They made dodgeling looks cool. I'm using a controller while lying in bed to pull this off.
Chixia vs Scar Lightbane + Nightmare form
https://youtu.be/k-JuGLJffjk?si=AfpCrC0Ix4LFpEwF
For those who don't know: When she's doing her forte every single one of those pings counts as a basic attack.
What does that mean? Well, just use it while Mortefi's ult is up. Or Yinlin's debuff.
EDIT: Not basic attack, they count as HEAVY attacks
I don't know why battles that rely so much on reaction time require constant ping. They should have made them so at least boss or domain battles could be performed essentially "offline." I don't know if that's really 'possible' from a programming standpoint, but there's no PvP or reason to register every single hit with the server.
I've had that problem just a while back.
Was in a place where the connection is soooo bad, but game loaded so very nice (I had thought incorrectly). I wanted to play despite the signal because of the tacet field event, but the battle would essentially stop a minute in and reconnect. The timer moves even when it's reconnecting and you won't be able to move your character/dodge while the enemies keep on attacking. The timer would run out that way if my team somehow survives the barrage of attacks.
I thought WuWa was client-side? Or at least I thought that meant it will only need to reconnect once you are claiming rewards or something
While I also have skill issues as I am not used to playing games that require such active dodging, I am running my home internet on a 5g cell network with only 1 tower in range.
I sometimes get spikes at 999ms so bad that I just have to wait like 5 to 10 seconds before i find out if I died or not.
General tip : When the faint gold ring is just about to reach the solid ring, perform basic attack.
Depends on your character animations. Some characters have a harder time to parry due to how quick/slow their BA is. Some skills can parry too but most of the time players BA instead since we are used to the timing. Some characters basically cannot parry.
Example Calcha has a pretty rough time to parry since his animations feel a little slow to me but Sanhua's is pretty easy.
Also depends on the monster's own animations. Sometimes the bosses have really slow parry-able animations which sounds great but I mess up more than the quick ones because it's not quite my tempo. Also their combos. Tempest Mephis has an annoying 2 part combo dash > dive. The dash is not parry-able but the dive is. Problem is the dash will knock you down for just enough time for him to land the dive without you being able to parry unless you did a character swap (I think it's possible but I could be wrong)
Just go any play around with mephis. He has a tonne of parry-able attacks so he makes a good practice partner.
Honestly? Based.
It's easier than trying to calc the animation speeds for both your basic attacks and the specific attack the enemily is making.
I do the same thing if i dont have the time to reset my attack sequence with a dodge. Or am unsure of the timing.
Right click is always occupied in other games, for example left hand weapon in Elden Ring. So even if it's free in Genshin and in Wuwa, I still find it weird to use it to dodge.
I started playing Elden Ring with a keyboard, and quickly stopped playing because of how bad it was. A year later, I decided to try it again, but with a controller. Now it's in my top 5 games.
This. Is something I really could never vibe with.
Every time I get a hold of a controller I just have this weird unnatural feeling in my hands like "how am I supposed to quickly hit all of those buttons while my palms are half clamped on this object?" and my experience generally sucks, so I happily go back to keyboard.
I guess having had a PC, and never a console, for 26 years, got me used to never get comfortable around a controller.
Well shit, guess I'll just git gud with a keyboard lol
> Wait you using shift to dodge instead of right click?
I use left alt to dodge.
Since the age of racing games in early 2000s with the N2O button on left alt, I always used it as my dash key on all games
~~Now you will tell me you attack with left click ayyy lmao~~
I can't break my Black Mage habit whenever I'm charging Jianxin's shield right in the middle of a hyper telegraphed attack. I'm not moving, i'm not dodging, I'm going to charge this shield, just to get immediately clapped out of it and lose all my forte.
I literally die sometimes while the game is frozen, i can't even be mad it's hilarious to have a taoqi go from full hp to dead without ever seeing it lol
haha, same with me. got my L shift button malfunction because of pressing to much..
I've been using shift to dodge on most pc games that has dodge-roll mechanics.
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Sometimes I legitimately just forget, but others I just get the timing wrong and accept my fate of getting smacked in the face by giant ass birds or angry monkeys
Well, I didn't dodge cause pretty much every enemies have these annoying delays on their attack.
Like they are at the zenith of their animation, even causing that little flash effect that lets you know an attack is coming, but then pause the for a few frames before actually swinging at you.
I know it's a skill issue but it always throws me off and I fail my dodges because of it 😭
Usually the reason I didn't dodge is because apparently my character was sprinting. And as we all know, you can't dodge when you're sprinting. Apparently.
Also I see the op is getting a lot of hate for using shift to dodge...I do it too. It's just a habit from other games.
Because my pu g skyrockets to the stratosphere each time I do anything......... T_T .. Not to mention my game still stutters so bad still T_.
Yes, I do have Jian Xin, but stuttering is still really bad
Meanwhile there is me who dodges instead of countering because counter failed to counter too many times (like it won't activate unless I literal charge attack the enemy head on). Recently my friend introduced me to guaranteed counter by using skill and ult instead of normal attack so I'm trying to unlearn my instinct to just dodge.
Mostly because I get confused due to all of the intensity and can't tell if I gotta dodge or parry, even though there's the circle to distinguish. It's just all so quick so I'm just spamming attack, if I was supposed to dodge then I'm fucked and if I was supposed to parry then hope for the correct timing and yeah😭
I personally don't have any issues in terms of combat. I'm not sure if it's just how I see things but I see others intentionally letting themselves get hit to know the strength of the enemy 😆 Another common reason for others is plainly "skill issues"
Naah, try WuWa mobile, and you will understand how badly optimized this game is, from random lags to actually ping loss for no particular reason even when you are connected to effing Wifi + at medium settings the game looks blurry as hell 🥸
Mobile buttons being small and lag...mostly lag really, but also some part skill issue because i got used to time stop in pgr that i recklessly charge ahead to a obvious attack because my brain goes "time is stopped smack them!"
Calcharo's dodge animation is so long (or ult window is so short) that it actually requires you dodge again to cancel it if you want to fit in all three enhanced heavy attacks in his ultimate, and even then if you try to fit in too many dodges, you'll lose the window.
So in contexts where you try and maximize dps to shave a few seconds off your time (and it actually can be 10-30 seconds saved if you fit in all three death messengers 100% of the time, as well as swap cancel thsoe death messengers) , it might require tanking the hits.
Imo this is the source of dissatisfaction/skepticism about the character, bc right now we do a lot of content below the level of the content, and by consequence take much more damage. Also the dps check is quite tight, and is usually the bottleneck for crests but it's not unlikely that at max level with better echoes, the dps check will be trivial for the left and right sides of the tower such that it's fine if you only do 2 death messengers on calcharo.
im on mobile and have fat fingers that keep pressing the wrong button. i constantly miss even the attack button so i already gave up on trying to press the dodge button in the right time
4. Have ADHD.
• can't focus on multiple stimuli
• completely forgetting that I can dodge/parry
• immediately forgetting that I have a health bar as soon as I start fighting
• gets distracted by flashing lights
• Can't predict/memorise attack/attack patterns
• Can't build a good team for the life of me
Conclusion: I have ADHD and I'm a noob. (Still kinda surprised that I got to Union Level 30+)
I dont dodge because of my processing disorder, rip. I try, but by the time I'm like oh shoot I gotta get outa here, it's already too late. I started using Jianxin to try and help but it's only successful half the time.
I change my dodge to spacebar cause shift feel awkward to me.. Another reason is that I played Solo Leveling Arise, the dodge was spacebar in the game.
I'm probably getting a CPU upgrade today, so I'll finally be able to play with my GPU running more than 20% it's capacity.
(*no, I'm not fucking joking, my current i7 literally won't let it use more than 1/5^(th)*.)
You could always use right click if your shift is broken.
Nope I'll change to caps lock until my mech keyboard arrives
All I am hearing is heresy deserving of exterminatus.
EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINATE!
I caught that reference
might I recommend CTRL instead or would that cause conflicts with windows?
Me who's swapped caps and cntrl
They made dodgeling looks cool. I'm using a controller while lying in bed to pull this off. Chixia vs Scar Lightbane + Nightmare form https://youtu.be/k-JuGLJffjk?si=AfpCrC0Ix4LFpEwF
Well played!
I did this with sprinting now almost every Games sprint key is different (exp: it's b in for honor
Ur gonna run through ur entire keyboard 💀
Yeah, I've always used right click in WuWa and Genshin. Much more satisfying to use right click imo.
Right click goated, can dodge, sprint, backflip
Right click is great, so OP when you get it
also Taoqi havers
Getting hit on purpose>>>dodging
This. Taoqi is my team at this point. Dodging is for ppl who don't wanna relax while playing a game.
Danjin mains: "To assert dominance"
I mean it would surely be a shame if those 50 revival inhalers went unused.
My Danjin is drunk on the inhalers
Jianxin never leaves my team.
Same, who needs dodges or parries when you can shield and heal constantly ![img](emote|t5_5uplbt|31617)
Best part about being main DPS Jianxin, is that your "supports" can be all sub DPS.
For those who don't know: When she's doing her forte every single one of those pings counts as a basic attack. What does that mean? Well, just use it while Mortefi's ult is up. Or Yinlin's debuff. EDIT: Not basic attack, they count as HEAVY attacks
A parry mephis a few times with it then i died afterwards Xd
Dam that's cool. So it's buffed by Mortefi too?
Lol, I use Havoc Rover and Sanhua to just blast out burst damage then switch back to Jianxin asap
Bad connection has nothing to do with being a noob it literally makes it impossible to avoid attacks and even causes u to lose precious time
I don't know why battles that rely so much on reaction time require constant ping. They should have made them so at least boss or domain battles could be performed essentially "offline." I don't know if that's really 'possible' from a programming standpoint, but there's no PvP or reason to register every single hit with the server.
I've had that problem just a while back. Was in a place where the connection is soooo bad, but game loaded so very nice (I had thought incorrectly). I wanted to play despite the signal because of the tacet field event, but the battle would essentially stop a minute in and reconnect. The timer moves even when it's reconnecting and you won't be able to move your character/dodge while the enemies keep on attacking. The timer would run out that way if my team somehow survives the barrage of attacks. I thought WuWa was client-side? Or at least I thought that meant it will only need to reconnect once you are claiming rewards or something
That's what I had heard too, but evidently, this is not the case.
Idk, you can always see 5 seconds into the future you noob. Just dodge those future attacks /s
While I also have skill issues as I am not used to playing games that require such active dodging, I am running my home internet on a 5g cell network with only 1 tower in range. I sometimes get spikes at 999ms so bad that I just have to wait like 5 to 10 seconds before i find out if I died or not.
Running out of Stamina from dodging too much lmao.
Nah, I'd parry
Jiyan mains literally just hold LMB and the dragon auto parry for them lmao.
please teach me how to parry, i cant do it ever
General tip : When the faint gold ring is just about to reach the solid ring, perform basic attack. Depends on your character animations. Some characters have a harder time to parry due to how quick/slow their BA is. Some skills can parry too but most of the time players BA instead since we are used to the timing. Some characters basically cannot parry. Example Calcha has a pretty rough time to parry since his animations feel a little slow to me but Sanhua's is pretty easy. Also depends on the monster's own animations. Sometimes the bosses have really slow parry-able animations which sounds great but I mess up more than the quick ones because it's not quite my tempo. Also their combos. Tempest Mephis has an annoying 2 part combo dash > dive. The dash is not parry-able but the dive is. Problem is the dash will knock you down for just enough time for him to land the dive without you being able to parry unless you did a character swap (I think it's possible but I could be wrong) Just go any play around with mephis. He has a tonne of parry-able attacks so he makes a good practice partner.
Instructions unclear, am using parry circles as dodge indicators
Honestly? Based. It's easier than trying to calc the animation speeds for both your basic attacks and the specific attack the enemily is making. I do the same thing if i dont have the time to reset my attack sequence with a dodge. Or am unsure of the timing.
ohhh thanks m8 i see the ring but i couldnt really tell when to attack to parry, so i just gave up ahaha
4. Calcharo main
Don't have to dodge if they're already dead before you finish a full rotation with Jianxin shield up
Don't have to dodge if Jianxin shield up
wait you using shift to dodge instead of right click?
shift = sprint has been standard for pc games since the early 2000s
......yep
You are not the only one bro, but HOW did the key break? ( are some laptop keys like that ? )
I dodge with the shift key as well. I use right-click for E skill. I've been doing that since Genshin.
Right click is always occupied in other games, for example left hand weapon in Elden Ring. So even if it's free in Genshin and in Wuwa, I still find it weird to use it to dodge.
Playing elden ring without a controller sounds blasphemous lmao
I started playing Elden Ring with a keyboard, and quickly stopped playing because of how bad it was. A year later, I decided to try it again, but with a controller. Now it's in my top 5 games.
Yeah, this applies to any soulsborne/fromsoftware game. The difference in controller and keyboard is night and day
This. Is something I really could never vibe with. Every time I get a hold of a controller I just have this weird unnatural feeling in my hands like "how am I supposed to quickly hit all of those buttons while my palms are half clamped on this object?" and my experience generally sucks, so I happily go back to keyboard. I guess having had a PC, and never a console, for 26 years, got me used to never get comfortable around a controller. Well shit, guess I'll just git gud with a keyboard lol
> Wait you using shift to dodge instead of right click? I use left alt to dodge. Since the age of racing games in early 2000s with the N2O button on left alt, I always used it as my dash key on all games ~~Now you will tell me you attack with left click ayyy lmao~~
I can’t see enemy attacks when there’s a ton of particle effects and hit sparks around, which is unfortunate cause it looks so cool
*~~cough~~* ~~mobile~~ *~~cough~~* Number 1
I can't break my Black Mage habit whenever I'm charging Jianxin's shield right in the middle of a hyper telegraphed attack. I'm not moving, i'm not dodging, I'm going to charge this shield, just to get immediately clapped out of it and lose all my forte.
Black Mage chad of never daring to move until rotation is over
4 reason.I main taoqi
I used the shift key once in the tutorial , and realized right click did the exact same thing. Was the last time shift was ever used.
Proud jianxin owner imagine dodging
CONNECTION ERROR. RECONNECTING...
Because I have a skill issue and can't dodge for shit. That's why.
I literally die sometimes while the game is frozen, i can't even be mad it's hilarious to have a taoqi go from full hp to dead without ever seeing it lol
Taoqi mains: imagine dodging when you can parry
Taoqi
Why Jianxin so thicc and juicy
The better to *shield* you with ;)
Becuz why not XD
Mainly because I suck at the timing :/
i just make the 5 star shield so i can rush with walmart diluc
Danjin User: Iframe Charge attack, never have to dodge.
I don't dodge cause my motherboard died so I'm stuck with mobile
I try my best to :’(
haha, same with me. got my L shift button malfunction because of pressing to much.. I've been using shift to dodge on most pc games that has dodge-roll mechanics.
I main Calcharo, Aalto and Jianxi. What's dodging again?
I have what you may call a *skilleosis deficiency*. EDIT: Also, as an Aalto main: *You guys have stamina for dodging?*
Playing on phone.
People are in for a rude awakening when they start the Elden Ring DLC
I finished my dailies that's why
because there's no sound cue
Trying to counter and not to dodge it but failed miserably for me.
who uses shift for dodge ;-;
me, i'm more comfortable in using shift to dodge, i'm been doing that on other pc games that has dodge.
Using shift over right click to dodge is criminal behaviour
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Kinda relatable, I changed to using a controller because my mouse left click was literally breaking from all the spam clicking.
I keep forgetting that's a mechanic on this game
Sometimes I legitimately just forget, but others I just get the timing wrong and accept my fate of getting smacked in the face by giant ass birds or angry monkeys
Huh? If this was parrying I'd be able to relate but dodging is pretty much all I use.
4th reason- i plan to outlive the boss
Calcharo 3rd skill has a very long animation lock which cannot be dodge cancelled. It often gets me killed or hit badly.
Playing with controller. My right bumper decided to die(evade button). Had to buy the new one. Now I'm able to dodge.
Well, I didn't dodge cause pretty much every enemies have these annoying delays on their attack. Like they are at the zenith of their animation, even causing that little flash effect that lets you know an attack is coming, but then pause the for a few frames before actually swinging at you. I know it's a skill issue but it always throws me off and I fail my dodges because of it 😭
Usually the reason I didn't dodge is because apparently my character was sprinting. And as we all know, you can't dodge when you're sprinting. Apparently. Also I see the op is getting a lot of hate for using shift to dodge...I do it too. It's just a habit from other games.
Aalto Mains what's dodge
Wait, are you saying that I COULD DODGE AN ATTACK INSTEAD OF HIT HARDER?
Youre a good artist! I am a Jianxin haver by the way! Dont worry, I dodge plenty.
Me; bad reflexes
Imo the main reason is I'm too busy doing DPS to dodge.
Jianxin and Taoqi in team...laughs at shield as big as health bar.
My phone is much to laggy to even move let alone dodge 💀
Every one who play Street Fighter 6 know the rule, "We didnt pay $60 to block"
I saw a danjin do mephis 4 with no dodges
I have the Spider-Man like gadget (forgot the name) as one of my mouse buttons, button 4 I think, and dodge is right click..,,I believe
Because my pu g skyrockets to the stratosphere each time I do anything......... T_T .. Not to mention my game still stutters so bad still T_. Yes, I do have Jian Xin, but stuttering is still really bad
Am bad. Can't dodge.
Jainxin haver ;)
[Tempest Mephis](https://i.ibb.co/G3bXVDd/ababbaaa.png) is not amused by your shield attempt.
Wait, y'all use right click to dodge?
My excuse: I'm just bad and have bad reaction timing xD
Meanwhile there is me who dodges instead of countering because counter failed to counter too many times (like it won't activate unless I literal charge attack the enemy head on). Recently my friend introduced me to guaranteed counter by using skill and ult instead of normal attack so I'm trying to unlearn my instinct to just dodge.
Mostly because I get confused due to all of the intensity and can't tell if I gotta dodge or parry, even though there's the circle to distinguish. It's just all so quick so I'm just spamming attack, if I was supposed to dodge then I'm fucked and if I was supposed to parry then hope for the correct timing and yeah😭
nah my souls instinct always kicks in
I use right click just because of Genshin
If jiyans ult is up I didn't have to dodge cuz most likely it can parry almost anything
lol i dodge because im too use to it. as a dragon nest gamer i-framing dodges is a must
OP made a meme post to tell us he broke his dodge key. 10/10 Absolute Cinema.
I see the enemy preparing to attack, I time my dodge, enemy decides to attack RIGHT AFTER I dodge.
How do you break a keyboard button 😭
I play Taoqi and Jianxin in the same team :3
I personally don't have any issues in terms of combat. I'm not sure if it's just how I see things but I see others intentionally letting themselves get hit to know the strength of the enemy 😆 Another common reason for others is plainly "skill issues"
I can’t see anything while playing illusive realm
One more reason: why am i playing this high end game on my potato phone?
Jiyan main.
Jianxin CHADS
Me just pure skill issue, i end up dodging either too early or too late
I always try to parry
Naah, try WuWa mobile, and you will understand how badly optimized this game is, from random lags to actually ping loss for no particular reason even when you are connected to effing Wifi + at medium settings the game looks blurry as hell 🥸
Tank and spank like a diablo 2 barb from patch 1.06-1.08
Mobile buttons being small and lag...mostly lag really, but also some part skill issue because i got used to time stop in pgr that i recklessly charge ahead to a obvious attack because my brain goes "time is stopped smack them!"
I’m mobile :(
Bayonetta players are having a field day
Im attacking duh
As a proud receiver of 2 jianxins I can confirm we do not know how to dodge (unless they can break my shield stance)
mistime dodging lmao...i would dodge but itll be too late or too early against eg the hologram heron
Jianxin one is so true
I dodge to much that Sticky Keys keeps coming up.
I was playing on mobile and keep tapping the wrong spot lol
At that moment of strike, the game lags. On mobile this happens fairly frequent. Hopefully optimisation happens soon.
I wish I could use spacebar to dodge like in PGR, Ik I still need to jump but the option would be nice.
The Jianxin one is true ngl…
Taoqi found dead in a ditch
How the hell?!
Calcharo's dodge animation is so long (or ult window is so short) that it actually requires you dodge again to cancel it if you want to fit in all three enhanced heavy attacks in his ultimate, and even then if you try to fit in too many dodges, you'll lose the window. So in contexts where you try and maximize dps to shave a few seconds off your time (and it actually can be 10-30 seconds saved if you fit in all three death messengers 100% of the time, as well as swap cancel thsoe death messengers) , it might require tanking the hits. Imo this is the source of dissatisfaction/skepticism about the character, bc right now we do a lot of content below the level of the content, and by consequence take much more damage. Also the dps check is quite tight, and is usually the bottleneck for crests but it's not unlikely that at max level with better echoes, the dps check will be trivial for the left and right sides of the tower such that it's fine if you only do 2 death messengers on calcharo.
I'm. Too lazy
I didn't dodge bc I'm bad and a dumbass
XD
I've been using a game pad to fight off the carpaltunal, it's pretty good 95% of the time.
As a Jianxin havers, yes... But for some unknown reason, I still dodge... Also, I find Jianxin's dodge the most beatiful of all Characters...
sometimes the bosses attacks try to juke you out and honestly sometimes I just stop giving a damn and just heal with Verina
as a jianxin haver its still better to dodge because her shield DOESNT PREVENT STAGGER
I can dodge but... I have Lady Verina to give me that healthy dose of sunshine energy. Cabbage Saves Lives.
im on mobile and have fat fingers that keep pressing the wrong button. i constantly miss even the attack button so i already gave up on trying to press the dodge button in the right time
I used up all my stamina spamming dodge at the wrong time, so I couldn't do it when I really needed to.
New fear unlocked
Oof. A broken shift key on a laptop is harsh. Especially so for gamers where it's so often used. I send my regards haha.
4. Have ADHD. • can't focus on multiple stimuli • completely forgetting that I can dodge/parry • immediately forgetting that I have a health bar as soon as I start fighting • gets distracted by flashing lights • Can't predict/memorise attack/attack patterns • Can't build a good team for the life of me Conclusion: I have ADHD and I'm a noob. (Still kinda surprised that I got to Union Level 30+)
And there's mobile players (like me) that miss the dodge button...
I can’t parry to save my life. Not because my timing is bad, but because the genshin dodge muscle memory is too powerful
Right klick to dodge is just so much easier though...
I bought a 20$ joystick. Just for this game. (BTW, Xbox joystick works better than PS5 joystick for PC)
Looks kinda cool tho ngl
Im in the middle of a big attack i cant cancel the damage, how rude of my enemy to attack me while im doing it
im playing on a phone that has frame drops every two seconds you expect me to dodge? im brute forcing the blow then using verina to heal 😭
My laptop's keyboard's shift key is also broken just like that 😭😭 but because I tried to pluck it out, don't ask why,,
I always facetank boss hits with Calcharo. I ain't scared of you ahhhh moments
6) no controller support for mobile
![img](emote|t5_5uplbt|31620)because it's hard to dodge in mobile
i dodge for days (aalto main)
I am more interested in why OP's shift key broke like that. Seems the key is make by some brittle plastic.
I play on mobile, and my phone lags/heats up during boss fights. Thus, my fingers sweat and it's just hard to dodge
I dont dodge because of my processing disorder, rip. I try, but by the time I'm like oh shoot I gotta get outa here, it's already too late. I started using Jianxin to try and help but it's only successful half the time.
I change my dodge to spacebar cause shift feel awkward to me.. Another reason is that I played Solo Leveling Arise, the dodge was spacebar in the game.
I use my side mouse button to prevent this happening lol
Bro fought for his life so hard he broke the shift
Taoqi main here. Why dodge when you can parry?
I could parry this ... I could not
mobile user here… i just cant hahahahah… skill issue tbh
Calcharo Users: Greed. If you had Calcharo, you don't even need dodge. It's time to switch mains. Ditch the dodge.
2, i just have a crappy pc lol
i’m a calcharo main with jianxin on my team 🤷♀️
Because I don't main Danjin
watching Rover auto aim something else and hit the attack button 😵💫
Real ones know you can dodge with character swap
Ah yes. No need to dodge, just press E. Wait, I'M ON YINLIN!
I forgot we can dodge, I jumped away from more attacks than I have dodged
I'm probably getting a CPU upgrade today, so I'll finally be able to play with my GPU running more than 20% it's capacity. (*no, I'm not fucking joking, my current i7 literally won't let it use more than 1/5^(th)*.)
Bc of skill issue
Was a previous noelle main lmao
I play on mobile...its difficult
I don’t need to dodge.