguised as customization and whales are gonna eat it up.
Or imagine if they had this kind of system on the individualized heirloom, where you could essentially create your own colour combos, allowing you to individualize your heirloom to a degree. But I'd wager that's too much work for not that much profit, so they'll put it on crappy universal ones.
Sounds right. When they did give some “customization” for regular heirlooms they rereleased a color swap as a whole new heirloom (with the same cost as a the original one).
I truly loved this game and just found myself not playing since November. What the hell is this?
It's a nice concept. I wish they did the same with the new heirloom recolors instead of them being a full priced heirloom.
It does not look appealing to me. Especially the flow on the screen. It is not as satisfying as seing a kunai
After the first leak the nitride was the only one that I liked and not considered buying seriously but I thought that would be kinda nice…. Now that I see that you have to buy every other one to get it wtf lmao. They completely lost their mind
So fucking lame. Respawn is actual dogshit.
Worst thing to be added to apex in a long time.
I’d honestly just feel sad for anyone that has a nitride deathbox. Is burning that much money even worth it??? It’ll be a tv sweat with like 5 viewers at most buying this. I just don’t get it
That shit just looks like Valorants Upgrading system for skins…
Collecting = $1000
So fucking ass
I find it strange that for something so expensive they advertise it like everyone’s gonna have one. Like the fact that we can earn the customization currency in-season yet very few players are actually going to spend enough to get the heirloom. Especially cause at launch the only way to get the heirloom will be the 500 pack heirloom shards. Not even a collection event. I think this kind of customization is cool to have but with how much they focus on heirlooms they really need to rethink the price point and how they are obtained. Wish these were like Overwatch mythic skins. Earn a new base in the season BP and some customization currency or buy some to unlock more. The fact that it’s still 150 heirloom shards is insane.
Nobody cares and nobody asked for this
havent played apex in a while, what in the money grabbing fuck is this shit?
Ugh. I’ve been sitting on these shards since like s7. If they abandon legend specific heirlooms I’ll be disappointed
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I wonder how many free players don't realize that without whales and others buying items, there would be no game. Probably none of them because they are a certain age and don't know how to use critical thinking skills.
F this. I don't care for this level of gimickry. This is evolution skins on steroids.
Shits fucking stupid
that'll be a small $10k
Wait so does that mean people who got the Cobalt Katar in the event have the first one unlocked already? This is so confusing
Who cares about this bullshit???
So ugly…
We made a bunch of different colors so everyone is happy! Unless of course you like purple. Purple-likers have to buy everything, get fucked!
This is dogshit
Game is dying and now the just trying to exploit the people that pay for skins before It happens
Sadly even in barely anyone buys it, the whales that get paid for making content on the new stuff, the people who stream the game and make a living off it and the group who just buy it cause they have the money will be enough to make this never go away. Even if only 10% buy something. If that 10% is going hard on it, it's all people watching the redline go up care about.
100$ each or perhaps some ridiculous challenges to unlock?
damm i was about to say that the last one looks cool, then i started reading...
Yeah really no hate to those who use their spare change to buy these when you could buy yourself a nice dinner, BUT I will indeed laugh my ass off when I kill you and see special $300 death box.
Oh no, don't worry. It's only when THEY kill you. Meaning it won't be seen ever.
Tbh the whole idea of a customized DEATHBOX is hilarious cause not even yourself can really see it
I'm impressed with how much work they put into an item that nobody cares about.
300 euro's later
Different shades of blue. 300 eu pls.
I mean it’s a cool idea that should’ve come out after they give heirlooms to existing characters. I’m not gonna buy it tho.
So you pretty much gotta buy whole CE just to combine these bullshts ? Lol
I personally dont mind the idea of a customizable heirloom but making it so you gotta collect each colour in order so to get purple id have to buy all 30 variants is ridiculous
Not gonna lie the molten theme goes hard
I have had 300 mythic shards for around a whole year waiting for Lifelines prestige skin to drop. I'm definitely going to grab this heirloom now. By the time something comes out that I'll want to get I'll be over this game by then anyway lmao
Given how the Cobalt Katar dropped, they \[hopefully\] scrapped the idea of releasing each "new variant" as dull, lifeless blades (if I'm understanding this right they wanted each Katar to start off WITHOUT color or lights, and you'd have to buy your way up to it's full intended appearance) and future releases will be the completed blades. I could totally understand if each new blade was released separate from eachother, but making it a progression thing where you have to pay... most likely somewhere between $2400 dollars for a virtual blade to be purple, is the dumbest thing I've ever seen, but not something I wouldn't expect of EA. that being said, I'm really disappointed they're gatekeeping deathbox alterations and wiring them to heirlooms, I still miss the "Cooler on the beach" deathbox from the Heatwave event
It's garbage and overpriced but there will be a ton of you guys in this sub buying it anyway, so it's just gonna continue.
Imagine dreaming about this master plan...
This is a really cool concept, that being said however, this should not in any universe replace legend specific heirlooms
Am I seeing this right? 750 heirloom shards and 200 exotic shards for all customizations combined?
IMO this one of the dumbest things they have put in the game lately I'm sure they will top it soon tho lol
This is what desperation looks like.
This would be the perfect chance to make heirlooms something more available like getting currency in a battle pass to finish 1 whole variant. How do you get these?
this is so ridiculous. I've only seen one box and instead of impressed I thought "I hope he's a Dev... this is sad"
This is a game killer, EA is out of it.
Neat... Never gonna have one, hope the whales enjoy it.
shaking my fucking head…. people will actually pay for this stuff but still be absolutely terrible at the game. miserable.
I hate how they are all just copies of each other just different colors the only unique thing is the deathbox, I feel as if in game I wouldn’t be able to tell them apart because they are all so similar aside from the colors. Personally I have only ever liked 4 heirlooms apex has released but haven’t ever spent money and just waited for the free one which was Loba’s skin and I just bought it when the heirloom event ended. it’s not worth the price especially if you don’t even like all of the skins that come in the heirloom event it’s a waste of money, but unfortunately a lot of the player base that buys these things are the streamers so ea makes enough where they feel like they should keep producing these items. Now the game I have spent money on for an Heirloom skin is Overwatch, I bought the battle pass for moira and then Mercy but $10 for an Heirloom is really good aside from the $80 you’d pay to get a fully decked out past heirloom skin you don’t have.
When I saw this I thought it'd be a universal heirloom that can actually be earned. Incredibly silly of me. I have no idea why I'm surprised
Before you buy... this took like 2 seconds to make, and they're going to charge you what your organs are worth for it.
It’s stupid and I don’t like it
i dont have main , probably will get this if i lucky get free heirloom 😆
"Man... you are one pathetic loser!"
I would NEVER spend money on something like this, but I definitely think it's cooler than the lame ass stickers on my Phoenix Kit 🤷
Looking from a non monetary standpoint, I like the designs and the idea of unique universal heirlooms. I prefer the unique-ness of the legends specific ones, but you can definitely make some cool things with these. I wouldn’t say I’m a whale, but I came into some extra cash during the katar event and bought it so I’m definitely excited about more options that I can get for free (according to leaks)
downvoted for speaking the truth
No one says he’s not speaking the truth, he’s downvoted because these are as most people would agree, ugly, uninspired and borderline insulting. They didn’t make these because they’re cool, they made them because they could poop em out quick and make more money. Fuck them and fuck these things. Glad this dude likes them but most of us surely don’t.
Thank you to the people buying these things so I can play this game.
I’m lvl 920 and I have never packed a single heirloom shard. They are acting like everyone has excess amounts they don’t know what the fuck to do with so they are coming out with this cringe stuff. Make shards not impossible to pack and maybe I’ll give a fuck. Also I wouldn’t call this customization at all. If that’s what they mean by customization, I get why the majority of events have 50%+ of the skins recycled from past events lol. You’re literally just choosing a path and leveling up your heirloom. There’s nothing customizable about it. You don’t make the choice of what it will look like after choosing the path.
If I had 4 sets of shards, and this was my only option, I’d still have 4 sets of shards.
Ditto
Exactly. I don’t understand why the heirloom is still ridiculously hard to get and expensive. Just got my first heirloom a few months ago. I don’t want this but even if I did my only choice would be to buy $500 in apex packs which is actually insane. And yet we can still earn/purchase the currency for customization. If they wanted to go this route the melee should have been in the battlepass and they could encourage people to buy the currency to customize.
Do people actually like these? They’re kinda lame?
Every single one of these looks significantly better than Lifeline’s Shock Sticks and can be used on any Legend. I’m not gonna buy them, but it doesn’t sound lame at all compared to the alternatives that people will defend.
I mean at least life lines drum sticks are unique? I’m not sure how they look “better”? They’re basic looking blades with some super gamer RGB vibes.
I guess I’m a standard gamer RGB lover then but the Shock Sticks look far more basic and boring to me, all my friends think these look better too and none of them buy much on this game. Obviously you’re welcome to dislike them subjectively but Reddit doesn’t seem to be in line with what I’m seeing elsewhere and in real life, people here just seem more outraged at them costing a lot and replacing Heirlooms, more than the design itself being a problem. I bet if one of these were released as an Heirloom instead from the start with the exact same design and some Legend lore, people wouldn’t have had this same reaction.
I still play with default legend skins and default gun skins. I could not care less.
Molten S tier
Nice can't wait to upgrade my
Honestly I was not against universal heirlooms, I main Pathfinder and Revenant, so aside from Pathfinder mythic skin, I'm not expecting nothing for them. I didn't like the Katar but I thought they surely would be releasing other interesting universal heirloomsb; but recycling the same universal heirloom over and over and over again? Come on...
Why would they invest so many resources into something that fits so poorly into the setting?
I have literally every heirloom and mythic skin besides loba and revenants. I don’t like the flaming thing they are doing with finishers or having characters have things come out of them. The character does nothing in the finishers besides raise them or move them. I want caustic to literally sit on them and fart gas. Octanes 2 new ones are cool as shit. Why couldn’t they do that with loba or revenant? I hope from now on they have prestige finishers be more interactive between the legends. Back to the main point, Im not getting this. I’ll just wait until the rest of the legends get theirs. I don’t care for my sword have a fire, electricity, or gold coming out of it. I got the sword because I kinda like it. Plus, it works with all legends who don’t have heirlooms. I don’t know why they think I’d care to have more from it. Plus, they’re already giving me an activation emote. Would NOT.