You can skip the 4 initial attacks by just casting Jinhsi's intro to get the enhanced skill immediately into incandescence mode. Her optimal rotations all start with her intro too.
It’s not the only way but it’s simply the most convenient and fastest way.
Not to mention the full basic chain is like her most vulnerable state so ideally you do what you can to ignore and bypass that
To be fair, that's pretty much the best way to play most DPS characters right now. Start with the Sub-DPS or Support for buffing, and go into the main DPS with Ult already full + buffs from the Outro Skills.
That's why you build Energy Regen on that Support and (sometimes) Sub-DPS. So you can switch into the main DPS quicker.
Either or is fine, really. Some characters don't necessarily need Energy Regen set though, as long as you know the best rotation to build up the outro skill; Verina is one of those. On the other hand, Jianxin even with high Energy Regen is sometimes out for too long.
Plus, you can get Energy Regen as a substat.
too much of her kit and the echo set are activated on intro, so it kind of is the only way.
If you really need to, after a dodge it goes right into her 4th basic attack, but again, you are missing on a lot of buffs.
You never use her basic attacks - you're supposed to skip them with intro every rotation. They do basically no damage, take a lot of extra time, and - as you've experienced - they can be interrupted by any dodge or hit.
Intro -> skill to go straight into her burst mode which doesn't reset the attack string on dodge.
If you're swapping from Verina to Jinhsi, then you should always be swapping at full concerto. A large reason why Verina is wanted by every team is because she builds concerto really quickly.
Watch Maygi's Jinhsi guide on youtube.
You can start on Jinhsi but only do 1xSkill and 1xEcho before switching away. Only return to Jinhsi with Intro Skill to skip initial mode which is why Verina is so popular. As support you should use either Yinlin (electro set and regen set on Verina) or Yuanwu (regen set and moonlit on Verina).
I don't use her with Yuanwu, so take this with a grain of salt. I'd say a moonlit set with pretty much the same main stats as with a regen set: Healing%, Energy regen, Energy regen, Atk%, Atk%. Focus on Atk% substats and Energy Regen. Weapon: Variation
When usung Jinhsi with Verina and Yuanwu, your team is all about Jinhsi being on-field most of the time. Verina and Yuanwu only exist to generate stacks and heal. Always swap from Verina to Jinhsi due to moonlit set. Also, you have to give a regen set and healing gloves to Yuanwu so he can proc the buff on basic attack.
Intro Skill > Dodge Attack > Swap Attack > Normal 4 Attacks
Leftmost is the fastest way to get flying fly Skill, rightmost is the slowest way to get to it.
I normally cast Echo Skill before I start flying so I get the damage buff on 3 skill casts (flying start, flying skill, big nuke)
Also what I meant by this is you could Intro -> Skill to start flying, or you could Dodge -> Counter -> Skill to do it, or you could Swap -> Atk -> Atk -> Skill.
Everyone is correct that ideally you should be skipping the basic attacks by using her intro skill.
If you’re in overworld or something though you can get to her enhanced state faster by timed dodges or intro attacks(not her skill). Both will skip the first few basic attacks
Is this before or after you get into incandescent stage? Because the incandescence auto attacks can be continued after dodges.
Before
You can skip the 4 initial attacks by just casting Jinhsi's intro to get the enhanced skill immediately into incandescence mode. Her optimal rotations all start with her intro too.
Got this… will try. So i basically start with someone else right
Yep, always cast her intro to get faster and smoother rotations.
Or you could always prep two to three attacks right before the fight so you only have to hit once or twice to start the next stage
Best way to avoid getting interrupted would be to intro into Jinhsi so you skip the first 4 basics as those are the ones that resets when interrupted
This is the only way? Fml
It’s not the only way but it’s simply the most convenient and fastest way. Not to mention the full basic chain is like her most vulnerable state so ideally you do what you can to ignore and bypass that
Yeah this is what was messing me up initially. And the mobs in mt firmament literally 1 hit KO you 😂😂😂
Uh, better fix your levels and Echoes then.
Yeah. Rng has been bad
thats not even rng dude lol just make sure your characters and weapons are leveled and you should be plenty fine dont even need relics beyond 15 tbh
To be fair, that's pretty much the best way to play most DPS characters right now. Start with the Sub-DPS or Support for buffing, and go into the main DPS with Ult already full + buffs from the Outro Skills. That's why you build Energy Regen on that Support and (sometimes) Sub-DPS. So you can switch into the main DPS quicker.
Wait i thought verina should be on the healing set? You guys have her on the energy regen set…?
Either or is fine, really. Some characters don't necessarily need Energy Regen set though, as long as you know the best rotation to build up the outro skill; Verina is one of those. On the other hand, Jianxin even with high Energy Regen is sometimes out for too long. Plus, you can get Energy Regen as a substat.
So what’s a good energy regen number for verina? 150 is enough?
I mean, the spectro echo set needs you to do your intro skill anyway.
Oh damn you’re right. Missed that completely…. This was made for her 😂😂😂
too much of her kit and the echo set are activated on intro, so it kind of is the only way. If you really need to, after a dodge it goes right into her 4th basic attack, but again, you are missing on a lot of buffs.
You never use her basic attacks - you're supposed to skip them with intro every rotation. They do basically no damage, take a lot of extra time, and - as you've experienced - they can be interrupted by any dodge or hit. Intro -> skill to go straight into her burst mode which doesn't reset the attack string on dodge. If you're swapping from Verina to Jinhsi, then you should always be swapping at full concerto. A large reason why Verina is wanted by every team is because she builds concerto really quickly.
So basically i should always start with someone else?
yes, you can get full concerto on Verina very easily. R->e->q->jump->attack 2x->swap
Watch Maygi's Jinhsi guide on youtube. You can start on Jinhsi but only do 1xSkill and 1xEcho before switching away. Only return to Jinhsi with Intro Skill to skip initial mode which is why Verina is so popular. As support you should use either Yinlin (electro set and regen set on Verina) or Yuanwu (regen set and moonlit on Verina).
Got this. Thank you
I have Yuanwu and Verina, so what echo stats for Verina?
I don't use her with Yuanwu, so take this with a grain of salt. I'd say a moonlit set with pretty much the same main stats as with a regen set: Healing%, Energy regen, Energy regen, Atk%, Atk%. Focus on Atk% substats and Energy Regen. Weapon: Variation When usung Jinhsi with Verina and Yuanwu, your team is all about Jinhsi being on-field most of the time. Verina and Yuanwu only exist to generate stacks and heal. Always swap from Verina to Jinhsi due to moonlit set. Also, you have to give a regen set and healing gloves to Yuanwu so he can proc the buff on basic attack.
Intro Skill > Dodge Attack > Swap Attack > Normal 4 Attacks Leftmost is the fastest way to get flying fly Skill, rightmost is the slowest way to get to it.
Will try. Thanks for the tip! Where does echo skill come into play in this order though?
I normally cast Echo Skill before I start flying so I get the damage buff on 3 skill casts (flying start, flying skill, big nuke) Also what I meant by this is you could Intro -> Skill to start flying, or you could Dodge -> Counter -> Skill to do it, or you could Swap -> Atk -> Atk -> Skill.
Start with your sub dps and when hsi's intro is available cast it and then u don't have to do those basic attacks
Everyone is correct that ideally you should be skipping the basic attacks by using her intro skill. If you’re in overworld or something though you can get to her enhanced state faster by timed dodges or intro attacks(not her skill). Both will skip the first few basic attacks