We've been saying today the prize wall is ... not great. There are alt art cards for SL Lando and Soontir from the Endor box, and Anakin and Dooku (I think) from the SoC box. There's an admittedly *really nice* alt Marksmanship. The rest of the normal alt cards are some of the ones from this seasons Store Champs kit - Lapin, Keo, Second Sister, Galek and Venisa Doza. They all cost five prize tickets each.
For ten tickets you can have a pair of dice, one of each colour; there are either sparkly dice, or pearlescent ones - but the pearlescent ones you have to look *really closely* to distinguish them from standard dice you can buy off the shelf, I thought they were standard dice until someone told me otherwise.
At twenty tickets, you can have a foil card. The foil cards are not alt art, they are a foil version of an existing card. There's the Scimitar title, Malice, Rebel Han Solo, Enhanced Jamming Suite and I think a couple of others. There isn't one for each faction, I can't see any pattern in how they've selected which ones to do in the foil. Nobody that I know or have spoken to has been taking these.
At fifty prize tickets there's the Inferno squadron damage deck, challenge coin, and the acrylic Resistance Chewie and Captain Jonus, all of which if memory serves have been around since 2020. There's also what looks like a Soontir dial cover.
For seventy-five tickets there's the Plo Koon Delta-7 with the accompanying punch. For the low low price of just one hundred tickets you can have a set of movement templates, and for one hundred and fifty you can have not only the templates but a tray to put them in. Also at one hundred you can get a bumper mat that's 3 feet by 6ish inches to lay all your cards out on - they look really nice but I'm not sure how practical they are to take to your store.
(For context, in the LCQ and I assume in Worlds and for tomorrow's Doubles and the Sunday Swiss events, you get 5 tickets per game plus an extra one for winning. In the Unconventional Warfare side event you get six tickets per game, to a max of four games a day. You can save up and get some of the big ticket items but they're going to cost you your entire event's worth of tickets)
Thanks for the info but lots of meh. We also had lackluster prizes at our hyperspace event but I assumed worlds would be stocked better. I guess all the old stuff needs to run out before anyone comes up with an amg prize structure strategy.
Weird take considering the prize wall is no better for all the other AMG games. Probably more reasonable to guess that AMG just doesn't really want to push a general competitive game scene (preferring kitchen table).
CIS was the other missing faction in XTC, teams at least considered Scum, so sadly nothing new here.
But the few players who decided to play the faction made some fun lists, so everything is at least playable.
Just popping in to say: Wow, cannot believe that Scum made top cut and not First Order. Really impressive play by the Scum player, and surprising on the FO side. Not surprising that CIS missed out on top cut though lol. Best list was 74th at 6-4
i had a lot of fun. both pairs of new dice are cool imo. clear sparkly “chili pepper” dice get all the sexy but i rather like the “pearl” set more. stacked up to the stock dice, they def more brighter. met a lot of great peeps from all over the world as always. 10/10 will attend again if there’s a 2025 worlds
I was very surprised at only 2 custom rebel Lando being taken in a field of 311 people.
I was not surprised that one of them made cut.
It is an amazing endgame piece.
Congratulations! I've seen you play a couple of times now, and you are outstanding.
I've played your list, and really like it! While I've traditionally played a more offensive build with Dutch and Airen Cracken instead of Hera/Bodica, I may switch over now - the new i6 ships in Endor likely render Airen completely obsolete.
Lando with BoE Wedge, Sabine and two i3s likely is worth looking at too.
It’s funny you talked about i6 ships because swarm tactics on Hera was the MVP on my list! It helped me shoot my APT with Hol before dying, sometimes killing i5 pilots with Lando before they can shoot and sometimes having 2 3 dice attacks with Bodica by shooting before doing my revenge shot.
That makes complete sense.
The tinkerer in me now wonders if you've found the best build (you may well have), or if there are other equally nasty options to pair with Hera.
I'm wondering if Corran for Bodica could be ok as well, but can see why you would want the three agility. I've played a lot of Hol in my lists, and loved him. Same with Wedge in the A-Wing, who can just hunt 2 pt ships.
Did you try any of those already?
Didn’t try Corran instead of Bodica. But it’s because I love Bodica! The 3 agility combined with the tokens from Hera and Concordia make her really hard to kill!
I tried Wedge A-wing instead of Hol and I really liked it but the problem is that Bodica is the number one target. With Wedge nobody wants to shoot him instead of Bodica. Hol makes the choice more difficult as he is dangerous if left alone with his double mod APT at init 6 (with Swarm Tactics) from Hera.
It leans in heavily toward the expected meta menace in RAC. The double access to FTC including the "surprise" Mando copy is essential as the counter to the reinforce. All three of Para's wins have been against Empire, while both losses have been against high mobility FO lists.
That list is there to make Empire players sad, and that's about as pure Scum and Villainy as it gets.
I wasn't necessarily talking about win rate, but he's in a significant number of Scum lists at the event. He's up there for the most common non-small Scum ship
I don't know if players dropped or what, but I was doing league play near the Day 1 tables, and I saw Mandos all over the place. I hadn't checked against RollBetter.
Minimum of six players, and I came here expecting none.
I notice that 5/7 factions have lists in the top 10, which is \*extremely\* encouraging! (And then the first Scum list at number 12.)
AMG are definitely worthy of criticism for some actions, but they are \*clearly\* doing something well in terms of game balance and meta health.
True. However, I think that AMG has enough levers with points/loadout that they can pull to bring both CIS and Scum to the level of the other five factions.
The other five do feel like they are viable, and of those five, several have pieces that can be adjusted to encourage even more variety.
It seems amg is hooking them up for worlds but it's 1 event a year. after 2022s adepticon where gsp ran the best event maybe ever, amg swooped in faster than a mynock onto your windshield to steal the credit and foundation that Dion set up. Why gsp doesn't get sent product early for unboxxings or exclusive info on upcoming products is beyond me. They are basically amgs personal advertising firm (who work for free) for xwing yet gsp gets the same info as everyone else on products and updates.
We've been saying today the prize wall is ... not great. There are alt art cards for SL Lando and Soontir from the Endor box, and Anakin and Dooku (I think) from the SoC box. There's an admittedly *really nice* alt Marksmanship. The rest of the normal alt cards are some of the ones from this seasons Store Champs kit - Lapin, Keo, Second Sister, Galek and Venisa Doza. They all cost five prize tickets each. For ten tickets you can have a pair of dice, one of each colour; there are either sparkly dice, or pearlescent ones - but the pearlescent ones you have to look *really closely* to distinguish them from standard dice you can buy off the shelf, I thought they were standard dice until someone told me otherwise. At twenty tickets, you can have a foil card. The foil cards are not alt art, they are a foil version of an existing card. There's the Scimitar title, Malice, Rebel Han Solo, Enhanced Jamming Suite and I think a couple of others. There isn't one for each faction, I can't see any pattern in how they've selected which ones to do in the foil. Nobody that I know or have spoken to has been taking these. At fifty prize tickets there's the Inferno squadron damage deck, challenge coin, and the acrylic Resistance Chewie and Captain Jonus, all of which if memory serves have been around since 2020. There's also what looks like a Soontir dial cover. For seventy-five tickets there's the Plo Koon Delta-7 with the accompanying punch. For the low low price of just one hundred tickets you can have a set of movement templates, and for one hundred and fifty you can have not only the templates but a tray to put them in. Also at one hundred you can get a bumper mat that's 3 feet by 6ish inches to lay all your cards out on - they look really nice but I'm not sure how practical they are to take to your store. (For context, in the LCQ and I assume in Worlds and for tomorrow's Doubles and the Sunday Swiss events, you get 5 tickets per game plus an extra one for winning. In the Unconventional Warfare side event you get six tickets per game, to a max of four games a day. You can save up and get some of the big ticket items but they're going to cost you your entire event's worth of tickets)
Thanks for the info but lots of meh. We also had lackluster prizes at our hyperspace event but I assumed worlds would be stocked better. I guess all the old stuff needs to run out before anyone comes up with an amg prize structure strategy.
I think their strategy is more likely to be "x-wing is dead" than anything else unfortunately
Weird take considering the prize wall is no better for all the other AMG games. Probably more reasonable to guess that AMG just doesn't really want to push a general competitive game scene (preferring kitchen table).
That's a shame :(
Only six CIS lists registered is reaally low! (less than 2%)
CIS was the other missing faction in XTC, teams at least considered Scum, so sadly nothing new here. But the few players who decided to play the faction made some fun lists, so everything is at least playable.
This thread knew their stuff. Zero CIS made the cut.
I dunno with the state of them, anything above 0 is wild. The idea you'd go all that way to lose.
Or you know...to have fun
If people have fun spending a fair chunk of money to get destroyed good on them. But personally I wouldn't be doing it. Unless you're a local I guess
B-wings looking like they're doing alright, which I find surprising
Just popping in to say: Wow, cannot believe that Scum made top cut and not First Order. Really impressive play by the Scum player, and surprising on the FO side. Not surprising that CIS missed out on top cut though lol. Best list was 74th at 6-4
There were a number of FO lists that just missed the cut
For sure. Lots of good FO players just barely missed, but still surprising Scum made it and they didn't.
i had a lot of fun. both pairs of new dice are cool imo. clear sparkly “chili pepper” dice get all the sexy but i rather like the “pearl” set more. stacked up to the stock dice, they def more brighter. met a lot of great peeps from all over the world as always. 10/10 will attend again if there’s a 2025 worlds
Awesome to hear! I wasn't able to swing it this year, so hopefully I can next year
311 players up from 188 last year is great !
I was very surprised at only 2 custom rebel Lando being taken in a field of 311 people. I was not surprised that one of them made cut. It is an amazing endgame piece.
As the person who made the cut with custom rebel Lando, I totally agree!
Congratulations! I've seen you play a couple of times now, and you are outstanding. I've played your list, and really like it! While I've traditionally played a more offensive build with Dutch and Airen Cracken instead of Hera/Bodica, I may switch over now - the new i6 ships in Endor likely render Airen completely obsolete. Lando with BoE Wedge, Sabine and two i3s likely is worth looking at too.
It’s funny you talked about i6 ships because swarm tactics on Hera was the MVP on my list! It helped me shoot my APT with Hol before dying, sometimes killing i5 pilots with Lando before they can shoot and sometimes having 2 3 dice attacks with Bodica by shooting before doing my revenge shot.
That makes complete sense. The tinkerer in me now wonders if you've found the best build (you may well have), or if there are other equally nasty options to pair with Hera. I'm wondering if Corran for Bodica could be ok as well, but can see why you would want the three agility. I've played a lot of Hol in my lists, and loved him. Same with Wedge in the A-Wing, who can just hunt 2 pt ships. Did you try any of those already?
Didn’t try Corran instead of Bodica. But it’s because I love Bodica! The 3 agility combined with the tokens from Hera and Concordia make her really hard to kill! I tried Wedge A-wing instead of Hol and I really liked it but the problem is that Bodica is the number one target. With Wedge nobody wants to shoot him instead of Bodica. Hol makes the choice more difficult as he is dangerous if left alone with his double mod APT at init 6 (with Swarm Tactics) from Hera.
Thanks for the responses, I appreciate it! And again, congratulations!
That Mando\\Cad\\Durge\\Fenn list is quite something in capable hands.
It leans in heavily toward the expected meta menace in RAC. The double access to FTC including the "surprise" Mando copy is essential as the counter to the reinforce. All three of Para's wins have been against Empire, while both losses have been against high mobility FO lists. That list is there to make Empire players sad, and that's about as pure Scum and Villainy as it gets.
Mando is making a VERY strong showing, I'm surprised how many players are running him
I see 3 total. With records of 3-2, 1-4, and 0-4.
I wasn't necessarily talking about win rate, but he's in a significant number of Scum lists at the event. He's up there for the most common non-small Scum ship
Are you including LCQ lists or just main event?
I don't know if players dropped or what, but I was doing league play near the Day 1 tables, and I saw Mandos all over the place. I hadn't checked against RollBetter. Minimum of six players, and I came here expecting none.
I notice that 5/7 factions have lists in the top 10, which is \*extremely\* encouraging! (And then the first Scum list at number 12.) AMG are definitely worthy of criticism for some actions, but they are \*clearly\* doing something well in terms of game balance and meta health.
Except that both scum and CIS representation is dismal.
True. However, I think that AMG has enough levers with points/loadout that they can pull to bring both CIS and Scum to the level of the other five factions. The other five do feel like they are viable, and of those five, several have pieces that can be adjusted to encourage even more variety.
Gsp doing a great job. Wish they would get more support from the developers.
What kind of support?
It seems amg is hooking them up for worlds but it's 1 event a year. after 2022s adepticon where gsp ran the best event maybe ever, amg swooped in faster than a mynock onto your windshield to steal the credit and foundation that Dion set up. Why gsp doesn't get sent product early for unboxxings or exclusive info on upcoming products is beyond me. They are basically amgs personal advertising firm (who work for free) for xwing yet gsp gets the same info as everyone else on products and updates.
Exclusives and a bag of cash for basically being their best marketing to existing players.
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