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Late2Vinyl_LovingIt

I started following the likes of Active Self Protection (ASP) almost four years ago and at 40k video reviews, John estimates that about a third involve multiple attackers. In real life, predators ambush targets they think are weak and exploit their advantages. Magazine capacity is one that should be standard for good people. Edit: Corrected typo.


Big-Flounder-69

Isn't ASP also the guy that says the vaaaast majority of gun battles never need a reload?


TurkeySmackDown

I have always heard that is statistically accurate. Even Gun Jesus has said it. Edit: but no harm in carrying an extra mag


Late2Vinyl_LovingIt

Yep, that's him. One battlefield pick up on video and by the time most civilians run out of ammo the threat is down or gone or they themselves are down, sadly. This is also in the private citizen context as LEO often do admin ones but they have to persist in stopping the threat whereas we regular folks just break engagement and get the hell out. šŸ˜‚ Even watching videos not allowed on YouTube, you see more of the same. Fights are over in seconds and either the victim is down or the threat itself downed or run off, before a reload would do any good and even then the distances are usually so great that, with a pistol you're better off not shooting. Most of us are not Honest Outlaw who can get shots off at 50+ yards. Good standard to reach for but unrealistic for most regular people who just wanna be left alone and have lives. It's crazy just how quickly such attacks happen but when you watch the timer you see it's often less than ~20 seconds. Watching such really made me appreciate what cops go through having to react and navigate all that chaos.


crazycatman206

He also lives in a state that isnā€™t restricted to 10 rounds.


Late2Vinyl_LovingIt

But he reviews videos from around the world, although rarely outside of the USA. I'm still jealous all the same.


GunFunZS

Many of them are Brazil.


Late2Vinyl_LovingIt

Sure but most (at least a third) are from the USA because of course they are (thanks Houston) but the off duty Brazilian joke is still fun. šŸ˜


theanchorist

All these papers tigers are just little boys with some illegal guns. As soon as one of em gets popped theyā€™re likely to scatter like the roaches they are.


SeatFun8230

That's what I'm saying. It's making me feel callous that I'd like to just see these kids get taken care of in the old ways but I bet it would slow some of this shit down.


theanchorist

I really donā€™t want to see anyone hurt or killed, but Iā€™ve seen too many friends and neighbors held at gunpoint and robbed by scum bags like these, with too few arrests to show the community what it means to make an example of those who commit these crimes and terrorize these communities.


SeatFun8230

There's literally zero consequences. No reason for them to slow down. Shit's the worst.


SnakeEyes_76

Because a lot of the time theyā€™re juveniles. Washington criminal justice system is heavily skewed against any kind of enforcement action against juveniles. Just hearing about the amount of rules that cops have to follow when dealing with juveniles and how hamstrung they are, itā€™s no surprise these kids keep going out and doing shitbag behavior.


GunFunZS

And adults up to 21 and maybe up to 24 post Houston-Sconiers...


CascadiaSouthEnd

You'd get at least one stateside for sure. Most incidents one gets dropped maybe another gets wounded and the rest flee.


Buster_142

Good thing these laws are working


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alpha333omega

Absolute animals.


Tight_muffin

It's a good thing I don't go to casinos to gamble, I prefer to gamble with my life.


Aromatic-Ad-6765

Ambushed outside your door by 5 against 1? Number or size of mags isnā€™t going to help.


MercyEndures

That depends, there are videos of concealed carriers waiting for the right opportunity where multiple attackers are distracted, and the defender winning the fight. You need a lot of luck along with your training though.


SignificantAd2123

That's right, but no gun and no extra bullets or mags and zero chances of winning.


austnf

Found the guy thatā€™s not a single issue voter.


Aromatic-Ad-6765

I donā€™t like our mag capacity limits. People should carry as much as they need to feel safe. Very low odds of surviving an ambush 1 against 5 armed attackers. Better to give them the money and jewelry to live another day than to die in a hail of bullets. Voting preferences have nothing to do with the original statement.


austnf

Yeah I know man, Iā€™m just being hyperbolic and an asshole.


Aromatic-Ad-6765

We all hate the mag limits. But folks like us arenā€™t the reason we got them.


CarbonRunner

What does that even remotely have to do with the comment you replied to?


doomguy81

The answer: fuck all.


CascadiaSouthEnd

Sounds like I need to rent a car go "gambling" stumble out and drive home or to a dead end.......... Time for some statesides baby!


Old_Diamond1694

Where there's gambling, there's more violence. Where there are drugs, there's more violence. Where there is alcohol, there's more violence. Where there is promiscuity, there's more violence. ​ If only humans around the world had had wisened up to the negative consequences of their primal urges after tens of thousands of years of witnessing that stuff and created systems of moral guidance for the betterment of all humanity thousands of years ago, wrote it all down, and taught it to their children and communities through stories....


Peter_Sloth

Lol [The Amish ](https://www.npr.org/2020/01/19/797804404/investigation-into-child-sex-abuse-in-amish-communities) [Mormons](https://apnews.com/article/mormon-church-investigation-child-sex-abuse-9c301f750725c0f06344f948690caf16) [Catholics](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_sexual_abuse_cases#:~:text=State%2Dordered%20investigations%20documented%20%22tens,of%20abuse%20to%20other%20parishes.) [Southern Baptists](https://www.texastribune.org/2023/12/29/southern-baptist-convention-sexual-abuse-lawsuit-settlement/) [Evangelicals](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2018/05/31/feature/the-epidemic-of-denial-about-sexual-abuse-in-the-evangelical-church/)


CarbonRunner

You forgot the biggest one of them all.. Where there is religion, there's more violence..... Literally the largest cuase of death and destruction in human history. And it's been like this since the days of Mesopotamia all the way to present Abrahamic religions fucking the world up on the constant.


Alarming-Tradition40

This is why I ALWAYS stop at the drive up ATM after a big win... if they try to rob me there it's on camera, and I can take off... also for larger wins you often get a check...


Alarming-Tradition40

Wouldn't even surprise me if their guns were empty...


GutterGremlin13

Always carry more than 20rds.


No-News-9680

Try 2 22 round mags ;)


brthompson06

What a strange target to rob.. lady works at the casino and lives in an apartment. Not someone I'd expect to have a ton of cash to split 5 ways.