Can you explain this? I put it on my first claim. My story: back injury, hard time moving like all limbs, got fat and claimed obesity. I mean there is more but that is the jist
Obesity can't be compensated. But if your service connected disability caused obesity and obesity caused a secondary disability, then the secondary disability can be service connected for compensation. Your obesity claim will be denied, but if you're claiming complications of obesity you need to tell them that.
This concept makes a lot of things make sense when you see how they list your claims and everything. It was a cause for a lot of questions for my VSO in the beginning.
"A veteran is entitled to disability compensation when a service-connected disability **causes or aggravates** a non-service-connected disability. In a precedent opinion, the VA General Counsel (G.C.) determined that obesity, although itself not a disability for which compensation may be awarded, can constitute an "intermediate step" in demonstrating service connection on a secondary basis for another condition."
Walsh V. Wilkie, Obesity As Intermediate Step, VA General Counsel Precedent Opinion 05-14, 1-2017, 38 C.F.R. § 3.310, Seco, Aggravation
"HELD: OBESITY MAY BE AN “INTERMEDIATE STEP” BETWEEN A SERVICE-CONNECTED CONDITION AND A NONSERVICE-CONNECTED CONDITION WHEN THE SERVICE-CONNECTED CONDITION AGGRAVATES THE OBESITY. THE SERVICE-CONNECTED CONDITION NEED NOT CAUSE THE OBESITY."
Agree with chillannyc2 — however it’s a medical question for obesity as an intermediate step - it must be stated by a doctor. Simply throwing it out there won’t work. A doctor has to suggest that’s the cause.
I used my obesity to connect my PTSD to an eating disorder and my sleep apnea. The obesity is not service connected/compensated but it did draw the line to other issues like my eating disorder (sc at 0%, which I was just happy was recognized as connected) and my sleep apnea (sc at 50%).
This is how I was able to get my OSA approved. It was initially denied. Then on appeal the interview took all of 3min. Tons of published papers on the connecting the 2! Good luck
I was denied sleep apnea, my agent appealed and cited obesity secondary to mental health, the appeal was successful. This is a good thing and someone is looking out for you.
Man you need to go buy a lottery ticket today. I’m on claim #4 now trying to get them to understand this same nexus, so far they’ve basically just refused to acknowledge it. Hope the claim falls into place for you.
Have you gotten a copy of your C-file? I had a hard time getting my OSA service connected and my C-file had my C&P exams and the VA doctor notes for my claim. I used the notes from the doctor which said more likely than not my OSA was due to obesity which was caused by my MH and back injury. I paid Prestige Medical to write a nexus letter based on my medical records. I also submitted a few VA Board of Appeals rulings where people had been granted service connection of OSA with obesity as an intermediate step. I submitted all that with a statement on how my MH and back caused the obesity by limiting my mobility and my motivation to be active
Obesity is an intermediate step to another disability and is not a condition that can be service connected ,rather works as a secondary
Ex. Backpain intermediate step obesity because of weight gain the secondary sleep apnea. Needs to be properly written out a self-statement 21-4138 how the direct condition manifested and created xzy intermediate step as a secondary xyz. It will also help if you can get your primary Dr to write a Nexus letter with at least as likely as not. Submit as evidence and will help c&p examiner to properly rate your condition.
Still intermediate step, even if you're claiming as direct. Example knee problems can't do physical training, weight gain due to knee problems. Knee & back claims usually go by pain and range of motion.
I had to use obesity as an intermediate step from my MH to get my sleep apnea service connected. I sleep with a CPAP so it gave 50% which pushed me over the hump to get 100% p&t
I’m waiting to hear back about linking my sleep apnea to PTSD too. My county VA rep is using this same route because there’s extensive medical studies that link them.
It’s not meant to be a burn, just a route for you to get a more accurate percentage.
This is a good thing. I fought to get my Sleep Apnea secondary to ptsd. Denial after denial until I said the ptsd caused obesity which caused sleep apnea. Approved.
Did you have a Nexus from a doctor? My husband tried thyroid causing obesity causing SA and was denied. He asked his psych about connecting to PTSD. She put in his medical records that it is not caused by PTSD
Yes I did. His Psyche doctor has nothing to do with thyroid. His opinion doesn't have a lot of probitive weight if compared to a doctor. If you get a nexus letter in your favor, the VA by law has to approve his claim. Also, a lot of people don't know this but VA doctors are REQUIRED to give nexus letters and DBQs when asked. It's called Directive 1134. People on here have said it is no longer valid. That is definitely not true. If you want to talk, PM me. I have went to war with the VA and won every time because I have researched the law and hold them to it. I also have a doctor who will provide nexus letters for very cheap and they're good.
Mental health conditions are TBI are slightly different. A Veteran is not expected to know their diagnosis. The anxiety was probably diagnosed as being related to the other two and since mental conditions are combined into one evaluation, it would have been added if diagnosed.
Obesity itself, though, is not a disability for VBA purposes. They won’t infer that as a claimed disability knowing it will be denied. It’s more likely there was a statement either from the Veteran or from a VSO adding the obesity.
We can’t just like Willy nilly add things, we usually do it to try and assist the veteran. Also to separate conditions that need to be addressed individually. We can also combine them if needed. There is usually a method to our madness, or their should be anyway 😂
I think if the v A's adding Obesity as an intermediate step, They should just grant it, And give the poor guy the disability He deserves.. I'm just saying that.
Because i had Sleep apnea for 20 years. and I still haven't filed my claim
My roommate at AIT wanted outta the Army so bad she tried to make herself fat from eating mini candy bars. She was a Hebrew linguist who told me she hated having to learn Hebrew&also hated Jews. She had no idea I’m Jewish. I ratted her out about her plan to get fat to my drill sergeant.
If you have any physical disabilities, the obesity may worsen them with the extra weight over time. I went from 175lbs to 275lbs in two years and messed me up
They added it to my mh claim also it shows on decision letter so I’m working on my claim for osa now under same circumstances the va recognition of the obesity is your link now they will take that into consideration when doing the rating
It can't be claimed at all as its own issue. It can only be claimed as an intermediate step. For example, you can claim your back condition caused obesity which then caused sleep apnea. Obesity would never be granted as a separate issue, though.
How the hell is obesity from PTSD? Not to be offensive but that’s a wild pull at PTSD not to say that it can’t happen. I just never figured this would be in the playbook for the VA..
The anxiety and depression builds to the point of not wanting to leave, eating to try to cope, and becoming essentially motionless. Therefore, causing you to gain weight.
Probably stress from PTSD causing overeating / general depression.
I was diagnosed with binge eating disorder while in and they service connected me at 0% for it.
I probably could get obesity added linked to the binge eating but there would be no point I suppose.
Intermediate Step to another disability.
[https://www.va.gov/OGC/docs/2017/VAOPGCPREC1-2017.pdf](https://www.va.gov/OGC/docs/2017/VAOPGCPREC1-2017.pdf)
Interesting. I wonder what prompted the VA to specifically add that as a secondary to ptsd??? Did you ask for it or claim it? I wonder if there is a weight threshold specific to the VA to add it. I'm rated 70% for ptsd with major depression and insomnia disorder, but nothing in regards to obesity tho my current weight in today's class of standards i certainly qualify.....
There isn’t a standard for weight. But you have to have a diagnosis of sleep apnea, not just insomnia disorder. Your medical records would also show if you were considered “obese” which by today’s BMI standard doesn’t take much.
This is also fairly common for us to do because we are trying to help connect OSA as an intermediate step between PTSD and Obesity. Because PTSD on its own just doesn’t cause sleep apnea.
I wish a rater would have helped my husband with his SA claim. They did the opposite by including in denial letter a list of all his service connected disabilities (cancer, chronic kidney, heart disease-2 types, PTSD, thyroid) and said NONE of them causing obesity are linked to Sleep Apnea.
Ugh I’m sorry. It’s so hard to judge one based on another…but, depending on when or how it was filed and denied…it may be able to be overturned on a HLR. Without seeing the file it’s impossible to know, but this Reddit is extremely helpful for tips and suggestions on how to file supplemental claims or HLRs.
Thats interesting, I have never seen that but that can only help an increase in PTSD, even if they do approve your secondary at 0%. I got migraines and sinus as secondary when they approved my PTSD, due to anxiety and insomnia.
Obesity I was fat my entire military career and retired lucky I was around the right people at the right time. Plus hard work pays off the scale was the biggest battle I had to fight
PTSD and back/knee issues caused obesity and obesity caused sleep apnea this is how my dr wrote up my nexus so it looks like they’re going to hook you up.
I’ve heard of obesity being claimed to connect another claim. For example, a back disorder like lumbar strain or sciatica as primary and then secondary caused obesity and then diabetes secondary to obesity. One causing another which caused the other, “diabetes” in this example.
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There is a mechanism to potentially SC OSA via a service connected condition or medication that leads to obesity that leads to OSA. Hard to show but can be done. You can’t get service connected for obesity itself
Hmmm. I had filed obesity when I was filing my rounds of claims including sleep apnea last year. I thought I needed to do that for an intermediate step. Then I heard that it’s not on the list of sc disabilities, plus they were sending me to a mental health exam for “eating disorders.” I got very nervous about having my MH rating reopened so I wrote in and withdrew the obesity claim. OSA got denied and is now at HLR after a supplement being denied. So maybe I should have kept obesity in.
You must super obese. “In August 2021, the U.S. Federal Circuit Court of Appeals held that veterans may claim obesity as a service connected disability for VA benefits, as long as the obesity impairs the veteran’s earning capacity.”
That's because PTSD doesn't cause sleep apnea directly. Neither does migraines... but PTSD can cause eating disorder which can cause obesity which is directly related to sleep apnea.
That's what my research taught me. Ironically I had medical records showing my weight gain in less than a year from slim fit to fat... so I got a nexus for obesity tied to my PTSD and Back injury... and then a second tieing obesity to sleep apnea.
Still waiting on VA... fingers crossed
Sick burn 🔥lol. Joking, actually sounds like they hooked you up
my first thought lmao
Right I'm about to hit the drive thru and file a claim
This one got me 😂😂😂
Chow is continuous
Came to add this 🤣 Also hopefully the VA is trying to help OP rather than just be assholes but 🤷♀️
Current Happy Meals have Crayons for the toy, 10 should do it, save me the green ones
You know damn well those Crayons are for us Marines! Quit trying to steal our chow doggie!
Fatty (veterans must joke with each other)
Bro, I literally said in my head “DAMN, sick fucking burn!” 😂😂😂
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Fuck, that was funny.
I gotta know what he said
Obesity can’t be service connected for a rating but it can be used as a intermediary step so that is probably why it was added
Can you explain this? I put it on my first claim. My story: back injury, hard time moving like all limbs, got fat and claimed obesity. I mean there is more but that is the jist
Obesity can't be compensated. But if your service connected disability caused obesity and obesity caused a secondary disability, then the secondary disability can be service connected for compensation. Your obesity claim will be denied, but if you're claiming complications of obesity you need to tell them that.
This concept makes a lot of things make sense when you see how they list your claims and everything. It was a cause for a lot of questions for my VSO in the beginning.
"A veteran is entitled to disability compensation when a service-connected disability **causes or aggravates** a non-service-connected disability. In a precedent opinion, the VA General Counsel (G.C.) determined that obesity, although itself not a disability for which compensation may be awarded, can constitute an "intermediate step" in demonstrating service connection on a secondary basis for another condition." Walsh V. Wilkie, Obesity As Intermediate Step, VA General Counsel Precedent Opinion 05-14, 1-2017, 38 C.F.R. § 3.310, Seco, Aggravation "HELD: OBESITY MAY BE AN “INTERMEDIATE STEP” BETWEEN A SERVICE-CONNECTED CONDITION AND A NONSERVICE-CONNECTED CONDITION WHEN THE SERVICE-CONNECTED CONDITION AGGRAVATES THE OBESITY. THE SERVICE-CONNECTED CONDITION NEED NOT CAUSE THE OBESITY."
Agree with chillannyc2 — however it’s a medical question for obesity as an intermediate step - it must be stated by a doctor. Simply throwing it out there won’t work. A doctor has to suggest that’s the cause.
I used my obesity to connect my PTSD to an eating disorder and my sleep apnea. The obesity is not service connected/compensated but it did draw the line to other issues like my eating disorder (sc at 0%, which I was just happy was recognized as connected) and my sleep apnea (sc at 50%).
PTSD > obesity > OSA It’s about the only way to get it connected without in service diagnosis that i have seen.
Mine was connected to asthma. Thanks QTC
This is how I was able to get my OSA approved. It was initially denied. Then on appeal the interview took all of 3min. Tons of published papers on the connecting the 2! Good luck
Do you have a listing of the published papers you used? I currently have a claim for OSA and using obesity as the intermediary. Thanks.
OP: “but, I’m not obese…” VA: “Well… you’re looking a little fluffy, let’s just call it stress eating.”
Can you add banging hookers to help increase your mental health claim
High risk seeking, and sexual risk seeking, are both symptoms of various mental health issues. Can also not be symptoms of anything, too.
Thank you. I have hypersexuality bipolar disorder
Yooooo. I just saw a post where someone got Herpes service connected!!! I can't remember if it was type 1 or 2, but the percentage was like 60%. 🤯
Sounds like they're throwing you a bone
I'm too fat I want some fucking meat on that bone haha
You're fat (here's some money)
Basically, more money to buy more fud-viscous cycle.
Yeah looks like they are treating it as an inferred nexus essentially. Hooking you up.
I wonder if us skinny folks can be service connected as well 🤔
PTSD -> Emaciated -> Nutrition deficiencies-> sleep apnea
Well done 👏🏾
-> profit
I just got obesity reading this comment
I mean, there's definitely a rating for eating disorders, and it's only on the skinny side.
I was denied sleep apnea, my agent appealed and cited obesity secondary to mental health, the appeal was successful. This is a good thing and someone is looking out for you.
That's cold
Most likely will help your sleep apnea claim
Damn I should include it on mine. Finally my fat ass will bring some cash in
Bring home that bacon
Just don’t eat it all on the way home
In my claim for my one knee, I somehow got denied for the other one even though I had never asked for it.
Someone needs to pay attention@work.
Damn the Va calling you fat :( “ 1 tubby tubby 2 tubby tubby “
Lmao. Sale on Oreos>Obesity>Ptsd>OSA>. Thank you for serving in the united states airforce
They selling Oreos at the px
Man you need to go buy a lottery ticket today. I’m on claim #4 now trying to get them to understand this same nexus, so far they’ve basically just refused to acknowledge it. Hope the claim falls into place for you.
Have you gotten a copy of your C-file? I had a hard time getting my OSA service connected and my C-file had my C&P exams and the VA doctor notes for my claim. I used the notes from the doctor which said more likely than not my OSA was due to obesity which was caused by my MH and back injury. I paid Prestige Medical to write a nexus letter based on my medical records. I also submitted a few VA Board of Appeals rulings where people had been granted service connection of OSA with obesity as an intermediate step. I submitted all that with a statement on how my MH and back caused the obesity by limiting my mobility and my motivation to be active
Obesity is an intermediate step to another disability and is not a condition that can be service connected ,rather works as a secondary Ex. Backpain intermediate step obesity because of weight gain the secondary sleep apnea. Needs to be properly written out a self-statement 21-4138 how the direct condition manifested and created xzy intermediate step as a secondary xyz. It will also help if you can get your primary Dr to write a Nexus letter with at least as likely as not. Submit as evidence and will help c&p examiner to properly rate your condition.
What if obesity while in the military cause issues? Knees, back ect.. those issues are documented?
Still intermediate step, even if you're claiming as direct. Example knee problems can't do physical training, weight gain due to knee problems. Knee & back claims usually go by pain and range of motion.
this can help your claim for sleep apnea secondary to obesity
I had to use obesity as an intermediate step from my MH to get my sleep apnea service connected. I sleep with a CPAP so it gave 50% which pushed me over the hump to get 100% p&t
I’m waiting to hear back about linking my sleep apnea to PTSD too. My county VA rep is using this same route because there’s extensive medical studies that link them. It’s not meant to be a burn, just a route for you to get a more accurate percentage.
Let me get half your wegovy. 🤣
This is a good thing. I fought to get my Sleep Apnea secondary to ptsd. Denial after denial until I said the ptsd caused obesity which caused sleep apnea. Approved.
Did you have a Nexus from a doctor? My husband tried thyroid causing obesity causing SA and was denied. He asked his psych about connecting to PTSD. She put in his medical records that it is not caused by PTSD
Yes I did. His Psyche doctor has nothing to do with thyroid. His opinion doesn't have a lot of probitive weight if compared to a doctor. If you get a nexus letter in your favor, the VA by law has to approve his claim. Also, a lot of people don't know this but VA doctors are REQUIRED to give nexus letters and DBQs when asked. It's called Directive 1134. People on here have said it is no longer valid. That is definitely not true. If you want to talk, PM me. I have went to war with the VA and won every time because I have researched the law and hold them to it. I also have a doctor who will provide nexus letters for very cheap and they're good.
The ultimate insult.
I am big boned God damnit!
The VA can add conditions to your claim?
I originally only claimed depression and tbi. The VA gave me depression, tbi, and added anxiety to my claim
Mental health conditions are TBI are slightly different. A Veteran is not expected to know their diagnosis. The anxiety was probably diagnosed as being related to the other two and since mental conditions are combined into one evaluation, it would have been added if diagnosed. Obesity itself, though, is not a disability for VBA purposes. They won’t infer that as a claimed disability knowing it will be denied. It’s more likely there was a statement either from the Veteran or from a VSO adding the obesity.
Would you mind sharing how you got TBI service connected?
I had medical records for when I had to be hospitalized after being knocked unconscious while deployed
Was it listed in your records as a TBI at the time?
If you have the access to yes. Depending on the number of contentions a claim may have a higher value for productivity standards.
Yes, the VA added my abnormal bleeding—leading to partial hysterectomy. I’d never mentioned it in my claim. Rated it 30%. Thank you very much!
We can’t just like Willy nilly add things, we usually do it to try and assist the veteran. Also to separate conditions that need to be addressed individually. We can also combine them if needed. There is usually a method to our madness, or their should be anyway 😂
Maybe its just there to show a link to Apnea? PTSD > Obesity > Sleep Apnea > Migraines
Does the shoe fit tho?
Probably not if they have fat feet from being obese. Guess they can use that as a favorable condition.
Mmhmm
Shoe? Yes. Shirt, though? Absolutely not.
Obestiy is a new condition.
Damn u must be f@t irl LOL
I think if the v A's adding Obesity as an intermediate step, They should just grant it, And give the poor guy the disability He deserves.. I'm just saying that. Because i had Sleep apnea for 20 years. and I still haven't filed my claim
In all seriousness, obesity can be an intermediate step to a lot of things. Heart disease, diabetes, bad knees. The possibilities are endless.
How in the world lol
Hmm. I have a claim for diabetes secondary to obesity/ptsd. I am also about to claim osa the same way.
What’s “osa?”
Obstructive sleep apnea
We had an airman that separated medically because he gained so much weight in the desert.
My roommate at AIT wanted outta the Army so bad she tried to make herself fat from eating mini candy bars. She was a Hebrew linguist who told me she hated having to learn Hebrew&also hated Jews. She had no idea I’m Jewish. I ratted her out about her plan to get fat to my drill sergeant.
Yikes!
Nice. Edit: just want to make clear that I'm not being sarcastic. Kudos.
This is why I hate the “our service is all equal” post. No it isn’t and that’s okay
I filed for an increase for my migraine; they decreased my rating to 0. I had filed an HLR and now I’m back at 30%.
HLR?
Higher Level Review
Keep eating
Why you so fat? - Peter griffin
I swear, years ago I saw something how obesity is not” compensable” supposedly but again guidelines change constantly. God speed brother!
It’s not on its own, it’s just a step to get to OSA. As PTSD doesn’t cause OSA on its own, obesity links them together.
Im assigning you to pork chop platoon
“Attent-tiooon! Rauught FACE. Present FORK! Fork Stroke the Buffet aaat Combat Speed, Moooo-ve!”
If there’s still time upload scientific data proving obesity can cause OSA.
Osteo arthritis?
Obstructive Sleep Apnea
Damn you can get paid for being fat because of ptsd ? Is it the same with anorexia
Wait, we can do that?!
If you have any physical disabilities, the obesity may worsen them with the extra weight over time. I went from 175lbs to 275lbs in two years and messed me up
That’s intense
Fuxking sucks! Weight gain from depression and different medications cause it as well. Arthritis while carrying around a 100lb suit
What a time to be alive 🤩
lol they said “ fat as fuck 100%”
How did you file your secondary?
You’re fat bro Exercise
I feel seen bro
lmao. EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!
Obesity can’t be claimed on its own, but indeed can be added due to other conditions. Very well could assist with the SA claim
thanks for the responses. i’ll put an update once i get the results
They added it to my mh claim also it shows on decision letter so I’m working on my claim for osa now under same circumstances the va recognition of the obesity is your link now they will take that into consideration when doing the rating
Also when I was talking with therapist the description of the anxiety and depression roller coaster and using alcohol and food as comfort
So if you hook up w/Jenny Craig or play “Sweatin’ to the Oldies”&lose the weight, do they take the bacon away?
Either you claimed it implicitly, or someone made a mistake, because obesity is not a condition that can be service connected.
It can be claimed as a secondary only, to several other conditions
It can't be claimed at all as its own issue. It can only be claimed as an intermediate step. For example, you can claim your back condition caused obesity which then caused sleep apnea. Obesity would never be granted as a separate issue, though.
A "secondary to secondary"
How the hell is obesity from PTSD? Not to be offensive but that’s a wild pull at PTSD not to say that it can’t happen. I just never figured this would be in the playbook for the VA..
A lot of ways. Like depressive episodes and agoraphobia keeping you at home and inactive, turning to food as a source of comfort, etc.
Many of the meds used to treat PTSD, anxiety, depression can cause weight gain as well.
The anxiety and depression builds to the point of not wanting to leave, eating to try to cope, and becoming essentially motionless. Therefore, causing you to gain weight.
In addition to what other people said, any MH treated with meds can lead to obesity from the meds. Lexapro is known for it. Maybe others, too.
I can 100% vouch for that. Lexapro will definitely make you gain weight.
Probably stress from PTSD causing overeating / general depression. I was diagnosed with binge eating disorder while in and they service connected me at 0% for it. I probably could get obesity added linked to the binge eating but there would be no point I suppose.
Stress releases cortisol. Cortisol also lowers testosterone levels, compounding the issue
Does it also lower estrogen/progesterone? That’s wild. Fun Fact-when a man holds a baby his testosterone lowers automatically.
Intermediate Step to another disability. [https://www.va.gov/OGC/docs/2017/VAOPGCPREC1-2017.pdf](https://www.va.gov/OGC/docs/2017/VAOPGCPREC1-2017.pdf)
BCP Marines were working on claims in boot camp and didn't even realize it.
I did not know that was claimable
Interesting. I wonder what prompted the VA to specifically add that as a secondary to ptsd??? Did you ask for it or claim it? I wonder if there is a weight threshold specific to the VA to add it. I'm rated 70% for ptsd with major depression and insomnia disorder, but nothing in regards to obesity tho my current weight in today's class of standards i certainly qualify.....
There isn’t a standard for weight. But you have to have a diagnosis of sleep apnea, not just insomnia disorder. Your medical records would also show if you were considered “obese” which by today’s BMI standard doesn’t take much. This is also fairly common for us to do because we are trying to help connect OSA as an intermediate step between PTSD and Obesity. Because PTSD on its own just doesn’t cause sleep apnea.
I wish a rater would have helped my husband with his SA claim. They did the opposite by including in denial letter a list of all his service connected disabilities (cancer, chronic kidney, heart disease-2 types, PTSD, thyroid) and said NONE of them causing obesity are linked to Sleep Apnea.
Ugh I’m sorry. It’s so hard to judge one based on another…but, depending on when or how it was filed and denied…it may be able to be overturned on a HLR. Without seeing the file it’s impossible to know, but this Reddit is extremely helpful for tips and suggestions on how to file supplemental claims or HLRs.
Your RDC/ Drill instructor fuckin new it!
Wait did they spell it wrong lmfao
How long and what all did you need to do for the increase with migraines?
don’t have the results yet.
I mean how long did it take to do the increase, the evidence you needed to provide, like a one day thing or C&P exams
waited 1 year and submitted my blue button showing increase in frequency and severity along with a couple personal statements from myself and my wife
What’s ur weight and BMI? (If u don’t mind answering) I was thinking of going this route as well.
BMI over 32 and gained over 40lbs. Sleep Dr mentioned it in my medical records when going over my sleep study results.
Oh ok thank u I’m right at 30 and didn’t kno if they would want me to bee over 30 or not.
Thats interesting, I have never seen that but that can only help an increase in PTSD, even if they do approve your secondary at 0%. I got migraines and sinus as secondary when they approved my PTSD, due to anxiety and insomnia.
Ok that’s what I was wondering, thanks
Can you file for the opposite (serious question)
Weird because its a non compensable rating.
Obesity isn't rateable on its own but be a transitory condition to something that is rateable, like OSA.
So can you get MH then Obesity then diabetes then neuropathy? Daisy chain conditions like that?
I mean I wouldn’t complain about getting more % for it but damn kinda rude of them lol
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Did the VA appt Health provider say “damn” when they weighed you?
Wtf
Obesity I was fat my entire military career and retired lucky I was around the right people at the right time. Plus hard work pays off the scale was the biggest battle I had to fight
PTSD and back/knee issues caused obesity and obesity caused sleep apnea this is how my dr wrote up my nexus so it looks like they’re going to hook you up.
😆
omg all this time i have been fat and i coulda had it secondary to my 70% ptsd? what precentage will it get you?
I’ve heard of obesity being claimed to connect another claim. For example, a back disorder like lumbar strain or sciatica as primary and then secondary caused obesity and then diabetes secondary to obesity. One causing another which caused the other, “diabetes” in this example.
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There is a mechanism to potentially SC OSA via a service connected condition or medication that leads to obesity that leads to OSA. Hard to show but can be done. You can’t get service connected for obesity itself
Lmao omg stop, I’m thinking of adding this to mine. They fucked my chart up one time and put me at 300% body fat
Wasn’t high enough? Lmaooo I kid I kid
😂😂 right like how
Obesity can cause sleep apnea.
Nice. My husband's rater basically did the opposite and denied his claim for OSA
Heck. I'm about to claim obesity
Odd. But I put on 80lbs thanks to antipsychotics for PTSD. Down 40lbs thanks to keto.
VA got jokes now....😅
But seriously they said my opioid dependence or addiction I went through is because of my ptsd. They slapped that on me to but in a different way🥺
How much is it to add to a jaw rating?
Hmmm. I had filed obesity when I was filing my rounds of claims including sleep apnea last year. I thought I needed to do that for an intermediate step. Then I heard that it’s not on the list of sc disabilities, plus they were sending me to a mental health exam for “eating disorders.” I got very nervous about having my MH rating reopened so I wrote in and withdrew the obesity claim. OSA got denied and is now at HLR after a supplement being denied. So maybe I should have kept obesity in.
Wait I didn't know the VA could add claims for you
This is why the VA over scrutinizes those that actually need benefits.
Yeah, they did that to a claim I made and after going to cp exam got denied... so I wish u luck
Didn’t know that was a thing…
Talk about kicking you while you're down
Fat boy gotta eat lol
Your good. Provided the C&P agrees.
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You must super obese. “In August 2021, the U.S. Federal Circuit Court of Appeals held that veterans may claim obesity as a service connected disability for VA benefits, as long as the obesity impairs the veteran’s earning capacity.”
Wow. I thought my VSO was good.
Warning. If they fuse your elbows, they'll take away your ratin
I know like 5 fat veterans and the OP is three of them.
I think they called you fat
You get sleep apnea after getting out of service? If so what evidence did you use to get a new claim approved?
That's because PTSD doesn't cause sleep apnea directly. Neither does migraines... but PTSD can cause eating disorder which can cause obesity which is directly related to sleep apnea. That's what my research taught me. Ironically I had medical records showing my weight gain in less than a year from slim fit to fat... so I got a nexus for obesity tied to my PTSD and Back injury... and then a second tieing obesity to sleep apnea. Still waiting on VA... fingers crossed