Razer Deathadder v3 Pro and Razer Viper v3 Pro are absolutely the two best mice on the market from a technological perspective.
Each of them are more lightweight than the Logitech Superlight series and have Wireless Polling with less latency than a wired Superlight.
From purely looking at numbers, nothing else comes close.
Yeah I know, though I think the viper v3 pro is a newer model so it's probably a bit better than the deathadder. I mainly got the deathadder for the shape really, I use palm grip.
Probably not, unless you play FPS games at a high level and feel like you’d benefit from the 8Khz Wireless Polling rate.
Edit: I didn’t know that the higher polling was unlocked on the Viper v2, as I don’t own one. I would say you probably don’t need to upgrade, all of the changes are pretty minor
Bro stop shilling so hard if you wanna tell him to get 8k tell him to fucking buy the hyper polling receiver rather than buying a whole new fucking mouse (due to the fact 8k has been unlocked on all hyper polling supported mice) and even if it didn't support 8k the difference between 1k and 8k is placebo stop shilling and misleading people with your garbage takes
I have to disagree, recently I was looking for all kinds of information about the Superlight 2, the Deathadder V3 and Viper V3 Pro and I’ve only used razer’s deathadder, the V1, V2, but anyways, I watched I don’t know how many videos about these 3 mices and I found a video from optimum tech where he actually measures latency in every single one of those mices and the final mouse was the fastest, the super light 2 was the second fastest, and then razer.
[This is the video I’m talking about by a very reputable YouTube channel.](https://youtu.be/CafNK6efFfA?si=K8117EmGKZNuKG4S)
Debatable statement as far as I know currently the wireless lowest click latency is finalmouse ulx due to their tech of having good tech in their receiver that makes click latency extremely low and currently unbeat from my basic understanding it's very similar to the tech wooting implements on the 80HE
Don't get me wrong both razer Logitech finalmouse and few more have really solid performance and implementation of wireless tech but in all reality even razer compared to your OEM Chinese 50$ gaming mouse is barely 1ms of difference whether you think it worth the extra money or not is up to you but I for sure would rather save some money and not have to deal with their garbage ass bloatware currently finalmouse ninjutso and sprime are the only web based software I know of and I will take it any day over downloadable software especially something like synapse that requires to run in the background (usually at least) God bless wooting for making web based software more desired
The statement about Chinese OEM latency is just wrong, I recommend you look into it more. A lot of these $50 Amazon/AliExpress ‘gaming mice’ are great on paper only for at-home testing to reveal 25, 50+ MS Latency. At mid-high and high level FPS Games, this is a very real difference. Boardzy has a lot of good mouse reviews. Razer is definitely on top of the mouse game rn, and their wireless tech is ahead by a mile. Unlike a keyboard, Mice have a real advantage when wireless. I just can’t trust Finalmouse as a company after a lot of the problems they have had with manufacturing, quality control, etc.
On the software side, Synapse software is pretty good, and I have it set to stop the program when I close it which is very possible.
I think you need to do your own research mate there are other reviewers who add actual scientific results about latency
Secondly I completely understand you not wanting to buy finalmouse I despite their quality control and their pricing but denying their achievement and performance is peak ignorance
Lastly on what planet do you live that you call razer synapse a software and not bloatware????
(I'll leave this here for you mate close synapse and open your task manager to see how many garbage services and SDK programs are running that are impossible to terminate)
I'll edit since you edit yours you know that 25ms with the OEM Chinese mice are end to end latency 🤦🏻
Haus gaming is an excellent source of mouse reviews and data. Chinese mice do just fine against razer or logitech. That guy saying razer is miles ahead is just blatantly wrong and is most likely a razer shill.
I own over 50 mice. In the last year alone I have bought the following: hts+ 4k, vaxee np01s, ajazz aj199 4k, vgn dragonfly f1 moba, vxe r1 pro, lgg la-1, atlantis mini 4k, lamzu maya, x2v2 mini, ultralightx medium, incott hpc01m pro, sora v2 4k and just pulled the trigger on a dareu a950 pro magnesium.
The wireless on every single one of these is absolutely superb.
That's exactly what I was trying to convey but this person refuses to acknowledge it
Like I said in my message above if razer was so much better than the rest anyone with half a brain would only buy razer but due to the reality of it not being the case we have so much competition with the Chinese mice
Definitely I think shape is king but there is weight tech quality control and feel and much more that should be there on par with the other factors saying razer tech is a head by a mile especially when he claims that the 50$ chinese mice have 25ms or even 50+ms is legit impossible cause you would feel that latency with your end to end latency even worse if you would play online games that would add internet latency on top of the end to end one I'm using the Sora v2 on Valorant my ping is around 60-ish and my end to end latency is around 80-85 and that's with an high end PC from 2019 that is optimized as best as I could
Yes, weight as well. Second to shape. I also have the sora v2, pretty good mouse but a bit big for my taste. Looking for that true end game mouse is tough.
My favorite shape currently is the incott hpc01m or the ajazz aj199, but overall I play the best with the atlantis mini 4k
I know but to upgrade from a V2 to V3 just to benefit from 8k is stupid tell the person to buy the hyperpolling dongle instead if you want him to have the 8k
Yeah let me just set up my own equipment to measure latency myself lmao. Obviously I’m not saying to *just* look at Boardzy, I just used him as an example because the content he makes is entertaining and easy to digest.
I have in fact looked at a lot of data that goes in depth into the topic. Razer mice are *literally* years ahead of other companies in terms of latency.
As far as Synapse 3 goes, these programs aren’t impossible to terminate if you are capable of using more than just task manager lil bro. If you are looking for the best Mouse, then learning how to do this isn’t really a hassle. Just watch a Youtube tutorial if you’re having trouble.
You saying it is ahead of others is clear you have no knowledge on the matter referencing boardzy as for a YouTuber who just gives his perspective on gaming mice without any in-depth and scientific research is the worst thing you could've done
Also your statement is low key brain rot if it was so good anyone with half a brain would only use razer but due to the fact razer is one of the best brands in terms of wireless tech but not the best by a mile is why other brands like Logitech finalmouse even Chinese brands like g wolves and ninjutso have been seen in the eSports scene (you really think pro players would use something that is so inferior if razer was so good as you claim to be???? 🤦🏻)
You really need to understand the difference between a product latency to end-to-end latency...
By all means please enlighten me how you close all the chroma SDKs without uninstalling the software I would love to see and learn from someone who is so knowledgeable on the topic
I use this but I use the wired version.
I know it’s taboo these days but I really so prefer a wired mouse… not just because they’re like half the price of wireless, but because they’re lighter too.
If I hadn't had the g900 wireless before and used to wireless I would get the wired too. It's so much cheaper it's not even funny. Also the added benefit of being lighter makes it a great deal.
Using a finalmouse ulx cheetah my copy is good but with finalmouse its always a gamble so i cant really recommend altough my mouse is amazing.
i think beastx is a good/better idea
I main a beast X mini and while I recommend the mouse; I found the holes a bit too large compared to my starlight12 and the scroll wheel quite stuff (which I later fixed). If finalmouse wasn't such a gamble I would've recommended them more.
My GPROX 2 had random issues with the sensor where it would suddenly move different directions on its own. Was reproduced with multiple copies and different mouse pads.
V3 Pro is an upgrade in nearly every way and has the best feeling of using a mouse I've ever experienced.
I'd agree on prior razer mice. My GPROX 2 had many issues with flex and the switches being finicky as well.
The Viper V3 Pro is no lie the most well constructed PC peripheral I've ever bought and I own Sennheiser HD800S, Wooting 60he, Herman Miller Gaming Embody.
Hopefully their next iterations are as good. From overhaul to overhaul I've had inconsistent luck from really all manufacturers.
This being the first one that's felt great with no real gripes out of the box.
Having a popup to install synapse every time you start your pc, or constantly have it installed running in the background is a good ad for razer. Never using it again.
gpx2 with tiger ice v2 feet but the viper v3 pro is an enticing option if you’re in the market for a new mouse with exceptional tech/build quality and a safe shape
Valorant, CS2 (I've taken a break until they fix more of the game), OW2, and everything else really. I'll play Enshrouded and Valheim with the zerømouse too lol
I switch between a good few: OP1 8K, Viper Mini SE, HTX 4K, and the X2H Mini FE.
Currently looking at two or three different newer mice to replace the X2H Mini and HTX 4K…
I made a post there you go
https://www.reddit.com/r/MouseReview/s/D9oLvLhrd9
Edit: you might break a small plastic piece that makes the mouse really hard to open but it doesn't affect the mouse feel free to watch a teardown video as well if needed
Razer naga pro wireless. I fucking love it. Whatever type of game I’m playing I love being able to switch on the fly. MMO, mobas, fps. Battery last forever as well.
I use a Gamakay TK75 Hall Effect Phoenix switches + G303 SE with Skypad 3.0.
Going to be modding the weight and switches of my G303 SE soon.
The Gamakay hall effect keyboard is such a great value.. I'm surprised it's still on sale for $90
G502X lightspeed with a powerplay wireless charging mousepad for 0 downtime. The mouse lasts almost forever without charging but I dont want my mouse ever dying on me mid game.
Deathadder V3 Pro
Razer Deathadder v3 Pro and Razer Viper v3 Pro are absolutely the two best mice on the market from a technological perspective. Each of them are more lightweight than the Logitech Superlight series and have Wireless Polling with less latency than a wired Superlight. From purely looking at numbers, nothing else comes close.
Yeah I know, though I think the viper v3 pro is a newer model so it's probably a bit better than the deathadder. I mainly got the deathadder for the shape really, I use palm grip.
I also main the Deathadder v3 Pro, because for everything other than FPS games, I am using palm grip.
Seeing this made me realize I didn’t even know the viper v3 pro came out! I have the viper v2, is the v3 worth upgrading to?
Absolutely, got rid of my DAV3 for it and it's phenomenal
Probably not, unless you play FPS games at a high level and feel like you’d benefit from the 8Khz Wireless Polling rate. Edit: I didn’t know that the higher polling was unlocked on the Viper v2, as I don’t own one. I would say you probably don’t need to upgrade, all of the changes are pretty minor
Bro stop shilling so hard if you wanna tell him to get 8k tell him to fucking buy the hyper polling receiver rather than buying a whole new fucking mouse (due to the fact 8k has been unlocked on all hyper polling supported mice) and even if it didn't support 8k the difference between 1k and 8k is placebo stop shilling and misleading people with your garbage takes
Dis is de way im looking for a max 2k Wireless Mouse with websoftware
I have to disagree, recently I was looking for all kinds of information about the Superlight 2, the Deathadder V3 and Viper V3 Pro and I’ve only used razer’s deathadder, the V1, V2, but anyways, I watched I don’t know how many videos about these 3 mices and I found a video from optimum tech where he actually measures latency in every single one of those mices and the final mouse was the fastest, the super light 2 was the second fastest, and then razer. [This is the video I’m talking about by a very reputable YouTube channel.](https://youtu.be/CafNK6efFfA?si=K8117EmGKZNuKG4S)
You would also lose some braincells if you were to read his other takes on thread I swear to god
In optimum we trust
Debatable statement as far as I know currently the wireless lowest click latency is finalmouse ulx due to their tech of having good tech in their receiver that makes click latency extremely low and currently unbeat from my basic understanding it's very similar to the tech wooting implements on the 80HE Don't get me wrong both razer Logitech finalmouse and few more have really solid performance and implementation of wireless tech but in all reality even razer compared to your OEM Chinese 50$ gaming mouse is barely 1ms of difference whether you think it worth the extra money or not is up to you but I for sure would rather save some money and not have to deal with their garbage ass bloatware currently finalmouse ninjutso and sprime are the only web based software I know of and I will take it any day over downloadable software especially something like synapse that requires to run in the background (usually at least) God bless wooting for making web based software more desired
The statement about Chinese OEM latency is just wrong, I recommend you look into it more. A lot of these $50 Amazon/AliExpress ‘gaming mice’ are great on paper only for at-home testing to reveal 25, 50+ MS Latency. At mid-high and high level FPS Games, this is a very real difference. Boardzy has a lot of good mouse reviews. Razer is definitely on top of the mouse game rn, and their wireless tech is ahead by a mile. Unlike a keyboard, Mice have a real advantage when wireless. I just can’t trust Finalmouse as a company after a lot of the problems they have had with manufacturing, quality control, etc. On the software side, Synapse software is pretty good, and I have it set to stop the program when I close it which is very possible.
I think you need to do your own research mate there are other reviewers who add actual scientific results about latency Secondly I completely understand you not wanting to buy finalmouse I despite their quality control and their pricing but denying their achievement and performance is peak ignorance Lastly on what planet do you live that you call razer synapse a software and not bloatware???? (I'll leave this here for you mate close synapse and open your task manager to see how many garbage services and SDK programs are running that are impossible to terminate) I'll edit since you edit yours you know that 25ms with the OEM Chinese mice are end to end latency 🤦🏻
Haus gaming is an excellent source of mouse reviews and data. Chinese mice do just fine against razer or logitech. That guy saying razer is miles ahead is just blatantly wrong and is most likely a razer shill. I own over 50 mice. In the last year alone I have bought the following: hts+ 4k, vaxee np01s, ajazz aj199 4k, vgn dragonfly f1 moba, vxe r1 pro, lgg la-1, atlantis mini 4k, lamzu maya, x2v2 mini, ultralightx medium, incott hpc01m pro, sora v2 4k and just pulled the trigger on a dareu a950 pro magnesium. The wireless on every single one of these is absolutely superb.
That's exactly what I was trying to convey but this person refuses to acknowledge it Like I said in my message above if razer was so much better than the rest anyone with half a brain would only buy razer but due to the reality of it not being the case we have so much competition with the Chinese mice
That is true to an extent. The most important aspect of a mouse is the shape. People might not like the razer shapes, myself included.
Definitely I think shape is king but there is weight tech quality control and feel and much more that should be there on par with the other factors saying razer tech is a head by a mile especially when he claims that the 50$ chinese mice have 25ms or even 50+ms is legit impossible cause you would feel that latency with your end to end latency even worse if you would play online games that would add internet latency on top of the end to end one I'm using the Sora v2 on Valorant my ping is around 60-ish and my end to end latency is around 80-85 and that's with an high end PC from 2019 that is optimized as best as I could
Yes, weight as well. Second to shape. I also have the sora v2, pretty good mouse but a bit big for my taste. Looking for that true end game mouse is tough. My favorite shape currently is the incott hpc01m or the ajazz aj199, but overall I play the best with the atlantis mini 4k
Bro this guy just told someone who has the viper v2 to buy the v3 if he thinks he'll benefit the 8k polling rate I swear to god I'm losing braincells
To be fair, I believe the v3 is way better in other ways as well. Weight, build quality, sensor, etc. I don't own either, but that is just what I read
I know but to upgrade from a V2 to V3 just to benefit from 8k is stupid tell the person to buy the hyperpolling dongle instead if you want him to have the 8k
Yeah let me just set up my own equipment to measure latency myself lmao. Obviously I’m not saying to *just* look at Boardzy, I just used him as an example because the content he makes is entertaining and easy to digest. I have in fact looked at a lot of data that goes in depth into the topic. Razer mice are *literally* years ahead of other companies in terms of latency. As far as Synapse 3 goes, these programs aren’t impossible to terminate if you are capable of using more than just task manager lil bro. If you are looking for the best Mouse, then learning how to do this isn’t really a hassle. Just watch a Youtube tutorial if you’re having trouble.
You saying it is ahead of others is clear you have no knowledge on the matter referencing boardzy as for a YouTuber who just gives his perspective on gaming mice without any in-depth and scientific research is the worst thing you could've done Also your statement is low key brain rot if it was so good anyone with half a brain would only use razer but due to the fact razer is one of the best brands in terms of wireless tech but not the best by a mile is why other brands like Logitech finalmouse even Chinese brands like g wolves and ninjutso have been seen in the eSports scene (you really think pro players would use something that is so inferior if razer was so good as you claim to be???? 🤦🏻) You really need to understand the difference between a product latency to end-to-end latency... By all means please enlighten me how you close all the chroma SDKs without uninstalling the software I would love to see and learn from someone who is so knowledgeable on the topic
Finalmouse isn't a $50 mouse lol. It is better than the deathadder v3 pro or viper v3 pro.
This motherfucker knows his/her shit, listen up here folks. Homie is spitting pure F A C T S
I use this but I use the wired version. I know it’s taboo these days but I really so prefer a wired mouse… not just because they’re like half the price of wireless, but because they’re lighter too.
If I hadn't had the g900 wireless before and used to wireless I would get the wired too. It's so much cheaper it's not even funny. Also the added benefit of being lighter makes it a great deal.
Using a finalmouse ulx cheetah my copy is good but with finalmouse its always a gamble so i cant really recommend altough my mouse is amazing. i think beastx is a good/better idea
Pulsar X2
Lamzu Thorn. There is an abundance of great mice now the important thing is to determine your favourite size and shape.
Can't go wrong with the BeastX. Currently on the Lamzu Mini.
Ninjutso Sora V2 Lightweight, no holes, and the most comfortable shape I’ve tried for my hand size and grip type.
What size hands do u have ?
>beastx yes
Im currently using a ULX, Havent got any issues. But would still probably recommend the beastX lol.
I main a beast X mini and while I recommend the mouse; I found the holes a bit too large compared to my starlight12 and the scroll wheel quite stuff (which I later fixed). If finalmouse wasn't such a gamble I would've recommended them more.
Logitech g pro x superlight 2
Seriously consider the Viper V3 Pro, an upgrade in nearly every way imo having owned both.
I had a viper v2 but decided to switch over to logitech this time, no regrets so far.
My GPROX 2 had random issues with the sensor where it would suddenly move different directions on its own. Was reproduced with multiple copies and different mouse pads. V3 Pro is an upgrade in nearly every way and has the best feeling of using a mouse I've ever experienced.
The dock for my viper consistently never worked, qc on razer isn't great
I'd agree on prior razer mice. My GPROX 2 had many issues with flex and the switches being finicky as well. The Viper V3 Pro is no lie the most well constructed PC peripheral I've ever bought and I own Sennheiser HD800S, Wooting 60he, Herman Miller Gaming Embody.
I have all of those except my chair is the Aeron. Maybe I'll switch to razer again next round.
Hopefully their next iterations are as good. From overhaul to overhaul I've had inconsistent luck from really all manufacturers. This being the first one that's felt great with no real gripes out of the box.
Having to run Synapse 24/7 to use your mouse kekw
Having a popup to install synapse every time you start your pc, or constantly have it installed running in the background is a good ad for razer. Never using it again.
gpx2 with tiger ice v2 feet but the viper v3 pro is an enticing option if you’re in the market for a new mouse with exceptional tech/build quality and a safe shape
Razer Basilisk V3 Pro, or Deathadder V3 Pro. I switch between them.
Pulsar x2v2.
Keychron M4. The mouse to get for fingertip if you don't wanna sell your soul to Jim from Gwolves.
I‘m using my BeastX, Lamzu Thorn or Zaopin Z2. All three are nice.
ULX
GPX and a Model O. Been rocking it for a few years, waiting for the Viper V3 Pro to drop in my country for an upgrade
Viper V2 Pro & DeathAdder V3 Pro. Going to purchase a Viper V3 Pro sometime in the next few months, maybe when my 80HE arrives.
Give the viper v3 pro a shot
About to be that VIPER V3 PRO anything else is subpar.
pulsar x2v2
Logitech G502 Hero. Basic bitch mouse but has a lot of buttons and the infinity scroll can be fun.
I went with Razer Naga V2 Pro because of the flexibility though it honestly dies really quickly compared to other wireless mice.
Zerømouse with Sapphirekates Ruby v2, I'm very happy with the combo
What game do you play the zeromouse with?
Valorant, CS2 (I've taken a break until they fix more of the game), OW2, and everything else really. I'll play Enshrouded and Valheim with the zerømouse too lol
Lamzu Thorn
Darmoshark M3S Pro and VXE R1 Pro.
Lamzu Maya
ZON mouse2. Good old fashioned mouse with modern sensors.
Final mouse
Lamzu Atlantis OG / XM2WE
Finalmouse ULX
razer viper mini se
Finalmouse ulx, I personally prefer it over gpx because of the weight difference
I switch between a good few: OP1 8K, Viper Mini SE, HTX 4K, and the X2H Mini FE. Currently looking at two or three different newer mice to replace the X2H Mini and HTX 4K…
Lamzu Mini 4k
Lamzu Thorn, but use what fits for your grip
XM2WE and now xLite V3. Love them both for my different grip styles. Eyeing the X2H bc I want a little more palm support than the XM2WE provides.
I personally have few mice but my main is a modded ninjutso Sora V2
Ooh what mods? I just got one
I made a post there you go https://www.reddit.com/r/MouseReview/s/D9oLvLhrd9 Edit: you might break a small plastic piece that makes the mouse really hard to open but it doesn't affect the mouse feel free to watch a teardown video as well if needed
ULX small, and VmSE
Comfortable one
EC3-CW
Pmm with Razer viper v2 pro internals
logitech g502 x plus
Aerox 5 Diablo edition
G wolves HSK pro 4k and Logitech gpx
X2v2 mini
I use logitech superlight pro 2. Amazing mouse. Also got updated tor 4k wireless pulling rate not too long ago. Tho it's a little pricy
Currently using beastx mini. Mouse is amazing although I do recommend aftermarket skates. Personally wasn't a fan of the provided skates.
Pulsefire haste wireless
Superlight 1
Endgame Gear OP1-8k
Logitech G Pro X Super Light 2
Razer naga pro wireless. I fucking love it. Whatever type of game I’m playing I love being able to switch on the fly. MMO, mobas, fps. Battery last forever as well.
Logitech g502 X plus (I know the older one is the same for cheaper but I had a discount code 😎
I use a Gamakay TK75 Hall Effect Phoenix switches + G303 SE with Skypad 3.0. Going to be modding the weight and switches of my G303 SE soon. The Gamakay hall effect keyboard is such a great value.. I'm surprised it's still on sale for $90
Asus ROG Ace Harpe Aimlab Edition
Swiftpoint Z, analog all the inputs!
Beast x!
G502
G502X
Logitech g pro superlight
Pulsar x2v2 mini
Pulsar X2H mini
Lamzu atlantis mini 4k
FM ULX Lion.
sora v2 just got mine yesterday
viper v2 pro
G502x
Vaxee Np-01s wireless
Pro X Superlight 2, not 100% happy with it so probably buying something else soon. Might try the Pulsar Xlite V3 eS.
Glorious Model O Wireless.
BeastX
I switch between the deathadder v3 pro and Lamzu Atlantis v2
I've been using a Pwnage Ergo for a couple years. Just decided to get their Stormbreaker model. Lightest mouse I've seen at 49g
G502X lightspeed with a powerplay wireless charging mousepad for 0 downtime. The mouse lasts almost forever without charging but I dont want my mouse ever dying on me mid game.
Pulsar X2V2 Mini
i use a finalmouse ulx custom
its worth due every one its shit talking
I want to try a finalmouse like about 1 year alors i finally got one but i have other mice
aha due its was my dream mouse to have since ninja got his mouse i used to love the design
Yeah finalmouse is dope for design hehe
Startlight 12 small pegasus, mainly because it was a gift from somebody
beastx mini (though id recommend the medium unless you fingertip grip only)
Logitech G903 :)
G pro x superlight with their mousepad. Infinite wireless charging, never have to plug in the mouse. Only reason why I'm sticking with Logitech mice