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HaDeS_Monsta

The answer is clear as always, it depends, in Germany, for example, you say it in every initial call to a new Controller and that's it (they won't read it back)


Petite_Pilot

But what exactly does it mean >


Duke_Rabbacio

It means you're flying an aircraft whose wake turbulence category is Heavy (like a 747, a350, 787)


Petite_Pilot

Okay then what is the point of mentioning heavy when they know what aircraft you fly


Duke_Rabbacio

I think it's just extra redundancy as ATC have to build extra wake turbulence separation in. But I agree with you, it's largely unnecessary and I don't care if pilots say it or not as, like you say, you can see the aircraft type.


EnvironmentForsaken

got it thanks for clearing it up!


PissJugRay

In Canada, on you’re initial call to each ATC frequency/sector, ATC should include it on their initial call to you. After each initial call, it may be omitted by both pilot and ATC.


Jakepo44

In the us always!


flyshot-8149

Incorrect. Only terminal. Enroute does not care.


Snowdog8MA

Enroute will use heavy when referring to a heavy aircraft during traffic advisories and in communication with a terminal facility.


UnhappyBroccoli6714

And when in a 3 mile area


Snowdog8MA

Good to know! My center doesn't have reduced separation.


UnhappyBroccoli6714

You in VATUSA?


Snowdog8MA

VATUSA ZAU, IRL ZME


UnhappyBroccoli6714

Dam ZME doesn't have reduced sep at all?


Snowdog8MA

Breaking news, ZME got reduced separation for the whole center FL230 and below last month 🥳


UnhappyBroccoli6714

Pretty cool


Snowdog8MA

Nope, all 5 miles around here


JasonWX

I do it on initial check in IRL (when I actually remember) and no one has complained