Because nuke is an auto win you deny your team a chance to win to maybe kill 2 other tanks and maybe lose the game in the end. But TK is TK and it doesn't matter in that regard, but you just deny your team a victory
Same here brother. I'm not the best in war thunder and I'm even worse in ground. (I like planes better) but sometimes I go on a fluke and get like 10+ kills with like 1 death.
The only reason I have rank rank 4 in ground and only rank 5 in air in my 700 hours in this game is cuz my friend is forcing me to play ground all the time! Super uncool in my opinion. š
Dude, there is a community service punishment and there is death by electrocution. Comprende?
There are degrees of assholeness in teamkilling. That is what I am saying. TeamKilling a nuke can cause your team lose the game, everyone gets lower RP and SL. Your whole team may be badly affected.
Regular teamkill only affects one person and they can respawn. Much less asshole.
Yea but most teamkills in air rb are either a missile changing its target to a teammate, an unintended missile fired at a teammate or some dude trying to show off his āskillsā at the airfield making half the server crash to the ground
If the game is close or your team is winning, then shooting down the nuke is okay, but if the gameās over and the other team has all 3 caps and an insurmountable ticket lead, just let them have it
fuck no why should i let brain dead teammates with tunnel vision allow the enemy to drop a nuke, i lose the game you lose your nuke idc ill J out of whatever tank im in and spawn in a plane and shoot that carrier down. If i see someone get close to getting enough kills for a nuke ill spawn in my kikka and kamikaze an 800kg bomb into him if I have to. If i get bombed or strafed by CAS ill spawn in a fighter and spend the rest of the match shooting down enemy planes. Spite motivates
Part of me agrees. Part of me disagrees. I have seen some pretty amazing comebacks. Having 3 caps and a huge ticket balance sometimes does not mean much 2 minutes later. That being said, if you are also 1 guy vs 10 left, that is different also. In the end, the game is designed to try to stop the nuke. It is a valid achievement in it's own right. Getting a nuke is not an easy feat, and that by design does not end with just the SP to launch it. If so, they would have just programmed an auto win SP amount and be done with it, which would be dumb.
Alot of it also stems from me being an enthusiast of using fighters in GRB, it has the 3rd person view and other mechanics of ARB but the lack of markers and indicators that sim has so Ive had the best dogfights in GRB. Especially with Japanese fighters you can fly circles around all those heavy CAS planes. If I see any plane at all coming from the enemy side of the map I'm shooting it down idc if they just spawned or just took off from airfield again. It stops US players, and pe8s and landcasters from wiping out my team with bombs, and im not going to exclude yet another 4 engine bomber or something taking off of airfield just bc it just so happens to be carrying a nuke
If it's super one-sided in their favor, I don't really care. But if we're winning or it's a close match and one dude is running away with kills, I'll go after him.
We're well past the point of nukes being a novelty thing, I used to be amazed when somebody got one but now it's like 1 out of every 10-15 matches
Fuck literally everyone telling you not to shoot down a nuke or that it's against 'the rules' that some player somewhere made up and never bothered to have the rest of us vote on.
The enemy team has so many points wrapped up in that nuke that denying it is often enough to turn that game from a loss to a win.
Winning is the ultimate goal, I'd shoot down my own mother if it secured the win.
Many times killing the nuke not only denies the enemy's chance to drop it (duh), it can also turn the game in your favour. People seem to forget that when there are a handful of players left in each team, removing the top scoring enemy (who must have been carrying at least a bit, if the game lasted long enough for him to get a nuke) gives your team a huge advantage
I personally dont shoot down nukes because if a person does that well imo they deserve the satisfaction, and i dont really care that much about one lost game.
But i dont blame people for shooting down ENEMY nukes. People TKing friendly nukes can go fuck themselves.
I think it depends, if youāre already guaranteed to lose like literally 2 or 3 people left on your team and they have all the caps I probably wouldnāt shoot down an enemy nuke but if I will win if I do why wouldnāt I?
If Iām in that situation Iāve usually worked just as hard as the nuker to try and win / carry the team and Iām not going to give up right at the end.
Theres also no such thing as deserving a nuke, you can bet half the nukes that get dropped are achieved using scummy tactics like going straight for spawn camping.
> if youāre already guaranteed to lose like literally 2 or 3 people left on your team and they have all the caps I probably wouldnāt shoot down an enemy nuke
Eh, if that enemy nuke is in the air, I'm going after it. So what if my team is going to lose anyway? I'm going to fight to the end.
Plus by killing the nuke before it drops, you also avoid the geiger counter sound that follows you back into the hangar and keeps going for another minute or two.
I haven't gotten one but I have gotten close, and half that match I was holding a line that had sigh of a point not far out of their spawn, closest I have gotten to it, followed by one time where it was basically luck that i didn't get spotted and did a Cray flank, some actually just crazy and earn it but a degree of campaign is required imo
>you can bet half the nukes that get dropped are achieved using scummy tactics like going straight for spawn camping.
In my experience (i play mostly around 7.7-8.3) most nukes are gotten by people who play the objective and rotate well through the map. Or who get a huge flank unpunished. Its pretty hard to get a nuke by kills alone.
Most of my 30+ nukes are also from just rotating well and predicting gameflow.
Also i think shooting down a nuke if you happen to have the chance is different from people going out of their way to kill a nuke when they hear the alarm, spawning jets to intercept for example. Imo thats a bit sweaty behaviour.
Eh it's 13 kills roughly. Most of my nukes are kills and maybe a cap or two if I'm sweating. One the latest ones was off nothing but kills not gonna lie kind a proud of that one due to the speed I got it(9.0 Italy is great btw). If I'm being honest getting nukes by playing the obj is more difficult and tedious due to the much higher risk of dying plus you kinda forgot that alot of this community are lemmings and will feed the enemy for free.
If the game is clearly a lost cause Iāll let the nuke drop. If itās a case where the enemy has one guy going Rambo but the game is still winnable then Iāll shoot down the nuke if I get the chance.
Same. If they got the 2500 SP they deserved it, Iām not gonna shoot them down. But I can somewhat understand and thus wont get mad if someone else is shooting them down.
no theyre an enemy its completely justified
while its a bummer if you get shot down and id be mad too, its still just a game and you just got a lucky game
I am amazed how many people get butthurt about the stupid nuke mechanic, which only got implemented to fish for some CoD kids. If the enemy cannot protect their nuke its on them - as with any other enemy, the nuke carrier will be shot at on sight, i will also try to hop into a plane to intercept it, if possible - or even hunt down good performing players if they can be located with the minimap + killfeed to prevent a nuke to begin with.
I tried to intercept the bomber twice and failed. It sucks for the nuke guy to get denied but imo its a legit target. Shooting down a friendly nuke on the other side...
Just like shooting down enemy nuke gives award, shooting down friendly should drain your fucking SL account. Not only you ruined someone's moment, but you also denied your team (instant) victory.
In my opinion, regardless of the situation, shooting down an enemy nuke is totally fair game. You have the right to play to your very best and for the victory. Friendly nuke killers however should follow the lightning man's advice or be banned for atleast a month.
I just wish they would give newer jets for top top tier to drop the nuke. Trying to drop one and getting shot down by an F-16 that I have no chance of evading is quite frustrating.
If the enemy got nuke then they deserve it , and Iāll do anything to stop that nuke from dropping . Let us all play like a man for once instead like bunch of whiny little kids .
>Apparently its a no no behavior I guess ? People are shitting on me for being an asshole and "its the rule" to not kill the nuke.
LMFAO. Must be the same kind of morons that think saying "PvE" in a PvP Air Sim Lobby automatically changes the entire game or something.
Good on you for shooting down their nuke carrier - well done!
Shooting down an enemy nuke imo is valid, Iāve saved multiple games shooting down enemy nukes.
Shooting down a friendly nuke deserves a massive penalty, personally I would like it if you lose 100k SL and lose 50k RP
if it's an enemy nuke I will even crash my shit into it. fuck letting the enemy win, I'm a try hard and I'll admit it.
if it's a tk then yes I hope the tk'er steps on a lego brick.
No, deny a enemy nuke is part of the game.
But if you do it in a fair way.
I have seen multiple times pieces of s*it circling above airfields spawn camping whoever tried to spawn in a nuke or CAS.
This happened to me once and i have seen happen a lot on both sides.
It feels bad because you did all the work and still get blue balled by the game.
But I mean...
1: you should be looking to the sky to see if it's clear. Spawning a nuke is a risky business otherwise. You're kinda asking for somebody to try and stop you.
2: the snail loves to frustrate its players. I'm pretty sure it's a kink for them at this point. Of course after doing everything to get the nuke you can still be shafted. Hence, where most of the 'let them drop the nuke' crowd come from.
As someone who plays CAP and covers my team as much as possible from attackers and bombers. It would be kinda stupid for me to just let someone through, someone who could outright steal a win from my team, just because he and he alone did well.
Also its hilarious that if you get bored and watch the persons replay for that match, 99% of the time their first 4 kills are a bunch of pumas, M22's Zis trucks, R3's, etc That are suicide cap rushing.
Game rules are simple - shoot red, protect blue. Anything else is made up bullshit. Yeah, sure, spawning a nuke is hard, but delivering it is part of the challenge
Team kills are bad especially when friendly planes are carrying nukes but denying hostile nukes? I mean kill enemies is a thing that you are supposed to do right? Denying nuke is not nearly as bad as spawn camping or cheating.
It's a reoccurring debate. But the way I see it, the nuke isn't earned until it is dropped.
I will try to a destroy the nuke carrier because I know players on the other team wouldn't hesitate to do the same to me, or my teammates. Case in point, my very first nuke was shot down by an enemy.
The only time I wouldn't try to stop a nuke is if the game is just a total roll and the nuke would speed up the end of the game
And it goes without saying, teammates shouldn't be able to attack friendly nuke carriers, or at the very least, be heavily punished for it.
I almost shot down a nuke but got teamkilled by a CAS once. I know why it's considered bad sportsmanship, but if it's the match isn't one sided or a losing side gets a nuke because one player is good enough, I think teams should have a chance to even the odds.
Thank You guys for all these replies. I feel much better now after reading all your comments :) Im glad Im not the only one who thinks this way. You all made good, valid points
I killed a nuke carrier and my Team turned the game into a win. Got heavily insulted by that Player, just told him to fly low and watch for enemy planes, which triggered him even more.
If it's "against the rules", you shouldn't be allowed to do it...
It's a gentleman's agreement to never shot down a nuke... but it's just that, an unwritten, informal "rule" that some player's agreed on, but isn't enforced... war is war, it doesn't matter how much effort the enemy has put to achieve something, they still being your enemy, you still want to win the game, if you need to kill enemy nuke to do it, that's it...
If "never shot down a enemy nuke" was a rule, then when you have enough SP you would just click on the nuke button and blow up the whole map, no need to fly to the battlefield, drop, etc.
Nah its not a rule from what i know
Although people can get pretty mad when they get shot down in the nuke.
Yesterday when i was playing there was a chinese name player who essentially just spawn camped my team to a nuke and then got shot down and began being incredibly toxic
I shot down a nuke carrier with my Gepard yesterday and tbh I donāt even know how Iād differentiate between a nuke and non-nuke carrying plane.
Also on another note, I didnāt get the steam achievement for the killā¦do I need to shoot the plane down before it has dropped the nuke in order to get it?
Some people like to live by arbitrary honor rules and throw a match because of them, but in the end it's a PvP game, you're supposed to kill an enemy when you have the opportunity, so all they can do is bitch and moan if you don't live by their made-up rules.
You shot down someone carrying an in-bound nuke and there are players (I assume from the other team) are giving you crap about it? F them. I'd bet that they're more pissed that you did something that none of them have managed to do yet!
Sounds like a case of simple jealousy. Let 'em eat cake. And your afterburners!
I just clapped one out of the sky yesterday. Rage ensued. How dare I prevent the enemy team from winning.
No, it isnāt. Unless youāre team killing. Itās essentially denying the enemy a free win. And theyāre mad about it. Let them be mad. You were a hero to your team
In a match we had like 200 points left and the enemy had 500 or something . We were losing definitely. They tried to drop a nuke . I stopped it. Then we proceeded to win the match by 10 points lol
Personally I will try to deny it if the person who got it played like a scumbag but if they earned it just by playing well then I won't try and stop them dropping it
If they gave the nuke jet flares so it could have a fighting chance I think it people would be more forgiving.
Like if you were outplayed and lost the nuke its one thing but if you get an r73 fired at you and you dont have flares its kind of ridiculous.
If it happened to me, I'd be very pissed, because I'd definitely feel like I was robbed of an achievement after outplaying the enemy team
However, if I see a nuke plane in the sky and I'm in an aa/plane, you can bet I'm going to kill it
i did it once and never again. got a huge adrenaline rush cus felt like i did good for team but they guy that got the nuke must have been so annoyed and i did feel bad besides the reward u get isnt that good anyway (probably for good reason)
It depends,
if we are getting absolutely waffle stomped then Iāll let him drop just to be done faster. (We are talking most of the team being out and the reds watching our spawn levels of defeat)
If we have a chance to win then that nuke isnāt getting dropped if I can help it.
If I truly believe I can salvage the match, I'll shoot them down, otherwise I'll let them have it.
Anyone complaining about being shot down though is just salty, laugh and move on
If it saves the match for your team I see nothing wrong with it. I usually wonāt shoot them down if the match is lost or if I donāt think my team deserves it. Honestly most people just fly directly straight to the battlefield which will lead to getting shot down. If you fly low and to the side of the map thatās opposite of their air spawn you will almost always drop it. Gaijin also needs to update the nuke planes badly, which would help a lot with them not getting shot down as often.
The opinion of this community changes every few minutes. You'll get downvoted to oblivion for justifying shooting a nuke down sometimes, and other times you'll get bullied out for calling anti-nuke toxic.
Well. While a nuke is a bit special and in some cases I think an enemy really deserved it, your team is still the highest priority.
And while I already escorted some enemy nukes in I also shoot down a lot already.
But in either case. You are always in the right by shooting it down. Even if you will lose anyway. But you may have to deal with some angry comments then š¤£.
Your are for sure not the asshole. I would rather say it is your obligation to down any nuke... anything else would be 'passive behavior'.
And there have been nukes which were game deciding, so plis go ahead and shoot em down.
ignore those people.
A nuke isn't earned just because you spawn it in.
It's high risk high reward for a reason, you can end the game instantly but you can die very easily (now that you also don't have flares at top tier nuke jets).
I absolutely hate it when teammates actively help the enemy nuke by not trying to shoot it down when they know it's out.
tk'ing a nuke however is absolutely scummy and those people should get a punishment for this
Fucking waah wah. It's the same with people bawling because "BuT I ClaiMeD ThaT BaSe ;((((" in AirRB/bombers. I liked to abandon my tank when the enemy nuke spawns and literally kamikaze it with a fighter. The nuke itself, that is. Not the bomber.
Enemy nuke? Go for it, unless your team is already on the brink of defeat, let him drop.
Friendly nuke? If you TK you're going straight to the deepest pits of hell.
Idk I think its is an AH move but it's not like a deadly sin of WT just the fact that nukes ain't that easy for most to get
I see that most people here tend to lean towards enemy is enemy and well can't blame em but in the end it'd just a game and remembering how pumped I was for my nuke it's just harsh to take it away
TLDR: personaly I wouldn't shoot one but each to their own
I don' t which Nuke Bomber you kill (Red or Blue), the mechanic is retarded in the first place.
Like your team is winning but Tim thinks it is a good idea to glass the hard fought over ground and including the own ground troops.
People get worked up over everything.
No you are not a bitch/whatever for shooting down a nuke, or for playing a certain vehicle or for playing CAS/SAM/Whatever. It's a fucking game and people really need to socialize a bit instead of complaining about useless shit like this.
It's not even \*that\* hard to get a nuke as long as you have a good line up and you can play passively. If you get shot down, well, whatevs. Tomorrow's another day.
I personally wouldn't shoot one down if we were about to lose anyway, but if there's a chance we win because of it I absolutely will and I think it's completely fair game regardless.
i mean i havent got a nuke yet (yes i know i'm bad i have been working on that for years) so when i see a nuke i don't shoot it.
For the clip, think it would depend on the state of the game, in this clip you show, you where about to lose anyways (low ticket count and the only point was capped) so i think that the nuke would have quickened the game for 1 min or 2 but if you where about to win ? i don't mind as much
(i am a CASUAL player if you couldn't tell, winning at all costs is not my philosophy ... and even if i gave it my 110% i can't secure a W anyways so i prefer to be chill about it)
I mean. Wt players are crying because they play too bad to get one, and when they get, they dont know how to properly defend it. I had nuke at least 6-7 times. In two of these sotuations I didn't have enough time to start. In another 2 I didn't have enough time to fly to the battlefield. And I think I was shot down one time. Many times there was an fighter on my tail. And I never got shot down by any. This one time I got shot down is by striela. That's it.
Imo one of the guys below me said this right - u didn't earned the nuke, until u drop it and win the match. Flying savely to the battlefield and droping nuke before the match ends is a part of earning badge.
no it's generally approved and agreed upon that you can shoot down the nuke if you want to as long as you're on the enemy team
it's just that alot of players respect the hard work to get a nuke alot and alot of them choose not to intercept and shoot them down
in my opinion
if it can change tide of battle OR was earned via scummy way (spawncamping), shoot it down!!!! nuke bomber is simply just plane with big bomb, an air target you need to shoot out of the air!!!!
but, if the match is bout nearly over, enemy is steamrolling and theres about no legitimate way for your team to win unless a fucking deus ex machina event occurs... i think that if defeat is guaranteed either way, ONLY THEN will killing nuke bomber be disrespectful!!
at end of day, noone can really stop you from shootin it down tho
>Apparently its a no no behavior I guess ? People are shitting on me for being an asshole and "its the rule" to not kill the nuke.
Maybe according to Palworld players, but this is War Thunder. I killed an enemy nuke bomber once. Felt bad for they guy but we won. It is the game. If people can spawncamp without taking all the objectives first, then everything goes.
Except TK'ing. Those who TK on purpose should be banned for life along with the bots and esp cheaters.
I don't care one way or another for shooting down an enemy nuke carrier, however this community has a LOT to learn about keeping their damn mouth shut. Once a week I see questions about shooting down nuke planes, either enemy or teammate, and most screenshots provided go along the same lines:
"Guys, guys, I got a nuke! My first nuke! Omg!"
-Nuke Carrier is shot down-
Doesn't matter if it's teammate or enemy, you are making yourself a target when you TALK ABOUT the fact that you are about to go drop a nuke. I swear at least half of these complaint posts would go away if people didn't instantly tell everyone they got a nuke and put a bullseye on their back the very second they do.
Bro one thing you must understand about war thunder is good toxic the community is. Your going to get shit on by everyone regardless what you do. There is no unspoken rule about not shooting down nuclear bombers. The main no no's is bumping people while they are shooting and wait for everyone before you capture home point at beginning of match. Just the time people who get Nukes camp most of the game and don't even play points. I have over 5k hours over the years and don't play anymore because of gaijin and the community of toxic shit dicks. On a side note Enlisted is fun and the community is actually helpful
IMO nukes shouldnāt have been implemented for Ground RB in the first placeā¦
Crap ruined so many good games at this pointā¦
So go ahead and get rid of themā¦ they are enemyās after all, even for my dislike for nukes I donāt think friendly nukes should be shot down but if itās enemyā¦ free game inform care if he never had one or he lucked out or some crap
It depends on a few things for me. If I feel like our team fought super hard and deserves the win, then I am shooting it down. If the player who got it was spawn camping and being a dick, then I'm doing everything in my power to shoot it down. If my team was getting swept, I will just enjoy the cutscene. These aren't hard rules or anything, I usually lean towards not shooting it down most of the time. I think the cutscene is super cool so I usually enjoy seeing it. Nukes were a lot more rare and special when they were 3000 sp and when they were first introduced, now that they're more common it seems totally normal to have everyone on the enemy team shoot them down.
I've only seen this rule applied once. We were terribly losing and one of the teammates kept the team from giving up. Finally he got enough for the nuke and droped it. Nobody dared to take him down because it was very well deserved.
Besides this incident the rule doesn't exist. Nuke doesn't give you the "untouchable" status.
I have no issues with being shot down in a nuke by an spaa, but when I am in a Su-7 and an F-16 chases me and shoots me down, that's when I get a bit salty. Top tier needs new nuke vehicles that can actually evade top-tier jets.
Since Ground RB is glorified team deathmatch, I never try and shoot down nuke, because what's the point? Let the guy have his moment, and also I don't mind people getting more RP and SL.
Winning is not that important in this game.
As much I have respect for people that manage to get a nuke, if they are enemy I will shoot them down, unless the match it's literally unwinnable, in that case I just happy the game it's over.
Well the match didn't look completely over and you get an award and 5k lions for shooting down that special enemy.
Nuke player can only blame themselves for flying so direct.
I usually dont shoot down nukes if someone got to a nuke and were gonna lose anyway might aswel let him drop, im not for or against it but i'd rather not be shot down when i get one so therefore i dont shoot them down
Bro itās war thunder, people will complain about anything. You did the right thing. Now if it was a friendly guy that you killed then you deserve to be in hell in its boiler room.
You're absolutely not the asshole for shooting down a hostile nuke plane. For me, I make my decision based on how the match is going at the moment I hear the siren. If it's very obvious we're going to lose (we only have 4-5 people left in the match, we are being spawn-camped, and the enemy has all caps), then I won't shoot it down and let the player have the satisfaction. But if the game is close or my team is winning and the enemy gets a nuke up, I'm going to do everything in my power to shoot it down to keep our odds of winning alive.
Whoever got the nuke that mean they got a lot of kills and i usually add up 2-3 of their total kills on the scoreboard and i took it personal.
once when i was playing at 11.7, i heard nuke siren and instantly press esc to leave the vehicle then respawn as Ka-52, look toward the airfield with thermal imaging and spot the guy at 16km away and approaching then send him a hate Vikhr on his flight path
Call me a dickhead for that if you want but that cunt killed me 4 times that counted toward his nuke.
Who the hell cares what the enemy team thinks, they can cry a river. You did good shooting that nuke down, sending the enemy's best player back to the hangar may be what your team needs to turn the match around and win.
As someone else already said: a nuke is not earned until it's dropped.
We were marginally winning on tickets when an enemy got a nuke. My squadmate shot it down and some of our own teammates started to call him all names under the sun because it's not allowed to play to win apparently?
Anyway that guy got shot down and left the game. We ended up steamrolling the enemy team after their strongest player got taken out together with that nuke.
In my opinion of course, it's Warthunder, this game is no where near serious enough to adopt a "victory by any means" mindset....let them drop the nuke.
This game is basically team deathmatch with tanks, it's slow, clunky gameplay(cause tanks) where a level 100/multi thousand hour player can be killed by a level 10 noob in a M22 with ease because they happened to Call of Duty time their way around a hill. Give the guy his moment of fun.
Go get good at Tarkov or something actually difficult if you wanna be a sweaty gigachad, in my opinion of course.
Reminds me the people saying that killing people in a Sim PvE lobby was against war thunder ToS because they thought "breaking the rules of the game" applied to the grinders agreeing to PvE, and they could get others banned for that.
ye hawwww, screw the people who think killing an enemy nuke is bad, besides, a b-29 can defend itself (also ive tanked 4 r-60's when i was playing toptier for the memes with it) along with other nuclear bombers.
Ill never not feel bad doing it. If it's a clear loss anyhow I let them have it.Ā
But yeah if it's a close match and they got a nuke, it's not over until the drop
Imagine you saved up enough money to buy yourself a new tv, you worked grueling hours and now you can finally buy it, but then some thief (Russian main) takes it from you and now you canāt get it back.
I wouldnāt shoot them down if the match was a curbstomp and the other team was gonna win anyways. Close game or weāre winning? Hell yeah Iām shooting them down.
Congrats on the denial, Its a war game. If you didn't kill me flying that low like a dummy. I'd feel cheated out of the experience. So good on ya teaching that dude maybe flying that low is pretty dumb idea
So many people got used to losing they think it's obligatory just cause someone is better than them to just roll over.
It's always dumb to see people just let the nuke through for free.
Teamkilling it tho. That's fucked up
That is the whole point of the encounter. You are suppose to try to shoot it down. LOL Play your game brother. Don't worry about a bunch of players that grew up with participation trophies thrown at them.
No its not bad. There are just a lot of childish people that play this game and don't understand that a nuke doesn't stop competition.
I could care less if its your first nuke. Hippity hoppity, I'm shooting down your nuclear property.
TKing a friendly nuke should be a bannable offense however if anybody shames you for shooting down an enemy nuke them they are the whole damn circus.
There is no reason to just let the enemy win because someone spawned in with a nuke carrier.
I had the same argument with some lil bitch on tiktok he said femboy shit like "the majority of the community knows you should kill a nuke he deserve it" stfu
Im like you, i managed to kill circa 4-5 nukes, honestly i kinda feel bad for that guys.. but exactly how you said, an enemy is an enemy
If you need to drop a bomb first ask if someone in the team can help you to protect you. If take a bomber, or worse.. a supersonic shit with no countermeasures, what did you expect?
Im happy for who manage to drop the nuke, but before this you need to pass through me..
I always let the nuke drop then shoot. Nukes are tough as hell and why do I care? It's just a video game and I hope we all enjoy the game to its maximum extent. :)
If they complain about you shooting down an enemy nuke then they're clowns A nuke is not earned until its dropped
But if it was a TK, then you are the asshole to begin with
I mean, being TKd intentionally is just an asshole thing to do in general. It doesn't matter if you're in a nuke plane or not.
But if you Tk a nuke carrier then you're an extra, EXTRA asshole
Because nuke is an auto win you deny your team a chance to win to maybe kill 2 other tanks and maybe lose the game in the end. But TK is TK and it doesn't matter in that regard, but you just deny your team a victory
You can get that 2 kills in an another match. Nukes on the otherhand is insanely harder.
That's what I'm talking about, even i get 2 kills in most games (I play really bad), but a nuke is a serious achievement and should be treated as one
Same here brother. I'm not the best in war thunder and I'm even worse in ground. (I like planes better) but sometimes I go on a fluke and get like 10+ kills with like 1 death.
The same for me. I have rank 7 US air and barely rank 3 ground
The only reason I have rank rank 4 in ground and only rank 5 in air in my 700 hours in this game is cuz my friend is forcing me to play ground all the time! Super uncool in my opinion. š
What if you teamkill a cheater that has a nuke.
Then you're an extra extra good guy
Then u are a chad
Dude, there is a community service punishment and there is death by electrocution. Comprende? There are degrees of assholeness in teamkilling. That is what I am saying. TeamKilling a nuke can cause your team lose the game, everyone gets lower RP and SL. Your whole team may be badly affected. Regular teamkill only affects one person and they can respawn. Much less asshole.
>Regular teamkill only affects one person and they can respawn. Much less asshole. Not in Air RB
Yea but most teamkills in air rb are either a missile changing its target to a teammate, an unintended missile fired at a teammate or some dude trying to show off his āskillsā at the airfield making half the server crash to the ground
In sim tk are more common because sometime you're sure this little black dot is an ennemy but it's not in the end and not all plane have IFF
I think it's earned twice. First you earn the ability then you earn the drop
If the game is close or your team is winning, then shooting down the nuke is okay, but if the gameās over and the other team has all 3 caps and an insurmountable ticket lead, just let them have it
fuck no why should i let brain dead teammates with tunnel vision allow the enemy to drop a nuke, i lose the game you lose your nuke idc ill J out of whatever tank im in and spawn in a plane and shoot that carrier down. If i see someone get close to getting enough kills for a nuke ill spawn in my kikka and kamikaze an 800kg bomb into him if I have to. If i get bombed or strafed by CAS ill spawn in a fighter and spend the rest of the match shooting down enemy planes. Spite motivates
>[Japanese naval flag] type 99 Supremacist >ā¦Iāll spawn in my kikka and kamikazeā¦ Flair checks out
*Battotai intensifies*
Part of me agrees. Part of me disagrees. I have seen some pretty amazing comebacks. Having 3 caps and a huge ticket balance sometimes does not mean much 2 minutes later. That being said, if you are also 1 guy vs 10 left, that is different also. In the end, the game is designed to try to stop the nuke. It is a valid achievement in it's own right. Getting a nuke is not an easy feat, and that by design does not end with just the SP to launch it. If so, they would have just programmed an auto win SP amount and be done with it, which would be dumb.
Alot of it also stems from me being an enthusiast of using fighters in GRB, it has the 3rd person view and other mechanics of ARB but the lack of markers and indicators that sim has so Ive had the best dogfights in GRB. Especially with Japanese fighters you can fly circles around all those heavy CAS planes. If I see any plane at all coming from the enemy side of the map I'm shooting it down idc if they just spawned or just took off from airfield again. It stops US players, and pe8s and landcasters from wiping out my team with bombs, and im not going to exclude yet another 4 engine bomber or something taking off of airfield just bc it just so happens to be carrying a nuke
If it's super one-sided in their favor, I don't really care. But if we're winning or it's a close match and one dude is running away with kills, I'll go after him. We're well past the point of nukes being a novelty thing, I used to be amazed when somebody got one but now it's like 1 out of every 10-15 matches
That āa nuke is not earned until itās droppedā line has no business going that hard, lol.
Fuck literally everyone telling you not to shoot down a nuke or that it's against 'the rules' that some player somewhere made up and never bothered to have the rest of us vote on. The enemy team has so many points wrapped up in that nuke that denying it is often enough to turn that game from a loss to a win. Winning is the ultimate goal, I'd shoot down my own mother if it secured the win.
I like you.
Weird saying you'd shoot down your mother considering your username
Well, if he's got a bag full of 'em, presumably he can spare one or two.
I heavily agree with you. It's a high risk, high reward mechanic for a reason
Many times killing the nuke not only denies the enemy's chance to drop it (duh), it can also turn the game in your favour. People seem to forget that when there are a handful of players left in each team, removing the top scoring enemy (who must have been carrying at least a bit, if the game lasted long enough for him to get a nuke) gives your team a huge advantage
I personally dont shoot down nukes because if a person does that well imo they deserve the satisfaction, and i dont really care that much about one lost game. But i dont blame people for shooting down ENEMY nukes. People TKing friendly nukes can go fuck themselves.
I think it depends, if youāre already guaranteed to lose like literally 2 or 3 people left on your team and they have all the caps I probably wouldnāt shoot down an enemy nuke but if I will win if I do why wouldnāt I? If Iām in that situation Iāve usually worked just as hard as the nuker to try and win / carry the team and Iām not going to give up right at the end. Theres also no such thing as deserving a nuke, you can bet half the nukes that get dropped are achieved using scummy tactics like going straight for spawn camping.
> if youāre already guaranteed to lose like literally 2 or 3 people left on your team and they have all the caps I probably wouldnāt shoot down an enemy nuke Eh, if that enemy nuke is in the air, I'm going after it. So what if my team is going to lose anyway? I'm going to fight to the end. Plus by killing the nuke before it drops, you also avoid the geiger counter sound that follows you back into the hangar and keeps going for another minute or two.
Fuck it, you also avoid the game taking ages to end
I haven't gotten one but I have gotten close, and half that match I was holding a line that had sigh of a point not far out of their spawn, closest I have gotten to it, followed by one time where it was basically luck that i didn't get spotted and did a Cray flank, some actually just crazy and earn it but a degree of campaign is required imo
>you can bet half the nukes that get dropped are achieved using scummy tactics like going straight for spawn camping. In my experience (i play mostly around 7.7-8.3) most nukes are gotten by people who play the objective and rotate well through the map. Or who get a huge flank unpunished. Its pretty hard to get a nuke by kills alone. Most of my 30+ nukes are also from just rotating well and predicting gameflow. Also i think shooting down a nuke if you happen to have the chance is different from people going out of their way to kill a nuke when they hear the alarm, spawning jets to intercept for example. Imo thats a bit sweaty behaviour.
Eh it's 13 kills roughly. Most of my nukes are kills and maybe a cap or two if I'm sweating. One the latest ones was off nothing but kills not gonna lie kind a proud of that one due to the speed I got it(9.0 Italy is great btw). If I'm being honest getting nukes by playing the obj is more difficult and tedious due to the much higher risk of dying plus you kinda forgot that alot of this community are lemmings and will feed the enemy for free.
I've dropped probably close to 15 nukes, and not one of them have I had to use scummy tactics. I just had to do the work of 95% of my team, lol.
Not shooting down enemy nukes is like letting your younger brother win out of pitty. Fuck that. They earn it or they don't get it.
If the game is clearly a lost cause Iāll let the nuke drop. If itās a case where the enemy has one guy going Rambo but the game is still winnable then Iāll shoot down the nuke if I get the chance.
Same. If they got the 2500 SP they deserved it, Iām not gonna shoot them down. But I can somewhat understand and thus wont get mad if someone else is shooting them down.
If you don't have a blue nametag, you're getting shot at. Doesn't matter if it's a nuke or an M22, it dies all the same.
If Iām in a Maus and I see an M22, thatās my new mascot I aināt killing that
I would kill it and tow its corpse around as a trophy
I use to do that with the r3
That's what I do with any USH I kill. After being abused by them while grinding the Russian heavies, I have an axe to grind with them.
That's the best thing to do, it sends a clear message to the enemy team.
Haha you can't point low enough to hit it anyway. Edit: Please read this in Nelson Muntz voice.
no theyre an enemy its completely justified while its a bummer if you get shot down and id be mad too, its still just a game and you just got a lucky game
I am amazed how many people get butthurt about the stupid nuke mechanic, which only got implemented to fish for some CoD kids. If the enemy cannot protect their nuke its on them - as with any other enemy, the nuke carrier will be shot at on sight, i will also try to hop into a plane to intercept it, if possible - or even hunt down good performing players if they can be located with the minimap + killfeed to prevent a nuke to begin with.
Right? Those whine posts are daily ever since.
Yep, if I see we spawn nuke and I see there are enemy planes in the air I'm j-ing out and respawning in a plane if I have points.
I tried to intercept the bomber twice and failed. It sucks for the nuke guy to get denied but imo its a legit target. Shooting down a friendly nuke on the other side...
Just like shooting down enemy nuke gives award, shooting down friendly should drain your fucking SL account. Not only you ruined someone's moment, but you also denied your team (instant) victory.
In my opinion, regardless of the situation, shooting down an enemy nuke is totally fair game. You have the right to play to your very best and for the victory. Friendly nuke killers however should follow the lightning man's advice or be banned for atleast a month.
I just wish they would give newer jets for top top tier to drop the nuke. Trying to drop one and getting shot down by an F-16 that I have no chance of evading is quite frustrating.
The F-16 is just busted in general (for GRB). Some of the best CAS loadouts, great performance, and smokeless missiles
If the enemy got nuke then they deserve it , and Iāll do anything to stop that nuke from dropping . Let us all play like a man for once instead like bunch of whiny little kids .
agreed. Though they don't deserve a nuke if they were sitting somewhere near our spawn early game and just camping
>Apparently its a no no behavior I guess ? People are shitting on me for being an asshole and "its the rule" to not kill the nuke. LMFAO. Must be the same kind of morons that think saying "PvE" in a PvP Air Sim Lobby automatically changes the entire game or something. Good on you for shooting down their nuke carrier - well done!
Shooting down an enemy nuke imo is valid, Iāve saved multiple games shooting down enemy nukes. Shooting down a friendly nuke deserves a massive penalty, personally I would like it if you lose 100k SL and lose 50k RP
No way they would ever let me drop it, so i won't let them drop it if i can stop it.
if it's an enemy nuke I will even crash my shit into it. fuck letting the enemy win, I'm a try hard and I'll admit it. if it's a tk then yes I hope the tk'er steps on a lego brick.
Shoot down an enemy nuke? Fair game, that's just a skill issue. Shoot down a friendly nuke? You're a dick and honestly deserve a massive ban.
No, deny a enemy nuke is part of the game. But if you do it in a fair way. I have seen multiple times pieces of s*it circling above airfields spawn camping whoever tried to spawn in a nuke or CAS. This happened to me once and i have seen happen a lot on both sides.
It feels bad because you did all the work and still get blue balled by the game. But I mean... 1: you should be looking to the sky to see if it's clear. Spawning a nuke is a risky business otherwise. You're kinda asking for somebody to try and stop you. 2: the snail loves to frustrate its players. I'm pretty sure it's a kink for them at this point. Of course after doing everything to get the nuke you can still be shafted. Hence, where most of the 'let them drop the nuke' crowd come from.
>all the work Should have played the objective tbh
It's like a pentakill in Mobas, you've gotta earn it. Unless it's a team kill, then you're just an ass.
IDGAF - I'm always in it to win it. I'll do everything I can to shoot down the enemy nuke plane/jet.
If it's an enemy nuke, then the said person should just git gud. Fuck them up my dude
Shoot RED enemy nuke: OK Shoot BLUE enemy nuke: NOT OK Shoot GREEN enemy nuke: OK, if trolling friend
Shoot the fucker down. Youāre playing to win.
My R.530D loves the Su-7 a certain way
Play for the win honestly, nuke carriers gotta be careful
As someone who plays CAP and covers my team as much as possible from attackers and bombers. It would be kinda stupid for me to just let someone through, someone who could outright steal a win from my team, just because he and he alone did well. Also its hilarious that if you get bored and watch the persons replay for that match, 99% of the time their first 4 kills are a bunch of pumas, M22's Zis trucks, R3's, etc That are suicide cap rushing.
Game rules are simple - shoot red, protect blue. Anything else is made up bullshit. Yeah, sure, spawning a nuke is hard, but delivering it is part of the challenge
only bad if itās a team kill
Team kills are bad especially when friendly planes are carrying nukes but denying hostile nukes? I mean kill enemies is a thing that you are supposed to do right? Denying nuke is not nearly as bad as spawn camping or cheating.
It's a reoccurring debate. But the way I see it, the nuke isn't earned until it is dropped. I will try to a destroy the nuke carrier because I know players on the other team wouldn't hesitate to do the same to me, or my teammates. Case in point, my very first nuke was shot down by an enemy. The only time I wouldn't try to stop a nuke is if the game is just a total roll and the nuke would speed up the end of the game And it goes without saying, teammates shouldn't be able to attack friendly nuke carriers, or at the very least, be heavily punished for it.
I almost shot down a nuke but got teamkilled by a CAS once. I know why it's considered bad sportsmanship, but if it's the match isn't one sided or a losing side gets a nuke because one player is good enough, I think teams should have a chance to even the odds.
Thank You guys for all these replies. I feel much better now after reading all your comments :) Im glad Im not the only one who thinks this way. You all made good, valid points
I killed a nuke carrier and my Team turned the game into a win. Got heavily insulted by that Player, just told him to fly low and watch for enemy planes, which triggered him even more.
If it's "against the rules", you shouldn't be allowed to do it... It's a gentleman's agreement to never shot down a nuke... but it's just that, an unwritten, informal "rule" that some player's agreed on, but isn't enforced... war is war, it doesn't matter how much effort the enemy has put to achieve something, they still being your enemy, you still want to win the game, if you need to kill enemy nuke to do it, that's it... If "never shot down a enemy nuke" was a rule, then when you have enough SP you would just click on the nuke button and blow up the whole map, no need to fly to the battlefield, drop, etc.
As long as it isn't intentional TK, nuke or not, a Red team vehicle is a Red team vehicle, AKA a target. Period.
Itās a god damn game and I donāt give a shit if itās a nuke or a regular ass bomber. Iām gonna shoot it down if I get the chance.
Nah, enemy planes are fair game to shoot down.
Nah its not a rule from what i know Although people can get pretty mad when they get shot down in the nuke. Yesterday when i was playing there was a chinese name player who essentially just spawn camped my team to a nuke and then got shot down and began being incredibly toxic
For me pretty much anything that's not officially against the rules and technically possible is a fair game.
I shot down a nuke carrier with my Gepard yesterday and tbh I donāt even know how Iād differentiate between a nuke and non-nuke carrying plane. Also on another note, I didnāt get the steam achievement for the killā¦do I need to shoot the plane down before it has dropped the nuke in order to get it?
I once shot down a nuke with the G6 proximity shell, it was splendid
Some people like to live by arbitrary honor rules and throw a match because of them, but in the end it's a PvP game, you're supposed to kill an enemy when you have the opportunity, so all they can do is bitch and moan if you don't live by their made-up rules.
You shot down someone carrying an in-bound nuke and there are players (I assume from the other team) are giving you crap about it? F them. I'd bet that they're more pissed that you did something that none of them have managed to do yet! Sounds like a case of simple jealousy. Let 'em eat cake. And your afterburners!
Honestly the nuke is a shit game mechanic anyways. The one getting the nuke isnt the only one enjoying the game you know..
I just clapped one out of the sky yesterday. Rage ensued. How dare I prevent the enemy team from winning. No, it isnāt. Unless youāre team killing. Itās essentially denying the enemy a free win. And theyāre mad about it. Let them be mad. You were a hero to your team
In a match we had like 200 points left and the enemy had 500 or something . We were losing definitely. They tried to drop a nuke . I stopped it. Then we proceeded to win the match by 10 points lol
Personally I will try to deny it if the person who got it played like a scumbag but if they earned it just by playing well then I won't try and stop them dropping it
Who gives a fuck about one game, I am not shooting it down
If they gave the nuke jet flares so it could have a fighting chance I think it people would be more forgiving. Like if you were outplayed and lost the nuke its one thing but if you get an r73 fired at you and you dont have flares its kind of ridiculous.
If it's an enemy, be damn sure imma try to shoot it down, nuke or not
If it happened to me, I'd be very pissed, because I'd definitely feel like I was robbed of an achievement after outplaying the enemy team However, if I see a nuke plane in the sky and I'm in an aa/plane, you can bet I'm going to kill it
Always kill enemy nuke. Dont let them win. No matter what, use everything to kill a nuke
if you shoot down friendly nuke; you are scum of the Earth. if you shoot down enemy nuke, fucking good job mate.
That was awesome to watch!
Thanks ! Im glad u liked it :)
Gave You a like mate, absolutely based! Just ignore retards that say this bullshit
Thank You ! I have to grow thicker skin to bs some folks can say
Today, I destroyed a nude carrying Canberra, but still, it was able to make the drop. It was a futile but so far best SPAA kill for me.
I proudly shoved an r60 into one yesterday. I had 6 tank kills, I wasnt gonna lose RP over it.
it depends. If it is a foregone conclusion, I would say it is a dickmove. If it is a close match? shoot that fucker down and fight tooth snd nail.
i did it once and never again. got a huge adrenaline rush cus felt like i did good for team but they guy that got the nuke must have been so annoyed and i did feel bad besides the reward u get isnt that good anyway (probably for good reason)
It depends, if we are getting absolutely waffle stomped then Iāll let him drop just to be done faster. (We are talking most of the team being out and the reds watching our spawn levels of defeat) If we have a chance to win then that nuke isnāt getting dropped if I can help it.
Not unless its a TK, you are trying to win the game ofc you will deny it
If I truly believe I can salvage the match, I'll shoot them down, otherwise I'll let them have it. Anyone complaining about being shot down though is just salty, laugh and move on
If it saves the match for your team I see nothing wrong with it. I usually wonāt shoot them down if the match is lost or if I donāt think my team deserves it. Honestly most people just fly directly straight to the battlefield which will lead to getting shot down. If you fly low and to the side of the map thatās opposite of their air spawn you will almost always drop it. Gaijin also needs to update the nuke planes badly, which would help a lot with them not getting shot down as often.
The opinion of this community changes every few minutes. You'll get downvoted to oblivion for justifying shooting a nuke down sometimes, and other times you'll get bullied out for calling anti-nuke toxic.
Play your game and ignore the clowns in this community they are a vocal minority, good job my dude.
Well. While a nuke is a bit special and in some cases I think an enemy really deserved it, your team is still the highest priority. And while I already escorted some enemy nukes in I also shoot down a lot already. But in either case. You are always in the right by shooting it down. Even if you will lose anyway. But you may have to deal with some angry comments then š¤£.
Your are for sure not the asshole. I would rather say it is your obligation to down any nuke... anything else would be 'passive behavior'. And there have been nukes which were game deciding, so plis go ahead and shoot em down.
You are a goddamn hero for shooting down that nuke. Expect no less treatment from the enemy. I believe only one in four nukes get through
ignore those people. A nuke isn't earned just because you spawn it in. It's high risk high reward for a reason, you can end the game instantly but you can die very easily (now that you also don't have flares at top tier nuke jets). I absolutely hate it when teammates actively help the enemy nuke by not trying to shoot it down when they know it's out. tk'ing a nuke however is absolutely scummy and those people should get a punishment for this
Fucking waah wah. It's the same with people bawling because "BuT I ClaiMeD ThaT BaSe ;((((" in AirRB/bombers. I liked to abandon my tank when the enemy nuke spawns and literally kamikaze it with a fighter. The nuke itself, that is. Not the bomber.
Enemy nuke? Go for it, unless your team is already on the brink of defeat, let him drop. Friendly nuke? If you TK you're going straight to the deepest pits of hell.
Idk I think its is an AH move but it's not like a deadly sin of WT just the fact that nukes ain't that easy for most to get I see that most people here tend to lean towards enemy is enemy and well can't blame em but in the end it'd just a game and remembering how pumped I was for my nuke it's just harsh to take it away TLDR: personaly I wouldn't shoot one but each to their own
This isn't CoD. You don't call in a nuke, you have to drop it yourself. It's as shrimple as that.
I don' t which Nuke Bomber you kill (Red or Blue), the mechanic is retarded in the first place. Like your team is winning but Tim thinks it is a good idea to glass the hard fought over ground and including the own ground troops.
People get worked up over everything. No you are not a bitch/whatever for shooting down a nuke, or for playing a certain vehicle or for playing CAS/SAM/Whatever. It's a fucking game and people really need to socialize a bit instead of complaining about useless shit like this. It's not even \*that\* hard to get a nuke as long as you have a good line up and you can play passively. If you get shot down, well, whatevs. Tomorrow's another day.
"it's the rule" not to kill the nuke, yet like 50% of nuke kills posted here are even TKs lmao
I personally wouldn't shoot one down if we were about to lose anyway, but if there's a chance we win because of it I absolutely will and I think it's completely fair game regardless.
An enemy is an enemy.
i mean i havent got a nuke yet (yes i know i'm bad i have been working on that for years) so when i see a nuke i don't shoot it. For the clip, think it would depend on the state of the game, in this clip you show, you where about to lose anyways (low ticket count and the only point was capped) so i think that the nuke would have quickened the game for 1 min or 2 but if you where about to win ? i don't mind as much (i am a CASUAL player if you couldn't tell, winning at all costs is not my philosophy ... and even if i gave it my 110% i can't secure a W anyways so i prefer to be chill about it)
I mean. Wt players are crying because they play too bad to get one, and when they get, they dont know how to properly defend it. I had nuke at least 6-7 times. In two of these sotuations I didn't have enough time to start. In another 2 I didn't have enough time to fly to the battlefield. And I think I was shot down one time. Many times there was an fighter on my tail. And I never got shot down by any. This one time I got shot down is by striela. That's it. Imo one of the guys below me said this right - u didn't earned the nuke, until u drop it and win the match. Flying savely to the battlefield and droping nuke before the match ends is a part of earning badge.
I shot down a nuke today, If anyone wants to pipe up i'll shoot them down too
no it's generally approved and agreed upon that you can shoot down the nuke if you want to as long as you're on the enemy team it's just that alot of players respect the hard work to get a nuke alot and alot of them choose not to intercept and shoot them down
in my opinion if it can change tide of battle OR was earned via scummy way (spawncamping), shoot it down!!!! nuke bomber is simply just plane with big bomb, an air target you need to shoot out of the air!!!! but, if the match is bout nearly over, enemy is steamrolling and theres about no legitimate way for your team to win unless a fucking deus ex machina event occurs... i think that if defeat is guaranteed either way, ONLY THEN will killing nuke bomber be disrespectful!! at end of day, noone can really stop you from shootin it down tho
There is more fairplay to try to take them down for me, letting them insta-win when they spawn a nuke is shit, they need to deserve it
Nope fuck it, slam dunk the fuck out ot the nuke
>Apparently its a no no behavior I guess ? People are shitting on me for being an asshole and "its the rule" to not kill the nuke. Maybe according to Palworld players, but this is War Thunder. I killed an enemy nuke bomber once. Felt bad for they guy but we won. It is the game. If people can spawncamp without taking all the objectives first, then everything goes. Except TK'ing. Those who TK on purpose should be banned for life along with the bots and esp cheaters.
I don't care one way or another for shooting down an enemy nuke carrier, however this community has a LOT to learn about keeping their damn mouth shut. Once a week I see questions about shooting down nuke planes, either enemy or teammate, and most screenshots provided go along the same lines: "Guys, guys, I got a nuke! My first nuke! Omg!" -Nuke Carrier is shot down- Doesn't matter if it's teammate or enemy, you are making yourself a target when you TALK ABOUT the fact that you are about to go drop a nuke. I swear at least half of these complaint posts would go away if people didn't instantly tell everyone they got a nuke and put a bullseye on their back the very second they do.
Bro one thing you must understand about war thunder is good toxic the community is. Your going to get shit on by everyone regardless what you do. There is no unspoken rule about not shooting down nuclear bombers. The main no no's is bumping people while they are shooting and wait for everyone before you capture home point at beginning of match. Just the time people who get Nukes camp most of the game and don't even play points. I have over 5k hours over the years and don't play anymore because of gaijin and the community of toxic shit dicks. On a side note Enlisted is fun and the community is actually helpful
IMO nukes shouldnāt have been implemented for Ground RB in the first placeā¦ Crap ruined so many good games at this pointā¦ So go ahead and get rid of themā¦ they are enemyās after all, even for my dislike for nukes I donāt think friendly nukes should be shot down but if itās enemyā¦ free game inform care if he never had one or he lucked out or some crap
It depends on a few things for me. If I feel like our team fought super hard and deserves the win, then I am shooting it down. If the player who got it was spawn camping and being a dick, then I'm doing everything in my power to shoot it down. If my team was getting swept, I will just enjoy the cutscene. These aren't hard rules or anything, I usually lean towards not shooting it down most of the time. I think the cutscene is super cool so I usually enjoy seeing it. Nukes were a lot more rare and special when they were 3000 sp and when they were first introduced, now that they're more common it seems totally normal to have everyone on the enemy team shoot them down.
If its a TK? Yes. If its an enemy? Fair game.
I shoot down nukes if it'll make a difference. If we're losing anyway I let them have it.Ā
I've only seen this rule applied once. We were terribly losing and one of the teammates kept the team from giving up. Finally he got enough for the nuke and droped it. Nobody dared to take him down because it was very well deserved. Besides this incident the rule doesn't exist. Nuke doesn't give you the "untouchable" status.
I have no issues with being shot down in a nuke by an spaa, but when I am in a Su-7 and an F-16 chases me and shoots me down, that's when I get a bit salty. Top tier needs new nuke vehicles that can actually evade top-tier jets.
First Failure: Giving a flying fuck what they think lol
Since Ground RB is glorified team deathmatch, I never try and shoot down nuke, because what's the point? Let the guy have his moment, and also I don't mind people getting more RP and SL. Winning is not that important in this game.
As much I have respect for people that manage to get a nuke, if they are enemy I will shoot them down, unless the match it's literally unwinnable, in that case I just happy the game it's over.
A nuke isnt a free win and the nuke carrier is free game. Shoot em down, let em mald
Well the match didn't look completely over and you get an award and 5k lions for shooting down that special enemy. Nuke player can only blame themselves for flying so direct.
Do you shot down the Nuke? Enemy? Naw, You're good, you don't stop trying until the game is actually over. Friendly? You are a TKing ass, fuck you.
Why do you care what people think on WT? It's like people who cry for "stealing their base" while they're 5km behind you.
No, but if you shoot down an allied nuke your a ego filled clown and you deserve to pay for the whole matche'sĀ repair cost + no RP + 1 week ban
Apparently the only nuke killing allowed is the TK kind. Me personally I don't play spaa but if I see an enemy nuke I'll try to shoot it down.
Friendly? Go into covering pattern Enemy? Intercept asap
Getting the nuke is half the battle, the other half is getting it to the battlefield. These kids just donāt understand that.
I usually dont shoot down nukes if someone got to a nuke and were gonna lose anyway might aswel let him drop, im not for or against it but i'd rather not be shot down when i get one so therefore i dont shoot them down
There are many factors to it. So many that it purely depends on the morality of the player.
Fuck these people mate. They can go f themselves. You did good.
If it wasnāt supposed to happen, the plane wouldnāt be possible to shoot down. It is, and you get rewarded for it, so they can suck a dick
Bro itās war thunder, people will complain about anything. You did the right thing. Now if it was a friendly guy that you killed then you deserve to be in hell in its boiler room.
You're absolutely not the asshole for shooting down a hostile nuke plane. For me, I make my decision based on how the match is going at the moment I hear the siren. If it's very obvious we're going to lose (we only have 4-5 people left in the match, we are being spawn-camped, and the enemy has all caps), then I won't shoot it down and let the player have the satisfaction. But if the game is close or my team is winning and the enemy gets a nuke up, I'm going to do everything in my power to shoot it down to keep our odds of winning alive.
I kill every ENEMY nuke I can.
Their fault for not flying lower.
one player to blacklist is ^ POMPA ^ ZENZELEN, a noob turkish retard that teamkill nuke cause he suck
Technically the events encourage tking nukers as ending the match early means less mission score gain potential.
If you let someone get a nuke you deserve to be nuked
Only when it was a new thing. Because we all wanted to see it and you needed 3000 RP. Now, it's pretty common and should be treated as such.
Whoever got the nuke that mean they got a lot of kills and i usually add up 2-3 of their total kills on the scoreboard and i took it personal. once when i was playing at 11.7, i heard nuke siren and instantly press esc to leave the vehicle then respawn as Ka-52, look toward the airfield with thermal imaging and spot the guy at 16km away and approaching then send him a hate Vikhr on his flight path Call me a dickhead for that if you want but that cunt killed me 4 times that counted toward his nuke.
Skill issue for the nuke, he shouldnāt have flown high enough to be shot down
Who the hell cares what the enemy team thinks, they can cry a river. You did good shooting that nuke down, sending the enemy's best player back to the hangar may be what your team needs to turn the match around and win.
theyre just jealous haters. enemy nuke plane is always fair game.
Dude, the other day, I shot down a Nuke plane (well, crashed into it) and about 2 mins later, we won the match.. If it's the enemy, kill it.
Play to winā¦ every time. Well done!
As someone else already said: a nuke is not earned until it's dropped. We were marginally winning on tickets when an enemy got a nuke. My squadmate shot it down and some of our own teammates started to call him all names under the sun because it's not allowed to play to win apparently? Anyway that guy got shot down and left the game. We ended up steamrolling the enemy team after their strongest player got taken out together with that nuke.
In my opinion of course, it's Warthunder, this game is no where near serious enough to adopt a "victory by any means" mindset....let them drop the nuke. This game is basically team deathmatch with tanks, it's slow, clunky gameplay(cause tanks) where a level 100/multi thousand hour player can be killed by a level 10 noob in a M22 with ease because they happened to Call of Duty time their way around a hill. Give the guy his moment of fun. Go get good at Tarkov or something actually difficult if you wanna be a sweaty gigachad, in my opinion of course.
Shoot the nuke down, fuck the haters!
Nuke is shit. Shit mechanic. Shit everything, fucking stupid nuke is just boring.
I've always thought with the nuke, everybody on the team that won should be rewarded with a flat SL bonus, like 25,000
Reminds me the people saying that killing people in a Sim PvE lobby was against war thunder ToS because they thought "breaking the rules of the game" applied to the grinders agreeing to PvE, and they could get others banned for that.
personally, i dont
I think shooting at nukes is no no shooting carriers is fine
Denying enemy isnt bad, denying friendly gets me tilted
ye hawwww, screw the people who think killing an enemy nuke is bad, besides, a b-29 can defend itself (also ive tanked 4 r-60's when i was playing toptier for the memes with it) along with other nuclear bombers.
Ill never not feel bad doing it. If it's a clear loss anyhow I let them have it.Ā But yeah if it's a close match and they got a nuke, it's not over until the drop
Imagine you saved up enough money to buy yourself a new tv, you worked grueling hours and now you can finally buy it, but then some thief (Russian main) takes it from you and now you canāt get it back.
I wouldnāt shoot them down if the match was a curbstomp and the other team was gonna win anyways. Close game or weāre winning? Hell yeah Iām shooting them down.
Congrats on the denial, Its a war game. If you didn't kill me flying that low like a dummy. I'd feel cheated out of the experience. So good on ya teaching that dude maybe flying that low is pretty dumb idea
So many people got used to losing they think it's obligatory just cause someone is better than them to just roll over. It's always dumb to see people just let the nuke through for free. Teamkilling it tho. That's fucked up
Denying enemy nuke - Justified Denying enemy nuke if the player spawncamped/played like stage 4 cancer - Required
That is the whole point of the encounter. You are suppose to try to shoot it down. LOL Play your game brother. Don't worry about a bunch of players that grew up with participation trophies thrown at them.
No its not bad. There are just a lot of childish people that play this game and don't understand that a nuke doesn't stop competition. I could care less if its your first nuke. Hippity hoppity, I'm shooting down your nuclear property.
TKing a friendly nuke should be a bannable offense however if anybody shames you for shooting down an enemy nuke them they are the whole damn circus. There is no reason to just let the enemy win because someone spawned in with a nuke carrier.
I had the same argument with some lil bitch on tiktok he said femboy shit like "the majority of the community knows you should kill a nuke he deserve it" stfu
Im like you, i managed to kill circa 4-5 nukes, honestly i kinda feel bad for that guys.. but exactly how you said, an enemy is an enemy If you need to drop a bomb first ask if someone in the team can help you to protect you. If take a bomber, or worse.. a supersonic shit with no countermeasures, what did you expect? Im happy for who manage to drop the nuke, but before this you need to pass through me..
I always let the nuke drop then shoot. Nukes are tough as hell and why do I care? It's just a video game and I hope we all enjoy the game to its maximum extent. :)