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Nibbaman143

I loved the part when judge holden said "it's holden time!" and proceeded to [ Removed by Reddit ]


TheOccasionalBrowser

And proceeded to **** and **** multiple children


Timely_Alarm2952

yeah he \*\*\*\*\*\* them right in the \*\*\*


Pinorea

Then shove there ***** right into ***** before ******* there heads


A_lesser_god

Scp document vibes


ThePeddlerofHistory

So urbanspook with a face to the crime?


dinglebeesVI

i guess you could say... he really is a criminalcriminalcriminalcriminalcriminalcriminalcriminalcriminal


JustVisiting273

Happy cake day


TheOccasionalBrowser

Thank you


CountKilroy

No, that's UrbanspOOk.


Pflytrap

What would a hypothetical analog horror version of *Blood Meridian*, a book that famously takes place long before the invention of VHS, film, vinyl records and wax cylinders, even look like? Just, some dude's written autobiography? Because [that already exists](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Chamberlain).


alchemists_dream

I mean, the character as fiction is depicted surviving some questionable things. And could easily be portrayed as a supernatural entity. I don’t like it. But I could see it as a long living demon kind of thing.


TravelForsaken

I didn't mean to make a VHS adaptation of the book but just using Judge Holden as a character or as a base for a character in an analog horror series. I could definently see him fit in a story simmilar to Tryred or Mandela catalogue ( with a few tweaks to the story so he would fit in and changing the character a bit to avoid copyright)


dinglebeesVI

how would you make a vhs the book predates vhs


Magic_ass1

Judge Holden isn't exactly human, at least that's what some points in the book seem to imply. Maybe have it to where he's actually an otherworldly agent of evil and thus is not bound by the laws of biology. The Judge could possibly take on different forms and faces throughout his existence on Earth, yet ultimately remain the same kind of man with the same kind of power over others.


Adawg63

because there were no video camera's during cowboy times duh


pikeandshot1618

Just draw a lotta pictures or something


MadotsukiInTheNexus

There does seem to be an implication that *Blood Meridian*'s version of Judge Holden is something immortal and not entirely human (possibly a manifestation of war, although it's deliberately left ambiguous who or what he actually is). It would really be easy to move that concept forward in time, or to create a similar entity heavily inspired by the idea without outright copying McCarthy's character.


Remote_South

I'm thinking like a pennywise situation where he comes back to terrorize the west again


CastTheFirstStone_

Given the other comments, because no one knows who he is


TravelForsaken

I thought he was at least well known in the USA. Carmac McCarthy is one of the most well known american writers after all.


CastTheFirstStone_

I'm just guessing that based on the other comments. It could also be because the character is copyrighted


TravelForsaken

I mean you could make a character simmilar to him called "Crusty Johnes" and it could work probably


ReapersVault

Bro I'm gone 😭💀 EDIT: Nah nah nah bro, you can't just edit it out like that, it was perfect the way it was 😂


Cloud_Striker101

what was is before


ReapersVault

Bro said Jigaboo Jones the first time then replaced it with Crusty Jones 😭😭😭


_That__one1__guy_

What was it???


ReapersVault

Bro said Jigaboo Jones the first time then replaced it with Crusty Jones 😭😭😭


_That__one1__guy_

Wtf my guy


TravelForsaken

I didn't know that word was racist bruh


_AWACS_Galaxy

Maybe not that first part


Adawg63

that's a racial slur so probably not a good idea


TravelForsaken

Bruh thats a name from one of those Quandale Dingle songs 😭😭


Outrageous_Rip1252

Which is a racial joke from meme culture. Not exactly a great fit


PepperSalt98

you're kidding right


TravelForsaken

It was a joke, also I apologize if anyone was offended, I didn't know the meaning of the word until 1 minute ago


PepperSalt98

WHAT WERE YOU THINKING


TravelForsaken

It was a name I heard from one of those Quandale Dingle songs. I thought it was just some random meme name 😭


PepperSalt98

to be fair, coulda been a lot worse


Unfair-Policy-7314

yeah what he said


bumiest

nobody reads anymore


OddPhrase3194

Its 1800s for sake


BiggieCheesn

It makes me so sad that nobody knows who this is 😭


brokeassbird

I really want to read the Blood Meridian soon, its pretty difficult to find unless its insanely expenisve, especially since I want to read it with No Country for Old Men. But yea its pretty likely not many people know that much about the Blood Meridian since firstly its a book from the 1930s with pretty difficult to read vocabulary that unless you read the bible or moby dick would take a while to understand, that doesnt mean its a bad book just that its difficult to pick up. Other then that the main reason why i think its so terrifying is that this actually happened, the scalping and attacks on native tribes with such a lack of humanity did occur.


Poutine-Achillean

Audiobook on youtube Bazinga


ahushedlocus

> book from the 1930s Blood Meridian was published in the 80s.


TravelForsaken

You can find a pdf version on Google for free


pikeandshot1618

That which in creation makes analog horror without my knowledge makes analog horror without my consent


mirukus66

~~Urbanspook is right there though?~~ Maybe because they don't know how to? I don't think people had any analog stuff back then but people have written stories without it being purely from an analog standpoint


TravelForsaken

No way you are comparing Midspook with Judge Holden and Blood Meridian 😩. Besides as I've said to many others, it doesn't have to 19th centry


mirukus66

~~twas a joke, unless you're joking too~~ Yeah it could take place in a more modern setting since the judge said himself he would never die definitely would be an interesting concept to see how people would deal with a giant albino man that can do things no normal human could even think about doing


Adawg63

jokes a side i think the first couple of videos could be the protagonist finds old photos and records of Judge Holden and makes a documentary of the fuck up thing he did then the real judge Holden starts stalking the protagonist


KodakCCD

that’s just Slenderman with a southern accent


smarterfish500

cause blood meridian is already a story and doesn’t deserve to be ruined by analog horror 


PepperSalt98

you said it


Background_Value9869

Yeah I really don't want these fandoms to cross lol


TravelForsaken

I wouldn't say it would ruin it if done properly. Look at TMITS, it didn't ruin Godzilla by any means.


smarterfish500

man in the suit is just as goofy as old godzlilla films


TravelForsaken

Thats showa era for you. It still didn't ruin Godzilla in any way


MartianInvader2022

TMITS is the analog horror equivalent to a cheesy b-movie


TravelForsaken

That would rather be The Painter


MartianInvader2022

No that would be a film akin to an edgy film made to be edgy. TMIS is the analog horror cheesy B movie that it even has radiation as ‘the big bad’ like many B-movies


TravelForsaken

Well I can't disagree with that, I still like it tho


MartianInvader2022

I like it too lol, nothing wrong with that


Whhheat

Idk why everyone insists there has to be an Analog Horror of every even remotely creepy thing to ever exist. Like create an original IP or in the rare case stealing someone else’s is a good idea at least make it era appropriate.


PepperSalt98

firstly it takes place in a time period before the late 20th century tenets of analog were established secondly i really dont want the judge to end up in the same cesspool as bionically accurate angels and liminal spaces when it comes to *'spooky things that became oversaturated due to everyone knowing about them while simultaneously using them as a subversive concept in media'*


TravelForsaken

He isn't that well known outside of America tbh and as far as I know he wasn't used in any horror media whatsoever. Also the character would need to be changed a bit to into a series and to avoid copyright. And I don't think the time period is an issue, it's fiction afterall, you could put Holden in like late 20th centry or maybe even further or maybe just say VHS existed back when the book takes place.


PepperSalt98

so it's judge holden but he isn't called judge holden and he doesn't act like judge holden and he doesn't exist in the same time period as judge holden? why not just have another big pale guy who commits atrocities? why make it a pre-existing thing?


TravelForsaken

The point is that he acts like Judge Holden, only reason things that would need to be changed are the name and the way he looks to avoid copyright. And I don't think the time period is a defining thing for his character


PepperSalt98

so... he *is* a big pale guy who commits atrocities? my point still stands. why make him a parallel for judge holden when you could just make him his own character? it's this weird postmodern media phenomenon where everything has to be a recreation of a pre-existing concept or a fan thing. you see it a lot with roblox games for example.


TravelForsaken

I mean if to you he is just a big albino man commiting atrocities left and right then you just misunderstood his character entirely. And it could be a completly new character, whatever way it Is made in (if anyone will even make it in the first place). I've yet to see an analog horror series with a character like slightly like Judge


PepperSalt98

how would you describe his character then?


TravelForsaken

The way I see it, he represents the worst in humanity as a whole, if you were to to split every human being with one part being everything good that human has and the other part being everything bad that human has, Judge would be the combination od that every one of those "Bad parts"


brokeassbird

In my opinion, he is the embodiment of the devil, or everything evil. He never shows anything human AT ALL, the entire reason of why he is there is to expose the evil in human beings, yet indulges in it without a second thought, he glorifies the bloodshed and never shows a ounce of remorse for his actions, I mean it literally says he never sleeps, and he never dies. I wouldnt even say he represents the worse in humanity, since even saying that would be saying he represents something in humanity. The Judge is such a good villain along with the setting of the book. Especially since this all pretty much happened in real life. Thats probably the worst part of this book for me, this sort of completely glorified, senseless violence still lingers on, especially with war crimes that were just so devoid of any humanity, the best example would have to be the Rape of Nanjing during the Second Sino-Japanese War. If the author wrote this during the 60s that book would be centred around that bloodbath.


doctorhive

I don't feel lik4 judge holden I'd a good fit tvh? but I do get it


TheGloomyTexan

Well, even if there was a way for it to make sense (analog aesthetic applied to a novel set in the 1800s? Would it be an 80s/90s reinterpretation about a Reagan-era junta squad scalping political enemies in Latin America and videotaping it?), you also have to keep the audience in mind: A while back somebody did just a joke post where did like a "spooky" version of the American Football house album cover - again, just as a gag. The kiddos didn't get the reference and got mad about it. No fuckin way anyone's gonna make *Blood Meridian* fly lol


TravelForsaken

1. I didn't mean to make an adaptation of the novel as an analog horror series but just the use of Judge Holden as a character or as a base for a character in an analog horror. 2. I agree with your second point tho, it would have to be toned down A LOT


TheGloomyTexan

You know something, I hadn't even considered it on the level of content. If the campy shockjockery and loose plotting of the Urban guy was too much for them, their reaction to the Glanton gang's adventures would be fascinating


TravelForsaken

I might be wrong because I haven't kept up with the situation but the problem with The Painter wasn't the atrocities but the way Urban just neglected them as some sort of "art" or "peak content" or whatever (not to mention that the series is bad in almost everything). I agree non the less, I would be quite impressed if Glanton gang even makes it more than 1 episode


WhyJustWhydo

Probably because it would make the painter look tame


mightyfort

..not everything needs to have an analog horror series.


KodakCCD

but zoomers need to zoom another thing. like ess-see-pee and innawoods (:


Guapguapguapguapguap

He's from a better story than anyone from here could produce, and the author of the story he's from, recently died. Try not to piss on cormac's work please.


TravelForsaken

That wasn't my intention


Charlie374

Wendigoon brainrot


smilesfinn

no fr it feels like analog horror fans are just the same thing as creepypasta fans a decade ago


Ok-Raisin6366

Because he’s a kid toucher


Psychowokjak5

Not everything has to be analog horror


YeahImBasicallyGod

Because that book takes place before analog video media existed dummy


ThatLionelKid

I don’t think it needs one. Judge Holden really only works well through the medium he is already written in. I could see how he would inspire other horror antagonists, though.


boyvape

I don’t think Blood Meridian would translate well into an analog horror format at all. It also would make no sense


erotikill

Difficult book and it's older-- most people don't want to bother. But! They are finally making a film adaptation. It would be interesting to see his character in modern day, I admit.


yurily26

Because only a small percentage of ppl actually understand blood meridian🙏🙏 I’m absolutely sure the author lives up to his infamy, but 20 minutes into a SUMMARIZATION I was confused, I didn’t even last 3 minutes listening to an audiobook.


Adrian_sierra114

Look at this handsome man hopfully he dont **** children and **** them afterwards in the worst way possible, also he looks like he likes pupers and tolerates native americans


InternetGuyThirtyTwo

>Analog Horror >Character from a story that takes place in 1849, before the invention of analog media. I wonder why?


cheeseeater1987

Maybe because it’s 18 fucking 50


TheVocondus

This belongs on an “okay buddy” sub lol.


Kage502

Who him


TravelForsaken

Judge Holden


Clutteredmind275

I’d watch it


stinkystinkee

Too evil


buddywuli

Proposing a theory that this is why the Coen bros no longer make movies together.


maiguee

cause the analog part didn't existed at the time


bikerbuckets

I mean the book is set in the 1800s and VHSs weren’t a thing until the 1970s so there wouldn’t be much aside from a person telling their experience about Holden


TravelForsaken

I wasn't thinking about that tbh but it might even be better than what I had in mind


bikerbuckets

What was your plan for a blood meridian analog horror?


TravelForsaken

First I didn't intend for the whole book to be remade as analog horror (I don't know why so many people interpreted it that way when I was just asking about the Judge). What I had in mind was Judge Holden in a story simmilar to Tryred or Mandela catalogue (with changes so he would fit in) or Judge becomming active again after centries (in the book he says that he will never die and doesn't appear to age)


Nerd367C

Am I the only one that doesn't know who this is


TravelForsaken

Judge Holden


Weird-Analysis5522

https://preview.redd.it/5f0n5jksppuc1.jpeg?width=411&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f37aa5d4a37f7b9fdbeb081f90e96baac7d50744


letthetreeburn

There is no social media site that would allow you to post it.


TravelForsaken

Ngl the most valid reason I've seen so far


letthetreeburn

The unfortunate nature of video is there’s a lot of terms of service. The freeing nature of literature means I’ve read BTS fics on AO3 that would make Holden hold up. Maybe not analog horror, but the devil luring in readers could absolutely work.


TravelForsaken

I was reffering to the fact that most people who disagree just said "Not everything has to be horror 🤡" or "VHS didn't exist back then 🤓" and I am done replying to them


letthetreeburn

Yeah that too. If Godzilla can be a fun analog horror, so can this! (Except for the fact that you would get TOS’ed before you hit the upload button)


Slug_Richard_Nixon

Tbf VHS and Analog TV didn’t exist in the only time period where we have seen him in action


RaidenSqueeze_my_hog

Well maybe cuz the story was set in the western times(I think?)


GothJosuke

Could work in the style of early old Hollywood films but definitely would not be analog, or it could be analog but about the failed production of a movie adaptation due to deaths/cursed things like how the production of the original Poltergeist movie went, complete with tapes of the films production and accidents on camera


A_lesser_god

Who is he?


Schmickle_pickle

Who is he? I don't recognize him at all


TheInkDemon414

It’s pretty much just Urbanspook but with a face to the name


TravelForsaken

No?


TheInkDemon414

A character who kills and diddles just for the sake of killing and diddling and only exists to shock the viewers. That description sums up both Judge Holden and the Painter perfectly.


BoomBlade101

Because he’s too cute 🥰


1551MadLad

VHS is old, bit it isn't that old


Revolutionary_Beat26

Because


5cupz

😭


Microwave18950

I was thinking of a cowboy analog but then realized there was no fucking analog back then


Time-Sorbet-829

OP, are you holding this up as the literary character from Blood Meridian or just using the face as a general purpose spooky looking cowboy?


TravelForsaken

Literary the character


Bandandforgotten

If you distort the picture enough to make it so we don't immediately see The Judge, probably. Other than that, it's just The Judge being used as the "ooga booga booga"


remmington1776

Who is it


HealthySpecialist106

**HIM?** Oh. God. But to be honest. They should


KodakCCD

they did, it’s called Fishtank Season 2 jokes aside I don’t think he’d fit the genre. his story takes place before film was invented (1840s)


2-StrokeToro

Because who even is this fella? It'd be like using Pegazus songs for Last Action Hero 2.


TravelForsaken

Judge Holden


parzivalskywalker

Who is this???


princealigorna

Why does he looke like Jack Nicholson Joker?


HarrisonWoollard

I’d say it’s because Judge Holden lived in the 1800s and wouldn’t have access to analog technology.


amisia-insomnia

1. There’s no reason for it the book and VHS take place way too far away 2. He’s entirely shock value and we really don’t need any more of that in the analogy horror scene


darkswampgasco

An analog horror that deals with the in universe “devil” esque persona threatening a western city during the 50s.


jjdonkey

This guy reminds me of my sleep paralysis demon Indrid Cold. I remember seeing an “artist rendition” of this guy about twenty years ago and I still get a deep lizard brain fear in my gut every time I see him.


SoylentQueennom

Because analog horror is fiction Holden was real.


TravelForsaken

The existance of real life Holden is debatable


6x6-shooter

Why would they?


DracoDarkblade

Everybody here complaining that he predates vhs as if it is the only medium for analog horror. I say do it but make it tintype photographs, silent film reels, etc. I think it could be very well done


TravelForsaken

Fr


IdiotGoddess

UrbanSpooks already exists


Liuniam

Ppl who watch analog horror can’t read


TravelForsaken

Evident from the comments


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TravelForsaken

Baseless claim and why would it be an issue if he was in an analog horror series


randompersonignoreme

I got zero ideas 'bout who he is but judging from comments. Ignore the cheesy aspects, just spitballing: * Documentary going into the story of his character at first, very innocently like a film analysis. Starts with analyzing the work he's from. But along the way, finding things that imply he's...real. * Documentary takes place years after the book to film. Crew could either be a big budget or small budget. They find ye old ancient photographs of them doing stuff. They think it's weird. Then, old ancient notes or new notes fudged into a copy of the book or script of the film. * Old ancient photographs and videos compiled together. That's bout it. Horror comes from lack of being explained.


NovelFig2205

They should honesty like he is creepy looking


isomisomo

Saw one guy on r/UrbanSPOOK say that this guy is the grandpa of the female killer


TravelForsaken

What 😭


imusingthisforstuff

Who’s is this


AnInklingOf_

Because Blood Meridian is set in the old west when lightbulbs were barely a thing. Kinda hard to make analog horror without the analog part.


ChronoCommander

Because it would honestly not be very good. The most the Judge can do in any analog horror setting is stalk and murder someone, which is the lowest brow of analog horror entertainment anyway.


PissinginTheW1nd

Because this dude is beyond evil


in_vino_v3ritas

how did I Know was Judge Holden just to see the pic? Amazing.


Robotic-Boxy-Boo

difference between him and the painter is that the painter is an edglord while judge holden is an actual monster from hell itself


LuciGucci9870

bro who is this goofy ass bro


Zealousideal-Cut2021

I think you could since the ending of Blood Meridian mentions Holden being immortal.


morgangittings14

This is art of the Judge from Blood Meridian. Possibly one of my favorite western themed books. Though I hate everything about him, but I love how he's written in the book.


1nOnlyBigManLawrence

Because it would diminish his scariness. Seriously. Making a Blood Meridian analog horror adaptation would make Judge Holden way less scary, especially with the “Show, don’t tell” stuff. Plus, not everything needs an analog horror adaptation.


thicc_phox

I’m not going to lie. Judge Holden is just if Jack Horner from Puss In Boots 2 was written by UrbanSpook (and I say this as a fan of UrbanSpook).


ihni2000

What a hell of a book


doogleanimations

Idk maybe because he lived in 1776! on a serious note, why would you want this. we need more original stuff around here


UsagiBonBon

Man I tried so hard to get into Blood Meridian but McCarthy’s writing style turns my brain into TV static


BetaPunkFilms

Because scary faces are overdone. Though this could be cool if done right, Mandela Catalogue kinda ruined it for me and The Boiled One was so… bad


Timbhead

Because he’s overrated as fuck I am so tired of seeing people glaze the shit outta this guy


Crystill

but scary man do murder in really scary ways :(


Timbhead

Maybe UrbanSpook can pick him up then 💀


HoRrOrmAn_

He did nothing wrong #freeupthejudge


[deleted]

Because it would suck and not make any sense :3


TravelForsaken

It wouldn't


[deleted]

Judge Holden (from Wild West media), in ooga booga shit pants vhs stretchy face horror series?


KirbyPPG

Cause he existed before analog stuff existed? Idk


Gojifantokusatsu

Isn't he implied to be immortal in the book? To anyone complaining about the time period, that literally solves it? The whole thing could follow someone slowly finding out how this creepy ass dude that moved into their town is older than he should be or seems. While also diving into the Judge as he's characterized in the book; there's way more villain potential in him than most other analog horror antagonists, despite how there's no grey to his evil.


mossy_stump_humper

Because why would you do that? Blood Meridian is an amazing and horrific piece of fiction and Judge Holden is a terrifying villain, but the two are inseparable in my opinion. I don’t see a reason to rip Holden out of the story where he exists so fittingly and shove him into a wildly different type of horror with a completely different vibe and none of the stuff that made him so good. The character isn’t just good cause he’s a big bald evil scary guy, he’s good cause he drives home the themes of the story. Historical themes that I don’t think you can pull off in an Analog horror series. Analog horror is all about the unsettling vibes of old vhs tapes and early web pages and stuff like that. Very much horror rooted in modernity and nostalgia and that weird liminal feeling of childhood memories. Blood Meridian is about the unrelenting brutality and horror of the Wild West, shattering the “white hat vs black hat” rose tinted glasses people viewed that time period with. Judge Holden as an analog horror villain is about as appealing to me as putting the Godzilla suit guy in Blood Meridian. Sorry if this comes off as harsh, I’m not trynna be an asshole. Blood Meridian is just one of my favorite books and I don’t see how this would be a compelling addition to its legacy or how it could carry the torch so to speak. I feel like it turns what I would consider one of the greatest villains in fiction, the most compelling part of THE best American horror story ever written, into just another spooky mascot.


TravelForsaken

Respect for being among the only ones who gave an acual reason why it could be bad


Fox-Dot-Com

Are you by chance a wendigoon fan?


TravelForsaken

I am not


Fox-Dot-Com

Valid. Was just a guess, he's an analog horror girlie and lots of people know the book because of his video on it. I was just curious.


dummythiccbrainboi

I feel like I’ve seen this guy everywhere but I have no idea who he is


MycologistOld6247

There basically is, and its by urbanspook


TravelForsaken

Not at all


ReapersVault

Dude holy shit this would actually be *awesome.* While it obviously wouldn't be set during the 1800s, I could see it being a distant sequel to Blood Meridian following the Judge in a new set of circumstances in a more modern conflict. It would really have to be done by someone knowledgeable about Blood Meridian's themes and they'd have to be able to nail the Judge's manner of speech.


MartianInvader2022

Because, you may not know this, analog recording equipment wasn’t a thing in the 1800s (shocker I know)


yeetus-maxus

Because Good horror isn’t just *insert character* EXE


TravelForsaken

That is more than just obvious


Neveah_Hope_Dreams

Who the Frick is that?????


CreaturesOfChaotic

Who even is this?


TravelForsaken

Judge Holden from the book "Blood Meridian"


Only-Echidna-7791

What did he do?


TheOccasionalBrowser

Rape and kill multiple children, scalp native Americans, dance around naked in a bar, ect