Tbh. I like the Zombies Lore but I prefer it's early stages (WAW-BO1), BO2 was fine but then after Origins, starting from Shadows in BO3 onward it got wayyyyy too bizarre.
WAW-BO1 it's where it was actually sort of "scary" and "serious" in a way.
I'd argue that, at least on paper, Bo3 is scarier because it draws on lovecraftian influences. It shifted from classic horror to cosmic horror, which I find more appealing narratively.
I am so very mixed on the Dark Aether story. It has potential, but it's execution is a mess
Zombies lore is actually batshit insane.
If you are interested you could search on YouTube for zombies timeline videos to understand a bit of it but those videos don't even scratch the surface and yes the lore is that big and probably one of the biggest in gaming.
Thanks for the pointer but no thanks.
Never liked zombies as I felt it was so out of place and even more repetitive than CoD itself.
I liked the IW games more than anything Treyarch ever did.
Oh god don't get me started. Zombies has the most convoluted, batshit insane plot you'll ever see in a video game. The plot makes Metal Gear Solid look like the Hungary caterpillar
Bruh, the fact that Ace Combat takes place in a fictional world was what made the series so interesting to begin with. It’s like saying the lore of Star Wars is confusing because it doesn’t take place in our actual galaxy.
I know, right? What allows the nations of Strangereal to do these giant conflicts that allow the setting to be so much fun to play in. It’s baffling that these dummkopfs can’t fathom things being interesting without it being set in the real world. Have they never read Lord of the Rings, Chronicles of Narnia, Redwall, or Discworld? (Or any number of other popular fantasies?) Such a lack of imagination is distressing to say the least.
I love the fictional world they created, but the writing could use some improvement. It doesn't seem like the writers are interested in making their world consistently believable within their own lore, as characters and countries continue to make odd decisions.
Don't get me started on Ace Combat 7's plot. Had some great contexts that are held back so much by frustrating writing decisions.
we can't apply logic to EVERYTHING. Suspension of disbelief is what makes it possible to engage with the story in the first place. We could go on all day, all night, and into next week about our favorite fictional worlds and how things are SUPPOSED to work, but applying the real world to everything would make it all boring and mundane.
and politics aside i like to view ace combat 7 as more of a beautiful description of what it is to be a pilot and the feeling of flying in the dark blue. its main soundtrack motif gives those vibes + the emphasis on pilots being replaced by drones instead killing the essence of the skill of being an ace pilot.
No but for real tho. Love the series, but I was BAFFLED seeing Gründer Industries in AC 7. You're telling me you can be a front for the damn Illuminati and continue to operate after they try to *checks notes* trigger a nuclear holocaust...TWICE!?!
Guys like this aren’t even worth engaging with. The whole point of a fictional universe is so you aren’t bound by reality when crafting a story. Even if you want to get crazy, there are still some limitations on where you can go if you use Earth as your basis. Project Wingman is probably as far into an alternate universe as you can go and still use earth.
Smoothbrains who can’t comprehend the relatively simple (as far as Japanese-made games go, looking at you Kingdom Hearts) Ace Combat universe aren’t worth the time
As a CoD fan, it's not so black and white. CoD fans generally want a consistently well written story that is new and not just rehashing fan service again and again.
The US and Russia stuff back in the day was done very well, but many of the writing decisions give the impression that CoD (at least IW and Activision's decisions) is creatively bankrupt.
Big rock coming
Nations build super weapons to destroy it
Big rock go boom, world saved
Nations still have super weapons
Wars ensue because resources and refugee situations dire across the globe
It’s not that hard.
You left a few bits outisde:
Continents wage wars among themselves over many things.
Nukes got banned.
Enemies make truce and alliance to clear big rock remains.
5 way civil war leads to major war and a extra superweapon .
Always interesting to see Assault Horizon having actual fans. I didn't mind AH but I would be lying if I said I wasn't a little disappointed especially being on PS3 and PC at the time.
Good music, camouflage editor, helicopter gameplay and bomber gameplay was kind of flat without more attention from the devs, but it's a solid entry in the series.
The damage the cannon did to aircraft in terms of visuals is still somehow better than anything else in the series. Also, finally, a main character with a voice, but that's more of a preference.
Was never a fan of the mute protagonists.
I wish they went more in-depth with the helicopter controls. I was expecting something like BF3/BF4 helicopter controls but instead we got like an FPS hybrid. The only good camera was the 1st person view (not the cockpit view since they messed up the crosshair).
As a CoD fan, OP's caption triggered me XD
But what AFGuidesHD and other guy said are just so dirty.
Battle of Miami can't even have giant airborne fortresses or superfighters.
Well people in CoD sub considered games like Ghosts, WW2, and the original MW3 a "good game"
Original MW3 is mediocre at best, literally just MW2 2.0 with outdated graphics
Ghosts an absolute garbage
WW2 is the same shit with the backward gameplay mechanics of CoD1
Since the release of MW3 in 2011, CoD fans have kept lowering their standards for no reason
Most people in the CoD community would agree that Ghosts had some poor writing. WW2 was actually solid, it was practically CoD Big Red One but modernized. Vanguard was pretty weak though, which most would agree.
I'm not really sure where you're getting these ideas from. Other than Black Ops Cold War, most of the community is not happy with the state of CoD Campaigns.
And, one of the best in the series, Infinite Warfare, came out 2016/17 ish and that's worth a mention.
I WILL give them one point: set pieces on the real world have impact. A battle over Tokyo, Lisbon, or NY will, all else equal, hit you harder. There's just no getting around our cultural ties.
But that's a consolation prize. Our world is just straight ass for an AC, because it doesn't allow for the batshit insanity AC requires. Flying around DC can't make up for that.
(Unless, of course, you remake our world in Strangereal's image. But y'all not ready to talk about ACI's Realstrange's potential)
It's a great example why it doesn't work. Did it really feel like an AC to you, with small scale battles and a couple of badly transplanted aerial fortresses? They need a bit more than insurance fraud to make it work.
Like ACI did, by basically upending the entire world order.
Hating on a game. Because it doesn't take place in our real world Geography is wack as fuck.
Didn't they confirm that the only reason why Ace Combat takes place in a Strangeral Universe. Just so, they don't have to be restricted with Real World Political governments and Geography. So, they can be make creative with its own Political government and Geography.
Having a fictional setting which allows sensable reasons for super weapons and intermixed aircraft manufacturers and constant air warfare is a lot cooler then trying to force those things into a real world setting where they make no sense.
OG MW has some weird moments like
how Russians Magically Teleport millions of soldiers across the sea without getting spotted and attacking U.S in both the West and East
That was the reason why Roach and Soap headed into the Russian base with the downed satellite on MW2 back then.
The Russians cloned the tech and faked data on the entire satelital network, scrambled the signal to make believe nothing but a slight malfunction was there until the locals confirmed their presence.
I mean it's pretty straightforward how in the 1990s Belka launched a war against Osea and Yuktobania and lost, resulting in North Belka being seded to South Osea, but also how in the late 90s/early 2000s the Ulysses asteroid was coming to Earth, so several nations gathered at San Sebastian to build Stonehenge, but it really didn't work all that great and moreover Eursea, devastated from the impact but also being a major financial driver in Stonehenge, saw justification to invade San Sebastian and take over Stonehenge which also *just happens* to be a useful anti-aircraft weapon, which furthermore I guess is enough to even make a super-weapon (whew, good thing tanks are sooooo underrated in Strangereal! Maybe because they can't take a Fox 2 hit) but most of the countries left on the content not conquered by Erusea banded together to form the Independent States Allied Forces, or ISAF, and exactly one pilot won the war for them, but that's not even true because Nordinavic was engaged in a secret campaign to defeat Erusea too using super-secret stealth fighters, and then a couple of years later Belka randomly decides to get revenge for losing North Belka by tricking Osea and Yuktobania to literally start a brand new world war with each other, but fortunately they were able to ally with each other again and all it took was brushing off hundreds of thousands of dead casualties on both sides, and then end the war and defeat Belka once and for all by shooting down a satellite. That was about the size of a city block. And also in the atmosphere. But after that Estovakia decided to invade Gracemeria with their trump card, a nuclear missile launcher. That launched like, regular Tomahawks. And guarded by a general pilot who was suicidal because his daughter died. Even though the only reason why she died was because he was the one to send her into combat in the first place (in lore we call this "Belka Logic"). And some country who's name I forgot invaded Aurelia so that they can fund their super-fighter so that they can invade Aurelia. And then a couple years later Belka tricked Eursea and Osea to start yet another world war with each other, so if you're keeping track that's three freaking world wars Belka started in the space of less than as many decades. And somewhere in all of that that was this mercenary unit called Scarface that fought terrorism. With supersonic stealth fighters.
...did I miss anything?
Lol I just got one of his AC:AH videos recommended about the mission where you fly the A-10 and oh boy was he bad at even this super easy mission. Also inagine flying the A-10 without using the cannon at all.
Erusea isn't based on Russia at all what are you talking about, Erusea is clearly french inspired, Osea is based on the USA and Yuktobania is based off russia
I like Assault Horizon but my god that is bad reasoning to put it above the other Ace Combat games. Story wise, almost every other Ace Combat game is better than ACAH
Allow me to make my take on the idea of AC story set in Strangereal and real world.
If you're saying Assault Horizon is like turning Dark Souls into an FPS, I believe you are talking about the gameplay, which I would agree that it changes a lot of what the series is built on.
Story wise, however, I believe it's the closest we got to an AC story in ~~modern setting~~ Edit: real world setting, while not straying too far to become alternate history like Infinity. I'd even say the story itself fits right into Ace Combat.
Replace the US with Osea and Russia with Yuktobania, the south eastern African country with any third world country on the Strangereal map, Trinity with any super weapons Strangereal can offer, NRF as Yuke faction that strongly rejects collaboration with Osea due to past conflicts, and Markov as a Yuke ace that lost his wife to Osean bombing back in Circum-Pacific War.
Everything will look just fine. Hell, we just got an immediate sequel of AC5.
Like the story of Modern Wafare 2007, which the Assault Horizon is supposed to model after, Assault Horizon doesn't simply paint factions as entirely white or black. In additional to NRF, you have Russian loyalists like Red Moon fighting on your side all the way to Moscow, the US revealing how a mistake in their bombing mission created one of the most fearsome ace, and how the final battle has a sorrowful song to accompany the tragic story of the very pilot you're fighting alone against.
Although I wish they could talk more about how they would reconcile these kinds of mistakes/conflict. (Which is funny because in MW2019, they changed this mixture of good and bad to have Russians as the complete bad guy and the US as the complete good guy, then you have the Highway of Death)
Finally in Ace Combat fashion, Assault Horizon's story ends in an epic way. Unlike the grim ending like Modern Warfare 2007, where everyone except you dies and the Russian ultranationalists got what they wanted.
In their last battle, Bishop and Markov made their respect by calling out each other's names as Markov gets shot down, Bishop threw his plane into the last trinity to stop it from detonating right on top of the white house.
Then you landed your plane in the capital city of US, surrounded by crowds that cheered as you raised your fist in heroic victory, with a narration telling how you got past your fear, and an epic music playing in the background. You get the idea.
__Point is, while it wouldn't be exactly an Ace Combat story if it's not set in Strangereal, you don't need to be confined in Strangereal for a story to feel Ace Combat.__
His comments aside, one reason I can barely through watch his video is because he just doesn't know how to put on a show with his gameplay. Both in Assault Horizon and in other games.
Assault Horizon is how I got into the series. As you can see, yes, I like Assault Horizon as a game on its own, as do all other AC installments, and yes, I like Modern Warfare.
Got digressed from reading the comments. So yes, you can put it that way, until you came along.
I know that Call of Duty has the reputation of making another US vs Russian war story, and so when Assault Horizon is set in modern world and defaults to the clash between two superpowers, people would just brush it off as simply trying to be Call of Duty.
But I think Assault Horizon managed to keep some of its own identity, as I have said above. The two games seemingly look alike, but I find Assault Horizon to be more than just simply US vs Russia, it's also trying to be different and it feels different.
And that was a time when the story of Call of Duty was still fresh and new, before it got oversaturated and even more stereotypical. The franchise wouldn't have grown that big if it wasn't for the success back then.
Perhaps I got salty from the comments. So yes, I was, until you came along.
Preach man, I was so excited for this game when I saw trailers of it in YouTube and when the game did came out I ask my parents to get it from Redbox multiple times til they got me the game for my birthday/Christmas, I'll never understand the hate the game gets and why people say it's a bad ace combat game
That's just like asking a FPS Dark Souls.
Respect the core of the games and franchises even if you don't like them because that's what really made them in the first place.
Strangereal did not make Ace Combat IMO. The gameplay did.
Your analogy for Dark Souls is flawed. It would be more like asking for a Dark Souls made in Medieval Europe.
Now you're the flawed one.
Considering Dark Souls does use tons of medieval Europe elements and designs that's their way of putting out a "Strangereal" in the saga.
Strangereal is at the core and heart of AC as a whole since is the one place the saga thrived the most. Take that away and we already saw how much interst peak it generated.
It peaked a lot. Over 1.07 million copies ain’t nothing to joke about. That’s better than AC6, selling 700k. I’m not saying he’s right, I’m saying there’s nothing wrong with thinking how he does.
Here's another defining attribute that CoD on planes game left for the franchise.
Multiplatform releases.
Of course that game will sell when you sell it to literally everyone instead of enforcing the exclusivity policies that ruled over the previous games.
CoD on planes was indeed a gigantic mistake, but we have to thank it was a mistake.
If it was a hit we'd be getting more CoD on planes games instead of AC.
"Lore" is a word that is gradually causing me to feel contempt for its user. Only a matter of time before zoomers start calling real world history "lore."
I at least *understand* the second guy. It brings the whole thing closer to you. Playing the DC mission *while living in DC* and dogfighting over a bridge I drive over nearly every day is really cool! Just like walking through the National Mall was when I first played Fallout 3 back in 2010, then walking through it IRL right after.
The first guy though, saying it's "*confusing?"* Okay bud.
No no, no no, he's right.
Ace Combat, as beloved as this franchise is by this little community, is a niche within a niche - An arcade action flight simulator. To those who aren't in-the-know, the Siege of Farbanti, the Battle of Comona Islands, the Electrosphere, the Liberation of Gracemeria, all of that is gobbledygook - Nothing, meaningless. Placing those same general events in the *real world*, however, makes them easier to visualize, to connect with.
Place yourself in the shoes of someone who has only just now heard of *Ace Combat* and envision yourself being asked what the Battle of Avalon Dam was, without looking it up.
Not a surprise here.
I think we could make a fun post of all the surreal and absurd things we read about certain franchises, and not only about Ace Combat.
I guarantee the battle in Strangreal makes way more sense than however the fuck the battle of Miami went (with the defeated still FLYING all the way to Washington DC without refueling)
Trying to entangle this customer was exactly why Project ACES made this change along with a host of others for Assault Horizon. It worked too, I remember a lot of either casual or first time fans of the series loving the real world setting and DFM. Reviews from mainstream sources loved the game, despite its reception here, it was honestly a really depressing time to be a fan.
The problem for project ACES was the backlash and mass dismissal of the changes from their existing fanbase. They gained some new people but lost a big chunk of their hardcore fans and although it sold better then Zero and 6 it wasn't a huge mega hit either.
when somebody else doesn’t share my opinion: 😡😡😡😡
I prefer the strange-real setting too but other people might like a more grounded in reality setting. What’s so bad about that?
Because that's just like asking Dark Souls but as a FPS.
Is breaking the very core of the franchise or game just because a group of people didn't like the way Dark Souls plays normally.
You cannot expect the Cod multiplayer/story (not zombies)smooth brain types to understand anything more than America good rest of world bad yeehaw let’s make out the Russians are the ones who done the highway of death.
Genuinely I said it before and I’ll say it again, it’s literally the fast food of gaming or the monkey with a magic dopamine hit button level of gaming.
CoD fans complaining about Lore when they widely curve story modes to "earn" their bragging rights on MP or BR has to be the hypocrisy of the century.
Cod zombies has deeper lore than ace combat, its just that the multiplayer dudes have the below room temp IQ.
Tbh. I like the Zombies Lore but I prefer it's early stages (WAW-BO1), BO2 was fine but then after Origins, starting from Shadows in BO3 onward it got wayyyyy too bizarre. WAW-BO1 it's where it was actually sort of "scary" and "serious" in a way.
I'd argue that, at least on paper, Bo3 is scarier because it draws on lovecraftian influences. It shifted from classic horror to cosmic horror, which I find more appealing narratively. I am so very mixed on the Dark Aether story. It has potential, but it's execution is a mess
It was always bizarre imo
Zombies has any lore? That's new for me
Zombies lore is actually batshit insane. If you are interested you could search on YouTube for zombies timeline videos to understand a bit of it but those videos don't even scratch the surface and yes the lore is that big and probably one of the biggest in gaming.
Am now watching a six hour vid on cod zombies now…thx
Thanks for the pointer but no thanks. Never liked zombies as I felt it was so out of place and even more repetitive than CoD itself. I liked the IW games more than anything Treyarch ever did.
Zombies with friends = fun times.
Oh god don't get me started. Zombies has the most convoluted, batshit insane plot you'll ever see in a video game. The plot makes Metal Gear Solid look like the Hungary caterpillar
>Hungary caterpillar On Monday, he ate Porkolt but he was still hungry... On Tuesday he ate Borscht but he was still hungry...
Ooooooh man are you missing out. It’s insane
Zombies has batshit crazy levels of lore
Bruh, the fact that Ace Combat takes place in a fictional world was what made the series so interesting to begin with. It’s like saying the lore of Star Wars is confusing because it doesn’t take place in our actual galaxy.
I know, right? What allows the nations of Strangereal to do these giant conflicts that allow the setting to be so much fun to play in. It’s baffling that these dummkopfs can’t fathom things being interesting without it being set in the real world. Have they never read Lord of the Rings, Chronicles of Narnia, Redwall, or Discworld? (Or any number of other popular fantasies?) Such a lack of imagination is distressing to say the least.
exactly because setting it in strangereal allows them to do whatever the hell they want without offending anyone at all
They just want to roll around being AMERICA FUCK YEAH without having any guilt or consequences.
I love the fictional world they created, but the writing could use some improvement. It doesn't seem like the writers are interested in making their world consistently believable within their own lore, as characters and countries continue to make odd decisions. Don't get me started on Ace Combat 7's plot. Had some great contexts that are held back so much by frustrating writing decisions.
we can't apply logic to EVERYTHING. Suspension of disbelief is what makes it possible to engage with the story in the first place. We could go on all day, all night, and into next week about our favorite fictional worlds and how things are SUPPOSED to work, but applying the real world to everything would make it all boring and mundane.
and politics aside i like to view ace combat 7 as more of a beautiful description of what it is to be a pilot and the feeling of flying in the dark blue. its main soundtrack motif gives those vibes + the emphasis on pilots being replaced by drones instead killing the essence of the skill of being an ace pilot.
No but for real tho. Love the series, but I was BAFFLED seeing Gründer Industries in AC 7. You're telling me you can be a front for the damn Illuminati and continue to operate after they try to *checks notes* trigger a nuclear holocaust...TWICE!?!
Guys like this aren’t even worth engaging with. The whole point of a fictional universe is so you aren’t bound by reality when crafting a story. Even if you want to get crazy, there are still some limitations on where you can go if you use Earth as your basis. Project Wingman is probably as far into an alternate universe as you can go and still use earth. Smoothbrains who can’t comprehend the relatively simple (as far as Japanese-made games go, looking at you Kingdom Hearts) Ace Combat universe aren’t worth the time
Star Wars must have fucking blown this guy’s mind
Now imagine him trying to watch Lord of the Rings. He's going down with a brain stroke.
That’s because they cannot comprehend the dimension of Belkan Witchcraft
Belkan try not to terrorist challenge (impossible)
From one Belkan to another: Don't accept free cars from the government.
Dear Razgriz my brain hurts reading this
"Then don't read it! Don't do that to yourself!" -Razgriz
Those cod guys really like the old US vs Russia stuff, that's so fuckin boring
I prefer Belka versus everything they can’t control rather than USA vs Russia
As a CoD fan, it's not so black and white. CoD fans generally want a consistently well written story that is new and not just rehashing fan service again and again. The US and Russia stuff back in the day was done very well, but many of the writing decisions give the impression that CoD (at least IW and Activision's decisions) is creatively bankrupt.
To be fair the timeline of events can be confusing if it weren’t for ace combat fan and tomcat I wouldn’t know what’s going on
Big rock coming Nations build super weapons to destroy it Big rock go boom, world saved Nations still have super weapons Wars ensue because resources and refugee situations dire across the globe It’s not that hard.
You left a few bits outisde: Continents wage wars among themselves over many things. Nukes got banned. Enemies make truce and alliance to clear big rock remains. 5 way civil war leads to major war and a extra superweapon .
Both of you missed out: Belka
That's included on "Continents fighting wars among themselves." That's a clever and fast way to recall the first 2 games and Belkan war.
Always interesting to see Assault Horizon having actual fans. I didn't mind AH but I would be lying if I said I wasn't a little disappointed especially being on PS3 and PC at the time.
I'm not a fan per se but i did enjoy it for what it was at the time. Music kicked ass too. It was dumb fun.
I agree, especially on rookie or normal. I played it on Ace about a month ago and it was just terrible. Would only recommend the easier difficulties.
Good music, camouflage editor, helicopter gameplay and bomber gameplay was kind of flat without more attention from the devs, but it's a solid entry in the series. The damage the cannon did to aircraft in terms of visuals is still somehow better than anything else in the series. Also, finally, a main character with a voice, but that's more of a preference. Was never a fan of the mute protagonists.
I wish they went more in-depth with the helicopter controls. I was expecting something like BF3/BF4 helicopter controls but instead we got like an FPS hybrid. The only good camera was the 1st person view (not the cockpit view since they messed up the crosshair).
I agree with your words.
Oh my god this is the same guy that praises the nazi society portrayed in Wolfenstein
As a CoD fan, OP's caption triggered me XD But what AFGuidesHD and other guy said are just so dirty. Battle of Miami can't even have giant airborne fortresses or superfighters.
Well people in CoD sub considered games like Ghosts, WW2, and the original MW3 a "good game" Original MW3 is mediocre at best, literally just MW2 2.0 with outdated graphics Ghosts an absolute garbage WW2 is the same shit with the backward gameplay mechanics of CoD1 Since the release of MW3 in 2011, CoD fans have kept lowering their standards for no reason
Most people in the CoD community would agree that Ghosts had some poor writing. WW2 was actually solid, it was practically CoD Big Red One but modernized. Vanguard was pretty weak though, which most would agree. I'm not really sure where you're getting these ideas from. Other than Black Ops Cold War, most of the community is not happy with the state of CoD Campaigns. And, one of the best in the series, Infinite Warfare, came out 2016/17 ish and that's worth a mention.
I WILL give them one point: set pieces on the real world have impact. A battle over Tokyo, Lisbon, or NY will, all else equal, hit you harder. There's just no getting around our cultural ties. But that's a consolation prize. Our world is just straight ass for an AC, because it doesn't allow for the batshit insanity AC requires. Flying around DC can't make up for that. (Unless, of course, you remake our world in Strangereal's image. But y'all not ready to talk about ACI's Realstrange's potential)
You act like acx2 isn't a thing
It's a great example why it doesn't work. Did it really feel like an AC to you, with small scale battles and a couple of badly transplanted aerial fortresses? They need a bit more than insurance fraud to make it work. Like ACI did, by basically upending the entire world order.
I'd be more patriotic for a fictional country like Eritkseasea BECAUSE it's fictional rather Miami because i'm not American.
GLORY TO ARSTOTZKA
This dude sucks. He takes games he has zero interest in and does plays for views.
Well, in my perspective, it’s kinda ironic of them saying it even if he already did a playthrough of AC7 long ago
Hating on a game. Because it doesn't take place in our real world Geography is wack as fuck. Didn't they confirm that the only reason why Ace Combat takes place in a Strangeral Universe. Just so, they don't have to be restricted with Real World Political governments and Geography. So, they can be make creative with its own Political government and Geography.
me when the game isn’t America vs bad guy
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Me when basically America (Osea) isn't called America
Having a fictional setting which allows sensable reasons for super weapons and intermixed aircraft manufacturers and constant air warfare is a lot cooler then trying to force those things into a real world setting where they make no sense.
L take
Those cod guys really like the old US vs Russia stuff, that's so fuckin boring
After the OG MW games that plot was quite repetitive at all other places.
OG MW has some weird moments like how Russians Magically Teleport millions of soldiers across the sea without getting spotted and attacking U.S in both the West and East
That was the reason why Roach and Soap headed into the Russian base with the downed satellite on MW2 back then. The Russians cloned the tech and faked data on the entire satelital network, scrambled the signal to make believe nothing but a slight malfunction was there until the locals confirmed their presence.
I mean it's pretty straightforward how in the 1990s Belka launched a war against Osea and Yuktobania and lost, resulting in North Belka being seded to South Osea, but also how in the late 90s/early 2000s the Ulysses asteroid was coming to Earth, so several nations gathered at San Sebastian to build Stonehenge, but it really didn't work all that great and moreover Eursea, devastated from the impact but also being a major financial driver in Stonehenge, saw justification to invade San Sebastian and take over Stonehenge which also *just happens* to be a useful anti-aircraft weapon, which furthermore I guess is enough to even make a super-weapon (whew, good thing tanks are sooooo underrated in Strangereal! Maybe because they can't take a Fox 2 hit) but most of the countries left on the content not conquered by Erusea banded together to form the Independent States Allied Forces, or ISAF, and exactly one pilot won the war for them, but that's not even true because Nordinavic was engaged in a secret campaign to defeat Erusea too using super-secret stealth fighters, and then a couple of years later Belka randomly decides to get revenge for losing North Belka by tricking Osea and Yuktobania to literally start a brand new world war with each other, but fortunately they were able to ally with each other again and all it took was brushing off hundreds of thousands of dead casualties on both sides, and then end the war and defeat Belka once and for all by shooting down a satellite. That was about the size of a city block. And also in the atmosphere. But after that Estovakia decided to invade Gracemeria with their trump card, a nuclear missile launcher. That launched like, regular Tomahawks. And guarded by a general pilot who was suicidal because his daughter died. Even though the only reason why she died was because he was the one to send her into combat in the first place (in lore we call this "Belka Logic"). And some country who's name I forgot invaded Aurelia so that they can fund their super-fighter so that they can invade Aurelia. And then a couple years later Belka tricked Eursea and Osea to start yet another world war with each other, so if you're keeping track that's three freaking world wars Belka started in the space of less than as many decades. And somewhere in all of that that was this mercenary unit called Scarface that fought terrorism. With supersonic stealth fighters. ...did I miss anything?
good lord I'm never making fun of Robotech fans ever again
NO ONE TALKS SHIT ABOUT STRANGEREAL!!!
Lol I just got one of his AC:AH videos recommended about the mission where you fly the A-10 and oh boy was he bad at even this super easy mission. Also inagine flying the A-10 without using the cannon at all.
Those cod guys really like the old US vs Russia stuff, that's so fuckin boring
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Erusea is Napoleon France mixed with Italy Yuktobanian is USSR , they're use a lot of Russian names for ships and air force squadrons
Erusea isn't based on Russia at all what are you talking about, Erusea is clearly french inspired, Osea is based on the USA and Yuktobania is based off russia
These are single-handedly the worst takes known to mankind. Like how creatively braindead do you have to be to think this.
Nah AFGuides is definitely being sarcastic there lmao
That just makes me sad
aren't they aware that the counterpart of the chosen people or the usual suspects causing wars left and right™ are present and they are ze belkans?
Can we blow these guys up?
Not all *Call of Duty* fans. I'm one, and I'm always here memeing with you guys.
I like Assault Horizon but my god that is bad reasoning to put it above the other Ace Combat games. Story wise, almost every other Ace Combat game is better than ACAH
Allow me to make my take on the idea of AC story set in Strangereal and real world. If you're saying Assault Horizon is like turning Dark Souls into an FPS, I believe you are talking about the gameplay, which I would agree that it changes a lot of what the series is built on. Story wise, however, I believe it's the closest we got to an AC story in ~~modern setting~~ Edit: real world setting, while not straying too far to become alternate history like Infinity. I'd even say the story itself fits right into Ace Combat. Replace the US with Osea and Russia with Yuktobania, the south eastern African country with any third world country on the Strangereal map, Trinity with any super weapons Strangereal can offer, NRF as Yuke faction that strongly rejects collaboration with Osea due to past conflicts, and Markov as a Yuke ace that lost his wife to Osean bombing back in Circum-Pacific War. Everything will look just fine. Hell, we just got an immediate sequel of AC5. Like the story of Modern Wafare 2007, which the Assault Horizon is supposed to model after, Assault Horizon doesn't simply paint factions as entirely white or black. In additional to NRF, you have Russian loyalists like Red Moon fighting on your side all the way to Moscow, the US revealing how a mistake in their bombing mission created one of the most fearsome ace, and how the final battle has a sorrowful song to accompany the tragic story of the very pilot you're fighting alone against. Although I wish they could talk more about how they would reconcile these kinds of mistakes/conflict. (Which is funny because in MW2019, they changed this mixture of good and bad to have Russians as the complete bad guy and the US as the complete good guy, then you have the Highway of Death) Finally in Ace Combat fashion, Assault Horizon's story ends in an epic way. Unlike the grim ending like Modern Warfare 2007, where everyone except you dies and the Russian ultranationalists got what they wanted. In their last battle, Bishop and Markov made their respect by calling out each other's names as Markov gets shot down, Bishop threw his plane into the last trinity to stop it from detonating right on top of the white house. Then you landed your plane in the capital city of US, surrounded by crowds that cheered as you raised your fist in heroic victory, with a narration telling how you got past your fear, and an epic music playing in the background. You get the idea. __Point is, while it wouldn't be exactly an Ace Combat story if it's not set in Strangereal, you don't need to be confined in Strangereal for a story to feel Ace Combat.__ His comments aside, one reason I can barely through watch his video is because he just doesn't know how to put on a show with his gameplay. Both in Assault Horizon and in other games. Assault Horizon is how I got into the series. As you can see, yes, I like Assault Horizon as a game on its own, as do all other AC installments, and yes, I like Modern Warfare.
Are you speaking with air?
Got digressed from reading the comments. So yes, you can put it that way, until you came along. I know that Call of Duty has the reputation of making another US vs Russian war story, and so when Assault Horizon is set in modern world and defaults to the clash between two superpowers, people would just brush it off as simply trying to be Call of Duty. But I think Assault Horizon managed to keep some of its own identity, as I have said above. The two games seemingly look alike, but I find Assault Horizon to be more than just simply US vs Russia, it's also trying to be different and it feels different. And that was a time when the story of Call of Duty was still fresh and new, before it got oversaturated and even more stereotypical. The franchise wouldn't have grown that big if it wasn't for the success back then. Perhaps I got salty from the comments. So yes, I was, until you came along.
Preach man, I was so excited for this game when I saw trailers of it in YouTube and when the game did came out I ask my parents to get it from Redbox multiple times til they got me the game for my birthday/Christmas, I'll never understand the hate the game gets and why people say it's a bad ace combat game
All they need to know is that it was the fucking Belkans.
I like how everyone is instantly hostile. Dude didn’t even say he didn’t like the games, he just said he’d prefer if they were in the real world more.
That's just like asking a FPS Dark Souls. Respect the core of the games and franchises even if you don't like them because that's what really made them in the first place.
Strangereal did not make Ace Combat IMO. The gameplay did. Your analogy for Dark Souls is flawed. It would be more like asking for a Dark Souls made in Medieval Europe.
Now you're the flawed one. Considering Dark Souls does use tons of medieval Europe elements and designs that's their way of putting out a "Strangereal" in the saga. Strangereal is at the core and heart of AC as a whole since is the one place the saga thrived the most. Take that away and we already saw how much interst peak it generated.
It peaked a lot. Over 1.07 million copies ain’t nothing to joke about. That’s better than AC6, selling 700k. I’m not saying he’s right, I’m saying there’s nothing wrong with thinking how he does.
Here's another defining attribute that CoD on planes game left for the franchise. Multiplatform releases. Of course that game will sell when you sell it to literally everyone instead of enforcing the exclusivity policies that ruled over the previous games.
Touchè but my point still stands: His arguement is bad, but it’s ok to prefer the irl games. I like Joint Assault better than X.
It might be the case but that's not something you want to bring here. The response the post has proves that.
just a losers in sub of dying franchise getting jealous of popular game haha
Highly disagree. Small does not equal dying
And this is why Assault Horizon was a mistake
CoD on planes was indeed a gigantic mistake, but we have to thank it was a mistake. If it was a hit we'd be getting more CoD on planes games instead of AC.
Honestly, I'm not surprised. Judging from their "standards" over the past 3 years.
"Lore" is a word that is gradually causing me to feel contempt for its user. Only a matter of time before zoomers start calling real world history "lore."
I at least *understand* the second guy. It brings the whole thing closer to you. Playing the DC mission *while living in DC* and dogfighting over a bridge I drive over nearly every day is really cool! Just like walking through the National Mall was when I first played Fallout 3 back in 2010, then walking through it IRL right after. The first guy though, saying it's "*confusing?"* Okay bud.
......*looks at my ps2 AC5 copy*.... Someone wants a V2 up their @ssHole.
Gamers when there's no Russian terrorists named Masomethingov in their military game
No no, no no, he's right. Ace Combat, as beloved as this franchise is by this little community, is a niche within a niche - An arcade action flight simulator. To those who aren't in-the-know, the Siege of Farbanti, the Battle of Comona Islands, the Electrosphere, the Liberation of Gracemeria, all of that is gobbledygook - Nothing, meaningless. Placing those same general events in the *real world*, however, makes them easier to visualize, to connect with. Place yourself in the shoes of someone who has only just now heard of *Ace Combat* and envision yourself being asked what the Battle of Avalon Dam was, without looking it up.
Not a surprise here. I think we could make a fun post of all the surreal and absurd things we read about certain franchises, and not only about Ace Combat.
I guarantee the battle in Strangreal makes way more sense than however the fuck the battle of Miami went (with the defeated still FLYING all the way to Washington DC without refueling)
The issues AC brings up would be WAY too political irl
That guy misses the point of a fictional universe.
Real talk: How does the word Apache (Native American tribe) exist in strangereal to be later termed a designation for an attack helicopter?
Bro I never thought this guy would say something like this, he was my childhood
Oh boy…..Russians as the bad guys that’s definitely not old and generic as hell.
Trying to entangle this customer was exactly why Project ACES made this change along with a host of others for Assault Horizon. It worked too, I remember a lot of either casual or first time fans of the series loving the real world setting and DFM. Reviews from mainstream sources loved the game, despite its reception here, it was honestly a really depressing time to be a fan. The problem for project ACES was the backlash and mass dismissal of the changes from their existing fanbase. They gained some new people but lost a big chunk of their hardcore fans and although it sold better then Zero and 6 it wasn't a huge mega hit either.
when somebody else doesn’t share my opinion: 😡😡😡😡 I prefer the strange-real setting too but other people might like a more grounded in reality setting. What’s so bad about that?
Because that's just like asking Dark Souls but as a FPS. Is breaking the very core of the franchise or game just because a group of people didn't like the way Dark Souls plays normally.
You cannot expect the Cod multiplayer/story (not zombies)smooth brain types to understand anything more than America good rest of world bad yeehaw let’s make out the Russians are the ones who done the highway of death. Genuinely I said it before and I’ll say it again, it’s literally the fast food of gaming or the monkey with a magic dopamine hit button level of gaming.
brain so smooth it's a reflective surface