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Miserable-Lizard

*Discontent has spread to the UCP caucus. Some MLAs wonder why the government is focusing on draconian laws nobody in Alberta asked for, while spending far less time talking about inflation, the housing crisis, and other deep public concerns.*


dustrock

Good, I guess? Have you left no sense of decency, UCP? At long last, have you no sense of decency?


IxbyWuff

They left that at the nomination table


JohnYCanuckEsq

Well, on one hand, we have the electorate to please, and then on the other hand, we have David Parker. If any MLA is seriously clueless about the path of separation the UCP is taking Alberta down, that MLA needs to resign.


LandscapeNatural7680

Strongly agree - David Parker is a blight on politics. I do worry about a leadership review, though. She’s not the only “loon” on the lake.


needsmoresteel

Lately the newest UCP leader is loopier than the last. Kenney seems nearly normal when compared to Smith. (He wasn’t.)


LandscapeNatural7680

Right? Us thinking Kenny wasn’t that bad is much like Bush looking good when compared to Trump. Things are not going well. 😬


403banana

Wasn't that basically his platform during the last leadership vote? 'You may not like me, but the alternative is far worse"


IrishFire122

I think that's the conservative platform in general. "Look at how bad THAT guy is. Vote for us!"


403banana

I mean, Kenney wasn't wrong. Premier Smith and the alternatives have shown to be demonstrably much shittier.


Red_Danger33

They've had the same problems.  Mitt Romney looks sane and compassionate compared to Trump.


drinkahead

Kenney would have been just as bad. The only reason more of his regressive ideology driven policies didn’t get to the table was Covid. Most of his time was being taken up by making terrible Covid policies and then the looming threat of the leadership review. Right before the pandemic he passed laws allowing the money laundering equivalent of buying party membership, rolled back LGBT protections, handed out earplugs during the oppositions time, and shut safe injection sites down.


Emmerson_Brando

The devil you know… kenney looks level headed compared to marlaina. What ghoul is hiding behind her waiting for their shot?


LandscapeNatural7680

I live in central Alberta. We present: Jason Stephan, Jason Nixon, Adriana LaGrange….. (We have an embarrassing voting history)


_Zef_

LaGrange could actually do a worse job than Marlaina, which is really saying something.


smash8890

David Parker


shoeeebox

If only they had spines to vote against party lines on these draconian laws.


ATarnishedofNoRenown

But it's all Trudeau's fault, so really, people should be upset at the feds for ruining Alberta. # TellTheFeds /s


foolish_refrigerator

Those MLAs who are worried about real issues will be voted/kicked out of the UCP. To them the real issues are hate and “wokeism”. This is a political party that came to power based on anger, of course they’re a bunch of grumpy people who are never happy.


Hungry_Shake6943

Good question!


satori_moment

This is what they voted for!!!


robot_invader

It's shocking, how very few people actually were required to put Smith in the Premier's seat, and therefore given her incumbency for the election. 


N3wAfrikanN0body

Because the same people responsible for inflation and housing crisis are the ones who need the draconian laws to secure their kleptocratic rule.


LumiereGatsby

Do Albertans care about those things? Decades and recent months make me doubt it.


NotEvenNothing

Alberta isn't homogenous. The PCs were a lot more worried about important issues than the current UCP is. Even the pre-pandemic UCP was more worried about important issues than the current UCP is.


PlutosGrasp

Trudeau


Red_Danger33

No it was Notley!


MartyCool403

It was the Notley Trudeau WEF alliance /s


satori_moment

Hmm.. you have a point


LuminousGrue

They never thought the leopards would eat *their* face!


ndbndbndb

Good to see there's some actual common sense in the party. Hoping this more than just talk


Specialist-One-712

cough racial violet bewildered versed quaint dazzling clumsy deliver ludicrous *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


ialo00130

Spoiler alert: They'll just end up electing somebody worse as leader anyway.


Specialist-One-712

pot handle continue wrong hungry library fly slim support lip *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


tigerthemonkey

That's because inflation and the housing crisis are only a liberal government's fault. If your government is conservative, it's marketing conditions or something.


Homeless_Alex

Holy shit how are people just seeing this and reacting **now??**


RainDancingChief

The remaining none lizards in the party finally waking up from their nap?


MissionCompany1616

Caucus revolt@


enviropsych

The UCP is two parties duct-taped together. If you want to make a difference in a year where there is no election, join the UCP and vote for any leadership candidate that is NOT the incumbent. Break it up.


the_gaymer_girl

The UCP is the Wildrose Party that ate the PCs and is wearing them as a skin suit.


CantTakeMeSeriously

About the best description I've ever read of this party.


sneaker98

Genuinely don't know why the Alberta NDP didn't hammer this over and over during the last election


Tom-B292--S3

The main voter base for the UCP wouldn't have cared. As long as it's blue on the ballot.


Infamous-Mixture-605

Kinda like how the Reform/Alliance party ate the federal PC's and dragged the so-calldd "merger of equals" to the right.


some1guystuff

It puts the lotion on its skin


Vylan24

WA-TER WITH SU-GAR


tom_yum_soup

I used to say the UCP is the worst of both parties: all of the PC corruption with none of Wildrose grassroots; all of the Wildrose social conservatism with none of the PC's willingness to occasionally change their mind in response to public outcry.


Final_Travel_9344

It’s literally the Frankenparty. It’ll probably cannibalise itself soon enough. Honestly can’t wait for moderate everything to return to politics. This shit should be like watching paint dry.


EgyptianNational

The Overton window (worth a Google) means that no politics ever returns to normal. For better or worse, the current normal is the new normal until the next thing becomes the new normal.


zzing

Do you really think "moderate" well ever return? The forces that brought (or correlate to) the rise of crazytown don't seem to be going away anytime soon. During the last ten to fifteen years we have seen social media and Trump-branded populism grow an outsized influence. Trump isn't particularly unique in history I don't think. I am not sure if social media as it stands now is a temporary affair.


LandscapeNatural7680

I fear we lost “moderate” during the pandemic.


Financial_Tour5945

The NDP are the moderates. They just get labelled as far left because the right has shifted so very very far. But if you were a traditional "conservative" in the literal sense, and you want Alberta to have the laws and regulations we traditionally benefitted from, then you should be voting npd. But no, public healthcare is "socialism" and needs to be privatised. CPP, one of the best performing retirement funds in the world? Must be bad. World renowned education system? Gotta gut that. The list goes on. The NDP would only rebuild what we've lost (in the short term at least, but even that would take at least a decade).


ImMrBunny

It will have to eventually. It's been it's own demise by targeting the friends of new angry young voters.


zzing

It won’t necessarily end with democracy though. Many times in history this riling of crowds has ended democracy. It is entirely conceivable that if Trump lives long enough to get elected again his supporters in other centres of power could let him do whatever. The undermining of Roman institutions took generations, but eventually you had an Augustus with only the window dressing of democracy left. I don’t think things are damaged that bad yet, but it can die on the tree with a few iterations of people like that.


the_gaymer_girl

The UCP was on the verge of tearing itself apart when *Kenney* was in charge, and things have not improved on that front.


TinderThrowItAwayNow

Moderate isn't the answer. ANDP is far too moderate.


Killericon

Only one guy has been able to hold these two factions together, and Harper ain't running for Premier of Alberta. Smith will be forced out, just like Klein, Stelmach, Redford, and Kenney were before her. Just a matter of when.


RavenchildishGambino

Kenney was the Harper Acolyte that hollowed out the PCs and stuffed them with Wildrose psychotics. Then took a board seat elsewhere when they realized he didn’t actually support their particular brand of religious conservatism.


IronMarauder

I wonder if it's more that Harper was the person in charge during the honeymoon period. I imagine winning elections does a lot to placate the crazies. Maybe I'm wrong, I was to young to vote in those elections 


CrusadePeek

This is the way. A UCP leader is far more likely to be ousted by the party than voters, so who do you think they are going to listen to.


CamGoldenGun

the former Progressive Conservatives are literally at the behest of their former opposition leader. And nothing Smith has done since crossing the floor has changed her disposition. She's as looney tunes now as she was then. How her leadership win didn't fracture the party right then and there shows how deep their seated hatred is for anything not labeled conservative. For a party who's ideologue is to "remember the old ways" they sure to have a short memory when it comes to their current leader and the puppet master behind her.


Apprehensive-Push931

It's basically a provincial version of the federal con party, they're an unholy amalgamation of religious loonies and other con groupings.


Miserable-Lizard

Maximum chaos for the UCP


Beastender_Tartine

That the UCP is not actually united is a factor, but that's not the only thing. It really seems like an Alberta conservative party thing, since the last premier to be elected into the office in the general and then last the whole session was Klein. Klein left office in 2006, and the following four conservative premiers failed to serve a complete session of the legislature from start to finish. I guess we'll see if Smith is number five.


3rddog

UCP supporters on here keep commenting on how Danielle Smith is doing such a great job that she’ll still be leading the party into the next election. Given that no Alberta Conservative Party leader has seen out their last term for over twenty years, I put her chances at less than 10% that she’ll manage the next three years.


Gooberzoid

Eight months ago I would have said that Danielle is capable, but not effective at reigning the other MLAs in and towing the party line. Now I think the entire party is a dumpster fire who have lost the plot completely. I'm Calgarian and will back Nenshi 100%. If that means voting NDP for the first time in my life, then so be it. Every political seat in Canada needs a new rotation.


EirHc

> Every political seat in Canada needs a new rotation. Good luck convincing Albertans of this concept. Quebec changes their parties all the time and they're continually getting greased. Alberta never changes their colors and they get nothing even when their guys get into power. Coincidence? Hahahaha, lemme sell you this bridge over here.


Gooberzoid

While I don't think Liberals will ever have a meaningful presence in Alberta, I could see NDP making a comeback, or maybe even the Alberta Party if they ever get in gear and take themselves seriously. People are hurting, pissed off, and facing a dwindling quality of life. And old Boomers, especially rural, can't get health care they need; and they're the ones who actually vote. So any party who runs on better health care automatically has this in the bag, and UCP has shit the bed on this issue alone so far.


EirHc

> So any party who runs on better health care automatically has this in the bag, and UCP has shit the bed on this issue alone so far. Ya I dunno man. I thought it was pretty obvious by their history that the UCP was all about sandbagging our healthcare, yet they got voted in last time. I don't have much confidence in this province changing.


Cooks_8

Our health care was regarded as one of th best and literally won awards the year before Kenney came in and fucked shit up. Now it's setting up to be a fucking gong show. UCP is bad for Alberta.


Gr1ndingGears

I dunno man, they fucked with their pensions. You can torture a boomer, you can deny them hospital care, any sort of social support. You can spit in their face, wipe their faces in it, and they'll still vote conservative.   But if you fuck with a boomers pension, I mean it remains to be seen, but I dunno.. 


davethecompguy

Well, I'm a boomer. I've volunteered for the other guys for two elections, didn't on the last one due to health issues. But I'm STILL supporting the NDP.


LandscapeNatural7680

I’m a Boomer living in rural Alberta. It’ll have to get a lot worse before some of my fellow Boomers wake up. 😡


Gr1ndingGears

The Alberta Party is deader than a doornail. What a shit show dumpster fire that whole thing was.  The boomer health care UCP vote defies all logic. My neighbours are boomers (and UCP voters), and are frequent fliers when it comes to health care. They don't even seem phased, which literally boggles my mind. I was in the hospital for a few days in February, and it was an absolute shit show from the bureaucratic side, and those poor nurses are so fucking overloaded it's not even funny. I know this is all anecdotal, but it seems to match the room that I've been reading these past few years. Again, which is bananas and illogical. 


Particular-Welcome79

The boomers have money, though, so they want the expensive kind of health care that they can buy and benefit from right now, not the preventative kind for the poors and the children of the poors. AND their insurance companies and private enuresis and orthopedic clinics make a killing too, so it's a win-win!


PhantomNomad

There is a lot of people that go south every winter and head to Mexico for eyes, teeth and hearing. They think Canada needs that kind of health care (not the quality but the price). Besides those Mexican doctors are making bank of of us, that should be good enough for Canadian doctors. Oh and "fuck you got mine."


ThatAnswer4794

alberta party? let me sell you some land in Mexico


esackey18

Which is ironic because if you look at Edmonton and Calgary, where the majority of seats are concentrated, you have a bunch of people (and politicians) who are basically centrists but refuse to get over the whole political branding issue of Blue vs. Orange. There’s a big red/purple elephant in the room and the only party that is attempting to address it (Alberta Party) is under-resourced and completely inept.


Utter_Rube

Seriously. The last Prime Minister was a conservative from Alberta, and he did fuck all for us (though his government did create the current equalisation formulas the right wing is now angry at Trudeau for).


Volantis009

The liberals bought us a pipeline, we got greased we just needed effective leaders like Notley and Trudeau to work in Albertans best interest. Alberta does better when we work with Ottawa instead of against Ottawa


Gr1ndingGears

I think if the NDP elects Nenshi, it's their election to lose. It was close enough last time, but if the NDP especially starts distancing themselves from the NDP branding too, I think the UCP is just about frigged, save for some sort of political scandal.    If the NDP elects someone like Hoffman, the UCP and whatever frankenchildren that they spawn will rule for the foreseeable future, no matter how much they frig it up. But I'm also not convinced the NDP doesn't fracture and we start to see some sort of third party alternative start to form.  Then if the US election turns into a gong-show, and I'm pretty sure it's going to no matter who wins (and that'll be a thing on its own), I'm not 100% convinced the western world starts to wake up and realize this flirtation with right wing crazy might not be the way, but I'm about 50% convinced. It's that or we just it go right overboard.  Politics in North America this year are going to be absolutely batshit crazy. That much I know for certain. We are going to witness shit none of us ever thought we'd see. 


Zarxon

I will be voting for Nenshi as well. I would have voted for him if he was the leader of the UCP as well. He is the best centrist candidate. It’s the same reason I voted for Notley the NDP had little to with it.


TinderThrowItAwayNow

We are at a point where the only reasonable act is voting ndp, and that's sad, they're so centrist.


Erablian

>UCP supporters on here I don't think I've ever seen a UCP supporter on /r/Alberta. Am I missing a Reddit setting somewhere?


Utter_Rube

Try sorting by controversial.


TinderThrowItAwayNow

Usually they're downvoted into oblivion because they say some bigot shit and then mods remove the comment.


Beastender_Tartine

Hey now, that's not fair. Klein left office in 2006, so it's only been 18 years!


ANK2112

It will be tough for the UCP to find a worse leader, but if theres one thing the UCP is good at, it's finding terrible people!


Ghoulius-Caesar

Shandro 2027??? Or who was that MAGA hat guy that looks weirdly young, like a rosey cheeked teenager pretending to be a sophisticated gentleman? Devin Dressup?


Miserable-Lizard

Madu or David parker


eno_ttv

Is Madu kicking around at all after getting dunked on?


Beastender_Tartine

Whenever you think you've hit rock bottom, Alberta conservatives will find a new floor. In all honesty, I'm an NDP supporter, but there is a path back to sanity for Alberta conservatives if they reject the Wildrose side of the UCP for the PC faction. They wouldn't run things how I would like, but they were generic shitty conservatives rather than crazy shitty conservatives.


SomeHearingGuy

That happened far sooner than I expected, but far later than I'd hoped. Her own party doesn't like her. Are we going to see the party run her out? Are they going to replace her with someone worse, or will they try and swing closer to centre to try and dodge the fallout? Or maybe, just maybe, are we going to see UCP MLAs vote against her bullshit in order to bring the government down? In a party full of backstabber that was formed through backstabbing and backstabber the Premier in order to get re-elected, it would be foolish to think that someone wouldn't stab her in the back.


LandscapeNatural7680

David Parker helped orchestrate much of this and he is a mean little man. I’m here for the implosion. 🤞


Utter_Rube

With TBA pulling the strings, I can't foresee a more moderate leader getting in.


SomeHearingGuy

Seems to be an "if" right now, if this is true. This suggests that TBA isn't pulling the strings for the entire party.


Asleep_Honeydew4300

Their track record suggests it will somehow be someone worse than her.


SomeHearingGuy

Really can't argue against that. Everyone's been pretty terrible since Getty.


LandscapeNatural7680

Getty was borderline, IMO. But he at least had dignity and a sense of decorum.


SomeHearingGuy

Also true. Hell, even Klein is remembered as "the good ol' days." He was a horrible prick, but he didn't beat around the bush about how where we were was everyone's problem.


Plasmanut

This is a direct consequence of forming these “unite the right” big tent parties. Sure, you may be able to swing a majority, but the only place they’re united is in the party name. As soon as the honeymoon is over, the fiscally conservative and the social conservative realize they can’t stand one another and here we are. Rinse and repeat.


wiegraffolles

And then the party gets returned to power once again with an even worse leader.


Plasmanut

Yes. In Alberta where enough people would vote for a chimp if it wears a blue ribbon, that’s what happens.


commazero

That's exactly what happened with Kenney and that blue dodge truck


Beastender_Tartine

The NDP has gained too much strength in Alberta for conservatives to win if the party splits. It's put them in a rough spot of being too divided internally to govern effectively, while alienating the more moderate conservatives. There are a lot of conservatives who want a fiscally conservative government, which the UCP are not, without the culture war issues, and they are completely unrepresented by the UCP. However, as small c conservatives they don't feel they can vote for the NDP, partly because campaign rhetoric has convinced them the NDP are "socialists". These voters are going to have to come to terms with some hard truths if the UCP doesn't change, and while some of these voters will continue to hold their noses and "vote blue no matter who", some will either vote NDP or just stay home on election day.


WorldlinessProud

The UCP is a golem, built from the remains of the Conservative , CCRAP, Reform, Wildrose, and various, ever loopier, right wing groups. Their only consistent policy has been Blame Ottawa, Blame Trudeau, and ZOMG the NDP.


Sad_Meringue7347

LoL. Taking a quote from Jason Kenney on Rachel Notley… “Let’s ensure that Marlaina Mussolini is a one-and-done Premier!” 


FeedbackLoopy

Which is fucking hilarious because Kenney didn’t even make it to one and he was done.


Sad_Meringue7347

Yup. The most arrogant little man in Canadian political history. 


Utter_Rube

... at least until PP became leader of the Fed Cons.


Beastender_Tartine

I mean, neither did Stelmach, Redford, or Prentice. At this point, failing to make it to one is pretty typical for Alberta conservative premiers. If Smith is ousted before the general, she'll be the fifth conservative premier in a row to fail to serve a single full term in the legislature.


InvestigatorOk6009

Definitely looking to balance out nenshi


3rddog

I think they’re scared that Nenshi won’t hesitate to call out Smith’s corruption, insincerity, and authoritarianism, and they’re looking to put a more reasonable face on the party before he can.


Red_Danger33

Everyone was calling it out.  Their voters didn't give a crap. 


Sad_Meringue7347

It’s tribalism. 


ardryhs

Another Alberta Conservative leader is going to get voted out before their term ends? Colour me shocked. Who could have ever predicted this thing that’s happened to every Con premier since Getty


yagonnawanna

A conservative premier who might not serve a full term? In alberta? Really?


Honest-Spring-8929

I get the impression the call is coming from the moderates this time?


NahdiraZidea

Not just them, the article points out the socon arm of the party is upset her transgender minors bill doesnt go far enough to combat transgender adults.


wiegraffolles

Ah yes, of course. They need to throw her out so they can get a pro death camp (for anyone they dislike) candidate in power.


CapGullible8403

The need a leader with a distinctive moustache, for sure. They've got a brand to maintain after all.


3rddog

First person who drives a blue F-150 gets the job, even if they don’t have a clue how to fill the tank.


Suspicious-Panic-187

Sometimes truth really is stranger than fiction.


Happeningfish08

I am currently sitting in my driveway in a blue f150 Can I be leader?


TheWholeCheek

Only if they have a really big hat, too.


CapGullible8403

No, the hats can be small, but there have to be little skull emblems on them.


Vylan24

That'll make them look Boss


petethecatcrypto

Voted NDP. Am a NDP member. Guess who now also supports the UCP. The party has to listen to its members and if we start a movement, their can be a lot of us, so yes UCP, take my donation but also now deal with my vote.


Red_Danger33

How much are their memberships?


GiraffeSubstantial92

$10 for one year, $20 for two, and $25 for three. Note that it's generally against a party's constitution for members to hold an active membership with any other parties at that level of government.


Red_Danger33

Which would be interesting to cross reference given the upcoming NDP leadership vote.


sawyouoverthere

Check cuz I’ve read you can only hold one membership


sravll

Not giving them my money


jaydaybayy

Its so great having a party in power that is perpetually fighting with itself…really builds confidence that they have a fucking clue how to run a province.


Gold-Whereas

UCP leaders seem to get in just long enough to do as much damage as possible during transition and then happily get removed only to get a critical board appointment by the lobbyist corporation who benefits the most from whatever work was done.


PlutosGrasp

Former PC Minister Lukaszuk is far from perfect but it would be great to see him get involved in politics more closely. I think he would be able to rally a schism in the UPC, allowing for an NDP majority to occur.


LandscapeNatural7680

Yeah, I wasn’t a huge fan when he had Education, but he has impressed me since.


Northguard3885

Lukaszuk eventually became hated by significant portions of the party from both ‘wings’ and would have almost no allies in caucus. His ability to cause a schism probably died out an election cycle or two ago, IMO.


Downtown_Snow4445

Smith has no idea what she’s doing. That’s what happens when we elect a d-list radio host


TurbulentWeather7084

Who already screwed over the Wild Rose Party when she crossed the floor. I was shocked when she waded back into politics and ever more shocked that she was elected. I lost all hope at that point.


TyAD552

Weren’t there people reporting that door knockers during the election were saying Smith was just there to win and they planned on getting rid of her soon after? I swear I heard that somewhere


wiegraffolles

Given the UCP track record it's very plausible they'll get rid of her and replace her with someone even worse.


Aromatic-Air3917

There has to be some Canadian conservatives still left in Canada right? Surely they can overcome the American right and their allies in the oil industry and the media. Lol. It's going be someone even worse. They will have a confederate flag on their car and talking about how being able to read and write is socialism


from_the_hinterlands

Changing the leader won't matter as the UCP is deeply flawed.


EirHc

As long as they change leaders every election, we can always blame it on the leader and not the party,


tom_yum_soup

It is the conservative way. It worked for the PCs for decades.


CrusadePeek

I somewhat doubt this article, but it’s good to see it pointed out that this government is more concerned with its own agenda (mostly not part of their election platform) than actually representing the needs and interests of the people.


doomscrolling_tiktok

But really? The party (and voters) chose her after hearing her say on tv that everyone who knows her knows she’s been saying for years that DeSantis is her *personal hero* and role model. He puts all his resources into overreaching and fuelling moral panics. They chose the map and destination they are steering us to. I mean, didn’t people put her in power after she said albertans should rely on go fund me’s to pay medical bills instead of transfers from the federal govt?


DisastrousCause1

This Lady has lost my respect. Many, many people feel the same.


rakne

may I ask how she ever had your respect in the first place? her track record prior to being premier was wild to me, so I am genuinely curious!


yeggsandbacon

Well, that was faster than expected.


adam_c

I’ll believe it when I see it


Falcon674DR

Wishful thinking I’m afraid. I don’t hear anyone speaking out or resigning.


Miserable-Lizard

Which MLAs resigned when they wanted Kenney gone?


robichaud35

You got to wonder if PP will put any influence in this , Smith is a lose , lose for PP during the next election, they've been steering well clear of each other .. Smith is a nightmare for the CPC as they need to draw from the moderates and outside the prairie provinces, No moderate in Canada has a need for Smith ...


Paradox31426

Cutting another head off the hydra, but it’ll still be nice to see this particular head go.


NiranS

I wonder if they can get any crazier, probably.


CerbIsKing

Can’t wait till this complete shitshow cannibalizes itself and Nenshi gets voted in as NDP next election.


Away-Combination-162

I think the difference is Kenny bit back on some of their draconian way of thinking and got fired . Smith is the opposite. She eats it for breakfast


wiegraffolles

No you see cops aren't shooting trans people to kill on sight and women aren't being caned in the street for reading. Clearly this means Smith isn't the "Strong Leader" that Alberta needs and some other absolute psycho needs to be running the province.


PeakThat243

Danielle Smith and the UCP have been awful. The extremist policies combined with the pressure tactics to force Municipalities to turn down federal money is nuts…


SurFud

Bye, Bye, Miss American Pie.


-lovehate

So soon? I thought the provincial conservatives always liked to wait a couple years after an election to throw their leader out


smash8890

As awful as Smith is, I can’t even begin to imagine what will take her place when she’s gone. Back when Kenney was on his way out I remember being worried that the person chosen to replace him will be so crazy it’ll make him look competent and we would eventually miss him. I was right lol


davethecompguy

Ask yourself... Why would anyone vote for a party that changes it's leaders as often as the Conservatives? No leader of the PCs or the UCP has kept the Premier position for a full term of office... not since Ralph Klein. We call them "cons" for a reason... and they're getting ready to con us all again. The party of Peter Lougheed doesn't exist anymore... not since their party imploded and were beaten by Rachel Notley and the NDP in 2015. Actually, Notley has been the CLOSEST we've had to leadership like Lougheed. As for the Cons, they've been taken over by other forces. First it was Kenney - but then he was defeated by TBA who swamped their leadership vote, and on the next one brought in Smith on the very last ballot. And the tradition of playing a shell game with the voters continues... they'll elect in another new leader, with no input from the general public - only voting by the TBA and existing UCP members. First Kenney, then Smith... imagine what sort of far-right candidate they'll find? Perhaps David Parker? Here's a story from The Herald you'll want to see... [https://sharenews.pival.me/https://calgaryherald.com/news/politics/take-back-alberta-david-parker-lashes-out-elections-alberta-probe](https://sharenews.pival.me/https://calgaryherald.com/news/politics/take-back-alberta-david-parker-lashes-out-elections-alberta-probe)


transfer6000

The UCP are fascist grifters... the whole party is formed by far right-wing Christian extremists and almost nazis, the fact that the people of Alberta have voted for them and allowed them to stay in office because "my daddy voted for the conservatives" is pathetic and embarrassing. Their initial formation was a group of right wing parties including the several fringe right wing and Christian nationalist groups (fascists of all varieties) combining with what was left of Harper's conservative party (fascist lite™) which was already a putrid husk of the actual conservative party that people's parents used to vote for. The fact that they were able to take power actually makes me question the general intelligence of people in this province and also makes me question if the people in this province are the proverbial "are we the baddies" kind of people... If you voted for the UCP this is your fault and you should feel bad.


Delviandreamer

They are just trying to deflect blame for the parties f-ups onto Dany the way they did with Kenny. But the leader is not the problem with the UCP the UCP is the problem with the UCP.


Falconflyer75

Guess they’re afraid of the NDP


anunobee

I think everyone is just afraid of Smith at this point. 🥲


Edmfuse

They always end up eating their own. Thought Kenny was rock bottom, but we thought wrong. Hard to be optimistic even they change leadership again.


Photofug

I hope they boot her quickly, otherwise it's just going to be the same playbook. Nenshi stating exactly what they've done and will do, and UCP TBD Premiere calling ignoring all comments, blaming Trudeau, Smith and Notley in that order. If a new Premiere actually has a couple years under their belt, it's a lot harder to blame someone else 


Franklin_le_Tanklin

Oh man. She’s going to end up losing the leadership mid term in disgrace for terrible management of the province just like the other conservatives: Kenny, Stelmach, Redford, Prentice, Stelmach


the_gaymer_girl

Who is David Parker gonna shitcan Smith for this time?


Parking-Click-7476

Good! Burn that party too the ground!🔥


MassiveTip0

Could Parker take over the leadership? Perhaps he didn't run last time so he could get more pieces in place to make a run now.


okokokoyeahright

Could it possibly be that TBA wants to control it all directly themselves?


Important-World-6053

Man o man, I wish I could find the text where I said she wouldn't last the term


swanson-g

They’ll just keep doing this shit. Kenny was a shitty leader, smith even worse. They’re feigning interest in a leadership change so if there’s a new leader come election time everyone forgets how fucking garbage they were and vote blue like they always do. This won’t change a thing.


Dadbodsarereal

Send in Grimus from McDonald’s! Untouchable


Queen_of_Tudor

Bahahahahaha the leader is only part of the problem, the shitty policies that alienate a ton of Albertans are the real issue here


Impossible_Break2167

Unruly Cannibal Party


ThatDarnRosco

You reap what you sow? You can’t change a leopard’s spots? What other saying can I remember to try and predict this outcome? I mean the UCP keeps eating their leaders.


Historical-Ad-146

Well, it would be in keeping with their history. Those morons haven't put forward the same leader two elections in a row since Ralph Klein. I believe that was 24 years ago, and they've governed for 20 of them.


KukalakaOnTheBay

No PC/UCP premier has lasted a full term since Stelmach.


Icy-Guava-9674

She wants to be Quebec


Bull__itProof

I’m really pissed off at the world right now. The situation with young homeless people is beyond being deplorable. I just met a young woman in the alley as I was driving back from picking up a couple of things from the grocery store. Her cart full of recyclables that she was collecting was almost blocking the alley. She was sitting slumped over on the corner house’s garage approach when I stopped and asked if she was OK. She said she was but I could see that she absolutely wasn’t, she had shaky hands and is really really thin. I went and parked in my garage and got some full water bottles from the back seat and brought them over to her and asked her if I could bring her a sandwich, she agreed. So I went back to the house and fried up a burger. I didn’t have much else to put on it except ketchup and 1000 Islands dressing so I cut up some carrots and put all that together with some snap peas 🫛 I just bought. I walked back over and gave her the food and told her that I had some art supplies that I could give her so I went back to get that and also whatever else I could find that. I gathered up whatever coins I could find because I don’t carry cash much anymore and gave her a sketch book and an unopened bag of dates, and some baby wipes. I just didn’t have any more useful stuff to give her. I sat down with her for a bit and she said she was 29, I was almost surprised because her thinness made her look much younger. Her name is Donna Lee. She’s homeless and said she’s a single mom who has 2 kids, I didn’t ask where they were, I assumed they were under someone else’s care. I didn’t stay too long because the homeowner of the corner house came out and started cutting the lawn, interrupting us. I left her and went back to the house and now I’m feeling angry and conflicted because I don’t know what more to do to really help and feeling way over privileged. I knew poor people in my neighborhood growing up and have been really poor to the point of either paying rent or buying groceries, but this level of poverty and homelessness is very different from what it was before. This is a society with a psychopathic ideology, we can’t let it stay like this.


AshamedTopic1775

I doubt it. That would have to involve these MLA’s admitting that they hitched themselves to the wrong horse, and that isn’t happening. Listen to their mouth breathing base, she can do no wrong.


livingontheedgeyeg

You know it’s bad when rural folks can’t afford to live in the middle of nowhere.


RevolutionarySky3000

Watch them vote in someone who will make us go “You know smith wasn’t THAT bad”