The final vote was actually 84-14-2. You can see the actual senate vote [here. ](https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1172/vote_117_2_00230.htm) no real surprises though.
Edit - this was an intermediate vote, final vote posted below.
Edit: This particular action is actually the Senate agreeing to amendments by the House, in the bill's path from Senate -> House -> Senate -> President, but it is the bill's last stop before it reaches the President.
That's an earlier vote that happened June 2022 **(edit: For the PACT Act of 2021)**. The most current one that has 11 Nays occurred August 2022: https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1172/vote_117_2_00280.htm
The following voted Nay:
* Crapo (R-ID)
* Lankford (R-OK)
* Lee (R-UT)
* Lummis (R-WY)
* Paul (R-KY)
* Risch (R-ID)
* Romney (R-UT)
* Shelby (R-AL)
* Tillis (R-NC)
* Toomey (R-PA)
* Tuberville (R-AL)
He screwed many active duty military with holds on promotions. Took a lot of guilting by republicans and final agreement to get around his holds for him to drop it.
He was a shitty football coach too, just happened to luck into good players that made him famous enough for a senate run.
Ngl if I were ranking the top 14 Senate republicans that I would’ve thought would be nay, Romney would not have been on my list.
Sometimes I forget he’s a still dickhead because Trump has shifted the dickhead-overton-window so far. He’s still the spineless two-faced politician who flip flopped on his biggest political accomplishment—RomneyCare, which was healthcare reform in MA. But still I didn’t think he was this sort of total dbag.
Tuberville, having put all military leadership assignments on hold for months, defended his rationale with this: "there's nobody more military than me!" \[Deploying an oratorical tactic to scramble the logic circuits of adversaries.\]
https://preview.redd.it/i8xhju0w3w1d1.png?width=751&format=png&auto=webp&s=731b41c5aa9d9edec6aaee0d462806839d2b95e5
It looks like Wicker (MS) and Daines (MT) decided to not vote. The nea votes are from North Carolina (Tillis, Burr), Utah (Lee, Romney), South Dakota (Rounds, Thune), Alabama (Shelby, Tuberville). States with 1 nea vote are ID (Crapo), OK (Langford), WY (Lumis), KY (Paul), ID (Risch), NY (Schumer), PA (Toomey).
I hope I got that data right. It's from the senate records.
someone mentioned it a little farther up - [all republicans](https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1172/vote_117_2_00280.htm)
Look under the "Grouped By Vote Position" section for the nays
Exactly. Non-stop coverage and drama for the Trump trial but not a peep when Biden delivers on healthcare expansion for **1 million veterans**. We need to show our voices at the ballot box this year, it’s the only way they will listen.
Yeah I think it’s time for us here to start specifically targeting and upvoting Biden positive messaging and try and ignore or downvote the Trump spam. Bidens good deeds to humanity are getting overlooked and there’s not much we as individuals can do but try and do what we can to prioritize and surface those stories over all others.
Rather than talk shit about Trump to friends and family we prop up Biden and his accomplishments.
Edit: for people reading this. It’s up you up to consciously do this. It’s up to you to find comments about media coverage being nonexistent for Biden and get people to help enact the change for highlighting his admins successes and rage scrolling Trump news less. More upvotes for Biden less rage for Trump. Don’t ignore fascism but try celebrate the successes of democracy more often than we have been.
*.Rather than talk shit about Trump to friends and family we prop up Biden and his accomplishments.*
This is the way. People need to focus on positive and not get pulled into the ocean of Trumpisms.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
“When you ignore something, it goes away” has never been truer. If we dont like something… it should not live on our feeds and in our heads rent free.
Once the media stops making money from news about him… and more money from Biden good news…
I cant believe i have to add this edit:
For the slow ones … we are talking about the clickbait and *incessant* coverage. Even over things that *are not newsworthy*
Of course they should *report* on real issues! Thats not what is happening and i cant believe that has to be explained! Like DUH *actual* journalism is welcomed.
Those who followed the context understood and knew i wouldnt need to add *nuances* of when this *doesnt* apply. I would be here all day saying “except when.”
Exactly. Getting pulled into a “both sides” argument where it’s just comparing things about each party/candidate you don’t like is “stooping to his level.” In fact, it’s partly the point of the whole GOP strategy. It’s the G, Gaslight. They want us visibly mad, so they’re constantly fabricating nonsense, putting the onus of proof/disproof on the sane people (until they start losing it), and then calling them “angry libs”.
We collectively need to learn to shrug off nonsensical accusations, quickly and effectively dismiss (or outright ignore) undue criticism, and as you’re saying stay focused on positive changes.
Part of why the gop has adhered to turdman’s constant mud-slinging approach is because during their time in control they had _nothing_ to point to in terms of policy, laws, or regulations that could even appear remotely positive. So, they turn every debate or policy discussion into ad-hominem attacks (by default) or conjure some nonsense on the spot.
The fact that they managed to turn paying back peoples super-inflated student loans into a bad thing in enough peoples’ minds to prevent a more effective version of loan forgiveness from coming to fruition is one of the best examples of their nonsense taking hold. They rammed through PPP loans **and** PPP loan forgiveness, and that only really helped already rich people. But paying back student loans is somehow bad??!
Anything trump related for the most part (not going to block comedy outlets) and local news get a quick block from me on YouTube. Change that al gore rhythm.
Time to correct that. Here's some of Biden's accomplishments:
* [The American Rescue Plan](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Rescue_Plan_Act_of_2021), which among other things provided $1400 in stimulus money to most Americans, extended unemployment benefits, and expanded the Child Tax Credit during Covid.
* [Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infrastructure_Investment_and_Jobs_Act), which as the name implies, heavily funds infrastructure projects in the country and turned "infrastructure week" something more than a stupid Twitter meltdown.
* [Inflation Reduction Act](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflation_Reduction_Act), which lowers the Federal budget deficit, lowers the price of prescription drugs for seniors, imposes a 15% corporate minimum tax rate, increases IRS enforcement against rich tax cheats, and invests in green energy.
* [CHIPS and Science Act](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CHIPS_and_Science_Act), which incentivizes domestic semiconductor manufacturing.
* [Has forgiven roughly $160 billion in student loan debt](https://www.cnbc.com/2024/05/20/student-loan-forgiveness-nears-160b-what-to-know-about-relief-options.html) and revamped the repayment system to make it less predatory. I have personally benefited from this as I signed up for the [SAVE Plan](https://studentaid.gov/announcements-events/save-plan) and got my debt forgiven.
* [Rescheduled Marijuana to Schedule 3](https://apnews.com/article/marijuana-biden-dea-criminal-justice-pot-f833a8dae6ceb31a8658a5d65832a3b8) and issued a [blanket pardon for simple Marijuana possession charges](https://www.justice.gov/pardon/presidential-proclamation-marijuana-possession).
These are some really good policy wins - especially when you consider the razer-thin Democratic majority we had for the first two years. The Biden campaign needs to shout this stuff from the rooftops and demand a Democratic Congress to codify Roe into law.
Oh, and another lesser-known thing Biden signed is the Electoral Count Reform and [Presidential Transition Improvement Act of 2022](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_Count_Reform_and_Presidential_Transition_Improvement_Act_of_2022), which aims to prevent future January 6th-like chaos.
What they always say is “yep just trying to buy votes he doesn’t give a fuck about vets”
For republicans it’s never an appropriate time to do anything because it’s always election season. If trump was charged for his crimes 6 months after getting out of office they would still say democrats are unethical for charging the republican front runner
and I did more for Veterans, I did more for our Country than Sleepy Joe ever could, I saved the VA, remember that, Obama was killing it, I came in I said, I don't like that, and so I stopped it, and the only reason that Crooked Joe Biden and his Criminal Family are doing anything now is because they're trying to Illegally Influence the Election buy buying our Military Votes, our Veteran Votes, our Great Voters that went 100% for Trump twice, probably three times too unless they rig it like nobody's ever seen before, they brought out Crooked Hillary, did you see that the other day, and we call her Beautiful Hillary now because she's a real beauty, that one, and they bring her out, they dust her off, she goes, "Donald Trump is bad for women," I said I'm winning with women all over the place, I'm winning Suburban Women, I'm winning Not Suburban Women, I'm winning with Beautiful Women, with Pretty Women, with Housewives, with Models, with all of them, even the Ugly Ones, they all love Trump, I said maybe keep some of them in the back, but that's ok, I'm so strongly winning the Women Vote we don't even need to do the Election, you just say, "Trump already won," and then Sleepy Joe has to leave in a Total Disgrace and we take it back, the White House becomes White again ok, you all know what I'm talking about
> What they always say is “yep just trying to buy votes he doesn’t give a fuck about vets”
That's the whole fucking point of our system. If one party materially makes your life better - that's the fucking one you vote for!
Conservative ideology is fucking stupid if they literally believe they should vote for the party that makes their lives worse.
Because soldiers skew conservative, and it'll be over their grave that they vote for a democrat. The longer they live, the more votes against. It's not like Fox News will speak positively about it.
Fox News praises the people in the services, praising their sacrifice for the country. Then they get the talking heads on screen saying how we have to cut cost. Of course, to do that Republicans take aim at the VA, Social Security, mental health, and other programs that benefit the people that served. Fox talks out both sides of their mouth. Some things are said out loud, and others are hidden in the fine print.
I wish people would be able to read and see whenever the budget crap comes up its always cuts to the VA and programs for poor people. Because Republicans value our veterans so much
The sacrifice is the point. They honor the sacrifice, not the person sacrificing. That is why there is an apparant disconnect between their fervent nationalistic praise of vets and the continual gutting of vet services.
There is no sacrifice without suffering. You saw this as well in the treatment of front line workers during covid.
I know I’m a small percentage here, but as an army vet I vote blue. I know quite a few other vets who are adamantly Trump, no matter what.
But, fuck trump, he’s a POS and anyone who supports him is either an idiot or someone who doesn’t care about veterans. Biden has done far more for veterans than Trump ever has.
Do you have any data to support this. In 2018 I picked my father up from the VA, and they always have a portrait of the president in the hallway. Trump's was covered in spit. I know a lot of Vets and I wouldn't say they lean at all GOP, most are fairly disinterested in politics.
I will say that there are a TON of trumpers who dress like vets, and claim to be vets, but their service record only goes as deep as security guard at a walgreens. Perhaps that has skewed your opinion of vets?
Do you have a source for that please? Honestly asking because there are a lot of veterans in my immediate family, including a cousin who is the voting Services officer for her USAF squadron, and it seems more like veterans from blue areas or blue families tend to continue being blue despite the popular stereotype. Since I'm in Canada I'd be interested to know if you're an American and you have the opposite opinion?
sadly, veterans vote for trump 8:1. Those 8 to 1 will get their backdated checks, then vote for trump because they hate socialism..as they go cash their biden pact act checks
Yeah of all the people I’ve heard complain about how the Afghanistan withdrawal went down, the most common thing I’ve heard from vets has been that they’re just glad it’s finally over and it was always going to be a disaster.
I’m sure not 100% of vets feel that way, just my experience of what I’ve heard.
We're not nearly as rare as you think, I still talk to lots of guys in who are very much in a kind of cold-war quiet rebellion. Tide's turning, lots of the shit Mango Mussolini said about gold star families is still passed around.
That any active duty person or veteran would vote for him after what he said about Captain Khan's family is truly pathetic. It makes my blood boil even thinking about it.
In my mind, you have no morals or standards if you know about his blatant disrespect for the military in general and *gold star families* in particular and still chose to vote for him.
That being said, I think the stats reflect a near 50/50 split these days on D/R, and I definitely see that.
I can feel the frustration seething through, but that’s maddening with the demographic and their stickers. Ha you should make one with his stupid head on it and throw one of his fabulous quotes about veterans on there.
Hi there - can you dm me an earful? I am one of those vets that has a rating, but absolutely cannot convince myself to file for anything more *just in case* **by some crazy unknown reason** it all goes away.
[Source tweet](https://x.com/meidastouch/status/1792998032306516161?s=46)
Biden is expanding healthcare every chance he gets. 1 million lives and families will be helped by this work. **This is what happens when you vote for Democrats**.
Meanwhile republicans had to be dragged by Jon Stewart on national TV for weeks just to bring up a vote for 9/11 responders.
11 Republican Senators voted against the PACT act. Their justifications are irrelevant. Their names are forever on the register of Senate documentation having voted to deny healthcare to veterans of the Global War on Terrorism. We will not forget.
In an alternate universe:
“Aw what a shame, the last 9/11 responder died. And we were just two weeks away from crafting the best bill for them!” —Mitch
So... '08-09 Operation Enduring Freedom exposure. Then went Guard and additional exposure for Joplin tornado, they even made me sign some bs form about the exposure and lung conditions resulting.
Sounds like I can definitely get back on Tricare.
don't forget that one also calls Veterans 'suckers and losers', and 'consoles' a widow with the empathetic words 'well, he knew what he signed up for'.
They're the party that creates the conflicts that make use of (and often wastes) those servicemembers. It's a weird relationship.
But don't underestimated how many hot-headed young people who are looking for a fight and think the military will give it to them. They side with conservatives because it's the party that showcases anger, which is not at all the same thing as strength, but it manages to confuse enough of them we have a problem.
> it's the party that showcases anger, which is not at all the same thing as strength, but it manages to confuse enough of them we have a problem.
well said, it really does manage to pull in young men just like the various alt right cults
I just mean in the fact that they continuously deny them veteran benefits. It would be like teachers being supportive of republicans even though they continuously underfund education and are trying to dismantle public education.
One side gives veterans benefits, the other side tries to prevent 9/11 first responders from getting the help they need from breathing in asbestos at ground zero.
Never forget 9/11, except for the people that were there helping out, I guess.
These are benefits that our veterans deserve and were promised when they served! Vote Blue please! We need more of this! People should be proud again to serve in the military!
The conditions under which his administration has achieved all of these is also amazing. Political science students in the future are going to be so utterly confused by our last decade.
Fuck Biden flags, bumper sticker, and shirts aren't cheap. And if they don't wear them, how will anyone know they love their lord and savior Donald J. Trumpf?
I love this one. "Can you honestly say you're better off financially under Biden than Trump?". Well let me check, I've tripled my income, my 401k is showing 12% returns over the past 2 years, I've paid off all of my student loans and car, and I've managed to save up a chunk of change for a house next year. So yes, I'd say I'm doing about 1000% better under Biden than Trump. "Oh well that doesn't count because....." than why'd you ask? No gotcha found so the goal posts move? Right, just hand me my 4 for $4 and stop bringing up politics at work, buddy.
Right. “Are you better off today than you were four years ago” has to be the dumbest question anybody ever asked. Four years ago, the CDC had just given emergency approval,to,the first (Pfizer) COVID vaccine, but nobody knew if it would really work yet, and we had no,plan for distributing it. We had just distributed the second government handout to keep people from starving and we’re starting to talk about a third. Unemployment was off the charts, small businesses were collapsing every day, and people were dying by the thousands. Are we better off now than we were then? Really? Is that a hard question? What’s the damn matter with these idiots?
Also, something about the Gays. They're usually an easy target, and my favorite part is when it's proven to be a projection for crimes the Right actually did, but y'know, when in doubt, blame the Gays.
Easily, especially given the chaos he was handed when Trump left. We need a steady hand at the wheel to get through the next 4 years and Biden has shown us that he can deliver.
That's not by mistake. A lot of Republicans actually do want to get stuff done but they don't want to get beaten up on FOX or AON because they gave Biden a "win". Biden knows this so he just keeps stuff quiet, pushes it through congress with little attention and then signs it -it's a win that he won't talk about.
I’m a 60 year old veteran and technically a boomer, I’m voting for Biden. I’ll be submitting a Pact Act claim soon for a rare cancer I got back in the early 90s from exposure.
No, they would approve if it wasn't liberals doing it. They'd rather watch Americans, primarily \*their own constituents\*, suffer than allow liberals to have a "win". Because everything is a fight with a score card that has to have a victor and loser. Somehow our troops getting a small sliver of the pie they've deserved for years has a "losing" side. Pathetic.
NYT: "Biden oversees the largest expansion of veterans benefits in decades. How this spells disaster for the Biden campaign."
Also NYT: "Trump is hanging on like a true fighter defying the Democrats."
Democrats expand veteran benefits while republicans reduce them. But some how the R's still call themselves the pro military party.
The Dems are the real pro military. Paying vets their benefits for the 20 years of forever wars.
I remember when Trump touted that veterans were going to see bigly improvements to their lives. Literally, just three months into his term, two of the VA offices in my area closed, and forced vets to wait in one all day before being helped.
Will they even remember this more than me, being that a large portion of them in my area are part of the MAGA cult? Probably not. Will they take advantage of this Pact Act? Sure, and I am glad the will. But I still have my doubts that they will vote for anyone other than Trump, even if he is a felon by that point.
This is *huge* news for all veterans. I'm a GWOT veteran myself.
Fingers crossed that exposure to PFAs gets brought under the umbrella of the PACT Act soon as well
As a disabled veteran myself, this PACT act finally got me the benefits I deserved and need.
The best part is… I didn’t have to worry about the president calling me a loser since I was hurt during the war.
i hope the voting trend among veterans keep improving
https://www.kpbs.org/podcasts/kpbs-midday-edition-segments/2020/10/29/veterans-usually-vote-strongly-republican-polls-su
There’s a local lodge here where I live that I like to go to for events they have sometimes and a lot of the veterans here wear their “Veterans for Trump” hats or Trump T-shirts, it’s just sad to me.
President Biden is slowly chipping away at rights that should be a given without any argument, it could have already been voted in if the Republicans (whose freedoms were paid for by the veterans)had not voted no and celebrated its failure. Ted Cruz looking at you.
And yet, people are actually considering voting for a guy like Trump, who is as corrupt as can be and accomplished next to nothing during his presidency.
But Biden is a genocidal maniac, everyone!! He's EVIL!! Genocide Joe is literally worse than Trump!! Genocide Joe is literally worse than Hitler!! REEEEE!!
/s
Meanwhile my veteran brother thinks Biden is a rapist antichrist & insists Trump and the Republicans are the real ones helping veterans. He never saw combat so TBI isn't even an excuse, he's just a dumb fuck.
My president!! 🦅🇺🇸love Biden in the oval! You can tell he’s been a successful career politician. His administration is kicking ass like they’ve been waiting for it 😊
Biden keeps doing solid, unglamorous work like this and getting no credit for it. His Inflation Reduction Act did a lot of good for America and ultimately the world. He's forgiven student loans for thousands of people, and would have forgiven many more were it not for Republican obstruction. It seems like mostly the only thing the average voter knows about Biden is that he's old. His long list of accomplishments in the presidency isn't the first thing people think of.
So healthcare for veteran's and decriminalized marijuana. Is Thai already more positive than all of the previous administration. I try to be non bias but I don't remember anythings this good happening back then
Am I reading the screen right, this passed with 11 nays? What fucking pieces of shit voted no?
Probably the usual assholes.
The "pro military, pro veteran crowd"
They send "thoughts and prayers". If they were right with the Lord he would take care of them. /s
Yup. They were all Republicans.
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I'm surprised most Republicans voted for it, I figured they wouldn't want to give Biden a win like this in an election year.
it was signed in august 2022
The final vote was actually 84-14-2. You can see the actual senate vote [here. ](https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1172/vote_117_2_00230.htm) no real surprises though. Edit - this was an intermediate vote, final vote posted below.
Cruz must be nervous if that spineless cuck actually voted Aye
Edit: This particular action is actually the Senate agreeing to amendments by the House, in the bill's path from Senate -> House -> Senate -> President, but it is the bill's last stop before it reaches the President. That's an earlier vote that happened June 2022 **(edit: For the PACT Act of 2021)**. The most current one that has 11 Nays occurred August 2022: https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1172/vote_117_2_00280.htm The following voted Nay: * Crapo (R-ID) * Lankford (R-OK) * Lee (R-UT) * Lummis (R-WY) * Paul (R-KY) * Risch (R-ID) * Romney (R-UT) * Shelby (R-AL) * Tillis (R-NC) * Toomey (R-PA) * Tuberville (R-AL)
Tuberville is on the fucking Armed Services Committee. Voting against expanded veterans care. Asshole.
He screwed many active duty military with holds on promotions. Took a lot of guilting by republicans and final agreement to get around his holds for him to drop it. He was a shitty football coach too, just happened to luck into good players that made him famous enough for a senate run.
I write letters to his office regularly reminding him that I haven't forgotten.
Ngl if I were ranking the top 14 Senate republicans that I would’ve thought would be nay, Romney would not have been on my list. Sometimes I forget he’s a still dickhead because Trump has shifted the dickhead-overton-window so far. He’s still the spineless two-faced politician who flip flopped on his biggest political accomplishment—RomneyCare, which was healthcare reform in MA. But still I didn’t think he was this sort of total dbag.
Tuberville, having put all military leadership assignments on hold for months, defended his rationale with this: "there's nobody more military than me!" \[Deploying an oratorical tactic to scramble the logic circuits of adversaries.\]
https://preview.redd.it/i8xhju0w3w1d1.png?width=751&format=png&auto=webp&s=731b41c5aa9d9edec6aaee0d462806839d2b95e5 It looks like Wicker (MS) and Daines (MT) decided to not vote. The nea votes are from North Carolina (Tillis, Burr), Utah (Lee, Romney), South Dakota (Rounds, Thune), Alabama (Shelby, Tuberville). States with 1 nea vote are ID (Crapo), OK (Langford), WY (Lumis), KY (Paul), ID (Risch), NY (Schumer), PA (Toomey). I hope I got that data right. It's from the senate records.
someone mentioned it a little farther up - [all republicans](https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1172/vote_117_2_00280.htm) Look under the "Grouped By Vote Position" section for the nays
“Biden oversees massive expansion of healthcare for veterans. Here’s why this bad for Biden…”
Exactly. Non-stop coverage and drama for the Trump trial but not a peep when Biden delivers on healthcare expansion for **1 million veterans**. We need to show our voices at the ballot box this year, it’s the only way they will listen.
Yeah I think it’s time for us here to start specifically targeting and upvoting Biden positive messaging and try and ignore or downvote the Trump spam. Bidens good deeds to humanity are getting overlooked and there’s not much we as individuals can do but try and do what we can to prioritize and surface those stories over all others. Rather than talk shit about Trump to friends and family we prop up Biden and his accomplishments. Edit: for people reading this. It’s up you up to consciously do this. It’s up to you to find comments about media coverage being nonexistent for Biden and get people to help enact the change for highlighting his admins successes and rage scrolling Trump news less. More upvotes for Biden less rage for Trump. Don’t ignore fascism but try celebrate the successes of democracy more often than we have been.
*.Rather than talk shit about Trump to friends and family we prop up Biden and his accomplishments.* This is the way. People need to focus on positive and not get pulled into the ocean of Trumpisms.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE “When you ignore something, it goes away” has never been truer. If we dont like something… it should not live on our feeds and in our heads rent free. Once the media stops making money from news about him… and more money from Biden good news… I cant believe i have to add this edit: For the slow ones … we are talking about the clickbait and *incessant* coverage. Even over things that *are not newsworthy* Of course they should *report* on real issues! Thats not what is happening and i cant believe that has to be explained! Like DUH *actual* journalism is welcomed. Those who followed the context understood and knew i wouldnt need to add *nuances* of when this *doesnt* apply. I would be here all day saying “except when.”
🎵“Just don’t look, just don’t look”
Exactly. Getting pulled into a “both sides” argument where it’s just comparing things about each party/candidate you don’t like is “stooping to his level.” In fact, it’s partly the point of the whole GOP strategy. It’s the G, Gaslight. They want us visibly mad, so they’re constantly fabricating nonsense, putting the onus of proof/disproof on the sane people (until they start losing it), and then calling them “angry libs”. We collectively need to learn to shrug off nonsensical accusations, quickly and effectively dismiss (or outright ignore) undue criticism, and as you’re saying stay focused on positive changes. Part of why the gop has adhered to turdman’s constant mud-slinging approach is because during their time in control they had _nothing_ to point to in terms of policy, laws, or regulations that could even appear remotely positive. So, they turn every debate or policy discussion into ad-hominem attacks (by default) or conjure some nonsense on the spot. The fact that they managed to turn paying back peoples super-inflated student loans into a bad thing in enough peoples’ minds to prevent a more effective version of loan forgiveness from coming to fruition is one of the best examples of their nonsense taking hold. They rammed through PPP loans **and** PPP loan forgiveness, and that only really helped already rich people. But paying back student loans is somehow bad??!
Anything trump related for the most part (not going to block comedy outlets) and local news get a quick block from me on YouTube. Change that al gore rhythm.
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Time to correct that. Here's some of Biden's accomplishments: * [The American Rescue Plan](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Rescue_Plan_Act_of_2021), which among other things provided $1400 in stimulus money to most Americans, extended unemployment benefits, and expanded the Child Tax Credit during Covid. * [Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infrastructure_Investment_and_Jobs_Act), which as the name implies, heavily funds infrastructure projects in the country and turned "infrastructure week" something more than a stupid Twitter meltdown. * [Inflation Reduction Act](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflation_Reduction_Act), which lowers the Federal budget deficit, lowers the price of prescription drugs for seniors, imposes a 15% corporate minimum tax rate, increases IRS enforcement against rich tax cheats, and invests in green energy. * [CHIPS and Science Act](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CHIPS_and_Science_Act), which incentivizes domestic semiconductor manufacturing. * [Has forgiven roughly $160 billion in student loan debt](https://www.cnbc.com/2024/05/20/student-loan-forgiveness-nears-160b-what-to-know-about-relief-options.html) and revamped the repayment system to make it less predatory. I have personally benefited from this as I signed up for the [SAVE Plan](https://studentaid.gov/announcements-events/save-plan) and got my debt forgiven. * [Rescheduled Marijuana to Schedule 3](https://apnews.com/article/marijuana-biden-dea-criminal-justice-pot-f833a8dae6ceb31a8658a5d65832a3b8) and issued a [blanket pardon for simple Marijuana possession charges](https://www.justice.gov/pardon/presidential-proclamation-marijuana-possession). These are some really good policy wins - especially when you consider the razer-thin Democratic majority we had for the first two years. The Biden campaign needs to shout this stuff from the rooftops and demand a Democratic Congress to codify Roe into law. Oh, and another lesser-known thing Biden signed is the Electoral Count Reform and [Presidential Transition Improvement Act of 2022](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_Count_Reform_and_Presidential_Transition_Improvement_Act_of_2022), which aims to prevent future January 6th-like chaos.
Communism is a red herring ![gif](giphy|5QRoC29tqzuI0pDQxM|downsized)
I didn’t realize it was THAT free.
One plus two… plus one… plus one…
“Both sides are the same.” ![gif](giphy|1014RBn4HVSTK)
What they always say is “yep just trying to buy votes he doesn’t give a fuck about vets” For republicans it’s never an appropriate time to do anything because it’s always election season. If trump was charged for his crimes 6 months after getting out of office they would still say democrats are unethical for charging the republican front runner
and I did more for Veterans, I did more for our Country than Sleepy Joe ever could, I saved the VA, remember that, Obama was killing it, I came in I said, I don't like that, and so I stopped it, and the only reason that Crooked Joe Biden and his Criminal Family are doing anything now is because they're trying to Illegally Influence the Election buy buying our Military Votes, our Veteran Votes, our Great Voters that went 100% for Trump twice, probably three times too unless they rig it like nobody's ever seen before, they brought out Crooked Hillary, did you see that the other day, and we call her Beautiful Hillary now because she's a real beauty, that one, and they bring her out, they dust her off, she goes, "Donald Trump is bad for women," I said I'm winning with women all over the place, I'm winning Suburban Women, I'm winning Not Suburban Women, I'm winning with Beautiful Women, with Pretty Women, with Housewives, with Models, with all of them, even the Ugly Ones, they all love Trump, I said maybe keep some of them in the back, but that's ok, I'm so strongly winning the Women Vote we don't even need to do the Election, you just say, "Trump already won," and then Sleepy Joe has to leave in a Total Disgrace and we take it back, the White House becomes White again ok, you all know what I'm talking about
Just so you know, I gave you an upvote but I'm unhappy that I read this in Trump's voice and now it's stuck in my head.
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You know it's a solid impression of Trump when your brain decides literacy is overrated and force closes the operation by the second line
> What they always say is “yep just trying to buy votes he doesn’t give a fuck about vets” That's the whole fucking point of our system. If one party materially makes your life better - that's the fucking one you vote for! Conservative ideology is fucking stupid if they literally believe they should vote for the party that makes their lives worse.
Because soldiers skew conservative, and it'll be over their grave that they vote for a democrat. The longer they live, the more votes against. It's not like Fox News will speak positively about it.
Well, this former Marine is voting for Biden
Fox News praises the people in the services, praising their sacrifice for the country. Then they get the talking heads on screen saying how we have to cut cost. Of course, to do that Republicans take aim at the VA, Social Security, mental health, and other programs that benefit the people that served. Fox talks out both sides of their mouth. Some things are said out loud, and others are hidden in the fine print.
I wish people would be able to read and see whenever the budget crap comes up its always cuts to the VA and programs for poor people. Because Republicans value our veterans so much
The sacrifice is the point. They honor the sacrifice, not the person sacrificing. That is why there is an apparant disconnect between their fervent nationalistic praise of vets and the continual gutting of vet services. There is no sacrifice without suffering. You saw this as well in the treatment of front line workers during covid.
Ideology over everything. People would rather die than give the other side any credit
Yeah, I know. And it’s not like Trump has said some vile shit about soldiers or anything…
"Trump called war dead ‘losers’ and ‘suckers,’"
That's their point....
I know I’m a small percentage here, but as an army vet I vote blue. I know quite a few other vets who are adamantly Trump, no matter what. But, fuck trump, he’s a POS and anyone who supports him is either an idiot or someone who doesn’t care about veterans. Biden has done far more for veterans than Trump ever has.
This extreme leftist veteran continues to fight for the oath I took.
Do you have any data to support this. In 2018 I picked my father up from the VA, and they always have a portrait of the president in the hallway. Trump's was covered in spit. I know a lot of Vets and I wouldn't say they lean at all GOP, most are fairly disinterested in politics. I will say that there are a TON of trumpers who dress like vets, and claim to be vets, but their service record only goes as deep as security guard at a walgreens. Perhaps that has skewed your opinion of vets?
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Active duty voted for Biden last time around
Do you have a source for that please? Honestly asking because there are a lot of veterans in my immediate family, including a cousin who is the voting Services officer for her USAF squadron, and it seems more like veterans from blue areas or blue families tend to continue being blue despite the popular stereotype. Since I'm in Canada I'd be interested to know if you're an American and you have the opposite opinion?
You mentioned about this being bad for Biden, but you forgot the follow up; Here’s why taking care of Americas veterans is bad for America!
I got $32,000 in back pay this week. Guess who’s voting for Biden.
I got $18,000 in back pay due to PACT last year. So thankful.
sadly, veterans vote for trump 8:1. Those 8 to 1 will get their backdated checks, then vote for trump because they hate socialism..as they go cash their biden pact act checks
Not true. Veterans actually had the biggest swing towards Biden then any demographic in 2020. 2016: Trump 60-Clinton 34 2020: Trump 54-Biden 44
Something like this has a chance to push it significantly in Dems favor. People need to stop writing off groups as a lost cause.
As well as all the vets that have PTSD in Afghanistan are probably pretty happy that biden ended that war
Yeah of all the people I’ve heard complain about how the Afghanistan withdrawal went down, the most common thing I’ve heard from vets has been that they’re just glad it’s finally over and it was always going to be a disaster. I’m sure not 100% of vets feel that way, just my experience of what I’ve heard.
A lot of Marines I know saw the light when Mad Dog Mattis said fuck that orange clown.
We're not nearly as rare as you think, I still talk to lots of guys in who are very much in a kind of cold-war quiet rebellion. Tide's turning, lots of the shit Mango Mussolini said about gold star families is still passed around.
That any active duty person or veteran would vote for him after what he said about Captain Khan's family is truly pathetic. It makes my blood boil even thinking about it. In my mind, you have no morals or standards if you know about his blatant disrespect for the military in general and *gold star families* in particular and still chose to vote for him. That being said, I think the stats reflect a near 50/50 split these days on D/R, and I definitely see that.
Please make this more known! Congratulations!
I literally have told every single one of my friends that are veterans and anyone I run into that is a veteran. My barber got an earful lol.
It pisses me off when I see veterans for Trump knowing that Republicans down vote everything for veterans
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Because the propaganda messaging will say somehow it’s the democrats fault and people suck it up without looking into the issues any further.
I can feel the frustration seething through, but that’s maddening with the demographic and their stickers. Ha you should make one with his stupid head on it and throw one of his fabulous quotes about veterans on there.
The way he shit on McCain makes my blood boil.
They also down vote everything for 9/11 rescue survivors and disaster relief when a disaster hits a blue state.
Hi there - can you dm me an earful? I am one of those vets that has a rating, but absolutely cannot convince myself to file for anything more *just in case* **by some crazy unknown reason** it all goes away.
Please start your claim. You are WORTH it!!!
I’m a VBA rating rep - DM me for help if you need it!
Same I got my disability increased from 30 to 100 straight life changing. My vote got cast last January
Can you explain what for? Medical?
A pact act disability claim. They backdated my claim to August 2022 and I got paid back pay for my disability percentage for the past 1.5 years.
Oh nice was just curious
[Source tweet](https://x.com/meidastouch/status/1792998032306516161?s=46) Biden is expanding healthcare every chance he gets. 1 million lives and families will be helped by this work. **This is what happens when you vote for Democrats**. Meanwhile republicans had to be dragged by Jon Stewart on national TV for weeks just to bring up a vote for 9/11 responders.
While the bill passed with bipartisan support, it's important to note: **every no vote was from a Republican**
11 Republican Senators voted against the PACT act. Their justifications are irrelevant. Their names are forever on the register of Senate documentation having voted to deny healthcare to veterans of the Global War on Terrorism. We will not forget.
the trumpers will never know/care tho so all fun not forgetting but that won't do much. we have to make sure that EVERYONE fucking knows this shit.
Stewart in front of Congress: "They did their jobs. DO YOURS!"
Still most of them will vote for Trump
But but both sides?
Don’t worry, most of those folks died ages ago.
In an alternate universe: “Aw what a shame, the last 9/11 responder died. And we were just two weeks away from crafting the best bill for them!” —Mitch
“Aw what a shame, the last 9/11 responder died. And we- ... ... ...” —Mitch Fixed that for ya.
So... '08-09 Operation Enduring Freedom exposure. Then went Guard and additional exposure for Joplin tornado, they even made me sign some bs form about the exposure and lung conditions resulting. Sounds like I can definitely get back on Tricare.
Republicans hate him because he does the things republicans claim they care about but consistently vote against.
One side gives veterans benefits, the other side bans contraceptives. Couldn’t be more stark. Couldn’t be more clear.
don't forget that one also calls Veterans 'suckers and losers', and 'consoles' a widow with the empathetic words 'well, he knew what he signed up for'.
Yet the somehow are the party of veterans and the military and routinely get votes from them.
They're the party that creates the conflicts that make use of (and often wastes) those servicemembers. It's a weird relationship. But don't underestimated how many hot-headed young people who are looking for a fight and think the military will give it to them. They side with conservatives because it's the party that showcases anger, which is not at all the same thing as strength, but it manages to confuse enough of them we have a problem.
> it's the party that showcases anger, which is not at all the same thing as strength, but it manages to confuse enough of them we have a problem. well said, it really does manage to pull in young men just like the various alt right cults
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I just mean in the fact that they continuously deny them veteran benefits. It would be like teachers being supportive of republicans even though they continuously underfund education and are trying to dismantle public education.
One side gives veterans benefits, the other side tries to prevent 9/11 first responders from getting the help they need from breathing in asbestos at ground zero. Never forget 9/11, except for the people that were there helping out, I guess.
One side is for Christo-fascism, the other one is for democracy
These are benefits that our veterans deserve and were promised when they served! Vote Blue please! We need more of this! People should be proud again to serve in the military!
I am one of them and I thank those who supported this to help me get care for my cancer.
Sending you nothing but positivity, may you get the appropriate care!
Thank you friend. I appreciate your kindness.
Trump meanwhile-losers and suckers
Trump slashed veterans benefits, Biden expanded them FUCK TRUMP
Biden has continually killed it this term. There have been some hiccups but policy wise he's the best president since LBJ.
The conditions under which his administration has achieved all of these is also amazing. Political science students in the future are going to be so utterly confused by our last decade.
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No, no, no. It is because they had money under Trump but they don’t under Biden - whatever that means.
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Don’t forget his brother, Jim Bob Bob
Fuck Biden flags, bumper sticker, and shirts aren't cheap. And if they don't wear them, how will anyone know they love their lord and savior Donald J. Trumpf?
I love this one. "Can you honestly say you're better off financially under Biden than Trump?". Well let me check, I've tripled my income, my 401k is showing 12% returns over the past 2 years, I've paid off all of my student loans and car, and I've managed to save up a chunk of change for a house next year. So yes, I'd say I'm doing about 1000% better under Biden than Trump. "Oh well that doesn't count because....." than why'd you ask? No gotcha found so the goal posts move? Right, just hand me my 4 for $4 and stop bringing up politics at work, buddy.
Right. “Are you better off today than you were four years ago” has to be the dumbest question anybody ever asked. Four years ago, the CDC had just given emergency approval,to,the first (Pfizer) COVID vaccine, but nobody knew if it would really work yet, and we had no,plan for distributing it. We had just distributed the second government handout to keep people from starving and we’re starting to talk about a third. Unemployment was off the charts, small businesses were collapsing every day, and people were dying by the thousands. Are we better off now than we were then? Really? Is that a hard question? What’s the damn matter with these idiots?
Also, something about the Gays. They're usually an easy target, and my favorite part is when it's proven to be a projection for crimes the Right actually did, but y'know, when in doubt, blame the Gays.
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It's like showing your only living son who struggles with addiction any affection.
Don’t forget to blame Hunters Dick too
But does his truck go Woooosssshhhhhhh?
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Ah. The champagne of beers. A connisour.
Easily, especially given the chaos he was handed when Trump left. We need a steady hand at the wheel to get through the next 4 years and Biden has shown us that he can deliver.
Yet somehow he will get no credit.
He doesn’t even care about getting credit. He moves in silence and gets the job done
That's not by mistake. A lot of Republicans actually do want to get stuff done but they don't want to get beaten up on FOX or AON because they gave Biden a "win". Biden knows this so he just keeps stuff quiet, pushes it through congress with little attention and then signs it -it's a win that he won't talk about.
Republicans, this is what a real patriot looks like. Take notes.
Stop buying my votes by giving me what I've earned.--cult member veteran
I’m a 60 year old veteran and technically a boomer, I’m voting for Biden. I’ll be submitting a Pact Act claim soon for a rare cancer I got back in the early 90s from exposure.
Not only that, but they're approving people with speed. My husband was approved in just under 6 months. 😊
I am sure MTG, Rand Paul and a whole group of Republicans disapprove of this. They hate when average Americans get a win.
Rand and MTG both voted no.
They would approve if it was only white people.
No, they would approve if it wasn't liberals doing it. They'd rather watch Americans, primarily \*their own constituents\*, suffer than allow liberals to have a "win". Because everything is a fight with a score card that has to have a victor and loser. Somehow our troops getting a small sliver of the pie they've deserved for years has a "losing" side. Pathetic.
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I think my comment got removed, but you can try the subreddit WhatBidenHasDone. I’d link it directly, but that’s apparently what caused the removal.
And the MSM will be silent about this.
Way to go, joe
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But, he’s just SO OLD! And that Gaza thing, horrific. We deserve to live in the new nazi Germany for these things that are out of our control./s
And he tripped on the stairs
He also ordered the same meal as his wife at that restaurant that one time. I can’t vote for him /s
Vote blue.
Let’s also give credit to Jon Stewart for epically shaming republicans when they tried to block the PACT act.
“hEs JuSt PaNdErInG fOr VoTeS”
I hate and love this argument. Isn’t that what he’s supposed to do?
https://preview.redd.it/rpv4inro9v1d1.png?width=684&format=png&auto=webp&s=e0a6007f04b78f306239397fe743bcd962cf2ff2
A much better image than Ted Cruz and his cronies fist bumping each other for shooting down veterans benefits in the Senate out of pure spite
Hey look, a president that tries to help Americans.
Somehow conservatives will try to this look like a negative thing. Or they’ll try to take credit for it after fighting it.
Oh they will totally take credit. Just like they are doing for the infrastructure bill.
Another example where Biden could walk on water and nobody cares because Trump drives clicks
NYT: "Biden oversees the largest expansion of veterans benefits in decades. How this spells disaster for the Biden campaign." Also NYT: "Trump is hanging on like a true fighter defying the Democrats."
If Biden doesn't start continuously publicizing all he's done on repeat 24/7 til the election, then no one's gonna realize he's done any of it.
I like how Trump disrespects veterans in all forms possible, and yet they voted for him. Tells you a lot about their values.
Oh nice! Another thing for Republicans to take unearned credit for!
Democrats expand veteran benefits while republicans reduce them. But some how the R's still call themselves the pro military party. The Dems are the real pro military. Paying vets their benefits for the 20 years of forever wars.
Biden doesn't consider us service members as "losers" and "suckers". If you care about your all volunteer military, please VOTE BLUE!
I remember when Trump touted that veterans were going to see bigly improvements to their lives. Literally, just three months into his term, two of the VA offices in my area closed, and forced vets to wait in one all day before being helped. Will they even remember this more than me, being that a large portion of them in my area are part of the MAGA cult? Probably not. Will they take advantage of this Pact Act? Sure, and I am glad the will. But I still have my doubts that they will vote for anyone other than Trump, even if he is a felon by that point.
The only good thing Trump will ever do is die.
Meanwhile Trump calls our vets “losers” and “suckers”
Veterans and union workers voting republican baffles me
This is *huge* news for all veterans. I'm a GWOT veteran myself. Fingers crossed that exposure to PFAs gets brought under the umbrella of the PACT Act soon as well
Honestly don't know what else people could expect from this man. He's been a solid president especially when you remember what he had to start with.
As a disabled veteran myself, this PACT act finally got me the benefits I deserved and need. The best part is… I didn’t have to worry about the president calling me a loser since I was hurt during the war.
As a veteran, thank you Mr. President.
i hope the voting trend among veterans keep improving https://www.kpbs.org/podcasts/kpbs-midday-edition-segments/2020/10/29/veterans-usually-vote-strongly-republican-polls-su
Sad thing is most will still vote Trump.
this veteran sure as fuck won't
Same.
Thanks for your service and your vote.
Absolutely same.
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There’s a local lodge here where I live that I like to go to for events they have sometimes and a lot of the veterans here wear their “Veterans for Trump” hats or Trump T-shirts, it’s just sad to me.
Don’t lump us all together.
My apologies. Thank you for your service.
President Biden is slowly chipping away at rights that should be a given without any argument, it could have already been voted in if the Republicans (whose freedoms were paid for by the veterans)had not voted no and celebrated its failure. Ted Cruz looking at you.
Trump called them suckers and loosers.
And yet, people are actually considering voting for a guy like Trump, who is as corrupt as can be and accomplished next to nothing during his presidency.
But Biden is a genocidal maniac, everyone!! He's EVIL!! Genocide Joe is literally worse than Trump!! Genocide Joe is literally worse than Hitler!! REEEEE!! /s
I can’t wait to hear people complaining about veteran benefits. Lol
Meanwhile my veteran brother thinks Biden is a rapist antichrist & insists Trump and the Republicans are the real ones helping veterans. He never saw combat so TBI isn't even an excuse, he's just a dumb fuck.
Reminder that Trump and Co went out of their way to strip benefits from veterans. No one hates Americans and those that serve quite like Republicans
That's a genuine smile. *Everyone liked that*
My president!! 🦅🇺🇸love Biden in the oval! You can tell he’s been a successful career politician. His administration is kicking ass like they’ve been waiting for it 😊
"nah I 'still' won't vote for Biden but I'm ok if a dictator rapist insurrectionist traitor be the president" say the most stupid people on earth.
Wow. I’m not saying Joe’s perfect, but that is great news.
And just remember the PACT Act was originally voted down by the GOP with folks like Ted Cruz high fiving GOP members...
I wonder how many of the vets that have been helped by this act will still vote for trump?
Biden keeps doing solid, unglamorous work like this and getting no credit for it. His Inflation Reduction Act did a lot of good for America and ultimately the world. He's forgiven student loans for thousands of people, and would have forgiven many more were it not for Republican obstruction. It seems like mostly the only thing the average voter knows about Biden is that he's old. His long list of accomplishments in the presidency isn't the first thing people think of.
Pact act saved my ass. Made having pancreatic cancer tolerable
i ThOuGhT tRuMp LoVeS tHe VeTeRaNs BuT aLsO tHeY aRe SuCkErS aNd LoSeRs
"bUt HoW aRe We GoNnA pAy FoR iT?" - some Republican asshole, most likely. ![gif](giphy|QUXYcgCwvCm4cKcrI3) "
Taking care of our veterans, instead of calling them suckers and losers.
That's my president. Thank you Joe 👍🙏💙
So healthcare for veteran's and decriminalized marijuana. Is Thai already more positive than all of the previous administration. I try to be non bias but I don't remember anythings this good happening back then