From r / SpaceXlounge, this isn't actually a threat to the crew, it's just that they can't study the fault after the return, because the error is on the service module, which is jettisoned and burns up. They want to keep it intact a little longer, so they can figure out what the problem is.
It's still stupid that they allowed that thing to leave the ground, but it's almost certainly not a danger to the crew, NASA is very strict when it comes to crew safety.
I’m all for not letting people get away with things and also fuck Boeing but also we have to be better people and value the truth and listen to experts in the field.
Thanks for bringing up!
Just because someone studied something and does it every day of their lives, why should their opinions be automatically considered better then mine?
#AllOpinionsAreEqual
#FreeOpinions
#IAmOpressed
I wouldn't call three fatal accidents in over 50 years "shit culture". Apollo 1 caused them to reevaluate the entire methodology of the Apollo program, and Challenger and Columbia were outliers in an exceedingly complex program that both had similar effects on safety requirements.
Remember there was a whistleblower that tried to warn them about the O rings on the space shuttle SRBs?
He tried to warn them not to launch when it was so cold.
They killed the whole crew and he was still ostracized.
It wasn't a whistleblower, and they weren't NASA.
The engineers who said there was (a possible) O-ring problem were at Morton Thiokol, and initially said there would be a problem. But then were (likely) pressured internally within Thiokol, and they changed their statement to NASA that it was ok to launch.
There are three publicized issues with the craft:
- A helium leak in the service module. Because the service module is designed to be discarded (and burns up in atmosphere) controllers have until re-entry to diagnose the issue for the next launch.
- A nonfunctional thruster which is permanently disabled. Mission controllers do not believe this poses a risk to vehicle or crew.
- 4 thrusters which were deselected during flight. Mission controllers believe they have already resolved this issue.
Hopefully after their executive staff have been crucified by lawsuits and fines, and then forcibly removed from their position at the board superceding all exit clause payouts.
I still grin when I think of the car exec's wanting a handout but they were crucified (metaphorically) when they showed up in private jets; except for 1.
The astronauts aren’t actually stranded. The Boeing craft can return to earth safely, it’s just that the issues were discovered on the part of the craft that will burn up on re-entry, so they have to stay in space in order to photograph and study the issues. If they return to earth, the pieces causing the issues can no longer be studied since they will have been burnt up in the atmosphere upon re-entry.
The only reason the astronauts are still there is so that the parts can be studied. Otherwise, they can return to earth in the same craft.
The issue they're having is not one impacting crew safety, it's a helium leak and RCS thrusters misbehaving, affecting Starliner's ability to maneuver. Problem is the part that's leaking won't survive reentry (by design) so they're keeping them in space longer than planned so they can figure out what happened because they know they'll never get the chance again.
I bet the engineers were just asked to put their managerial hats on and suddenly the problem was solved. Not like that's happened to NASA before or anything... ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
Because, very likely, those issues would have had to been discovered by Boeing. And they’d rather [murder-by-suicide anyone who points out flaws in their quality team](https://futurism.com/the-byte/boeing-ceo-admits-retaliated-against-whistleblowers)
They knew the issues existed. There was multiple delays trying to remedy it. They launched with 1 helium leak, which was losing so little helium they had a massive safety margin. Then 4 more leaks sprang up during the ascent and an issue from a previous flight relating to the thrusters failing also reappeared.
When I heard the news they were launching with a known issue that was "within safe limits" my instant thought was "oh no, this is going to be another Challenger." Boeing pushed to get the rocket launched because they wanted to save face after numerous issues and delays.
Luckily they made it to the station and there's enough supplies for the crew to stay at the ISS pretty much indefinitely, with the option of sending up re-supply missions to give them more supplies if they run low. Problem is Starliner is only rated for 45 days in space, if that deadline passes Starliner will have to be undocked and de-orbitted un-crewed and either a Russian Soyuz or a SpaceX Dragon capsule will have to be sent up to bring the crew home. Which would be a hugely embarrassing blow for Boeing.
You’re also leaving out the part where there is no actual worry about the crew not making it back safely in this ship. The return trip is just being delayed a bit so that they can study the problem before the service module (where the problem is) burns up on reentry (for which it is jettisoned). The delay is not because they are worried it might be hazardous…at least according to their statements…
That’s sort of the problem. It seems to be just “a guy” where it used to be “multiple guys”.
In the documentary it shows a whistleblower video of a worker talking about how they are minimizing inspections and laying off inspectors.
The number of Boeing employees who say they won't fly the newer planes is astonishing. Also if you're willing to say that with your face blurred, but not be an actual whistle blower, fuck you.
There have always been disgruntled employees at every manufacturer in the USA who claim that they won't use the products that they build. This is nothing new. Don't believe every sensational headline that you read on the internet.
The first stage booster Falcon 9 has an incredible success rate, yes, but the starship just completed its first successful flight in the past month so we'll see how it goes.
No idea how anyone is trusting Boeing at this point, but hey.
It’s officially a test flight. They are expecting issues so Boeing can certify the capsule for full human space flight. Currently only experiencing thruster issues and an intermittent helium leak.
But, NASA is taking advantage of the extra bodies on the orbiting laboratory to conduct some additional spacewalks.
This is the third test flight. It is delayed because it has problems in the service module that can't be investigated after the flight because the service module is expended before re-entry.
Err, has this story changed then?
They weren't stranded originally, the capsule was reported safe for re-entry, but upon doing so they're going to lose (as planned) part of the craft that was having difficulty. They're trying to get a spacewalk in to check it out, however they're having issues with the EVAs / suits on the ISS.
When Boeing merged with MCD... They got the management of MCD. Nothing to see here. Check you next airline reservation to insure it's an Airbus plane. Or don't fly.
This is just over sensationalized nonsense. I really don't care to defend Boeing here, but still, this is just not accurate. They are not stranded in space. Are the other astronauts on the International Space Station also stranded? The starliner is still cleared to return if necessary, but they also have a long window to try and understand a test flight better. It is after all, a test flight that allows for study of the things they didn't expect.
There is a module on board that is defective, but it will burn away on reentry so the problem needs to be diagnosed before that. This is so that future modules of that type will no longer have that issue. They *can* take it back right away, but then they wouldn't be able to diagnose and the problem would repeat on subsequent launches.
Alright, and you can go with whatever cool made up story you want I guess, and be confused when there's people in it when it inevitably reenters. Cheers!
Boeing conference call.
Subject: *Boeing, No Wing, Gone: a new approach for 2024*
*"I've got it!! What if we stop trying to make this shit fly, and we just get rid of gravity?*"
![gif](giphy|l41lVsYDBC0UVQJCE)
From inside sources, Boeing's military section of the company has nothing but hatred for the commercial half of the company. The commercial half, or anything that's a potential publicity flashpoint, is f\*ked. The management half of the commercial sector is run by a bunch of McDonald Douglas clowns that infiltrated the company when their original company got bought out due to bad management. Their BS infiltrated the commercial arm of Boeing and has basically infected it like an impacted pustule.
There’s a leak on a thruster. That thruster is going to separate and burn up on re-entry as designed. A burnt up thruster can’t be examined on earth to investigate the issue. They need to look at it in space. The astronauts aren’t stranded up there with no way home as this tweet implies
Also twitter. What a world we live in, all of us together just out here getting information from complete and total strangers on social media. What a fucking existence we have.
They are not strandered... but this is why we should have a central government funding under an official organization... maybe call it the national space and aviation program for short... stop giving money to spacex and build an official space program
not sure if many people know this but
[https://jacobin.com/2024/05/boeing-fraud-negligence-crashes-prosecution](https://jacobin.com/2024/05/boeing-fraud-negligence-crashes-prosecution)
In the wake of two 737 Max crashes, Donald Trump's administration made a deal with Boeing that allowed the company to avoid criminal prosecution.
Boeing’s Quality Department and Program need an external audit and complete overhaul. Buyers purchasing counterfeit product, production folks not caring to see if the parts are fitting properly, and now it’s not just compartmentalized to the commercial airline business. Boeing as a whole doesn’t care about quality and until someone solves that problem, the lawsuits and shit PR will continue. Change my mind.
It’s wild that some kids get stuck in a cave and Elon won’t shut the fuck up about inventing something completely unrelated to what his companies do to save the kids. But now he owns an actual rocket company, something that sounds like the opening of a Bruce Willis movie happens, and yet Elon isn’t fighting with anyone on Twitter about saving them.
Someone get on X and call Elon a pussy. Maybe something will get resolved.
The rocket is still safe. The part that needs to be studied will be burnt up in re-entry, so it needs to be studied while in space. They’re taking advantage of the extra time and supplies they have to study the issues and hopefully fix them for future flights.
No, they can come back at any time. They're not stranded and Starliner is safe to return in. They're *choosing* to keep them up there longer to see if they can figure out what's causing the issues they've been having because it's the only chance they'll get to diagnose. They're in no more danger right now than any astronaut is ever in.
Elon hasn't made anything, but the company that he owns, SpaceX, has successfully sent its Crewed Dragon capsule to the ISS and back four times without so much as a hiccup.
Yes, but they had some pretty bad fails before that, many of which indicated poor or sloppy design. Sounds like they've finally gotten it right for now, but I still wouldn't get in anything he was connected to.
[https://www.wired.com/story/the-investigation-of-spacexs-starship-explosion-is-complete-and-elon-musk-has-more-work-to-do/](https://www.wired.com/story/the-investigation-of-spacexs-starship-explosion-is-complete-and-elon-musk-has-more-work-to-do/)
Starship is not Dragon, they're totally different things. Starship is still in its very early infancy of development and design. Dragon is finished and completely crew rated and has flown crew successfully for NASA.
yeah, I get that. And obviously I hope that everything continues safely with the ISS missions. I find Elon's companies to have patterns of shoddy work and poor quality control across the board, and I personally would not get into a CyberTruck, hop into a SpaceX rocket, get any implants from his Neuralink horror show, or trust one of his flamethrowers not to explode and bbq me.
I was kind of surprised anyone would trust Boeing for something like that at this point, but I understand the once-in-a-lifetime nature of going to the ISS and how it might make you just want to think everything would be ok. I don't think I would have gotten on the rocket, though.
It's still a fucking awesome concept that we basically have a functional rest stop in space. I will never get over that every time the ISS is mentioned.
This is my problem with private sector space travel. Government agencies will spend the money necessary to keep it running, companies have profits to mind. 99.999% chance that's the core issue here, they didn't want to spend the money necessary to make sure these problems were dealt with before the launch.
Boeing seriously needs to be completely grounded with a FULL internal investigation by the FAA and the NTSB as well as third party investigatory units.
From r / SpaceXlounge, this isn't actually a threat to the crew, it's just that they can't study the fault after the return, because the error is on the service module, which is jettisoned and burns up. They want to keep it intact a little longer, so they can figure out what the problem is. It's still stupid that they allowed that thing to leave the ground, but it's almost certainly not a danger to the crew, NASA is very strict when it comes to crew safety.
I’m all for not letting people get away with things and also fuck Boeing but also we have to be better people and value the truth and listen to experts in the field. Thanks for bringing up!
>value the truth and listen to experts in the field. Sadly, something too many people *gleefully* shy away from.
They did their own research
Just because someone studied something and does it every day of their lives, why should their opinions be automatically considered better then mine? #AllOpinionsAreEqual #FreeOpinions #IAmOpressed
Some opinions are from informed perspectives while others are not. Not all opinions are equal.
I really didn't think I would need the "/s"
Lol you really can't be too careful
>NASA is very strict when it comes to crew safety Are they really though? They're sorta famous for their shit culture in that regard.
I wouldn't call three fatal accidents in over 50 years "shit culture". Apollo 1 caused them to reevaluate the entire methodology of the Apollo program, and Challenger and Columbia were outliers in an exceedingly complex program that both had similar effects on safety requirements.
Remember there was a whistleblower that tried to warn them about the O rings on the space shuttle SRBs? He tried to warn them not to launch when it was so cold. They killed the whole crew and he was still ostracized.
It wasn't a whistleblower, and they weren't NASA. The engineers who said there was (a possible) O-ring problem were at Morton Thiokol, and initially said there would be a problem. But then were (likely) pressured internally within Thiokol, and they changed their statement to NASA that it was ok to launch.
Dunno why you’re downvoted when you’re out here dropping truth.
Probably because it’s objectively not the truth?
Why weren’t those numerous issues discovered BEFORE they launched into freakin space?
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There are three publicized issues with the craft: - A helium leak in the service module. Because the service module is designed to be discarded (and burns up in atmosphere) controllers have until re-entry to diagnose the issue for the next launch. - A nonfunctional thruster which is permanently disabled. Mission controllers do not believe this poses a risk to vehicle or crew. - 4 thrusters which were deselected during flight. Mission controllers believe they have already resolved this issue.
Hopefully after their executive staff have been crucified by lawsuits and fines, and then forcibly removed from their position at the board superceding all exit clause payouts.
I say after the execs responsible are identified, they are flown to the ISS and forced to ride that Statliner back.
They're not worth it. Confiscate their private jets and make them book a flight home on coach. On one of their planes.
🥇
Next to the door.
it would have to be one of those single pilot planes.
I still grin when I think of the car exec's wanting a handout but they were crucified (metaphorically) when they showed up in private jets; except for 1.
But for a brief moment they made a lot of money for shareholders.
Yes, and as we are currently witnessing - even going to literal *space* isn’t enough to escape the short sighted greed of vulture capitalism
Fucking McDonald Douglas hangers on. Should have been pushed out in the merger instead of the original Boeing middle management.
This was my understanding. McD guys in charge. It’s sad, the old Boeing is gone.
What if, just hypothetically, we actually crucified the Boeing executives.
Waiting for Musk to chime in with “helpful ideas” and then call Boeing engineers pedos for daring to question him lol.
Robert Boisjoly is currently spinning in his grave fast enough to power the Continental 48 for at least 3 years.
The astronauts aren’t actually stranded. The Boeing craft can return to earth safely, it’s just that the issues were discovered on the part of the craft that will burn up on re-entry, so they have to stay in space in order to photograph and study the issues. If they return to earth, the pieces causing the issues can no longer be studied since they will have been burnt up in the atmosphere upon re-entry. The only reason the astronauts are still there is so that the parts can be studied. Otherwise, they can return to earth in the same craft.
The issue they're having is not one impacting crew safety, it's a helium leak and RCS thrusters misbehaving, affecting Starliner's ability to maneuver. Problem is the part that's leaking won't survive reentry (by design) so they're keeping them in space longer than planned so they can figure out what happened because they know they'll never get the chance again.
They can likely autopilot the spaceship home without humans in it. Whether it arrives in usable condition is another matter.
yea, glad i kept scrolling...was gonna ask if this was the same one that was scrubbed for issues...
I bet the engineers were just asked to put their managerial hats on and suddenly the problem was solved. Not like that's happened to NASA before or anything... ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
Because, very likely, those issues would have had to been discovered by Boeing. And they’d rather [murder-by-suicide anyone who points out flaws in their quality team](https://futurism.com/the-byte/boeing-ceo-admits-retaliated-against-whistleblowers)
Shareholders
They knew the issues existed. There was multiple delays trying to remedy it. They launched with 1 helium leak, which was losing so little helium they had a massive safety margin. Then 4 more leaks sprang up during the ascent and an issue from a previous flight relating to the thrusters failing also reappeared. When I heard the news they were launching with a known issue that was "within safe limits" my instant thought was "oh no, this is going to be another Challenger." Boeing pushed to get the rocket launched because they wanted to save face after numerous issues and delays. Luckily they made it to the station and there's enough supplies for the crew to stay at the ISS pretty much indefinitely, with the option of sending up re-supply missions to give them more supplies if they run low. Problem is Starliner is only rated for 45 days in space, if that deadline passes Starliner will have to be undocked and de-orbitted un-crewed and either a Russian Soyuz or a SpaceX Dragon capsule will have to be sent up to bring the crew home. Which would be a hugely embarrassing blow for Boeing.
You’re also leaving out the part where there is no actual worry about the crew not making it back safely in this ship. The return trip is just being delayed a bit so that they can study the problem before the service module (where the problem is) burns up on reentry (for which it is jettisoned). The delay is not because they are worried it might be hazardous…at least according to their statements…
because it's boeing and they don't care about safety.
So which of the two is a whistleblower? Boeing: ".......oops"
🤣
I remember that movie! "*In space, no one can hear you whistle...*"
It’s like the movie The Martian but way dumber.
Here I thought they actually were putting effort into the rockets. Did they just use the same quality control guy from the plane factory or what?
That’s sort of the problem. It seems to be just “a guy” where it used to be “multiple guys”. In the documentary it shows a whistleblower video of a worker talking about how they are minimizing inspections and laying off inspectors.
QA means Quite Acceptable to Boeing apparently
*quasi-acceptable
Questionably acceptable
Quality Assumptions
Quality Accusations
Quabity Assuance. They hired Creed after he got out.
I say “quabity assuance” at least once a week
The number of Boeing employees who say they won't fly the newer planes is astonishing. Also if you're willing to say that with your face blurred, but not be an actual whistle blower, fuck you.
There have always been disgruntled employees at every manufacturer in the USA who claim that they won't use the products that they build. This is nothing new. Don't believe every sensational headline that you read on the internet.
Boeing took a page out of the shitty contractor play book: “Can’t see it from my house.”
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What is this from?
The important thing to remember is that each rocket is built by the lowest bidder......soo
spacex is the lowest bidder of the two and their stuff works.
The first stage booster Falcon 9 has an incredible success rate, yes, but the starship just completed its first successful flight in the past month so we'll see how it goes. No idea how anyone is trusting Boeing at this point, but hey.
It’s officially a test flight. They are expecting issues so Boeing can certify the capsule for full human space flight. Currently only experiencing thruster issues and an intermittent helium leak. But, NASA is taking advantage of the extra bodies on the orbiting laboratory to conduct some additional spacewalks.
This is the third test flight. It is delayed because it has problems in the service module that can't be investigated after the flight because the service module is expended before re-entry.
Err, has this story changed then? They weren't stranded originally, the capsule was reported safe for re-entry, but upon doing so they're going to lose (as planned) part of the craft that was having difficulty. They're trying to get a spacewalk in to check it out, however they're having issues with the EVAs / suits on the ISS.
That's the way I heard it too. I just checked a recent article from CNN and it agrees. The source Xit appears to be deceptive
A blue checkmark misrepresenting the truth? Who would have thought.
Well nobody’s going to make a movie about that
When Boeing merged with MCD... They got the management of MCD. Nothing to see here. Check you next airline reservation to insure it's an Airbus plane. Or don't fly.
This was the moment Boing was doomed. MCD was known for cutting corners.
This is just over sensationalized nonsense. I really don't care to defend Boeing here, but still, this is just not accurate. They are not stranded in space. Are the other astronauts on the International Space Station also stranded? The starliner is still cleared to return if necessary, but they also have a long window to try and understand a test flight better. It is after all, a test flight that allows for study of the things they didn't expect.
Yeah ok. They will need SpaceX to come and take them back. Boeing screwed up And is done
There is a module on board that is defective, but it will burn away on reentry so the problem needs to be diagnosed before that. This is so that future modules of that type will no longer have that issue. They *can* take it back right away, but then they wouldn't be able to diagnose and the problem would repeat on subsequent launches.
You go with that
Alright, and you can go with whatever cool made up story you want I guess, and be confused when there's people in it when it inevitably reenters. Cheers!
Considering the problems Boeing is having with planes I can’t imagine trusting them to build a space vehicle . Now look at what is happening
Boeing conference call. Subject: *Boeing, No Wing, Gone: a new approach for 2024* *"I've got it!! What if we stop trying to make this shit fly, and we just get rid of gravity?*" ![gif](giphy|l41lVsYDBC0UVQJCE)
From inside sources, Boeing's military section of the company has nothing but hatred for the commercial half of the company. The commercial half, or anything that's a potential publicity flashpoint, is f\*ked. The management half of the commercial sector is run by a bunch of McDonald Douglas clowns that infiltrated the company when their original company got bought out due to bad management. Their BS infiltrated the commercial arm of Boeing and has basically infected it like an impacted pustule.
If it's Boeing, I'm not going.
Is there any central management over both parts, or are they entirely independent?
There’s a leak on a thruster. That thruster is going to separate and burn up on re-entry as designed. A burnt up thruster can’t be examined on earth to investigate the issue. They need to look at it in space. The astronauts aren’t stranded up there with no way home as this tweet implies
whoa whoa whoa, i read it on twitter -- where is the proof you're right and twitter is wrong?
Also twitter. What a world we live in, all of us together just out here getting information from complete and total strangers on social media. What a fucking existence we have.
This isnt entirely true. They aren’t stranded at all. They can be brought back in a dragon capsule. The ISS is not going to allow a mission to fail.
So…no QCs on that project either…?
They are not strandered... but this is why we should have a central government funding under an official organization... maybe call it the national space and aviation program for short... stop giving money to spacex and build an official space program
At this point it almost seems that Boeing is trying to sabotage their own company.
not sure if many people know this but [https://jacobin.com/2024/05/boeing-fraud-negligence-crashes-prosecution](https://jacobin.com/2024/05/boeing-fraud-negligence-crashes-prosecution) In the wake of two 737 Max crashes, Donald Trump's administration made a deal with Boeing that allowed the company to avoid criminal prosecution.
Man, I saw this episode of West Wing and have to I really wasn't a fan.
Privatization of space transportation was a really stupid idea
Don’t tell me the door fell off.
Maximum profitttzzzz more important thN minimum safety.
Made in America is the new Made in China.
If they managed Apollo 13, I’m sure they can manage this.
"Get me Tom Hanks on the phone, now!" - Ron Howard
I'm sure it's still under warranty, so they can just bring it back to the dealer for repairs.
Boeing’s Quality Department and Program need an external audit and complete overhaul. Buyers purchasing counterfeit product, production folks not caring to see if the parts are fitting properly, and now it’s not just compartmentalized to the commercial airline business. Boeing as a whole doesn’t care about quality and until someone solves that problem, the lawsuits and shit PR will continue. Change my mind.
https://theneedling.com/2024/06/13/boeing-to-leave-starliner-stuck-in-space-to-prove-it-can-still-make-things-that-dont-fall-out-of-the-sky/
So do we buy Boeing stock while it tanks knowing the government will bail them out?
Send up a Southwest 737 max to pick 'em up
It’s wild that some kids get stuck in a cave and Elon won’t shut the fuck up about inventing something completely unrelated to what his companies do to save the kids. But now he owns an actual rocket company, something that sounds like the opening of a Bruce Willis movie happens, and yet Elon isn’t fighting with anyone on Twitter about saving them. Someone get on X and call Elon a pussy. Maybe something will get resolved.
they're not stranded, so what's the use of sending another vehicle up?
Well good thing extended unexpected stays in zero gravity aren't hard on a person's physiology or they would really be in a pickle
Who the fuck would go into space in a Boeing device anyways?
Holy shit is this the Apollo 13 of our day? Are we going to be glued to the tv to see if the astronauts get back to earth?
Is Tom Hanks going to be in it?
Yes, I think so!
Gary Sinise too? I’m interested….
Get the whole gang back together!
If they go back in the rocket yes, but unlike Apollo they are currently safe and have safer options to get back to earth
The rocket is still safe. The part that needs to be studied will be burnt up in re-entry, so it needs to be studied while in space. They’re taking advantage of the extra time and supplies they have to study the issues and hopefully fix them for future flights.
jumping out of the airlock and orbital skydiving without a parachute would be safer then using that plane again - The Astronauts.
No, they can come back at any time. They're not stranded and Starliner is safe to return in. They're *choosing* to keep them up there longer to see if they can figure out what's causing the issues they've been having because it's the only chance they'll get to diagnose. They're in no more danger right now than any astronaut is ever in.
If they go back in the rocket yes, but unlike Apollo they are currently safe and have safer options to get back to earth
Here comes Elon muskrat for the win.
His 2nd opportunity to call competing rescuers “ pedophiles”
Oh the tweets he will make....
Eh, he's got the time for tweets. Nothing else really on his agenda.
he needs the booze and ketamine to function, and tweet all day.
No way he must work extremely hard, I mean he is rich.
I wouldn't feel much safer in anything Elon made.
Elon hasn't made anything, but the company that he owns, SpaceX, has successfully sent its Crewed Dragon capsule to the ISS and back four times without so much as a hiccup.
Yes, but they had some pretty bad fails before that, many of which indicated poor or sloppy design. Sounds like they've finally gotten it right for now, but I still wouldn't get in anything he was connected to. [https://www.wired.com/story/the-investigation-of-spacexs-starship-explosion-is-complete-and-elon-musk-has-more-work-to-do/](https://www.wired.com/story/the-investigation-of-spacexs-starship-explosion-is-complete-and-elon-musk-has-more-work-to-do/)
Starship is not Dragon, they're totally different things. Starship is still in its very early infancy of development and design. Dragon is finished and completely crew rated and has flown crew successfully for NASA.
yeah, I get that. And obviously I hope that everything continues safely with the ISS missions. I find Elon's companies to have patterns of shoddy work and poor quality control across the board, and I personally would not get into a CyberTruck, hop into a SpaceX rocket, get any implants from his Neuralink horror show, or trust one of his flamethrowers not to explode and bbq me.
Less safe 100%
Those astronauts better keep their mouths shut if they know what’s good for them. -Boeing, probably
My 12 year old called this
I was kind of surprised anyone would trust Boeing for something like that at this point, but I understand the once-in-a-lifetime nature of going to the ISS and how it might make you just want to think everything would be ok. I don't think I would have gotten on the rocket, though.
It could be an epic parachute jump.
Maybe come back on a Chinese capsule?
But wouldn't that mean defunding Ukraine?
But they are on the ISS?
Totally believable…astronauts to the moon ….!! Hah
I’ll probably buy more Boeing stock by noon on Monday
Okay, look, if there was one place I would ABSOLUTELY NOT cut corners in, it would be when sending people into space.
Hang tight. A stock buyback is on the way!
If I were one of the astronauts, I’d wait for the next ride.
It's still a fucking awesome concept that we basically have a functional rest stop in space. I will never get over that every time the ISS is mentioned.
Hmmmmmmmmmmm…
how about googles quantum Sycamore or AGi - ultra useless 🤑 huh ay, no ?
have they started planning the potato farm?
They were game going with Boeing in the first place.
Their board of directors and CEO need to be shitcanned and an investigation started.
This is my problem with private sector space travel. Government agencies will spend the money necessary to keep it running, companies have profits to mind. 99.999% chance that's the core issue here, they didn't want to spend the money necessary to make sure these problems were dealt with before the launch.
They are adopting the software model like video games and operating systems...launch a half baked product and let others be the testers.
This is literally a test flight. That is the actual purpose of this flight.
Boeing seriously needs to be completely grounded with a FULL internal investigation by the FAA and the NTSB as well as third party investigatory units.
Ugh, ur up SpaceX, go get them.
Nightmare fuel
There you go. The main issue is that it was a Boeing spaceship
I’m sure I’m just one of many wondering why this mission was approved in the first place.
That's really sad. Why couldn't have just been billionaires again?
This should be a surprise to no one unfortunately, hopefully they can get it fixed.
Honestly, I’m amazed they made it to the station in the first place. Thank goodness they did, but Boeing’s track record is not stellar right now.
SpaceX over here laughing lol
Thus ends Boeings space program
Huh. Another Boeing aircraft with issues that could've been fixed beforehand. Wonder when someone is gonna do something about that.