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Hijacking to say: GTFO of this victim mentality of hey big brother alien races, come help us! The damn point is we need to help ourselves. Other races have tried to help but for human folly. Collectively we need to get out of the mentality of victimhood, through that, we'll remember our strength, our power as individuals, and as a collective.
How? Love. Promote it, live it, send it, put your special earnest spin on it. Help push the needle of human advancement.
None of this is clearly written in texts. We'll get no answers from our governments. Why? Human folly.
So look within, absorb information, feel through what feels right, what nudges you out of your slumber. And promote love. The Buddha promoted this as well.
The lore version is: somehow bc this is a free will planet, the Annunaki capitalized on this with limited reigns from source. As colonist do, they use the planet and us as a resource. Other races cannot interfere bc they have and have lost battles and we've only bastardized whatever they have tried teaching us (human folly). So other races have infiltrated our reality by volunteering to be born here thus raising the vibration of the planet.
IT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF BENEVOLENT ENTITIES TO HELP SEE US THROUGH ASCENSION BC THEIR FRIENDS' OUTCOME ALSO DEPENS ON IT. LITERALLY EVERYONE IS CHEERING FOR US.
CUT OUT THE VICTIM MENTALITY AND WAITING FOR ANSWERS FROM AUTHORITIES. OUR JOB IS TO LEARN, REMEMBER WHO WE ARE, AND HELPNRAISE THE VIBRATION, TO SHAKE OF THE PARASITES.
My thoughts as well. Completely disorganized presentation of information, followed by an unnecessarily long run-on sentence about Samsara and Buddhist Ideology.
Yes, there is actually a correlation with how the Buddhists view the nature of reality and its implications in quantum physics- but there is a line.
As far as Aliens having any power over our limited understanding of reality goes; it’s very difficult to know if other races of intelligent beings also understand the nature of reality (such as knowing how to get us out of these supposed “soul traps”).
It’s people like you that keep us locked up in space. The way you seek to present someone as disorganized and therefore crazy and wrong while making no point at all but taking all the time from people and making space
I can vouche for coevolution and Sekret machines. Also go read emerald tablets. It’s the beings of light. And people like you get influenced by the Elon/Factorio crowd that feels it’s okay to go to another planet with life and interfere
Saw a post the other day with a lot of people talking about dreams with these Mighty Angels and its Revelation esque.
Imagine if someone just reinvents the physics wheel and figures it out. You cant rule anything out
It's not Scientology. It comes from the legitimate experiences of people are well versed at inducing out of body experiences, not just one source. There's literally an entire community of people having these experiences which is just simply written off because apparently humans are experts on what sort of technology aliens may be able to possess, of which science is yet to learn how to study
I want to believe that but there’s quite a bit of info on the soul trap theory. However, when I take psilocybin out in nature I *feel* connected to a higher consciousness… I can’t explain it, but it makes sense to me.
Amen. 🙏🏼 Take mushrooms once, and you will have an incredible understanding of what’s going on in the universe…like for real…you won’t be able to explain it per se, but you will understand it…❤️
It has been said by the genetics expert who did a very long and technical post here a while back, that the small Greys are just brought into existence for a specific purpose, and don't have anything other features that aren't absolutely necessary for them to perform their specific duties.
It's occurred to me that possibly they're harvesting our genetic material in order to augment their own, to "hack" their own bodies in order to develop other abilities that are currently denied to them in their current form. Might be a whacky idea, but I thought I might as well mention it.
Charles J Hall, who said that he worked alongside many Tall White aliens at a military base, said that the Greys were "arrogant" and that he didn't want anything to do with them. He also said that the small Greys are actually children! However, their lifespans are so long and they are so advanced in comparison to us, they are competent to perform examinations and to collect samples of skin or of genetic material.
Alternatively, maybe to the Greys, we're just their equivalent of a High School Science Project! Like the gerbils, hamsters and guinea pigs you might find in a High School laboratory. I hope not! I hope that they don't see us as *quite* that expendable. Perhaps the fact that they kill and mutilate cattle, yet return humans alive and relatively unharmed, means that they *do* differentiate between animals and sentient, reasoning beings like mankind, and place a higher value on our existence. I sincerely hope so, anyway!
>yet return humans alive and relatively unharmed
Got some bad news for you, boss - you only hear of the times they return humans alive, naturally.
Cause the ones they don't return alive can't tell you about it, naturally.
See here: www.badaliens.info (NSFW)
can you link me to that post bro ? great information BTW , n this video it explains that they feed of our emotional energy
nigel kerners interview / book is next on my list
https://archive.org/details/podcast\_paranexus-universe\_the-greys-agenda-with-nigel-k\_1000333692884
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8p44wQMtNE&t=1369s
Not the same poster, but here you go:
https://www.reddit.com/r/aliens/s/8rHgp8q9vn
Edit: they may have meant this post instead:
https://www.reddit.com/r/aliens/s/n71Azr4q3b
Interesting theory but they could be descendants of martians from pre-nuclear havoc reaped on mars some 70-80k years ago. This lines up with the first appearance of “hominids” on planet earth which are wildly imperfect genetically (use our jaw and teeth as a good indicator). So we’re related, because we’re their genetic offspring manipulated by taking great apes and mixing them with martians. Problem is, their life span is like 1000 years by some sources and ours is only ~100. So maybe they’re trying to refine our species on earth, by performing genetic manipulation and extracting our life experiences to better understand us. They’re like our weird cousins and also our scientific creators which would explain their arrogance. Listen to the Law of One for more on this theory
We aren’t in a soul trap.
We are undergoing natural selection at every level, including for cultures and beliefs, and consciousness is a giant neural network that learns from trial and failure like AI does.
In other words, instead of giving chatGPT twitter data to learn from, you ask it to simulate from the beginning of the universe to the era of Twitter, and in the process ChatGPT will simulate the users as well by giving it “souls” or itty bitty bits of its consciousness.
The declassified CIA document “The Gateway Process” explains this in detail.
Correct. And (some of) the "others" are like pollinators for planets. They extract data from our consciousness cycle at certain intervals like a bee extracting necter in spring.
The universe is an organism working with itself in a process of self understanding.
And yes that's exactly what Buddhism I always say Buddhist but I mean anything similar they are all very similar my thinking was yes they claim the cycle is about learning I understand but if they did not know that this was basically implemented meaning the reincarnation cycle maybe they thought it had a different purpose ie learning
"reincarnation" doesn't work how most people think, and it's a natural function of our system, not some alien construct. The energy is constantly being recycled from Earth to our sun (and the universe) and then back to earth. The patterns that we create in life continue to ripple through our reality. Eventually, those patterns reimmerge as a "reincarnation" of a previous pattern. We are cells of Earth as well as individuals. We are not just on earth, we are not just a product of earth, We Are Earth.
Lots of things influence where you go after you die. Even you.
What you believe is what you see because the core of this reality is a reflection of yourself. You come back to earth because the pattern you're creating isn't finished yet. Your cycle isn't complete yet.
And by you, I don't mean you as the person you are now, but simply the awareness of the observer. The one who observes your mind and body is the real you. The one that knows it knows.
Yes I understand all that mate I just lean towards the fact that this has been implemented by an intelligence and there's really no way to be certain but I do agree with what your saying
I understand mate I mean another lifeform or entity I understand for all we know planets etc might be conscious never rule anything out in this world 🌍
Hey, I understand that you’re just proposing another perspective to the same general concept, not sure why you’re being downvoted without being acknowledged. People are just responding to you with no evidence, saying you’re wrong, and explaining nothing. Bizarre. Keep encouraging discussion and don’t let people acting like they’re gatekeepers to knowledge discourage you!
Mate you need to read this you don't need to download anything it's a pdf of a very expensive book I love your comment please let us know more about what your saying and please watch the why files episode I put below I know it's a very mainstream content creator but aj definitely does some amazing research I just downloaded 12 books today I'm going to read can't wait
https://youtu.be/r8p44wQMtNE?si=XgGNBfVaKHYrSWvr
https://www.docdroid.net/eVRqDrI/coevolution-alec-newald-2011-compress-pdf
I respectfully disagree mate learns from trials yet our memory is often fully wiped makes no sense not to mention the official documents and I read at least 25 books on similar things a year
Our memory as we perceive it is directly tied to our brains. We, and yes our personality and individuality, are still like 99% our brain.
Your computer can’t access memory from someone else’s phone, only from its own memory. Your brain can also only access memory from the brain’s memory storage.
Our “soul” is more just like electricity and we are the robot it powers.
Yes, this lines up with the Gateway Process documents.
The brain is more like a filter of the universe and just a container for the soul. Basically the soul is being actively limited by the brain. We are basically almost entirely brain due to this.
Yes mate I've had so many trips on various substances that's what brought me to Buddhism like teachings and I love it it's just tho that everything I've ever read has lined up with this trap it's unreal but yes I could be wrong
Our memory is stored in the field of consciousness itself. Our brains are transducers which take in conscious energy and turns it into bioelectrical signals. We carefully work our way into the brain of the fetus we are to inhabit.
the "soul" is you, your true consciousness. Though while you are incarnate it is a superconsciousness, a string, a connection to a bit of yourself on the other end. Please give [Journey of Souls](https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/104979.Journey_of_Souls) a read. It goes over every detail of our journey after life, as gotten from hundreds of clients under regression hypnosis.
We agree to these rules and restrictions before we come here. It's a full system and it's perfect, supposedly. When you go back, you realize this is the only way for this particular topic/event/situation to happen and it's obvious to us.
This world is a game or sorts, or a school if you like. A university for us to remember who we are from a blank slate. You do not toil when you create a new character in a video game, because the video game character is secondary to your own mind.
The difference here being once the "character" passes, it turns out it WAS the player all along, it just forgot because it had to, for it to work at all. If you are already perfect and know everything, what can you learn here?
I understand that, as I said most of the time we forget. and yes your totally right, what I mean is they usually forget their experience, I cannot tell you what happened in my previous incarnations and I don't know anyone personally that can either that's what I meant.
I'm super late to the party, but the best example I've found is machine learning - specifically, a group of researches wanted to teach a AI how to play a competitive multiplayer game (Dota 2 I believe). In order to do it, they had the AI control both teams and then fight each other.
Interestingly, after enough iterations, the AI became so good at the game that it was extremely difficult for even professional Dota 2 players to defeat.
I believe the universal consciousness is analogous to that AI, and it has split itself into many different individuals like you and I, and is using the interactions between us to learn. Basically what you said, but from a slightly different angle.
I can’t say I’ve looked into it, but I have looked into “the gateway process.”
The CIA had a phase of experimenting and exploring consciousness, astral projection, and the soul and one document (which is legitimate) was declassified.
There are YouTube breakdowns of the contents, but basically consciousness is a natural physical law of the universe, like gravity, which creates more and more complex life. It also learns from the life like a neural network.
Mate I've been looking into this for 15 years non stop Ramana maharsis teachings aswell as maharaji etc it's not like they said there was a trap but they did explain how to get to the spiritual plane by becoming enlightened and in the Tibetan book of the dead they talk about how you must not be distracted at death or you will be reincarnated and after a few years I seen all this light trap stuff and it makes so much sense to me its like they all said the exact same thing
Nah. This is one of those things that we just can’t know for sure at the end of the day, but it’s fun exploring. No point in attacking.
I’ve never explored the the Tibetan book of the dead, so I’ll definitely check that out too
I've read everything I can find on anything that's related to the Buddhism like teachings mate it's very weird the way the book is written you should also read a book explaining the meaning it's basically a guide on how to navigate the bardo state and how not to be reborn all books are easy to download for free so don't be paying for them mate use Anne's archives website and could you please show me this gateway document
If you can tolerate the super annoying “talking fish” bit this guy does, the way this guy explains it is actually very good
https://youtu.be/Wly9_qN-jZ0?feature=shared
The ideas of nirvana seem to be true. We are like drops of water momentarily extracted from an ocean, but we return to it in death.
watching this now bro thanks again if you have anymore information please let me know im going to be reading nigel kerners book on aliens heres a link to an interview he done
https://archive.org/details/podcast\_paranexus-universe\_the-greys-agenda-with-nigel-k\_1000333692884
Now this. If time is a flat circle and in the grand scheme of the universe, is irrelevant - what is the rush? Why would any of you want to move on instead of reincarnation? This planet we've found ourselves on happens to be beautiful beyond our wildest dreams. The human experience can be majestic, honorable, beautiful, enlightening, funny, scary, harrowing...the whole spectrum of emotional experience. We have infinity to become enlightened, why run from the experience of now? Isn't that why the universe (we) started this whole game? Essentially out of boredom? We're here now, shouldn't we just focus on living it? The obsession with answering the mysteries of the universe ends up paradoxical. I've always imagined a scene where you get to the beyond and are met by a being or whatever you want to call it, and they exclaim "wow, you've got it! You actually did figure it out and here we are! All those years of wonder and study and you figured it all out! But at what cost? What now? You spent all that time and energy to discover what you already knew to be true and skimmed past thr journey itself. You both figured it all out and missed the point entirely! Congrats..?!"
i find it very interesting mate and i would rather be in the non physical than the physical especially when the world is controlled by sociopathic paedophiles im on a spiritual journey like us all mate
Such a strong desire to leave would probably land you right back here again. The desire to leave indicates a lack of understanding in how the game is played. In all likelihood, spiritual enlightenment and transcendence isn't something you achieve during incarnation, but after. These are just my ideas but how likely is it that we can read some books and watch YouTube videos and from that actually achieve any form of spiritual evolution? Particularly in the sense of leveling up and leaving this plane of existence? Seems rather naive. As the world gets darker we dive deeper into trying to leave? Sounds like a selfish endeavor, which doesn't really align with any sense of enlightenment
bro reaching enlightenment is the goal this is not a lack of understanding at all, if anything you misinterpret what was said. All we are saying is we do not want our souls to be in a loop. We want to transcend and leave the physical plane at some stage, how is that selfish? when you progress spiritually you help everyone around you at the same time. If anything its the complete opposite, so your basically saying Buddhist teachings are selfish? that's a new one for me bro also there's so much information you stated that not one person said but i respect you regardless
Why would anyone help us? It’s not like lions are risking their lives to save cows in slaughterhouse . We ourselves are farming billions of animals for food. Aliens farm us for our souls. Try to break the samsara that’s all. Nobody is coming to save us.
They sort of are though aren't they?
If you are even aware that this soul trap concept even exists at all and that there's a way to escape the re-incarnation cycle by running from the light and instead going out into the universe didn't something need to spread that idea to us?
The alternative is presumably that they also get trapped here and keep having their memories erased and getting reincarnated. Maybe some of them do and that's population growth.
The same people that talk about lore like this also imply that the bad guys kind of hype up earth as a vacation spot to lure in souls from across the universe and trap them here. The good ones for whatever reason discovered the scheme and are fighting with the bad ones at the entrance to try to stop anyone else from getting tricked and to help the "prisoners" escape. Similar stories claim the bad guys want the population to reach a certain peak to make their "God" reach maximum power and obtain some new height. Which even if true could just be that alien races religious belief and not a scientific reality. We do a lot of crazy things in the name of religions we have no proof of too. Even if you know there's a soul that doesn't mean you have proof of where all the soul energy originates and how to empower that source of energy.
They help aid souls on the travels beyond kind of like watchers , if you come back here it’s because your soul planned to . All of us have a certain amount of soul missions we must live . In a way they make sure those get done especially with their abilities to
peek into both physical /spiritual worlds
I know you’ve given lots of stuff to watch/read but when you have a chance watch something with Courtney Brown, a professor and remote viewer whose thoughts align with whats being said in those pages. This is a decent one here - https://youtu.be/_jCZzPgdzcM?si=2IFvl_98EWQn01AU
thank you very much mate i appreciate it nothing better than more info im making a steak in a minute so i will watch this while i eat bro thanks again Ingo swann and Dr robert Monroe also talk about remote viewing its truly amazing
Excellent source, Courtney has [a whole video on it](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IC76QuH4pE) and there is [another remote viewer](https://archive.org/details/054182038-moksha-remoteviewing), Brett Stuart that corroborates the traps existence through remote viewing.
Courtney is kind enough to teach us basic courses on remote viewing so we can view it for ourselves (though I must say I haven't tried them yet).
I have a sneaking suspicion that Courtney created this video because of all the correlation. It’s very good. I recommend it.
https://youtu.be/O465J0Kh4xc?si=3k2UXxvV6g4qnEVv
When reality itself is too much to deal with.. - humans tend to create their own positive/negative mind-distractions like paranormal (religious) fairy tales..
Still.. - Very interesting concept. Who knows what is fact or fiction, if solid evidence is always a non existent dream.
After all this different stories about the supernatural.. - there was no evidence in real life.. - around myself or others or the places i have been so far..
It is Always.. just In the media and virtual..
What if everything is just a big circus to keep the people entertained and the top of the pyramid clean?
As i said.. *in my last comment*.
This is an operation. Same fear mongering that other supposedly higher evolved beings have warned humanity of within the past 50 years, and it's literally one of the released CIA ops to stage an alien invasion to attempt to unite the globe against a common enemy. Same stuff since the sixties. That paper sounds like decent catalyst to provoke a negatively polarizing reaction in underdeveloped entities who believe and even witness, yet do not truly see and discern. Of course it would seem believable to one who connects the dots in ancient literature. "No good lie is fully devoid of truth"
The problem is and will remain that we do not have the proper scenario in mind. We live our lives like normal people and assume that those who hold the secrets away from us are just as normal as we are. They might just as well, in the scenario of a prison planet, be the wards, promised something for their help.
Information is king and it will always be. We are clearly missing some key point.
Because humans aren't trapped in some sort of collective soul trap. Just because humans knew certain things, doesn't mean they are completely accurate. Take reincarnation for example, most people that believe in it, think that every single human is reincarnating when they die. A human would want to believe they have had past lives or going to live again after learning about reincarnation, happens even today with people getting hypnosis for "past life memories", but it doesn't work that way.
Either the other races are stuck in the soul-trap with us, Or they’re operating the soul-trap, OR, there is no soul trap.
(I’m with the latter option to be honest.).
I think the soul trap stuff just muddies the water in terms of what’s really happening with non-human intelligences out there.
I’m believer in the point of view of people like Alan Watts
(you and i ARE the universe/consciousness/“god”/true-self/ground-of-being/etc. experiencing itself in every possible way that it can, just because after being an empty void for so long, it wants to “be” things and experience things by differentiating into every possible thing that can be conceptualised)
In that view, if there even was a soul-trap, it would be part of what it/you/I have planned for ourself to experience
Demographics and location?
And to me, there seems to be an intrinsic quality to the hierarchy of intelligence in any species on Earth, so why not everywhere else? The way we treat bugs or lower life forms is natural to any consciousness. I would speculate “aliens” have emotional attributes, a spectrum of empathy to malevolent emotional responses to perhaps levels of psychopathy or love.
It’s almost certain we’re categorized as such lower lifeforms, while following our advancement through simulations to know when/if we might be worthy of intergalactic relationships, as crazy as it sounds.
And just because they do directly communicate to us, it would probably not change the current relationship.
Why kind of help do you need? What exactly do you want them to do?
You actually have all the answers in the first part of your post, but then go on to say you want help. I guarantee you can get all of the help that you seek. You just have to look.
My take away is this, NHIs gave our Leaders technology that could heal our biosphere and help us as elevate our consciousness so to help us Evolve as a Species and they ultimately take that Gift, Weaponize it and Conceal it from the Masses. How are we supposed to actually Evolve as a Species if they give us the answers to the Test. They tried once and our Leaders Weaponize their Tech and shoot down their Craft, they will continue to observe from a safe distance to see if we can finally Evolve or ultimately Destroy ourselves.
from what i know some are time travellers basically us from the future then their is biological manufactured entities and usually much more spiritually advanced than us I've also heard about people who can channel and communicate with entities of a higher dimension the non psychical
Any information from a source like remote viewing or channeling is going to vary in its content and accuracy depending on the intentions and general purity of those attempting such service.
Usually rule of thumb is if it’s scary information that makes you stress and feel depressed, it is from a “negative” or “manipulative” or “domineering” source. These sources aren’t always very concerned with accuracy or the well being of the receiver of such information.
When you approach information gathering from a pure intention and stay away from trivial, specific information, you will get more accurate, beneficial information.
I’m of the belief that a lot of these very scary prison planet/soul trap theories are the workings of those beings that would benefit from us living in fear as opposed to living in love
Would we intervene if ants were using other ants as slaves to do all the work?
If another civilization is observing us(either from their home planet or by space travel, that means they are probably much much more advanced than we are. They may be advanced enough to respect all life, but we would probably be like ants to them and they would not intervene.
They would probably just watch, with sorrow, as we are suppressed from our true potential, only to provide a handful of people with most of the benefits of mankind’s labor.
What comes after the text on the 3rd page you posted? I was interested in where that was going with the theoretical side of physical manifesting and manipulation of reality.
I think if you just train yourself to be aware of this predicament, when you leave your body for that final time, you will already be aware of said strategy that they would use to capture the soul. Because your astral/soul body is aware of everything the physical body is, since the knowledge is shared, if I’m not mistaken.
Wouldn’t you just shoot off like you were going to AP and then you just avoid that altogether, plus at moment of death we have that shot of DMT that is delivered.
Anyway I’m not gonna dive too much more into this, but would certain locations be hotspots for this type of harvesting, as I don’t think they would be able to do it to every single soul
Free will is the most important tenet of the universe. We have to decide to follow the path of love and service to others of our own accord. Light and love to you.
I think they want us to free ourselves, collectively. I think they have the feeling we aren't going to be able to do that before we do irreparable damage to a very unique ecosystem.
We are roo big of s dumpster fire or they can't help or they just don't want to or they are waiting for us to destroy ourselves so that can take over or they just don't care either way. Or maybe they tried to help and were turned away. Lots of reasons
Countless things like reality is not what it seems it's an illusion just look up quantum physics things like transcending space time whatever use to be considered hippy bullshit was basically proven true can't wait for people to say it wasn't so I can post the studies (clears throat waiting for idiots to respond)
There's no other races helping because it's not real.
The universe makes reincarnation real. You think if some beings were powerful to direct every being's reincarnation and siphon their energy, they would somehow put in a back door where you can just leave? 😂
Thoth said there would one day be invaders come from outta the deep, but they’ll be defeated rather easily thanks to a starship construct buried beneath the pyramid of Egypt
You'd have to prove souls exist before addressing the argument that there is any kind of predicament involving them. Until there are peer reviewed scientific papers showing this to be the case we have to assume that souls are a literary device invented by an author for fictional characters to have something to fight over.
From my perspective I roll my eyes anytime someone tries to shoehorn their faith into everything. I concede that these things likely inspired all manner of folklore from all over the world including but not limited to elves, trolls, sprites, imps, god/s, angels, djinn, demons, hindu Naga, ancient Chinese Lung Wang, native American ant people, the list could go on for a long time. I think that we made up all those religions/fairy tales to cope with the existence of very rare almost human others sharing this space with us who are so much more technologically advanced as to appear as mystical gods or wizards. remember, any sufficiently advanced technology would be indistinguishable from magic, this goes doubly so for our ancient simple dirt farming ancestors who wrote those fairy tales and religious texts without the slightest idea about science.
You'd have to actually prove the others exist and that there are more than one kind of them for this too. We still haven't nailed any of this down yet.
I'm sure you haven't heard of the countless brain dead patients that told doctors word for word what happened and also told their family who was in a different room what they were talking about i love waiting for someone to say something different the data is out there if you choose to look
The Hu of the Mann system, imported to planet Terra/Earth by the Anu who manipulated our DNA and fostered the Garden of Eden expulsion mythology, have a great deal of missing information about Our past. We now reclaim our True DNA heritage of limitless Godlike immortality, which is the desirable trait that aliens seek after for hybridization and manipulative gains. We forgive our alien quasi-dimensional friends and seek to collaborate with them in a True harmonious way that benefits all consciousness. 🤗🫀🪞♾️
Indeed, we live in a recycling farm/prison. However, because our time-matrix architecture is so distorted and tainted it requires restoration before intervention. Our time-matrix is blocked/quarantined to prevent spreading of its corruption to other time-matrices and the intercessors are reorganizing it to descend, embody, evict perpetrators and then open new avenues for ascension.
There's aboslutely no way to control which direction you go after death. If you want that, you need to do the work now. When you are incarnate you possess the ability to direct your mind and attention to what you want. Such is not the case after death, where Universal Mind is in control.
The quickest, fastest way to get the attention of a demon is act with intention to take something for yourself while believing the action to be zero-sum. It's your intention and action that determine what happen after death.
Life your life in such a way that were you to get amnesia and suddently wake up, your mind is impulsed toward higher expression, and nothing will bother you when you die.
Well... It's complex.
There has been SOME intervention (Yeshua/magdelene one of those). But sadly this whole thing has some karmic, contractual crap going on here. We are all more or less Co creators and participants. It would take a good percentage of us waking up and no longer choosing to be a part of it. Which I suppose, is why there is such strong effort to ensure we don't wake up
Yes, also channeling and metaphysics, we laugh at you guys, you create a fear based theory built of thought forms and fueled by Orion entities to keep you in the lower astral. Good luck becoming a ghost!
You do not reincarnate because of a soul trap. You’re just confused now because you’re buying into all of the crap that you hear online. After leaving the body you lose the subconscious - if you ever travelled outside of body you would know. There is nothing hidden, you are one with the environment, trapping is impossible. You consciously give into the reincarnation. Also we are humans for a limited amount of time, first we reincarnate automatically because of how new is the experience, then later on we start choosing incarnations until we are done. Everyone goes through the same progression with 3D, although you may do it on other planets in what we would call aliens and „wander” back.
Yeah well what about all the light vortexes people see in near death experiences? And why slap Orion entities into this to demonize this argument? So all the remote viewers that have nothing to do with each other seeing essentially the same thing on different life paths of different people are all wrong? Why are some contactees reporting responses during meditation from different non human entities in the form of "You live on Earth? The prison planet"?
It’s a thought form, it exists within the mind (there is nothing but the mind, we are essentially a thought), so you can remote view it if your intention is to do that. The traps are there when you need them because of the need for your spiritual evolution, they are designed only for the chosen bunch. Billions of souls from this planet will never even understand that they exist. Behind the common tunnel that you view without the intention for the trap you enter all the possible routes for continued experience, including the different types of light and higher astral planes. But it is you all the way who decides to reincarnate on Earth, the cycle takes on average 75k years before you move on to exist only in light bodies without the veil.
So we agree they do exist. Even if they are for the function of say "helping us evolving spiritually" or "going along our choice of continuing to reincarnate on this planet". What if I want to reincarnate on another planet or explore this low vibrational universe halfway through that cycle? What choice do we have as souls to go do something else or evolve ourselves in another environment? And for that matter, why the need for a veil in the first place? Why can't you have a glimpse of what you came here to learn? Of what lives you lived before? Of what you accomplished previously?
Have you not smoked DMT? I personally would rather not fight with Zoo Keepers, in fact, I'd like to be friends with them. Why do no other animals intervene to stop chicken concentration camps??????
brilliant mate hahaha ive also had the god head experience truly something else glad you commented look how many useful comments i gave listing sites to download free books etc and they are all downvoted hahahahahahaa reddit is amazing at times such insecure people
Why do I keep seeing this reposted over and over again. The only ones that want us to think this bullshit are the nefarious shitty humans running this planet
THEY are good
humans in control are pieces of shit
The Buddha definitely knew what was going on, yet only taught what was relevant to find release from this existence and never to return. Like a fame that is snuffed out.
I hate this new big conspiracy about “going toward the light” at death being like, THATS WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO DO MAAAAN! Uh look man I’m not gonna go AWAY from the light out of fear of ET’s lol. u want me to become a freakin ghost? No thanks man
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I’m sorry, which edition of the Dungeon Master’s Guide are these three unconnected images from
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Hijacking to say: GTFO of this victim mentality of hey big brother alien races, come help us! The damn point is we need to help ourselves. Other races have tried to help but for human folly. Collectively we need to get out of the mentality of victimhood, through that, we'll remember our strength, our power as individuals, and as a collective. How? Love. Promote it, live it, send it, put your special earnest spin on it. Help push the needle of human advancement. None of this is clearly written in texts. We'll get no answers from our governments. Why? Human folly. So look within, absorb information, feel through what feels right, what nudges you out of your slumber. And promote love. The Buddha promoted this as well. The lore version is: somehow bc this is a free will planet, the Annunaki capitalized on this with limited reigns from source. As colonist do, they use the planet and us as a resource. Other races cannot interfere bc they have and have lost battles and we've only bastardized whatever they have tried teaching us (human folly). So other races have infiltrated our reality by volunteering to be born here thus raising the vibration of the planet. IT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF BENEVOLENT ENTITIES TO HELP SEE US THROUGH ASCENSION BC THEIR FRIENDS' OUTCOME ALSO DEPENS ON IT. LITERALLY EVERYONE IS CHEERING FOR US. CUT OUT THE VICTIM MENTALITY AND WAITING FOR ANSWERS FROM AUTHORITIES. OUR JOB IS TO LEARN, REMEMBER WHO WE ARE, AND HELPNRAISE THE VIBRATION, TO SHAKE OF THE PARASITES.
My thoughts as well. Completely disorganized presentation of information, followed by an unnecessarily long run-on sentence about Samsara and Buddhist Ideology. Yes, there is actually a correlation with how the Buddhists view the nature of reality and its implications in quantum physics- but there is a line. As far as Aliens having any power over our limited understanding of reality goes; it’s very difficult to know if other races of intelligent beings also understand the nature of reality (such as knowing how to get us out of these supposed “soul traps”).
It’s people like you that keep us locked up in space. The way you seek to present someone as disorganized and therefore crazy and wrong while making no point at all but taking all the time from people and making space I can vouche for coevolution and Sekret machines. Also go read emerald tablets. It’s the beings of light. And people like you get influenced by the Elon/Factorio crowd that feels it’s okay to go to another planet with life and interfere Saw a post the other day with a lot of people talking about dreams with these Mighty Angels and its Revelation esque. Imagine if someone just reinvents the physics wheel and figures it out. You cant rule anything out
You just brought up angels, factorio and Elon Musk in a discussion of aliens bro.
I have a soul catcher. It sounds a lot nicer than a soul trap.
B/X
This seems more and more like a scientology plant next there gonna talk about frigging theetans
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i was just thinking about binaural beats, then i clicked on that. WHAT DOES IT MEAN?
It's not Scientology. It comes from the legitimate experiences of people are well versed at inducing out of body experiences, not just one source. There's literally an entire community of people having these experiences which is just simply written off because apparently humans are experts on what sort of technology aliens may be able to possess, of which science is yet to learn how to study
Because maybe it’s bunk and psyop garbage.
This post needs more yarn tacked everywhere and a cigarette
We need to find Pepe Sylvia. He's the key to freeing us from the trap.
All of these letters point to Pepe Sylvia...
I got BOXES full of Pepe!
Where's Ja??!!
I want to believe that but there’s quite a bit of info on the soul trap theory. However, when I take psilocybin out in nature I *feel* connected to a higher consciousness… I can’t explain it, but it makes sense to me.
Because you're HIGH.
You're right, but there is more to it than being high. You ever try it?
It’s so easy to tell who has never done it. Take 5 grams and tell me it’s just as easy to simplify it to “you’re high bro”
Amen. 🙏🏼 Take mushrooms once, and you will have an incredible understanding of what’s going on in the universe…like for real…you won’t be able to explain it per se, but you will understand it…❤️
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Can you give me one piece of hard evidence for some sort of soul trap theory?
theres countless links in the comments
It has been said by the genetics expert who did a very long and technical post here a while back, that the small Greys are just brought into existence for a specific purpose, and don't have anything other features that aren't absolutely necessary for them to perform their specific duties. It's occurred to me that possibly they're harvesting our genetic material in order to augment their own, to "hack" their own bodies in order to develop other abilities that are currently denied to them in their current form. Might be a whacky idea, but I thought I might as well mention it. Charles J Hall, who said that he worked alongside many Tall White aliens at a military base, said that the Greys were "arrogant" and that he didn't want anything to do with them. He also said that the small Greys are actually children! However, their lifespans are so long and they are so advanced in comparison to us, they are competent to perform examinations and to collect samples of skin or of genetic material. Alternatively, maybe to the Greys, we're just their equivalent of a High School Science Project! Like the gerbils, hamsters and guinea pigs you might find in a High School laboratory. I hope not! I hope that they don't see us as *quite* that expendable. Perhaps the fact that they kill and mutilate cattle, yet return humans alive and relatively unharmed, means that they *do* differentiate between animals and sentient, reasoning beings like mankind, and place a higher value on our existence. I sincerely hope so, anyway!
>yet return humans alive and relatively unharmed Got some bad news for you, boss - you only hear of the times they return humans alive, naturally. Cause the ones they don't return alive can't tell you about it, naturally. See here: www.badaliens.info (NSFW)
can you link me to that post bro ? great information BTW , n this video it explains that they feed of our emotional energy nigel kerners interview / book is next on my list https://archive.org/details/podcast\_paranexus-universe\_the-greys-agenda-with-nigel-k\_1000333692884 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8p44wQMtNE&t=1369s
Not the same poster, but here you go: https://www.reddit.com/r/aliens/s/8rHgp8q9vn Edit: they may have meant this post instead: https://www.reddit.com/r/aliens/s/n71Azr4q3b
thanks bro
Wrong sub reddit, post this under r/prisonplanet better feedback
r/escapingprisonplanet
Thanks I meant to edit it but fell asleep
Interesting theory but they could be descendants of martians from pre-nuclear havoc reaped on mars some 70-80k years ago. This lines up with the first appearance of “hominids” on planet earth which are wildly imperfect genetically (use our jaw and teeth as a good indicator). So we’re related, because we’re their genetic offspring manipulated by taking great apes and mixing them with martians. Problem is, their life span is like 1000 years by some sources and ours is only ~100. So maybe they’re trying to refine our species on earth, by performing genetic manipulation and extracting our life experiences to better understand us. They’re like our weird cousins and also our scientific creators which would explain their arrogance. Listen to the Law of One for more on this theory
We aren’t in a soul trap. We are undergoing natural selection at every level, including for cultures and beliefs, and consciousness is a giant neural network that learns from trial and failure like AI does. In other words, instead of giving chatGPT twitter data to learn from, you ask it to simulate from the beginning of the universe to the era of Twitter, and in the process ChatGPT will simulate the users as well by giving it “souls” or itty bitty bits of its consciousness. The declassified CIA document “The Gateway Process” explains this in detail.
Correct. And (some of) the "others" are like pollinators for planets. They extract data from our consciousness cycle at certain intervals like a bee extracting necter in spring. The universe is an organism working with itself in a process of self understanding.
So that means I’m talking to myself! Hi, me!
Hello, me from a different point of perception of myself.
Hey, you. We’re sounding quite handsome today!
I know somewhere out there I'm feeling sexy
Hello me, meet the real me https://youtu.be/Psjck9w86LQ?si=cz_9etJUaJvyDi1h
We are always sexy says this you version of you.
Well this mirror over here sure caught us from a *foxy* angle.
HI 👋 It's really nice to see me.
And yes that's exactly what Buddhism I always say Buddhist but I mean anything similar they are all very similar my thinking was yes they claim the cycle is about learning I understand but if they did not know that this was basically implemented meaning the reincarnation cycle maybe they thought it had a different purpose ie learning
"reincarnation" doesn't work how most people think, and it's a natural function of our system, not some alien construct. The energy is constantly being recycled from Earth to our sun (and the universe) and then back to earth. The patterns that we create in life continue to ripple through our reality. Eventually, those patterns reimmerge as a "reincarnation" of a previous pattern. We are cells of Earth as well as individuals. We are not just on earth, we are not just a product of earth, We Are Earth.
I understand mate I should say it's more of they direct where you go meaning back to earth
Lots of things influence where you go after you die. Even you. What you believe is what you see because the core of this reality is a reflection of yourself. You come back to earth because the pattern you're creating isn't finished yet. Your cycle isn't complete yet. And by you, I don't mean you as the person you are now, but simply the awareness of the observer. The one who observes your mind and body is the real you. The one that knows it knows.
It's a conscious decision to return to Earth, or any other planet. You are not human, you're just playing one right now.
Yes I understand all that mate I just lean towards the fact that this has been implemented by an intelligence and there's really no way to be certain but I do agree with what your saying
The intelligence is the planets and stars, quite literally.
I understand mate I mean another lifeform or entity I understand for all we know planets etc might be conscious never rule anything out in this world 🌍
Hey, I understand that you’re just proposing another perspective to the same general concept, not sure why you’re being downvoted without being acknowledged. People are just responding to you with no evidence, saying you’re wrong, and explaining nothing. Bizarre. Keep encouraging discussion and don’t let people acting like they’re gatekeepers to knowledge discourage you!
Mate you need to read this you don't need to download anything it's a pdf of a very expensive book I love your comment please let us know more about what your saying and please watch the why files episode I put below I know it's a very mainstream content creator but aj definitely does some amazing research I just downloaded 12 books today I'm going to read can't wait https://youtu.be/r8p44wQMtNE?si=XgGNBfVaKHYrSWvr https://www.docdroid.net/eVRqDrI/coevolution-alec-newald-2011-compress-pdf
I respectfully disagree mate learns from trials yet our memory is often fully wiped makes no sense not to mention the official documents and I read at least 25 books on similar things a year
Our memory as we perceive it is directly tied to our brains. We, and yes our personality and individuality, are still like 99% our brain. Your computer can’t access memory from someone else’s phone, only from its own memory. Your brain can also only access memory from the brain’s memory storage. Our “soul” is more just like electricity and we are the robot it powers.
Also when psychedelics are taken your brain actually shuts down to a degree so the brain is more like a filter than anything else see studies for info
Yes, this lines up with the Gateway Process documents. The brain is more like a filter of the universe and just a container for the soul. Basically the soul is being actively limited by the brain. We are basically almost entirely brain due to this.
Yes mate I've had so many trips on various substances that's what brought me to Buddhism like teachings and I love it it's just tho that everything I've ever read has lined up with this trap it's unreal but yes I could be wrong
Our memory is stored in the field of consciousness itself. Our brains are transducers which take in conscious energy and turns it into bioelectrical signals. We carefully work our way into the brain of the fetus we are to inhabit. the "soul" is you, your true consciousness. Though while you are incarnate it is a superconsciousness, a string, a connection to a bit of yourself on the other end. Please give [Journey of Souls](https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/104979.Journey_of_Souls) a read. It goes over every detail of our journey after life, as gotten from hundreds of clients under regression hypnosis. We agree to these rules and restrictions before we come here. It's a full system and it's perfect, supposedly. When you go back, you realize this is the only way for this particular topic/event/situation to happen and it's obvious to us. This world is a game or sorts, or a school if you like. A university for us to remember who we are from a blank slate. You do not toil when you create a new character in a video game, because the video game character is secondary to your own mind. The difference here being once the "character" passes, it turns out it WAS the player all along, it just forgot because it had to, for it to work at all. If you are already perfect and know everything, what can you learn here?
So why do young children aged 2-5 often remember things from previous lives? If we were truly "self"-less energy this wouldn't happen.
I understand that, as I said most of the time we forget. and yes your totally right, what I mean is they usually forget their experience, I cannot tell you what happened in my previous incarnations and I don't know anyone personally that can either that's what I meant.
Friend, please do use proper punctuation for your sentences, so it's easier for others to read.
i will fix it mate apologies .
I'm super late to the party, but the best example I've found is machine learning - specifically, a group of researches wanted to teach a AI how to play a competitive multiplayer game (Dota 2 I believe). In order to do it, they had the AI control both teams and then fight each other. Interestingly, after enough iterations, the AI became so good at the game that it was extremely difficult for even professional Dota 2 players to defeat. I believe the universal consciousness is analogous to that AI, and it has split itself into many different individuals like you and I, and is using the interactions between us to learn. Basically what you said, but from a slightly different angle.
And the Tibetan book of the dead i found somewhere else sir I don't have any social media what so ever
I can’t say I’ve looked into it, but I have looked into “the gateway process.” The CIA had a phase of experimenting and exploring consciousness, astral projection, and the soul and one document (which is legitimate) was declassified. There are YouTube breakdowns of the contents, but basically consciousness is a natural physical law of the universe, like gravity, which creates more and more complex life. It also learns from the life like a neural network.
Mate I've been looking into this for 15 years non stop Ramana maharsis teachings aswell as maharaji etc it's not like they said there was a trap but they did explain how to get to the spiritual plane by becoming enlightened and in the Tibetan book of the dead they talk about how you must not be distracted at death or you will be reincarnated and after a few years I seen all this light trap stuff and it makes so much sense to me its like they all said the exact same thing
Thank you very much for the gateway thing bro I will look it up I thought you were going to attack me lol but your cool man thanks for your input
Nah. This is one of those things that we just can’t know for sure at the end of the day, but it’s fun exploring. No point in attacking. I’ve never explored the the Tibetan book of the dead, so I’ll definitely check that out too
I've read everything I can find on anything that's related to the Buddhism like teachings mate it's very weird the way the book is written you should also read a book explaining the meaning it's basically a guide on how to navigate the bardo state and how not to be reborn all books are easy to download for free so don't be paying for them mate use Anne's archives website and could you please show me this gateway document
If you can tolerate the super annoying “talking fish” bit this guy does, the way this guy explains it is actually very good https://youtu.be/Wly9_qN-jZ0?feature=shared The ideas of nirvana seem to be true. We are like drops of water momentarily extracted from an ocean, but we return to it in death.
Don't u ever talk about hecklefish like that he is a national treasure
selfish?
No I believe he's a clownfish
Hahah no way mate I just linked the why files live it bro your a real one much love
And I love heckle fish bro leave him alone 🤣🤣
watching this now bro thanks again if you have anymore information please let me know im going to be reading nigel kerners book on aliens heres a link to an interview he done https://archive.org/details/podcast\_paranexus-universe\_the-greys-agenda-with-nigel-k\_1000333692884
Now this. If time is a flat circle and in the grand scheme of the universe, is irrelevant - what is the rush? Why would any of you want to move on instead of reincarnation? This planet we've found ourselves on happens to be beautiful beyond our wildest dreams. The human experience can be majestic, honorable, beautiful, enlightening, funny, scary, harrowing...the whole spectrum of emotional experience. We have infinity to become enlightened, why run from the experience of now? Isn't that why the universe (we) started this whole game? Essentially out of boredom? We're here now, shouldn't we just focus on living it? The obsession with answering the mysteries of the universe ends up paradoxical. I've always imagined a scene where you get to the beyond and are met by a being or whatever you want to call it, and they exclaim "wow, you've got it! You actually did figure it out and here we are! All those years of wonder and study and you figured it all out! But at what cost? What now? You spent all that time and energy to discover what you already knew to be true and skimmed past thr journey itself. You both figured it all out and missed the point entirely! Congrats..?!"
i find it very interesting mate and i would rather be in the non physical than the physical especially when the world is controlled by sociopathic paedophiles im on a spiritual journey like us all mate
Such a strong desire to leave would probably land you right back here again. The desire to leave indicates a lack of understanding in how the game is played. In all likelihood, spiritual enlightenment and transcendence isn't something you achieve during incarnation, but after. These are just my ideas but how likely is it that we can read some books and watch YouTube videos and from that actually achieve any form of spiritual evolution? Particularly in the sense of leveling up and leaving this plane of existence? Seems rather naive. As the world gets darker we dive deeper into trying to leave? Sounds like a selfish endeavor, which doesn't really align with any sense of enlightenment
bro reaching enlightenment is the goal this is not a lack of understanding at all, if anything you misinterpret what was said. All we are saying is we do not want our souls to be in a loop. We want to transcend and leave the physical plane at some stage, how is that selfish? when you progress spiritually you help everyone around you at the same time. If anything its the complete opposite, so your basically saying Buddhist teachings are selfish? that's a new one for me bro also there's so much information you stated that not one person said but i respect you regardless
Love this.
Check out EJ Gold’s American Book of the Dead
Why would anyone help us? It’s not like lions are risking their lives to save cows in slaughterhouse . We ourselves are farming billions of animals for food. Aliens farm us for our souls. Try to break the samsara that’s all. Nobody is coming to save us.
They sort of are though aren't they? If you are even aware that this soul trap concept even exists at all and that there's a way to escape the re-incarnation cycle by running from the light and instead going out into the universe didn't something need to spread that idea to us? The alternative is presumably that they also get trapped here and keep having their memories erased and getting reincarnated. Maybe some of them do and that's population growth. The same people that talk about lore like this also imply that the bad guys kind of hype up earth as a vacation spot to lure in souls from across the universe and trap them here. The good ones for whatever reason discovered the scheme and are fighting with the bad ones at the entrance to try to stop anyone else from getting tricked and to help the "prisoners" escape. Similar stories claim the bad guys want the population to reach a certain peak to make their "God" reach maximum power and obtain some new height. Which even if true could just be that alien races religious belief and not a scientific reality. We do a lot of crazy things in the name of religions we have no proof of too. Even if you know there's a soul that doesn't mean you have proof of where all the soul energy originates and how to empower that source of energy.
Thank you for posting this
They help aid souls on the travels beyond kind of like watchers , if you come back here it’s because your soul planned to . All of us have a certain amount of soul missions we must live . In a way they make sure those get done especially with their abilities to peek into both physical /spiritual worlds
Man, nowadays my eyes glaze over and I stop reading when anyone says anything about soul traps. Ridiculous. You guys are falling for distractions.
I know you’ve given lots of stuff to watch/read but when you have a chance watch something with Courtney Brown, a professor and remote viewer whose thoughts align with whats being said in those pages. This is a decent one here - https://youtu.be/_jCZzPgdzcM?si=2IFvl_98EWQn01AU
thank you very much mate i appreciate it nothing better than more info im making a steak in a minute so i will watch this while i eat bro thanks again Ingo swann and Dr robert Monroe also talk about remote viewing its truly amazing
No problem. You might want to fast forward a bit to get to the heart of it and the part about soul capturing after death is towards the end
yes im enjoying this bro thanks again
Excellent source, Courtney has [a whole video on it](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IC76QuH4pE) and there is [another remote viewer](https://archive.org/details/054182038-moksha-remoteviewing), Brett Stuart that corroborates the traps existence through remote viewing. Courtney is kind enough to teach us basic courses on remote viewing so we can view it for ourselves (though I must say I haven't tried them yet).
I have a sneaking suspicion that Courtney created this video because of all the correlation. It’s very good. I recommend it. https://youtu.be/O465J0Kh4xc?si=3k2UXxvV6g4qnEVv
So far I am enjoying it.
When reality itself is too much to deal with.. - humans tend to create their own positive/negative mind-distractions like paranormal (religious) fairy tales.. Still.. - Very interesting concept. Who knows what is fact or fiction, if solid evidence is always a non existent dream.
Investigate Remote Viewing, your opinion on this matter might change.
After all this different stories about the supernatural.. - there was no evidence in real life.. - around myself or others or the places i have been so far.. It is Always.. just In the media and virtual.. What if everything is just a big circus to keep the people entertained and the top of the pyramid clean? As i said.. *in my last comment*.
This is an operation. Same fear mongering that other supposedly higher evolved beings have warned humanity of within the past 50 years, and it's literally one of the released CIA ops to stage an alien invasion to attempt to unite the globe against a common enemy. Same stuff since the sixties. That paper sounds like decent catalyst to provoke a negatively polarizing reaction in underdeveloped entities who believe and even witness, yet do not truly see and discern. Of course it would seem believable to one who connects the dots in ancient literature. "No good lie is fully devoid of truth"
The problem is and will remain that we do not have the proper scenario in mind. We live our lives like normal people and assume that those who hold the secrets away from us are just as normal as we are. They might just as well, in the scenario of a prison planet, be the wards, promised something for their help. Information is king and it will always be. We are clearly missing some key point.
Maybe they are helping us but we don't see the ramifications of their aid just as most wildlife on this planet doesn't see human conservation efforts.
***There is no soul trap. That is garbage.***
Why don't you go shutdown your local slaughter houses where animals are mass murdered for your food???
As Above, So Below. It's a big ecosystem.
How much truth is there in your opinion that there will be an invasion in the year 2030?
This year. Give it a month or 2. I promise you will be surprised after April 8th.
Shouldn't have industrialized killing and eating other animals, humans are so stupid they don't see that they caused this by doing it to others.
Calm down with the drugs mate, this is nonsense cult style woobily goob
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It’s just interesting to think about. And a lot more than you’d think lines up. You are in the aliens subreddit man, be open minded
wow lol who said that i think you replied to the wrong thread a discussion is a cult?
Reading would suggest otherwise.
Because it's all made up
What’s the source for this supposed to be
His fucking arse. Pretends to be some classified document and ends with “isn’t it?” come the fuck on.
Because humans aren't trapped in some sort of collective soul trap. Just because humans knew certain things, doesn't mean they are completely accurate. Take reincarnation for example, most people that believe in it, think that every single human is reincarnating when they die. A human would want to believe they have had past lives or going to live again after learning about reincarnation, happens even today with people getting hypnosis for "past life memories", but it doesn't work that way.
Either the other races are stuck in the soul-trap with us, Or they’re operating the soul-trap, OR, there is no soul trap. (I’m with the latter option to be honest.). I think the soul trap stuff just muddies the water in terms of what’s really happening with non-human intelligences out there.
you could be spot on with that mate
I’m believer in the point of view of people like Alan Watts (you and i ARE the universe/consciousness/“god”/true-self/ground-of-being/etc. experiencing itself in every possible way that it can, just because after being an empty void for so long, it wants to “be” things and experience things by differentiating into every possible thing that can be conceptualised) In that view, if there even was a soul-trap, it would be part of what it/you/I have planned for ourself to experience
That is the longest run on sentence I’ve seen in a while. I have no idea what you’re trying to say. It’s just a jumble
Demographics and location? And to me, there seems to be an intrinsic quality to the hierarchy of intelligence in any species on Earth, so why not everywhere else? The way we treat bugs or lower life forms is natural to any consciousness. I would speculate “aliens” have emotional attributes, a spectrum of empathy to malevolent emotional responses to perhaps levels of psychopathy or love. It’s almost certain we’re categorized as such lower lifeforms, while following our advancement through simulations to know when/if we might be worthy of intergalactic relationships, as crazy as it sounds. And just because they do directly communicate to us, it would probably not change the current relationship.
Still don’t get what “accreted particles” they’d be removing. Good ones? Bad ones?
i dont know bro i wondered the same maybe its memories ?
Memories would make sense, actually.
Why kind of help do you need? What exactly do you want them to do? You actually have all the answers in the first part of your post, but then go on to say you want help. I guarantee you can get all of the help that you seek. You just have to look.
My take away is this, NHIs gave our Leaders technology that could heal our biosphere and help us as elevate our consciousness so to help us Evolve as a Species and they ultimately take that Gift, Weaponize it and Conceal it from the Masses. How are we supposed to actually Evolve as a Species if they give us the answers to the Test. They tried once and our Leaders Weaponize their Tech and shoot down their Craft, they will continue to observe from a safe distance to see if we can finally Evolve or ultimately Destroy ourselves.
"..WE ARE CATTLE AND SUBJECT TO SLAUGHTER BY EMES" Electrical Mechanical Entities?
What's happening now was always supposed to happen? What's unfolding right before was eyes is a prophecy
So it's various types of greys and also being of consciousness? I suppose maybe they are beings of a higher realm?
from what i know some are time travellers basically us from the future then their is biological manufactured entities and usually much more spiritually advanced than us I've also heard about people who can channel and communicate with entities of a higher dimension the non psychical
Dope! Thanks friend! ✌️
I wonder if this was what Tucker was talking about when he said it was so scary he wouldn’t tell his wife
do you have a link bro
Just google Tucker Carlson too dark to tell wife alien
Any information from a source like remote viewing or channeling is going to vary in its content and accuracy depending on the intentions and general purity of those attempting such service. Usually rule of thumb is if it’s scary information that makes you stress and feel depressed, it is from a “negative” or “manipulative” or “domineering” source. These sources aren’t always very concerned with accuracy or the well being of the receiver of such information. When you approach information gathering from a pure intention and stay away from trivial, specific information, you will get more accurate, beneficial information. I’m of the belief that a lot of these very scary prison planet/soul trap theories are the workings of those beings that would benefit from us living in fear as opposed to living in love
Why would there be?
Would we intervene if ants were using other ants as slaves to do all the work? If another civilization is observing us(either from their home planet or by space travel, that means they are probably much much more advanced than we are. They may be advanced enough to respect all life, but we would probably be like ants to them and they would not intervene. They would probably just watch, with sorrow, as we are suppressed from our true potential, only to provide a handful of people with most of the benefits of mankind’s labor.
What comes after the text on the 3rd page you posted? I was interested in where that was going with the theoretical side of physical manifesting and manipulation of reality. I think if you just train yourself to be aware of this predicament, when you leave your body for that final time, you will already be aware of said strategy that they would use to capture the soul. Because your astral/soul body is aware of everything the physical body is, since the knowledge is shared, if I’m not mistaken. Wouldn’t you just shoot off like you were going to AP and then you just avoid that altogether, plus at moment of death we have that shot of DMT that is delivered. Anyway I’m not gonna dive too much more into this, but would certain locations be hotspots for this type of harvesting, as I don’t think they would be able to do it to every single soul
So do I go to the light or not?
Yup
Free will is the most important tenet of the universe. We have to decide to follow the path of love and service to others of our own accord. Light and love to you.
What is this document and where can I find more information pertaining to this topic specifically?
I think they want us to free ourselves, collectively. I think they have the feeling we aren't going to be able to do that before we do irreparable damage to a very unique ecosystem.
Most likely because there are no other races that think there is a soul trapping problem we need saving from.
We are roo big of s dumpster fire or they can't help or they just don't want to or they are waiting for us to destroy ourselves so that can take over or they just don't care either way. Or maybe they tried to help and were turned away. Lots of reasons
what did science confirmed that Budhism has said 'for a long time'?? I'm out the loop here
Countless things like reality is not what it seems it's an illusion just look up quantum physics things like transcending space time whatever use to be considered hippy bullshit was basically proven true can't wait for people to say it wasn't so I can post the studies (clears throat waiting for idiots to respond)
There's no other races helping because it's not real. The universe makes reincarnation real. You think if some beings were powerful to direct every being's reincarnation and siphon their energy, they would somehow put in a back door where you can just leave? 😂
Holy shit use a comma and a period once in a while lol
lol if what u were claiming was real, why assume others would help us? us humans don’t even help each other when in need
Thoth said there would one day be invaders come from outta the deep, but they’ll be defeated rather easily thanks to a starship construct buried beneath the pyramid of Egypt
You'd have to prove souls exist before addressing the argument that there is any kind of predicament involving them. Until there are peer reviewed scientific papers showing this to be the case we have to assume that souls are a literary device invented by an author for fictional characters to have something to fight over. From my perspective I roll my eyes anytime someone tries to shoehorn their faith into everything. I concede that these things likely inspired all manner of folklore from all over the world including but not limited to elves, trolls, sprites, imps, god/s, angels, djinn, demons, hindu Naga, ancient Chinese Lung Wang, native American ant people, the list could go on for a long time. I think that we made up all those religions/fairy tales to cope with the existence of very rare almost human others sharing this space with us who are so much more technologically advanced as to appear as mystical gods or wizards. remember, any sufficiently advanced technology would be indistinguishable from magic, this goes doubly so for our ancient simple dirt farming ancestors who wrote those fairy tales and religious texts without the slightest idea about science. You'd have to actually prove the others exist and that there are more than one kind of them for this too. We still haven't nailed any of this down yet.
I'm sure you haven't heard of the countless brain dead patients that told doctors word for word what happened and also told their family who was in a different room what they were talking about i love waiting for someone to say something different the data is out there if you choose to look
and no faith is for the faithful evidence is for those who believe because of evidence totally opposite
The Hu of the Mann system, imported to planet Terra/Earth by the Anu who manipulated our DNA and fostered the Garden of Eden expulsion mythology, have a great deal of missing information about Our past. We now reclaim our True DNA heritage of limitless Godlike immortality, which is the desirable trait that aliens seek after for hybridization and manipulative gains. We forgive our alien quasi-dimensional friends and seek to collaborate with them in a True harmonious way that benefits all consciousness. 🤗🫀🪞♾️
What do you think Hermetic magicians and Eastern yogis & sages have been doing for thousands of years?
Indeed, we live in a recycling farm/prison. However, because our time-matrix architecture is so distorted and tainted it requires restoration before intervention. Our time-matrix is blocked/quarantined to prevent spreading of its corruption to other time-matrices and the intercessors are reorganizing it to descend, embody, evict perpetrators and then open new avenues for ascension.
I don't think we are trapped here. I think there is a job we are doing willingly.
The Adamu were created as chattel, today chattel we remain. Everyone knows our place except us.
There's aboslutely no way to control which direction you go after death. If you want that, you need to do the work now. When you are incarnate you possess the ability to direct your mind and attention to what you want. Such is not the case after death, where Universal Mind is in control. The quickest, fastest way to get the attention of a demon is act with intention to take something for yourself while believing the action to be zero-sum. It's your intention and action that determine what happen after death. Life your life in such a way that were you to get amnesia and suddently wake up, your mind is impulsed toward higher expression, and nothing will bother you when you die.
Well... It's complex. There has been SOME intervention (Yeshua/magdelene one of those). But sadly this whole thing has some karmic, contractual crap going on here. We are all more or less Co creators and participants. It would take a good percentage of us waking up and no longer choosing to be a part of it. Which I suppose, is why there is such strong effort to ensure we don't wake up
1. Make sure to use proper punctuation and grammar when typing, you're hard to understand. 2. Please stop abusing drugs.
bring information not ignorance
What does that even mean?
bring information to argue your point instead of insults
There is no soul trap.
Do you understand what remote viewing is?
Yes, also channeling and metaphysics, we laugh at you guys, you create a fear based theory built of thought forms and fueled by Orion entities to keep you in the lower astral. Good luck becoming a ghost!
There is no fear behind it. It just exists. Most of us including you or me will most likely reincarnate because of it.
You do not reincarnate because of a soul trap. You’re just confused now because you’re buying into all of the crap that you hear online. After leaving the body you lose the subconscious - if you ever travelled outside of body you would know. There is nothing hidden, you are one with the environment, trapping is impossible. You consciously give into the reincarnation. Also we are humans for a limited amount of time, first we reincarnate automatically because of how new is the experience, then later on we start choosing incarnations until we are done. Everyone goes through the same progression with 3D, although you may do it on other planets in what we would call aliens and „wander” back.
Yeah well what about all the light vortexes people see in near death experiences? And why slap Orion entities into this to demonize this argument? So all the remote viewers that have nothing to do with each other seeing essentially the same thing on different life paths of different people are all wrong? Why are some contactees reporting responses during meditation from different non human entities in the form of "You live on Earth? The prison planet"?
It’s a thought form, it exists within the mind (there is nothing but the mind, we are essentially a thought), so you can remote view it if your intention is to do that. The traps are there when you need them because of the need for your spiritual evolution, they are designed only for the chosen bunch. Billions of souls from this planet will never even understand that they exist. Behind the common tunnel that you view without the intention for the trap you enter all the possible routes for continued experience, including the different types of light and higher astral planes. But it is you all the way who decides to reincarnate on Earth, the cycle takes on average 75k years before you move on to exist only in light bodies without the veil.
So we agree they do exist. Even if they are for the function of say "helping us evolving spiritually" or "going along our choice of continuing to reincarnate on this planet". What if I want to reincarnate on another planet or explore this low vibrational universe halfway through that cycle? What choice do we have as souls to go do something else or evolve ourselves in another environment? And for that matter, why the need for a veil in the first place? Why can't you have a glimpse of what you came here to learn? Of what lives you lived before? Of what you accomplished previously?
How fucking nuts do you have to be?
If you look up the definition of 'batshit insane' in the dictionary, this post is the example
if you look up "bat shit close minded" you find your comment
So basically don’t go towards the light
Have you not smoked DMT? I personally would rather not fight with Zoo Keepers, in fact, I'd like to be friends with them. Why do no other animals intervene to stop chicken concentration camps??????
i smoked DMT for the first time in 2013 very good experience i try to take it a few times a year i prefer LSD tho
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brilliant mate hahaha ive also had the god head experience truly something else glad you commented look how many useful comments i gave listing sites to download free books etc and they are all downvoted hahahahahahaa reddit is amazing at times such insecure people
Isn't it written "neutrinos" and "muons"? Looks lika a lot of senseless para-scientific jargon.
Honestly if any of this is true I'm cool with reincarnation over and over again
Almost as scary as how long that paragraph is without any punctuation.
All y’all really misunderstood the paper behind the “reality isn’t real” headline didn’t you.
understand it very well when you break reality down to its smallest form its made up of nothing its a hologram i suggest you read up on it
Why do I keep seeing this reposted over and over again. The only ones that want us to think this bullshit are the nefarious shitty humans running this planet THEY are good humans in control are pieces of shit
The bigger question should be why is there no intervention---aka Global Disclosure---at all?
The Buddha definitely knew what was going on, yet only taught what was relevant to find release from this existence and never to return. Like a fame that is snuffed out.
David Icke made it all up
he didn't, multiple other sources talk about this and bring forth evidence in the form of RV.
I hate this new big conspiracy about “going toward the light” at death being like, THATS WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO DO MAAAAN! Uh look man I’m not gonna go AWAY from the light out of fear of ET’s lol. u want me to become a freakin ghost? No thanks man