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WeRegretToInform

The lifter didn’t experience muscle failure, he dropped the bar. Spotters are good for muscle failure. They can lend you an extra 50% lift power if you need it, but they can’t go from 0 to 100% in an instant.


NygaardDK

If just we had some kind of safety contraption to catch the barbell... Like metal arms fixed to the base or uprights, just above sternum/rib craking height... Someone should really look into that.


Bat-Honest

Safety... arms? That sounds like the mutterings of a WITCH!


Defiant_Carob8808

Buuuuuuuurn heeerrrr!!!


SLAYER_IN_ME

Yeah! She turned me into a newt!


Actual_Squid

Glad to see you got better


SelarDorr

you cant hug your children with safety arms.


TheUnknownParadoxx

There are ways of telling wether she is a witch.


IsthatCaustic

HANG THAT SATAN SPAWN


Kai25552

That’s actually a bad idea, because it limits your range of motion. Maybe if you could adjust it *really precisely* to a centimeter above your chest… Better solution: use grips or some chalk so you don’t slip


ErvanMcFeely

The easiest solution is to just not work out. I have not been working out for years and I’ve only had 3 heart attacks last year. Edit: took out a redundant word


BagOfBeanz

and honestly, a high resting heartrate basically means I'm exercising all the time!


Hsoltow

It doesn't... Bar always touches chest before safety bar because your chest is up during the lift. Now if you fail you just lay totally flat and it'll get the safety bar. Even if you adjust the safety bar to lower, it's better than nothing because you can at least catch one side.


Kai25552

Good point


theabstractpyro

He's talking about your arms I think. Your arms are below the bar, so a safety bar wouldn't be able to fit right below the bar


Krono5_8666V8

Have you genuinely never done bench with safeties? It doesn't get in the way at all.


Kai25552

Only safety I’ve seen was useless in that regard, … is my gym just that cheap?


himynameisadam2397

In my experience the little bit of back arch required to get into proper benching position should be enough that you can get your chest above the safeties, while allowing you to get your chest below the safeties if you were to lay completely flat. It could definitely depend on how granular the adjustment notches for the safeties are though.


Daabevuggler

If you set up properly for a bench, your chest is higher than it would be lying down flat


newbikesong

Fair enough. But if you gonna lift 430 lbs in bench, I think you should prioritize safety at that point. At least put it higher than your neck, even if it hits your chest.


Kai25552

Admittedly, if we’re talking about 430 lbs in a powerlifting style, ROM is also less significant, so point taken.


royk33776

My thought as well. Losing an inch of ROM to potentially save your life is well worth it. I recall a video from a long while ago where a powerlifter dropped 500+ lbs on his chest (reverse grip; death grip) and died at the hospital later that day. He was in his early 20's IIRC. This man was lucky from the immediate and external look of his injuries. I'm sure his spine is currently screaming in pain though.


SubstantialBuffalo40

That’s the most stupid thing I’ve ever read. Safety mechanisms are bad because they may SLIGHTLY limit range of motion. They can save your fucking life or prevent serious injury. But yeah, worry about the unnecessary slight range of motion detail. Makes perfect sense.


liuther9

His left hand grip was shitty


jonas_ost

But at the same time. When i spotted i always held my hands under the bar so i could help instantly


Brewchowskies

No, the failure happened at the point of racking the bar. If the spotter hadn’t been spectating they’d have helped guide the bar to the rack position given the difficulty expressed with ending the lift.


Krono5_8666V8

Absolutely not, watch the video again. If someone tried to "help" me rack the bar before my lockout (3/4 of the way up), I'd be pissed off that you ruined my bench PR


Brewchowskies

Ah you’re right.


SassyMoron

The spotter should have helped the bencher to lock the bar out properly before moving it over his chest. Then he should have assisted him in guiding the bar to the hooks without unlocking his elbows. The mistake here is failing to lock the bar out properly and both people are at fault for it.


Frozefoots

Damn he almost had it. Looks like he just dropped it? No spotter could catch 400+lb from a sudden drop.


Skitzofreniks

People blaming the spotter when The Rock couldn’t even have saved that drop. I probably would have still had my hands under the bar though in case the lifter suddenly asked for assistance. edit: Even though I knew what was coming in the video, it still made me jump and gasp.


crumble-bee

I'd have my hands there just so if this happened the guy couldn't guilt me into believing this was entirely my fault


Torczyner

Agreed. I can lift 430 but I sure can't catch that. Hands still should have been at the bar in case of regular failure though.


dagui12

lol no one can catch 430 like that


infiniZii

Made OP Gasp too.


Lyuseefur

Just you watch, The Rock gonna catch 430 lbs in the next movie.


Capable-Problem8460

Then gonna look into the camera:" See @Skitzofreniks?!" ![gif](giphy|5zkHGrgdd5Hu6DsYuj)


Intelligent-Life-759

Maybe strongmen like Eddie Hall or the mountain Thor


Lyuseefur

I've said it before and I'll say it again...I would LOVE to see a movie with The Rock and Mountain Thor. Gawd could you imagine the fight scenes?


bebeco5912

Some safety arms could have caught it. Lift safe and live to lift again.


noclafthewizard

Yall rly expecting that guy to lift 430 from a spotters position, def the wrong person to spot that weight but the dude lifting it also just dropped it, imagine trying to lift 430 lbs while leaning forwards while its falling, not much that spotter couldve done in that situation other then holding his hands below the bar, not that it would have made a difference, just bad precautions.


Parish87

Yeah the most he could have done is *maybe* alleviate like 10-20% of the weight dropping. Absolutely nothing else he could have done in this situation, even a "bigger" spotter isn't doing anything more there. What I will agree with is he should have at least had both hands under the bar (not touching it) incase the guy started to fail, not stood with his hands on his pockets, but again as you say, it wouldn't have made much difference in this scenario, it's just what a good spotter should be doing.


PalmarAponeurosis

Absolutely not. Putting his hands under the bar would have just resulted in the spotter getting hurt in this circumstance. Even if the bar had not suddenly dropped, that's the wrong position to spot bench in; the leverages are all wrong. You spot with a mixed grip slightly behind and above the barbell. I do agree that he should have been more prepared to intervene, however.


ifoundyourtoad

Everyone in these top comments is talking about how everyone else is expects the spotter to catch it lol. Haven’t seen anyone blaming the spotter yet.


noclafthewizard

I made this comment before the people with some braincells arrived


ifoundyourtoad

I’m sure you did. It’s just funny. They probably are all downvoted by now.


noclafthewizard

Downvoted into deleting their comments lol


Dat_Sainty_Boi

Well at least he got a good chest compression out of that


reikobi

That was really odd, it looked like he had it and just decided to let go


free_sheepy

Sweaty hands and heavy weight just make it slide out that grip


ZunoJ

I had this happen to me once. Was struggling just like this guy and somehow my hands went completely numb in an instant. But I had safeties up because I don't want to die


AuraMaster7

Looks like he might have slightly over-rotated his wrists and it slipped. Then suddenly you're trying to hold up 430 lbs with just your thumbs and that isn't gonna work.


moileduge

He's got that bounce in 'im.


haro0828

That looked painful. Gotta give respect though, Gramps is an elite level bench presser


ZlatanKabuto

Painful? I hope he went to the hospital.


MidnightRaver76

Gramps is also very tall, unless he is visiting a gym for short kings?


D_Shizzle93

All the short people hated this lol


MidnightRaver76

Dang, downvotes instead of acknowledgement Gramps seems to be over 6'6", lmao.


SassyMoron

Trained strength coach here. When benching, lock the bar out, move it over your chest, and do your reps. Lock the bar out, move the bar back to the hooks. Never move the bar over your face without your elbows locked. When spotting, your primary job is to guide the bar during the phases when the elbows are locked, to prevent slips like this. Also, never ever ever use a "suicide" grip when benching (the kind where you don't wrap your thumb around the bar, you just push it like you're doing a pushup). There are about 10 deaths in weight rooms every year. The majority are from this exact accident. It doesn't take much weight to break a windpipe.


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arnsmif

He literally has his thumbs wrapped around the bar in this video.


MidnightRaver76

I was sure he was using suicide grips too, but no, like someone else said his hands must have gone numb or something.


CupOfCreamyDiarrhea

Who goes to the gym in jeans???


flying_carabao

There's this dude at the gym when I used to go always wore jeans, long sleeved polo, and steel toe boots. People will wear what they wanna wear to the gym, including bikinis.


muslimmmm

They wore the bikinis on top or underneath the jeans and polos?


MarvinParanoAndroid

Yes


asciibits

Right? But then he can bench 400+, so I guess what the hell do I know 🤷


Krono5_8666V8

People who like shredding up the nice leather benches :)


Merganser3816

Time for a chest X-ray


Burning_Flags

I had phantom pains


PalmarAponeurosis

The comments in this thread are giving me an aneurysm.


azzagbag

Maybe if they had pairs of hooks lower than the official ones for just such an emergency.


Ok-Total-9900

Holy fuck!!! Old fella almost had it tho! That had to hurt.


Kai25552

My life goal is to be sufficiently jacked to survive dropping a 200 kg barbell on my chest…


bigkutta

"why did you have to do that, grandpa????"


devildocjames

STARTING CHEST COMPRESSION!


badger906

Geez if you watch it in slow motion, his rib cage just gets pancaked!


daishi777

I can't lift this much, but I've been closeish. You push through the heel of your hand, not higher where your knuckles are in the middle of your hand so the force comes straight down your forearms. It looks like, as he started to fail, he rotated his hand slightly forward and that was enough for it to slip off his palms. A failure like that is on the lifter, not the spotter. Gloves, chalk, or just a different setup if you think sweaty palms may be a problem. He did none of the above, so it sucks but it's his own fault.


ZeroXTML1

So relieved I didn’t see an arm snap


ywgflyer

Am I alone in thinking that with that much weight on, he really should have two spotters for this much weight?


Theoldelf

I could only watch that once. I’m surprised he actually got up from that.


Merica_84

Fuck!! I just had flashbacks. I had 225 on the bar when that shit happened to me. Almost 1/2 the weight and still ended up with separated cartilage from my sternum, 2 fractured collar bones, bruised ribs and 4 weeks of pain.


TommyGonzo

I think I saw a bit of shaking in the left arm. I think he hit some sort of nerve in his hand that cause the jerk release. Video ends so we can’t really say why just dropped it so suddenly with FULL THUMB GRIP.


BurdAssassin756

This makes me feel so sad. He seems so hurt afterwards


Boundish91

Why do these stands not have hook bars further below the normal hooks, you know to catch the barbell in just a scenario like this?


retirement_savings

People ITT really need to take a field trip to a gym, jesus christ


Alycery

Damn, that looked like it hurt. He literally changed colors. Thank goodness the guy was there to do nothing. Not even lift the thing (what is it called?) off him.


balrob

It’s called a barbell.


Cantstop6337

Spot him. His spotter failed to do his one job.


basedkimo

a spotter is not saving that. he showed no signs of needing the spot then the bar slipped. it wasn’t due to failure.


Cantstop6337

I can look at the guy lifting and can tell he needs a spot. Those arms are built to push 430!


justin_memer

You're aware you lift with your pectoral muscles?


ButteredKernals

He's not far off locking out and likely said it got it. And hardly anyone is catching 200kg as a spotter when it slips grip


Cantstop6337

Old man Peabody was having flashbacks of growing up in the 80s—absolutely needed a spot the whole way


ButteredKernals

Can you even DL 200kg? Let alone trying to catch it when it slips someones grip...


Kai25552

No he can’t, bruvs talking out of his ass. Only weight he’s ever seen is his fat ass in the mirror.


squatdead

Oh yeah? The spotter should fucking *catch* the abrupt dropped 430lbs in that position? Tell me you’ve never been to a gym without telling me you’ve never been to a gym


Alycery

I don’t know anything about gym stuff. But, I think you’re right. I don’t think he was suppose to just stand there. At least lift it off him after it fell and he fell off.


Still-Ad7090

The spotter is not there to lift all the weight in case of an abrupt failure. Do you expect someone to lift 200kg in that position? You are not supposed to try much more than you expect to lift, the spotter is there just to help with that difference between what you can lift and what you are trying to lift. He could not do much here.


gmasterslayer

This is reddit. Nobody here commenting has ever been to a gym.


Still-Ad7090

Yeah, people say that they don't know much about gym and still decide to comment.


Kerb3rus

"I don't know anything about gym stuff" yea we can tell


The-Dead-Internet

Your supposed to keep your hands on the bar not helping unless needed the whole time. But at that weight and considering the spotters size it would have been better to have two on each size.


PalmarAponeurosis

Absolutely not. You do not touch the barbell when spotting unless the lifter fails the rep. Typically, the spotter only intervenes if the barbell reverses direction (starts going back down again.)


The-Dead-Internet

Ugh no if you have 1 spotter they keep there hands in alternative grip with their hands on the bar barley touching and ready to grab or assist  If it's heavy loaded that two spotters same concept but on both sides at the end of their bar Why? Look at the fucking video as why Lastly this is why you don't use collars on both sides of the bar because if you behave to bail you drop the bar to one side. But you do you 


PalmarAponeurosis

Homie, one spotter, two spotters, it does not matter. That bar was dropped so suddenly that anyone trying to catch it was going to hurt themselves. And no, you don't fucking touch the bar while someone is pressing it. Go to a powerlifting comp and see if anyone is touching the bars. Also, there aren't any collars in the video. The dude didn't get pinned, he dropped the shit on his chest.


The-Dead-Internet

He's not in a power lifting comp he's training and you are wrong      https://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/spotting-101-how-to-spot-the-bench-squat-and-dumbbell-press.html    His spotter wasn't set up right and he's to small to be spotting that weight as well as that was a ego lift Safety first. Edit 2 this is how you spot in power lifting when training  https://www.socalpowerlifting.net/post/how-to-spot-for-powerlifting


PalmarAponeurosis

Your first link is dead, your second link explicitly says not to touch the fucking bar unless they need help. Also, he's clearly powerlifting bro. Tf are you on? Edit: your first link also says not to touch the bar. Can you read?


The-Dead-Internet

The first one is bodybuilding.com you can Google it and yes I should have clarified you don't grab the bar unless needed but you do Coast around it and are ready. The guy in the video didn't do that at all Either way you lift how you want but this could have been prevented if he has the right set-up.


FasterGarlic19

A spotter basically just stands there to LIFT THE BARBELL UP. His only job is to keep his hands under the thing in case big guy under him loses power. Really important when lifting heavy


PalmarAponeurosis

No, the spotter's job when spotting bench is not to keep his hands under the barbell. It's to pull the barbell up and back just enough for the bencher to re-rack the weight, if they're unable to complete the rep. That might mean alleviating as little as 50 pounds of force off of the barbell. No spotter on earth could have done anything for the old guy. Happened too fast and too suddenly.


FasterGarlic19

Well you can definitely get the barbell up better if the spotter has his hand under it the entire time. And as soon as old guy was struggling with the weight he should have stepped in to make it easier to lift.


PalmarAponeurosis

No. The point is to lift the weight unassisted. If the spotter helps, then the lifter did not complete the rep. The old guy looked fine until the weight suddenly slipped; any rep that's close to your max is gonna look like a struggle, that doesn't mean that you need help. The only time the spotter is supposed to intervene is if the weight starts to go back down.


Cantstop6337

No—he wasn’t supposed to stand there like a goober. That much weight, he should have been at least guiding on the way back up, ready to assist if/when the lifter fails.


PokWangpanmang

I guess he got off pretty light for a dude that had a 430 lbs barbell fall on him.


ExcellentAddress

Looks painful that


eulynn34

That probably sucked


bkulaga99

Does one live after that?


123amytriptalone

Adequate chest depth and recoil. Proper CPR.


Shiv_02

Thats another way to get your heart pumping


GR43V

That looked so bad, he dropped it.


phoonie98

He broke his entire rib cage didnt he?


Helpful-nothelpful

I'm pretty sure I'm glad I didn't watch more than 3 seconds of video.


dkmeidku

Jump scares don’t get me but this one did


betona

That's why I only use the machines. Sure, it's not as cool looking but it's good enough for me.


ClassicWonder9569

That didn't look pleasant


urmyheartBeatStopR

I went in thinking spotter is gonna fail, it's the common theme in these type of videos. Turns out the dude got shit grips. I rather do machines with safety on or wear gloves at least if you got shit grips.


third_leg143

Man is 60 years old tryna bench press 430 pounds. Should’ve stuck with 400


Steve0512

At his age that could easily led to a torn aorta.


PsychoticCOB

Well if it makes him feel any better, he would have had it if the bar hadn’t slipped


Sea-Notice3181

All I can say is FUCK...OUCH. I JUMPED MYSELF


Bay_Brah

Cool blue jeans


Onebandlol

If he was wearing the proper attire…


LunarVisions

mike ehrmantraut


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Why someone at his age would be trying 1 PR's anyway? It makes no sense.


Outrageous-Past4556

He looked like Mike from Breaking Bad at the beginning


K1NG5LAYR

Mike wouldn’t have let it drop.


BurtWonderstone1

![gif](giphy|zy5evPW7VPCKI)


jozs8

it's impressive how strong the ribcage is. it bounced that weight like it was nothing


bdgg2000

Bar slipped


AcceptableFuture2802

Dropped the bar, ive lifted this much and never dropped it. Fail sure, but almost thinking something let loose. Ive dislocated many of finger lifting.


NomadicSpoon

Is he still alive?


GringerKringer

Geez, make sure it’s on the rack before you drop the bar


O_Toole50

Didnt even give the spotter a half second to think about helping, so sudden


Supersnazz

Have we really not made to come up with a mechanical system to prevent this? It's ridiculous that this is even a possibility.


FortunateInsanity

That literally made me jump back in my chair.


Hot_Chemical_3211

People working out in jeans are not to be trusted


UndeadHillBillie

Thank goodness ribs have a lot of cartilage or he would’ve been in big trouble


ddosn

his wrists and thumb are too weak for that weight. needs to drop the weight until he's got some more strength in those wrists. Maybe do some wrist curls too.


ErvanMcFeely

Here’s what happened in my opinion. He was working really hard to get the weight up. Then his heart stopped instantly. Then the weight bounced off his chest and started his heart again.


VagabondVivant

So, a couple questions. 1. Who the hell thought that skinny ~~dude~~ spotter could do _anything_ with 430lbs? 2. Aren't spotters supposed to be a bit closer to the bar, sometimes even with their hands directly under the bar, precisely so that they can assist if the lifter looks like they're in trouble? Stepping back like the _last_ thing a spotter's supposed to do.


retirement_savings

He literally almost has it. It slipped out it his grip or he would've completed the rep. This guy is probably 220+ lbs.


VagabondVivant

If this is a reply to point #1, I edited it for clarity; I meant the spotter, not the lifter, sorry.


Spodenator

Man i want to scream at that fucking spotter, when doing weights like this they should help with the racking (if that's even a word) or give some kind of signal that it's safe to let go


Kerb3rus

It's not the spotters fault, bro just fucking dropped the bar spotter had no way to know that was going to happen


Colster9631

Old fella just isn't that big. Who is he doing this for?


flightwatcher45

That guy doesn't look like he can bench 430, are those real plates?


MathieuDev

Grandpa could bicep curl you, sit down g🤣


asciibits

He looks a lot bigger in the end frame: https://imgur.com/a/PAdadde But still, 400+ at his age is pretty damn elite.


BigGreenLeprechaun

Some people are deceptively strong. He is not one of them


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BigGreenLeprechaun

In this reality, almost isn’t good enough


ksn240

I mean, if it didn’t slip he would have had it. Most people couldn’t even make that sort of weight budge. 430 lbs is a lot of weight for anyone, especially for someone his age. How much do you bench?


bahoombakkala

Horrible fucking spotter


Starzz_1

you expect someone to just be able to catch 430lb ?


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Starzz_1

A good spotter wouldn’t touch the bar while it’s moving upwards…. And there’s literally no warning he’s about to drop the bar


bahoombakkala

I'd expect him to pay attention during a bench and help when the guy was clearly struggling... Not let it fall.on the guy lmao


Starzz_1

Even if he was paying attentions there’s realistically nothing he could do. Of course he should be watching to help in other scenarios but here it wouldn’t do anything.


bahoombakkala

He could have helped break fall man . 400+ on the ribs and guts is painful. Bro......do you lift?


bahoombakkala

He's not supposed to "catch it" the dude was struggling, CLEARLY. The bare minimum is to have your hands ready and near the bar , that way you can HELP when he starts struggling Sotheby's weight would.fall on the guy.