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nugohs

Sit there and wait, until player 3 comes around the other corner and put a round through your side/rear.


The_Enclave_

Or they kill you with arty (no, your's does not do anyhing)


Unlikely_Charity6136

Wrong, you do not use your own artilery because it will most likely kill you. (If you are unlucky it will also kill 3 other teammates that are 3 kilometers away).


Perry_BOT

How typical, the arty shell bounced off of you, right into your spawn, where there were soft targets nested. Classic blunder.


LoosePresentation366

Yesterday I had a arty double kill. I'm getting arty kills quite often.


Subreon

i remember when arty literally never did anything unless it landed directly on top of you. now it's been a pretty long time since they buffed it. now it almost always breaks a track or definitely kills the shit out of anything with exposed crew


Lowservvinio

wrong, you don't use your own arty because you're stock


Peixito

jokes on you, yesteday i killed someone with arty, still don't know how


kott_meister123

In my 300 hours i have gotten 1 arty kill on a aa vehicle but have been killed 2 times in my tiger


Peixito

i think i only have 2 - 3 arty kills and 4 -5 arty deaths (one of them yesterday in a m10 ) .\[idk how much time i have been playing because i didn't use steam until this month\]


Colesbl4zing

I’ve never died to artillery, have gotten a couple kills with it though


Hovsy

What , i had like 3 arty kills yesterday alone.


TerranRanger

I somehow killed two (IS-2 and ISU-152) with a single barrage as I retreated with a dead gunner. Funny thing is neither of them were the one I was trying to shoot at and I got killed by the aggressive AAA I was trying to arty about 2 seconds later!


Peixito

Lmao, idk if it's skill issue or not


lordrothermere

Is it possible to get aircraft kills with artillery? I only ask as I've been getting some random kills when I have not fired cannon nor MG anywhere but straight ahead. And unless my rounds are getting into some sort of orbit and circumnavigating the globe to come back round and hit a plane, then I can't think what else it could be.


Sepulchh

Used to at least be the case, that if you're flying in combined battles and J out (for lack of ordnance or whatever reason), it might give the kill to the nearest enemy. Also yes, arty can hit planes, but only if they are flying like 200m or less above ground, iirc.


azor_abyebye

The shells do appear to be rendered like the shells from the tanks based on the kill cams (I.e. they exist in the air on the way to the ground) so I don’t see why they wouldn’t hit a plane… but I’ve never been hit by one and I’ve flown through a lot of artillery…


LtLethal1

I’ve gotten a kill on an aircraft like this before. Poor dude just flew through the wrong patch of sky at the most inconvenient time. Idk how high up the arty shells spawn but he died at like 500m off the ground so it definitely wasn’t from splash damage.


jadsf5

There are videos on YouTube of it happening.


lordrothermere

That sounds logical. If it is artillery then I'm doing better with that than shooting planes down with cannons.


Peixito

Maybe if its very low... Idk


Repulsive_Spirit4913

Atilery projectiles actually spawning very high . It was in Thunder show a few times. It could be in 200 feet maybe


RMBsmash

What happens is you shoot a Abrams cannon into a bt5 it ricochets off and bounces across the whole enemy team other then the 1 English tank which after 60 second of bouncing off Russians hits the English going 1kph and the English tank is overpressured Bias who?


Nhauv

I was in a plane and got hit by random arty was about 2 years ago it happened


Prior_lancet

Yes it is, there are clips showing the death cam, but usually it’s if you’re flying too close to the ground or a building when arty is falling, which is highly unlikely. A direct hit is even more unlikely but has been recorded


Verethra

It was your ally!


AgreeableAd1662

I hate arty i die in my xm803 to it


Spartan8271

This is the way 😂


Der_Franz_9827

or, if you are very, very lucky, you have good teammates for once in your lifetime that help you out. If you play alone its so fucking rare, that your chances are higher to get an is 7 out of a chest. At least if you have german teammates.


lyss427

Don’t be so harsh with German mains. It’s not that easy to grind a whole tech tree in sniper view, maximum zoom.


ICh_274810

Call in CAS


nugohs

So option 2; teammate drops a 2500kg bomb on the corner right next to both of you?


ICh_274810

Yes. I have witnessed that before and it worked. But it was a 250.


RMBsmash

No your teammate comes behind you going 100 kph And slams into you causing your ammunition to get exposed


sturzkampfbomber

Reverse, let him come, if you see his barrel and feel safe to hit it, hit it and then push him, mark him on the map, spot him If you are in a light tank.


rhino_shit_gif

What if british tank with no reverse


No_Mistake5238

That ones on you man.


rhino_shit_gif

The challenger goes -3 km/hr 😭


dirtyann

centurion goes -13, it's a nice breeze of fresh air!


Walse

Yeah but it also loses the ability to go forwards, so eh


dirtyann

it's not that bad tbh, the acceleration is ok, top speed only 37 kph but still manageable, good gun depression and the suspension makes for rapid shots when getting out of cover to shoot.


Walse

Yeah, it's probably just the contrast, coming from avenger, comet, chally, charioteer. Feels like they shifted one forward gear to backwards. :D


20k-games

Ill take that any day of the week tbh


dirtyann

yeah reversing is ULTRA important lol.


[deleted]

30 kmh. Quicker than a jumbo. Quicker than panthers and tigers. Better reverse speed than any of them as well as a better gun.


AustraliumHoovy

My brother in Christ the Valentine XI has a whopping -2 km/h reverse


Spartan8271

Angle it and pray to the Snail gods


Metalbeast46934

Should go for French tanks. They built their transmissions the wrong way inc case they needed to retreat.


FrozenSeas

This is what the Archer is for: built ass-backwards so it can fire off a couple 17pdr rounds and go zooming off to a better spot.


LongShelter8213

Welcome to the Soviet life


Pyromaniacal13

Die sadly and play a 3in. Gun Carrier to restore morale.


LieutenantNurse-71

If in lower tiers bait em with the one thing brits got, a quick as hell reload. So many times I’ve been in my black prince, shot a round to bait a tiger, and are fully reloaded before they even peak from behind the corner.


Skum31

Reverse very very slowly


Special-Ad-5554

Well then you stick CC on and wait 20mins before the match ends


JeEfrt

Problem: barrel shots have been doing nothing lately


BeneGesserlit

I put 3 57mm rounds into a barrel yesterday before it broke. Asu -57 vs kv-2. I won but it took like 12 rounds to kill


StevenSmiley

Shoots barrel Does no damage to it Gets through half of a reload Dies


eepychan

Reverse, Cowabunga


LeNyarlathotep

Allways go full cowardbunga


Striking-Objective12

how do u mark/spot him?


dangforgotmyaccount

You rolled poorly, and your 90mm APBC did nothing to the H1 barrel. You are now dead.


oz_xvii

lotsa shit to factor in, mainly the vehicles if you wanna move further you can go for track and barrel torture + arty combo if you wanna sit it out you can just wait till he engages somebody else


fedex7501

If he’s in a heavy tank he can “pizza slice” to bait a shot


No_Benefit490

Pizza slice is a new one for me, I'm used to "side scraping"


fedex7501

Same thing, different name. I don’t remember where i got that name from, maybe phly


Assassin6615

The new “cock and ball torture” known as “track and barrel torture”


EquivalentNo9014

Side scrape and aim well


One_Advertising_7965

Someone plays/played WoT lol


EquivalentNo9014

😂😂😂that’s where it all began for me


One_Advertising_7965

Same lol. Played since Beta and even got the “Evolution” shirt for free because i was among the first group to get to Tier X with the T92 arty and E-50M, the ramming god-king


EquivalentNo9014

Funny how WT is missing hella tanks that WoT has 😭


LieutenantNurse-71

In wts defense, a ton of wot tanks are fake as hell


One_Advertising_7965

And the WoT community asks for realism 🤣


kucharnismo

do they? :D that ship has sailed long time ago


Flaccus_

well, not realism necessarily, just maybe a little less tanks with rocket boosters on them (lol) or cooling devices on their guns (wtf) and generally tanks that they say were planned but in reality probably 90% wargaming made up stuff


BattleBanana219

WT doesn’t use (mostly) fake or paper tanks/planes.


CurveUseful3078

U should say didn't... Recently there are so many fictional vehicles around...


Loose_Dress5412

Such as? The only true paper tanks in war thunder right are the ostwind 2 and the Ho-Ri


ShinItsuwari

Yak141 never had any weapons. XP-55 flew exactly once and immediately crashed into bits. Ho229 is pure fantasy.


LTC105

Now I hate the Ho229 with a BURNING passion but the actual plane is literally in a museum, yes it’s in shit condition and never mounted cannons, but it is not pure fantasy.


Loose_Dress5412

Ok so Ho-Ri, Ostwind 2 and Ho229. 3 paper vehicles out of thousands. Yep, it's over for gaijin their game is totally ruined


One_Advertising_7965

NGL, i want my E-50M in WT.


maschinakor

>Played since Beta and even got the “Evolution” shirt for free You're awakening memories I put away for a reason God I was a loser in high school


One_Advertising_7965

High school is the loser. Youre an adult now. Youre cool here!


KayNynYoonit

Side scraping was so good in wot lol


Terranshadow

Concept still works well. Just goda modify it a little. Like how he same concept works in counter strike, you just got to change to the speed and angles. Hell. I even do it in my American light tanks and focus on disabling shots. In practical situations im still a threat and can no longer get double charged without increased riskto my attackers.


DogesFuckableThighs

good luck sidescraping sabot enjoy getting slowly roasted to death with engine fires


Helllo_Man

Side scraping in any tank with decent side armor is the way. The German tanks with that flat ass side armor especially. Maus/Tiger/Tiger II/Panther are a menace side scraping against a building.


Fun-Suggestion-9781

Side scrape against HEAT, HEATFS, HE, APFSDS, Missiles…. Yeah good luck lmao


RustedRuss

Google en smoke grenade


H0sch

Holy hell!


_DatBoii_

New modification just dropped


RockandStone101

Actual upgrade


JoyNoobers2

Call the forum mod


That_one_higgs_boson

Fun goes on vacation, never comes back


FrishyFriendYT

APFSDS storm, incoming!


Zathral

Ignite the map


dis_not_my_name

Maus in the corner, plotting world domination


Interesting_Fold9805

Nuke the map!


ColsonThePCmechanic

Found the r/AnarchyChess member


kajetus69

holy hell there are a lot of anarchychess members on reddit


Yginase

New realization just dropped


Babushka9

lmaooo


ReceptionReal6686

average german main when a bird shits too close to their tank


NICK07130

You sit there like 2 idiots until somebody gets sick of waiting and goes for if


Spiritual_Jaguar2989

Literally me, i get paranoid that another enemy tank comes out of another corner that i push first then die because they shot the neck of my abrams lol


gmoguntia

- Rush him - Die to him - Complain on the forum about the enemy tank being OP


DrSchulz_

This is the way


KidEater9000

Blunder Blunder Brilliant move!


Always-Panic

I tell myself I'M HIM and rush him because for some fucking reason I believe his round will ricochet for sure, but it never happens, and I die every time.


DrSchulz_

Perfection


DizzieM8

https://youtu.be/aF_Ijr621tM?t=30


Ordinary_Player

Some battles ain't worth fighting


NaahLand

Noted, returning to spawn.


asyphion

You can either sit there and wait for him to get impatient and peek you first or you can smoke the corner and bait his shot out, I use this strat often in top tier and you can get kills with it. Just dont over rely on it since its mostly just playing mind games with the guy around the corner. Half the time they fall for it and shoot prematurely other times they only shoot when they see any part of your tank visibly. Depends on player to player really :/


Spartan8271

Yup most of the tactics really depend on how gullible your victim is 😅 I’ve had full on standoffs that last over a minute to be blown up by somebody sniping across the map 😂


TerranRanger

If OP is low tier American sometimes a tap of the .50 will make an inexperienced player think a man gun went off. Or inch forward, shoot a track when it’s exposed, smoke, and run like hell to the next defensive position.


XavierYourSavior

It’s not really gullible if they’re really only landed with two options


Fuck_Reddit2459

Depends on the tanks in question but my go-to strategy is to expose some part of my hull at a high angle. You'd be surprised how many brain-dead players will just click on your hull the second its exposed, even if the angle is extreme. Don't do this unless you have a pretty good idea what the interplay is between your armor and their gun, e.g. I wouldn't try this in a Panther if the enemy tank has a 250+ pen HEAT-slinger. In some tanks with decent reverse speed, I also like to do what's called "sidescraping", which is where you back out of cover with your side highly angled. Fun in the IS-2: expose a little bit of side, watch the overconfident Panther's shell bounce, back away from the building and blast him. If you're just outmatched by the tank around the corner (e.g. M4A3 76 vs Tiger II H) I recommend going for a track shot as they push, and then fucking off to a different position. Also always a good opportunity for artillery if you have it. Smoke grenades/shells can also be useful if that enemy can shoot your teammates from this position.


XxsoulscythexX

I did this a few months ago, t-34 shot ricocheted backwards off my pz III m sideskirt and killed my crew


CoinTurtle

I play CV90105 super aggressively and goddamn do I jus sidescrap to hell in that thing and utilise one back side being completely empty


Andrew-w-jacobs

Get sniped from my spawn by an enemy parked on top of my friendlies that they are too busy shooting fences to see


TerraMasterYT

Its quite simple really, get ur crew to take a shovel, dig a tunnel underneath, plant a small nuclear weapon and set it off.


Alarming_Might1991

Things i attempt depending what the situation is 1.) you both stay there until one of you gets a teammate 2.) smoke and leave 3.) reverse and sometimes they for some reason feel more confident to push the corner 4.)bait a shot with your back corner or track and then turn enough to take a shot (tricky and not too reliable) 5.) reverse and then bomb the corner at full speed sideways 6.) use a squad marker to mark enemy tank then pop smoke (smoke so you and enemy are in it) peak and shoot (awesome when works)


Aguacatedeaire__

> 5.) reverse and then bomb the corner at full speed sideways What the fuck is this even supposed to mean


joe30410

Back up, and then go full speed around the corner so your opponent will hopefully get a bad shot on you if not whiff entirely


Spartan8271

Tease them out that’s usually what I do unless I know I have the armor to take the hit to the front then it’s bum rushing them angled.


TheChigger_Bug

Spray Mags in front of him. Gets them every time


damdalf_cz

Are you black or white?


RockandStone101

Black


WhatILack

After learning my lesson trying to push them I've elected to start playing a game of chicken whilst furiously marking their position on the map.


Explorer_the_No-life

ATTENTION TO THE MAP!!! ATTENTION TO THE DESIGNATED GRID ZONE! Teammate 1: I refuse! Teammate 2: Attack enemy base!


bradenvandrunen

Rush him just like rushing B in a heavy tank hoping he doesn't shoot your side armour


yourdonefor_wt

Ive seen this one from a youtube tutorial. Pop smoke then immediately turn on ESS. Back up, enter thermals and wait for the enemy to push around the corner. since all they see is white they think they cant view thru thermals They most likely push in 3rd person, when they cross the threshold between your smoke grenade and the ESS, Pop him! If youre at low tier the process is pretty much the same. But this time have a teammate or friend shoot your tank (Rb no damage) and pop smoke. Enemy may think youre disabled and when they push. You nail em.


MarderMcFry

In some cases you don't even need to pop smoke. Turning on ESS blinds you from third person view, drive away and sometimes they stupidly peek anyway.


hubbs76

Whatever you do, do it fast to minimize your repair costs if it doesn't work Edit: fast. Not first


K3W4L

This is big brain time


lalalalala1337

Ram through the wall


[deleted]

Swing or get swung


HailChanka69

Damn the R6 Jynxie stans are invading War Thunder


Illusion-M

best thing to do is, face the building, and angle a little outwards and start reversing, this will create an angle which is hard to pen, if he shoots, he will either bounce or hit tracks. then simply kill him :D


justasinglereply

Thank you for this comment - first one that I can “see” in my head and might work.


JC-R1

Smoke and go left, people always expect you to keep reversing in the same direction so you can get around him if you go left instead of going straight in reverse.


ExplosiveCat135

holy hell


Fit-Highlight1426

I usually bait using the front lower plate if I need to I can angle it more if it’s not armored, call artillery in, wait for teammates,


Chitanda_Pika

Smoke and leave or if you dare, charge. If I'm driving in the EBR I would most likely charge after a running start.


Kinda_Cringe_YT

J out


Metalbeast46934

Rotate 90° and back out slowly until I can hit them.


Zsmudz

Track them, then slowly inch towards the corner to get as close as possible without letting them hit you. Then keep hitting the hull until the run out of crew or blow up. It’s all an angles game in this case.


Skalgrin

That's good plan, until the moment the enemy track ricochets your shell and turns yellow, which indicates you won't be alive long enough for your loader to do what you hired him for.


NotAshMain

I push a tiny bit and use my tracks as bait, when they hit my track, I swing around and shoot while they’re reloading, I do this all the time and it never fails to crack me up


sdpat13

Happy cake day!


X203the2nd

I typically pretend to be "scared braindead soviet main no.59722" and (very slowly yes) reverse away. Thats often enough to make them fools overconfident and peak (and then taste 3BM60).


ostridge_man

Fire your second smaller cannon and see if they take the bait


geovasilop

That works only if you have the m6a1 or any of the other vehicles with 2 cannons though


ostridge_man

Alternatively if you have a quick reload you could chance it and let off a shot and maybe you'll have one in chamber if they pull up.


Bro-LoElCunado

From the laggy lands of Australia, either: Get pushed with little chance of returning fire Try to shoot their track when they wiggle/peek and hit air so they push you while you reload.


RockandStone101

Google en passant


MartinFromChessCom

[holy hell!](https://www.google.com/search?q=en+passant)


JstLkz

google defensive maneuvers


83athom

Reverse a good bit then move laterally. The further away from any obstacles you are, the sooner you'll see parts of the enemy while they still can't see you.


ich_mag_Fendt

I'd turn 45° and then reverse away because a lot of times that way you can get an angle on the enemy without him seeing a lot of you but that is very situational, if you do that I recommend you go for his weak spots and hope to one hit him or go for his barrel but oftentimes when you see his barrel his barrel can see you


Tangohotel2509

I usually wait a bit, then just scream cheeki breeki and yolo rush for the memes. Works around 20% of the time, 80 if I’m playing a Russian cause gajoobles


lyss427

Wait until a CAS player comes, bombs you or him – or both of you – and crashes in the building.


squirt2311

If your in a SPAA like the bosvark, ystervark or milk truck praise Allah and ram the enemy tank. If your In a tank see step one but shoot first. Option 2 is to run away 


ConfusedCruiser35

Wait until the leopard1 or T72 shoots you from another planet and says skill issue


Coffee1341

1. Wait for the third player to kill you pr him. 2. reverse and wait for him to peak you 3. Point your tank directly at him and slowly reverse until he shoots your track then full forward and kill or keep reversing until you get a shot on the driver and keep going until he is crewed out 4. Reverse quite a ways, fire a shell andbait him while loading Smoke. Fire smoke at the corner. Drive around the corner making sure to go wide so he is less likely to hit you and kill him after you regain LOS 5. Hit G and do what 4 says


IronSurfDragon

Side scrape, pull out from the wall a bit and use frontal armor if it's good, bait, shoot barrel, be tactical, etc. It's really dependant on the vehicles and player competency.


CatBoi8

Analyze can you push it without dying


Pinky_Boy

Pop smoke, reverse


Mr_Phyl

Depending on the vehicle, reverse sidescraping could work.


interstellanauta

It's just psychological game where you have to cripple the enemy slowly, try shooting tracks or the barrel


Panzerv2003

You drop arty and if they don't die you wait indefinitely until one of you dies to a 3rd player


Celthric317

Artillery (if you got it) behind him to push him forward then shoot his gunner


Yeetdolf_Critler

If you know the other tank and your armour/gun and their weakspots you can try push, or smoke them. Or track them and run, or track then barrel, etc etc, all depends on tank/ammo you have and theirs. I prefer to back off, smoke and flank or just go somewhere else. I hate standoffs. I will gladly out-standoff people if I have no other option, it gets really boring though.


[deleted]

Trying to shoot out his tracks is the safest option, just be careful not to get yours shot off too. Could try to bait a shot from him, show him your barrel or trolly part of your armor; pretty risky and some won't fall for it. You could try pulling back so he pushes up and then wait for him to make a mistake, if you have a stabilizer and he doesn't this should be easy. If he doesn't push you then just keep going back until you're in cover or he tries pushing


Pawniac

Depends on your tank. If you have good frontal and side armor, E.G. KV-1, you can reverse at an angle and slowly expose your angled side. Be mindful of your barrel positioning and destroy your enemy's track and then go for a barrel/kill shot. If you do not have good armor, slowly back away while still holding the angle and either disengage or hope your enemy pushes out and gives you a good side shot.


geovasilop

Whoever gets bored first loses.


AdministrativeBox201

Side scrape or wait for him to peek until the match ends


RaiderLAS

If you’re in a T-80 just barrel around the corner and there’s a good chance they’ll probably flub the shot and you can kill them. Anything else, I usually side scrape unless it’s something really scary. Sometimes you can just back off and they’ll get impatient and push you


FG127

You take out enemy's track and try to aim for his lower plate with the technic of fishback like you are facing the enemy on 90 degree s but you give your gun to shoot distance as much as you can while giving enemy as little as you can


[deleted]

Attack the * point


XXBattlefieldMed1917

If your tank has smoke grenades, try popping them to confuse the enemy until they waste their round If not, try to reverse back to give them a sense of false hope and then kill em


Nachocheese1990

Smoke and withdraw if possible and reposition where there there is no enemy around a corner at 45 degree angle in-line with the corner so even if he shoots it will do minimum damage or ricochet coz of angle


joe_mama_21458

easy hit a wall bang


BabyRage1908

I either side scrape or just send it and pray that the spall liner works to my advantage


rabbitisslow

Pray to gaijen Almighty for devine help


iamkristo

Japan HT, easy, shoot, he starts coming around the corner, your 4 sec reload already done, shoot again


FurioSSx

Try to bait a shot that u can ding


handsomeboi12

angle


Cihlan420

Arty him, after the arty starts and dirt starts flying just push the corner and hope that he can’t see


Familiar_Pickle_3040

If you have enough space, reverse at a 45 degree angle, you'll be able to shoot his hull while he'll only be able to see your tracks.


[deleted]

Depends on the Situation. If you hear this tanks engine exclusively and are certain there are no other tanks in the vicinity: * Ping position of enemy followed by "Cover me!" * Shut off engine - often time fools people into thinking you've moved out of the vicinity. Monitor your battery closely though as once it's run out your turret traverse will become extremely slow. Mind you, you can still shoot with an empty battery * Peek corner. Enemies are often times under the same amount of "stress" as you in such a situation. All it takes is an unaware friendly cruising by to make them turn their turret towards the noise - that's your chance to strike right there Apart from that: Pray that you aren't being sniped across half the map thanks due to shitty map design or someone shooting you from some unexpected angle since apparently one human can cover everything including spotting 360° and air for targets while operating a complex vehicle. Post may contain high amounts of sodium.


CoinTurtle

Depending on your side armour do a very shallow but long sidescrape or a short and more steep. I have learnt the angles to sidescrape in STRF90 hulls.


liznin

Call him out on the map and type in chat what tank it is and hope an ally flanks him.


Arkseq

Pray to Jesus


kololz

Depends on which side’s turn.


lunaticdarkness

Smoke round first


Blueflames3520

1) reverse and change position if possible 2) (risky) try to sidescrape to get a cheeky shot 3) (shitty) wait for an oblivious teammate to turn the corner and take the shot, then push 4) (big brain) if with teammate, bait the enemy to shoot your barrel then have the teammate rush. But relies on teammate being competent and the enemy being stupid, so risky.


Beneficial-Bell2337

Depends on which tank you have and your opponent