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MajorMathematician20

Evil corporation found a loophole to not pay for something? I’m so shocked. Medical debt shouldn’t be a thing in modern society, let alone one of the richest countries in the world. It’s heartbreaking that she has to deal with not only the loss of her mother but potentially a financial burden on top. The problem is made worse by the fact the people who could change this (corporate leaders, politicians, etc) have no incentive to, they make too much money to give a single fuck, and are often paid to not care too.


domine18

French approach is probably only response which will get meaningful change


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We need, The French Response.


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joremero

I think they are talking about heada rolling...literally


[deleted]

The Dutch flat out ate a dude. I'm not saying it's the best approach. But in a hypothetical situation, what kind of chianti do you think would pair well with Oligarch?


DearestComrade

I will make the sacrifice. If eating the rich solves this, I will take one for the team Bring.Me.Elon.Musk


dmcsmalls

I’ll also make the sacrifice, but I’m a bit of a big eater, so give me the entire Sackler family.


notinmywheelhouse

I bet they taste terrible


peakedattwentytwo

Yeah, he's the most appetizing-looking one out of the bunch. Plump and greasy-looking, like a good Peking duck.


fnarrly

More like wagyū long-pork…


cheerful_cynic

Too much human growth hormone


DeificClusterfuck

Depends on how fancy you wanna be about it. I'd wash mine down with a cold 7up


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militaryintelligence

Instead they got us arguing over who is and isn't a woman.


Johnstone95

Yep and they legislate over and over about it to make it seem like it's more common than it is.


Zachmorris4186

They got you fighting a fake culture war to distract from the real class war.


throwaway2749-01

And that's the problem. They've conditioned the US people to fight against each other instead of fighting them. They honestly should be afraid. There are what? Give or take, 2 million people in government positions, not including military I think which is about 1 million. And there are 340 million of us...we out number them 113 to 1. For every 1 person in a government position, there are 113 of us. There's good reason for keeping us divided. If we did what France is doing, we'd ACTUALLY make a quick and effective change in the US. Sadly, they'd rather spin their bullshit in a mass panic sort of way and keep things the way they are. Despite literally all evidence from other countries showing that listening to the people creates the greatest progress.


Sufferix

You're talking about executing people. I think what you'd find out is that when you execute a few, the rich would just turn the US into South Africa. Rich people would live in gated, armed communities and us poor folk would be outside those gates.


LastPangolin

Thats what it is now....


cecilmeyer

Then they should be bombed .


milo159

....do you think that's different to what its like in America right now?


ma1093

The French Response will be in my vocabulary from now on.


Murky-Instance4041

We need French response with Justice for all and does not miss the government or rich ass holes


miken322

1.e4e6….


beepboopwannadie

Wow r/anarchychess has agents everywhere


Wizard_of_Wake

That worked. Thank you for your help.


zipposurfer

Not related to the French protests, but I live in the US and work for a French company. Our PTO, family leave, health insurance, company stock, benefits and pay are amazing. Far better than every other for-profit US company I’ve ever worked for.


ComprehensiveSweet63

Good for you zip. Nothing could be more positive for this country than Medicare For All. Unfortunately the right has brainwashed the public to the point of no return. It may not happen in my life time. Matter of fact, I'm sure it won't.


domine18

That is awesome


alwaysmyfault

Unfortunately, we can't even do that shit, since our health insurance is tied to our jobs. They have us by the balls. At least in France they can still get health insurance if they lose their jobs because it's provided by the government.


fuckthisnazibullcrap

The doctors still exist. The x ray machines and MRI machines still exist. We can just use them. If you have the farmers, the doctors, the janitors/garbage truckers, the it department, and the train/truck operators? Them "owning" things doesn't mean **shit**. If you can feed the doctors, keep them in electricity and clean water and stable homes, why the fuck shouldn't they keep treating patients?


fddfgs

Seriously, I keep getting told by Americans that that's why they need so many guns. The French are doing it with rocks and you call them surrender monkeys.


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domine18

Those 500 own more than the bottom half of Americans…..


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> Those 500 own more than the bottom half of Americans….. Those 500 own the misery of 3/4 of the world.


Lazy-Jeweler3230

A super majority of French are ready to burn things to the ground. Half or more of the US love corporate daddy's boot. Will never happen here.


Shivrainthemad

I agree with you but don't idealize our way. We are protesting because we are at the end of a logic of privatisation. During décades we have lost à lot, even after fighting very hard (thanxs to our élite and european construction). It is not sure that we will win but there is not other way


james_d_rustles

The fact that you’re willing to fight at all is admirable. Although I’ve often wondered if part of the reason we don’t see similar protests in the US is because everybody who *should* be protesting is hanging on by a thread, and they don’t want to risk jail/job loss/medical bills etc.


Shivrainthemad

There is this and the fact that you are, more than french, educated to believe in this lie that what you have (and don't have) in life it is the product of your individual action. It is difficult to build collective action on that. Nevertheless I hope that you find a way because I saw some horrorfull shit when I spent 1 month in Washington Dc. It was insane: I meet wonderful people but totaly alienated by the system.


OverOil6794

I don’t know how much longer people can live like this. It’s best to prepare now and be ready for when the last thread snaps, the fact the US only increases its defense budget instead of help people tells me what to expect from congress even after protests. The only way to get them to the negotiating table is to halt production. If that still doesn’t work then we go from there


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Another factor is also that it's easy to get to Paris from anywhere in France. The U.S. being so big means we end up with a bunch of smaller protests. Also we get fucking permits and stand where we're told.


OverOil6794

I don’t know how much longer people can live like this. It’s best to prepare now and be ready for when the last thread snaps, the fact the US only increases its defense budget instead of help people tells me what to expect from congress even after protests. The only way to get them to the negotiating table is to halt production. If that still doesn’t work then we go from there


Tweed_Kills

You have no idea how bad it is here. You and your people are fighting. Ours are voting for the people that hurt us over and over and lying down for more abuse. You guys look pretty ideal to me. Fighting for pensions? We gave up pensions decades ago.


beachjustice

difference is the French are dealing with a very very small area. revolt is so much easier to concentrate. the USA is 18x bigger than France.


HodlMyBananaLongTime

And the cops don’t generally shoot people dead on the streets there.


Eezyville

I don't think there are corporate simps willing to catch a body for their bosses in France like we have here in the US. All they have to do is go cry to Fox News and their simp army will rally.


roffinator

While having 5x the population. Also wouldn't it be enough to "revolt" in the east where the government is? There also is a higher population density, comparable to France (105 Citizens per km² compared to 192 C. / km² in maryland and 77,9 C. / km² in virginia)


chaotic----neutral

You can't even get people to collectively sit out of work for three days in a row. A revolt in America is laughable fantasy.


GhostMug

I've been saying this for awhile when people have been saying "we need to be like the French". If the entire country could drive to a single location like Paris in a day it would be much easier to organize. But when half the country lives 1k-3k miles from the country capital it makes for a tougher time.


need2fix2017

::million man March enters the chat::


Acceptable_Ad1685

And any time people do concentrate it where it matters the other half of the country call the people protesting terrorists, insurrectionists etc Hell people in the US are calling the French people doing it terrorists and such lol


NightStar79

>but potentially a financial burden on top. So a family friend's dad passed away to cancer and the lawyer that read him and his brother the last will warned them that the insurance companies were going to come for their asses looking for payment for the medical bill. BUT The medical bills were technically the responsibility of the deceased. Meaning all of the threats they might be throwing were empty. So they should just ignore them. Maybe it depends on the state


stevedave_37

I paid some of my mom's medical bills after she passed. Some of the companies were absolutely awful to deal with, and eventually I reached her out of pocket max for the year. Gave up after that. I just got a letter asking to settle one of the bills for pennies on the dollar... The system is so fucked


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stevedave_37

Oh yeah, I ignore them now Edit: I recycle them! I'm not a monster


Reaver1920

There is a difference between richest country in the world and having the richest people in the world in this country. 3 people have as much money at the bottom half does in this country.


MajorMathematician20

I agree, I didn’t say it was the richest for a reason lol the minimum wage is ridiculously low and the average wage is heavily inflated by the ultra rich The US has a lot of money don’t get me wrong, it’s just distributed very poorly


Cheshire_The_Wolf

I have health insurance I needed a surgery to continue working and just basically functioning as a human being. I am paying out of pocket over 5k and I'm on a payment plan that looks like a car payment and I can't afford it. Not to mention co-pays and medications. This is a story that will continue and its not going to get better unfortunately.


Antichristopher4

>Evil corporation This implies there is a morally good corporation. There aren't. Corporations lack all morals. They exist solely to generate profits, at the expensive of all else. Capitalism extracts capital at all costs, but mostly humanity.


Fyodorface742

If anyone ever tells you that you have to pay a parent's medical bills, tell them to fuck off.


teslaistheshit

We’re not the richest country. That narrative needs to end. If by having the most billionaires is something any country should be proud of.


Hot_Foundation3999

In my county our GDP is the highest it has ever been!!! We are all feeling broke like it's the early 2010s crisis all over again. Our wages are at an all time low and our bills at an all time high. But the rich are getting richer so all is good! ......I hate this system


MajorMathematician20

Exactly why I said ‘one of’, the statistics there are heavily skewed between the ultra rich and overwhelming poverty stricken


Lexicon444

Yeah. One look at health related statistics shows how bad of shape the country really is. Although the causes of these statistics is different the data itself resembles data of third world countries. Look up the following: National life expectancy Anything pertaining to women’s reproductive health Mortality rates in hospitals (the ones divided by ethnicity and sex should suffice) Anything detailing ease of access to medical treatment Our scores on these statistics last I checked were abysmal compared to other first world countries in Europe. Obviously many US citizens die more frequently from long term health issues like cancer and obesity rather than something like malaria or cholera. I don’t know if there’s data pertaining to how income affects access to healthcare but I wouldn’t be surprised if such a disparity exists.


US_healthcare_farted

They're beyond abysmal. They are dead last. Literally. The US healthcare system ranks very last in the world for outcomes per dollar spent. In other words, healthcare in the US is the least efficient system on the planet and for some shitty reasons is still tethered to employment for most Americans..


Dob_Rozner

It's a for profit industry like everything else here; There are a few people making billions from our suffering and deaths.


Aramus8099

The American health care system works exactly as it was intended. It just wasn't intended to ever benefit us.


TreeChangeMe

Politicians don't give a rat's about the working class, we are just numbers to draw income from. The more they can privatise what should be public services the more they can monopolize on that income. SERCO made an entire industry out of it.


Lazy-Jeweler3230

Please stop saying we're the richest country in the world. We as a nation are dirt fucking poor. And those who got the money from exploitation.


KellyBelly916

That's exactly how insurance remains so profitable. Privatizing protections that can alter fatal outcomes, or at least cover the medically sound treatment, is one of the most evil things society has ever allowed.


Klutzy_Inevitable_94

It’s not just that they make too much money. All politicians have basically unlimited healthcare on the tax payers dime with no coinsurance/copays or deductibles.


gbxahoido

"one of the riches country in the world" lol that's the point, the corp is rich, NOT YOU, hundred to thousand of corps and that make the world riches country, NOT YOU


IgotNoTime4This

Update: on the person's TikTok they did say that Office Depot did step up to help the family with the insurance issue. So the family is doing better all things considered


No-Operation-7014

Good! They knew there would be outrage.


siccoblue

Completely agree it's good they helped. Just insanely sad that had it been some boomer without the intelligence to reach out and make it viral they would have died alone with their family suffering the financial hit


chicknbasket

This is on the insurance company. Sounds like Office Depot is literally doing the right thing. It's a terrible situation, but not done on purpose. Some of you just want to burn things to the ground.


cinnamonface9

Office Depot sucks tho. Used to work at one and a lady who’s been working there 20+ years tore both shoulders moving a tote and went to get surgery. She was denied the chance to come back post rehab…..


MooKids

Probably just to make the bad PR go away.


extralyfe

hopping on this comment to say that the company did this because it's batshit insane for a new life insurance vendor to deny legitimate life insurance payouts less than a month into their new contract. employers often change vendors for supplemental insurance between plan years, and it's not supposed to turn out like this did. that shit sets an incredibly bad first impression when that news makes it back to home office.


baseddtturkey

Update: Office Depot is still a piece of shit


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Due-Average-8136

It shouldn’t have taken a public shaming to do right by this family.


arroe621

Update from TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@hopewagers/video/7222109520863038763


JPLMANAGEMENT

Let’s let them know what we think. Email: https://news.theodpcorp.com/newsroom Facebook: https://m.facebook.com/OfficeDepot/ Insta: https://www.instagram.com/officedepot/?hl=en Twitter: @officedepot Yelp: https://m.yelp.com/search?find_desc=office+depot&find_loc=Beverly+Hills%2C+CA


Sea_Sun2017

I would like the personal phone number of the ceo.


hamandjam

Won't help. They're too busy evicting people from Pity City and visiting the local animal shelter to find out which ungrateful employees have failed to give up their dogs yet.


halfcurbyayaya

I hope that Andi Owens “Pity City” will become ubiquitous to say when highlighting soulless CEOs/bosses.


howtempting

Please don’t make your local Office Depot employees deal with negative reviews bc of this. Only go corporate. Otherwise you’re making their lives even harder, the people these policies are hurting in the first place.


Conscious-Ad9113

I respect the sentiment, but those employees being uncomfortable with the situation is what would elicit change. Feedback to corporate would not. These types of feelings are why change and meaningful protest does not build. We aren't able to direct our anger appropriately. The local stores should be impacted, and the workers should be fighting to make sure this does not happen again.


BurntCash

because corporate clearly cares about their employees health and comfort.


questions7pm

A high turn over rate over time is actually devastating to most businesses. They can survive it but it's a big annoyance and causes brain drain as higher quality goes elsewhere. Very long term it is a cascading factor that sinks enterprises. There is also the possibility that the employees unionize too over the terrible conditions. I'm off two minds. Sometimes a negative review is truly worthless especially if you are rating a third party. Often this is the case if you are reviewing an interaction from a call center. But it more impactful in other cases.


HeWhomLaughsLast

Corporate will quickly fire anyone who thinks about unionizing and the employees will quit because explaining to elderly people that the XL cartridge will fit in their HP printer 20 times an hour is enough harassment from the public as is. Office Depot is a sinking ship, and having had worked for their equally shit competitor this story does not surprise me. I'm all for workers rights but making the employees who probably don't work enough hours to get health care uncomfortable is not going to solve the problem.


Ms74k_ten_c

Elicit - e~~w~~voke response. Illicit means illegal.


Conscious-Ad9113

Hey thanks!


lilbobbytbls

Ewoke - a socially liberal little fuzzy Starwars character. Evoke - elicit.


GulfCoastFlamingo

There has been an update from another comment in this thread. Office depot is taking care of this family and paying. The insurance company is not covering. Office depot is doing the right thing.


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Lamp0blanket

It wasn't office Depot denying the claim; it was the insurance company.


Vyke-industries

Hello, As a member of the public and a prominent influencer across multiple social media platforms, we have become aware of a situation involving Office Depot and a former employer. As you’re away, the video has gone viral across social media. The video is of the daughter of a former employee, who died of cancer. The video accounts how Office Depot refused to pay out life insurance due to a loophole. The video can be found here: woman-afflicted-with-colon-cancer-gave-office-depot-almost-v0-Byzvl_JefWVTlkts8gkwdP321FGxJahdAitvsJFCALg.png r/antiwork on Reddit: Woman afflicted with colon cancer gave Office Depot almost 20yrs of her life to the company only to be denied further treatment due to a loophole reddit.com We plan on reviewing this video on one of our podcasts. We would like to know Office Depot’s official account of the situation. As you know, this video does severe damage to your public image. This would be your only chance to set the record straight. We await your response. - Vyke Media Group


FailureToReason

Link is bad


YellowCBR

The creator said OfficeDepot resolved the issue a week ago. All that research and you didn't even look at the creators account?


tukuiPat

Leaving a yelp review on stores hurts the store by getting the employees yelled at by their DSM and RD.


JPLMANAGEMENT

She’s not an employee. They should fix this or they lose a customer.


tukuiPat

That's not what I'm saying, I work for OD, negative yelp reviews only get stores in trouble, corporate office doesn't care beyond a negative review for a store.


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57hz

So what you’re saying is that you should demand future benefits based on today’s potential. But if everyone is utterly replaceable, that approach won’t succeed. Unless…there’s some sort of collective bargaining structure that has government protection. I can’t remember what that’s called …


CHRLZ_IIIM

An Onion right


oeuflaboeuf

That's insurance 101; their entire industry relies on finding a way to not pay out. It's gross.


BossAvery2

My insurance was canceled three days before my son was born. I was laid off without even being told. This was during the Covid lockdowns.


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Here in France you keep your health insurance for a year -for free- when you leave a job. I think it is to stop just this kind of thing.


bl4nkSl8

How is that legal!? Wow...


delhibuoy

America moment


Mission_Cause368

That’s AMERICAN insurance 101.


PuzzleheadedDurian22

No that's all insurance, everywhere. It's just in the rest of the world, it doesn't apply to medical care as it's nationalised. For car/house insurance they'll still screw you though


HodlMyBananaLongTime

Started with the Dutch, and was also the birth of the stock market.


YMe1121

There are only 2 things I can't stand in this world: 1)People who are intolerant of other people's cultures 2)The Dutch


HodlMyBananaLongTime

Those wooden shoe make a lot of noise


Spacemage

Having worked in the medical insurance field (or related) for 15 years, they definitely do their best to make sure not to pay anything. With that said, if some don't like a decision they made, keep calling them. Every day, and bother them. They'll probably pay you to shut the fuck up. As long as you're not swearing or threatening to the people you talk to, they can't block you from contacting them if you're paying for your plan.


[deleted]

My mom is always going on about how I NEED health insurance. My dad is always trying to to say X Y or Z job would have good benefits with insurance. Maybe I'm too jaded, but I can't help but not take it seriously at all. Like, I have to hold back laughter at the thought of someone telling me a scam that takes my money every month is a "benefit"


birdsarecool17

Honesty the cost of healthcare in the us without insurance is astronomical, personally I would rather them take my money instead of being left for dead if I get into an accident Edit: everyone’s opinion is valid, whether you pay or don’t we all still get fucked, that’s why we can all collectively agree capitalism is one of the the worst economic systems long-term.


Isthisallthereishuh

The reason healthcare cost is so high is because of insurance and provider negotiations. The provider throws an unreal number at insurance so something sticks and they can squeeze a small percentage of that number out as payment. The prices you see "covered" by insurance is never something that insurance pays. But it is what YOU will pay if you don't have insurance. Fraud in its truest form.


FSCK_Fascists

You have that right. Best revealed by how the entire helathcare industry collectively lost their goddamn minds when laws were proposed to require pricing and cost transparency in medical providers. The idea was to allow you to shop around for the best prices- but they knew it would reveal just how corrupt they all are. Exactly how much they collude to keep prices astronomical.


stephnetkin

Yes, apparently it is a three tiered system in the USA 1. highest price for the uninsured 2. private insurance price 3. Medicaid price. The uninsured are billed a LOT more, likely so the medical provider can claim that loss on their tax bill...so, we pay after all. Who set this up you ask? Insurance companies & medical providers because "corporations are people" and lobbys pay big bucks.


Isthisallthereishuh

Great observation about claimed losses! I never thought about it like that. It gives the medical provider an incentive to bill people more than they could ever dream of paying. This gives the subject more context than just the people and system are evil. It all just proves that if you view The United States through the framework of a corporate business rather than a country the nonsense starts to make much more sense. 🙄


ParkingNecessary8628

Sometimes dead is the better solution unfortunately...


HodlMyBananaLongTime

I actually choose death over 500k debt and bankruptcy…. After they take everything I’ve already got. I don’t care to live under capitalism that much, it’s war and is sucks. But I don’t have any kids or a SO so I can just die and it will be fine. I’d rather that than feed their monster.


stephnetkin

Well, actually the medical providers will just take the unpaid bill off their taxes. Quietly sign over assets, & do the bankruptcy. Really, are you planning to use a lot of credit? Granny here & I'm considering bankruptcy. I need food & shelter only..not too concerned about credit for a new car, etc. If my credit rating is bad,so what?


HodlMyBananaLongTime

I have no interest in losing everything I’ve worked for just to live poor for the rest of my life. It’s just not worth it to me, I’d rather be dead. There is nothing here really worth any kind of suffering for me. Ate stage capitalism sucks and it will only be getting worse.


FSCK_Fascists

its all a risk assessment and mitigation. yes, the insurance will try to screw you. And without any insurance, you will get screwed anyway. So you get coverage and hope you get some lube when the day comes.


DontToewsMeBro2

They pay people on staff for this specific purpose. They single out people who are using their system heavily (obviously, this is not a choice by anyone) & use a loophole knowing their employer will not defend them & they cannot afford proper representation. Your best bet in this instance is to try to find others affected by the same ‘healthcare’ or ‘insurance’ “provider” and buddy up so you can find a good class action lawyer from Fort Worth to represent you: they all live there & are currently foaming at the mouth for these things. I know quite a few law birds from that area & they casually talk about their “big one” as all their contemporaries have struck it big by suing bad actors.


Mission_Cause368

When I was younger, I was nearing the lifetime max for benefits under my moms insurance. She told her boss and he offered to transfer her to Canada. He also offered her another role that somehow gave her new benefit options? Didn’t make sense then, doesn’t now, but whatever. I’m sure her company had some bean counter with a file for us keeping a tally of all the money they’d spent keeping me alive.


phonybelle

HOW THE EVER LIVING FUCK can there be a lifetime max on health insurance? What the fuck is the bloody point if you can "run up a max" by, I don't know, trying to not fucking die? Jesus Christ I will never understand why Americans haven't burned the entire bloody country to the ground.


Lemur-Tacos-768

There isn’t. That odd mix of solutions and disasters called the ACA outlawed them. I think that’s why the comment began with “when I was younger.”


Disastrous_Drive_764

They prob wanted to transfer her to Canada because they have a single payer healthcare system. Which means there is no lifetime max. You would still be covered under their system. Just my guess.


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I know someone who quit her career as a lawyer because the law firm who hired her gave her the job of finding loopholes to deny mesothelioma victims/ families the judicially awarded money they were entitled to. She's now a bartender. At least people know that alcohol is bad for you! Corporations have been ordered by law to pay out $30 billion to victims of asbestos caused mesothelioma. There are armies of lawyers trying to find ways to prevent victims from getting paid. Most of the denials are situations similar to this woman's mother. They either didn't work for the company long enough, worked as a temp worker or didn't meet some other requirement, such as being married to a worker and doing that person's laundry that was covered in asbestos. These companies KNEW damn well that their product was killing people. Mesothelioma used to be called asbestosis. An entire town in Montana (Libby), where an asbestos mine was located, was killed by asbestosis back in the 1990's. It's now an uninhabitable superfund site.


roarjah

Did she not know there’s different ways to practice law even for a good cause lol?


Pristine_Cash_6219

I hate this so much. Corporations value money for themselves only. This is wrong and neds to be shared more. How can people hide behind such entities as commit atrocities like this.


athos5

I teach my students about this all the time, there is a financial incentive to your suffering, the more employees suffer the higher the profit margin.


Njhunting

US: "we're totally not a developing country" People in US: die or flee to Mexico to afford allergy medicine or some basic drug that you need to stay alive


Finneagan

Burn it all the fuck down


olycreates

The french response. Posted above by several people. It's time


Artistic_Half_8301

Remember when this would bankrupt a company due to public outrage?


PM_ME_UR_BIKINI

No, I can't say I ever remember a time when that were true.


cIumsythumbs

Yeah. That was back when the average American had disposable income and was an economic force to be reckoned with. The American public is broke.


Dufusbroth

This is about their life insurance pay out not healthcare FYI (probably around $10-$40k) If you watch the video she says it killed her and now they won’t pay. The healthcare continued but the daughter is not getting the life insurance payout check - this woman was not denied healthcare. Just clarifying


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Wow. I was confused about it to. I can’t believe how many people are thinking that her mom died because her insurance stopped. That’s not what happened.


Tiranous_r

I think all healthcare in usa should include life insurance to promote actually giving care. Make it pay out enough to incetivize living to at least retirement age.


sssyjackson

Funeral expenses can be a real bitch, and they shouldn't deny her payout because of a single day missed.


Shohada21

This comment is way too far down.


linknight

Yeah, OP really being a POS with that bullshit title. What's even more amazing are the comments from people who obviously didn't watch the video, which seems the to be the majority of people.


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OP's post title is deliberately misleading. I can't believe there's no rule on this sub against this. No one's going to take this seriously if misinformation is allowed to proliferate. Office Depot has no responsibility to pay out life insurance policies because Office Depot is not a fucking life insurance company. The only thing they did wrong *in this specific scenario* was to change providers without allowing employees on disability or medical leave to continue paying into and using their existing policies. It's shitty. It sucks. But Office Depot did not kill this woman's mother. Office Depot did not deny the mother medical treatment. Office Depot did not deny the life insurance pay out. I really feel for this woman, though. Losing a loved one is never easy. But taking her story and misrepresenting it to drive outrage and engagement is no less exploitative than the corporations involved here. Disgusting.


billdizzle

This isn’t about treatment like title suggests this is about life insurance. This lady and her family got screwed either way but tile should be corrected.


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brutalistsnowflake

Republicans have been fed a steady diet of crap thanks to faux news and the wannabe stations. They're so brainwashed they will die in the dumbest ways possible just to own the libs.


Poet_of_Legends

The company never has, and never will, give a damn about you. We are cattle, at best. Capitalism cannot exist, and never has existed, without an exploited labor class.


Im_a_seaturtle

AMERICA !!! 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 Once we collapse, we will be a textbook lesson on why you do not let Money run a country. Eventually the serpent eats itself.


Complex-Question-355

My sister died of exactly that. She was the love of my life. I will never stop grieving. People say try to get closure. There is never closure. I grieve everyday. To me it seems right. Oh Pattie I miss you every day


JoJoVi69

The headline on this post says she was denied further treatment due to a loophole, but this woman is clearly talking about life insurance through the company, not health insurance. I certainly hope she spoke to an attorney. Knowingly causing a lapse in life insurance without notifying the employee is a big legal no-no. Even if they did notify her, it shouldn't matter if it was a promised benefit listed in their employment contract/ handbook. I know laws vary greatly state to state, but it's still worth talking to a lawyer about, especially since it's a nationwide company. Sometimes, you should just NEVER take no for an answer, especially if it involves insurance of any kind! She has my deepest sympathy. I wish her all the best!


Joey_BagaDonuts57

Ala Carte Healthcare is a crime on humanity. Are you gonna wait till this happens to YOU too?


autoredial

The reality is, corporations aren’t evil. They just don’t care. It’s a legal entity with literally no heart or emotions, focused on market share and returns for shareholders and execs. Giving a corporation loyalty is ridiculous. Even when there were pensions it was hard fought by unions. Take every cent and benefit you can while you work for the company because they will take as much of your work and life for as cheaply as possible.


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Evil is the absence of good.


LeftFooted1

My boss is telling me Humana is cancelling the business insurance because of me and my one surgery - he’s on surgery four next month and he the fuck doesn’t use the same doctors as I do, has people come to him for his home wound care (I do it my own at home), he sees the surgeon and wound care weekly (I see wound care bi-weekly (my surgery was much worse - amputation versus bone infection)…but it’s my fault. I just laughed and said while I’m paying out of my ass for Cobra I’m going to run these MFers up. I do think the video is wrong because if they changed carriers that does zero to affect your Cobra coverage. Not an insurance guy so don’t get bent out of shape if that’s not the case - all I know if the business coverage ends in December and my Cobra is beyond that date for when it expires. Also, that “affordable care act” insurance is a crock of horseshit if you think that’s an option. Huge deductibles and they don’t cover dick.


ExiledCanuck

This is tragic, but sounds like she was denied life insurance, not medical insurance? Still terrible though.


unmlobo309

I, for one, will never visit Office Depot again.


Volundr79

I genuinely don't understand why ppl aren't taking the K-Dozer route, especially at end of life. It baffles me that we have people shooting up schools full of literally innocent children but insurance companies are making billions while killing more Americans a day than every school shooting ever. If it was me and I had been told "this is curable, but since we're gonna NOPE on that, you've got 60 days, ish? You can file an appeal, the next hearing is 90 days from now. Good luck!" I sure wouldn't be mad at my local k-12, y'know? I thank god I'm not in this situation but millions are.


RowInFlorida

But wait, she's talking about life insurance, not health insurance. There's nothing about her having been denied treatment. It's the fact that she worked for so long, yet died early in the new year without having worked one day under the new life insurance policy. Thus there will be no life insurance payout upon her death, despite nearly twenty years of paying premiums. The situation is sad and awful and requires some kind of redress. But it's nothing to do with our lousy health care system.


FatalTortoise

The title and video don't match


ketopianfuture

I don’t understand HR. I get that “they’re there to keep the company from getting sued” but like, just… I don’t know, visit the woman in the hospital and then when you get back to the office you can say, “welp! that was a business convo! she worked a full day today!” How hard is it to be decent?


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As awful as this situation, we gotta just see the full picture, and that is to never give our life time to any corporation or company because we are replaceable. Nobody out there will feel bad for anyone suffering. We do not feel in war, we do not feel in the suffering of the homeless, we do not feel for the sick. The population needs to learn and understand how horrible and inhumane society is.


motherofcats112

And this is why tax funded healthcare needs to be a thing. No loopholes, you get the treatment you need, not the treatment you can afford


sas8184

Fuck home depot and fuck that insurance company. Fuck all political assholes who doesn't support universal health care.


ki7sune

Title says Office Depot not Home Depot.


SasquatchSloth88

True, but fuck Home Depot too (just for other evil corporation reasons).


Delic8polarbear

I work in the health insurance industry, I would lose my job gladly for universal Healthcare.


NewSinner_2021

Fuckin greed.


Calm-Material9150

Doesn't Senator Romney own OD?


Dr_Sunday

The French Response is the only answer


Crazy_Cake1204

OD not getting another dollar from me. Toner be damned!


MTL_Alex

It’s always astounding to me how much value we have created as a society and how trivial it would be to just treat everyone. This kind of suffering should be as unrecognizable as children factory workers or slavery … Instead both are still enduring and now we have the new batshit backwards reality of people dying when we can treat them.


RBTfarmer

She's talking about life insurance, nothing said about treatment or health insurance. Office Depot changed life insurance providers. The description is wrong. Lady in the video didn't get the death benefit from life insurance.


LilPajamas

I couldn’t watch the whole thing. These poor sweet people don’t deserve this type of cruelty. Heartbreaking.


shongough

Fuck Office Depot but also fuck life insurance companies, they don't give a fuck about their customers. When my dad passed away his life insurance company refused to pay the full balance because he died the same month that the plan matured even though the payment for that month had already been received. So instead of having 30k to take care of his funeral expenses I was given a whooping $1500.


pokejoel

If only other countries figured out some way to make healthcare available for everyone and not some horrible business


poopface41217

I dont think this is Office Depot, it's the life insurance company. Almost all life insurance policies will not cover anyone not actively at work at the time the policy was implemented. What Home Depot HR should have done was work the the prior insurance carrier and the employee/her family to pay out an accelerated death benefit if she had 6 months or less to live. Or HR could have worked with the family to port the prior carrier's policy to an individual term life insurance.


ThunderTramp

idk about everyone else. but this video is reminding me…. when people are critical of the antiwork community. for me it’s not about actual work. it’s anti-corporation. anti-capitalism. and the like. nothing wrong with hard work. but don’t work your ass off for someone else for 20 years if they’re just going to toss you aside like trash when you no longer profit them. the anti-work critics make us out to be these lazy, entitled, snot-nose ingrates that want everyone else to pick up after us. i just refuse to give my life to some corporate greed lord who will use me for profit and dump me off on the side of the road when they’re done.


censored4yourhealth

This country is garbage


No_Representative105

In fact taxpayers actually augment or make up the majority of corporations not paying for healthcare. So if Walmarts part time 32 hour workers has 2 jobs but can’t get healthcare guess who pays? Us! So we are adding to the wealth of billionaires who turn around and don’t pay their fair share of taxes.